Nephs exactly. true and funny story Nephs. This guy, I and group of others were playig soccer near mcknight where this incident happen. After few minutes he would tire and sit. So other guys were poking fun of him of doing too much of left hand work. ninka naag la'aan ayaa haysay. So the tought that came to me was' waar wuxu ma naag buu waayey'. Cara, That was assumption. It may or may not be true assumption. At this point no body knows what is up. Basically all every knows is girl being stripped in hall way.

Chub, Okay so you are saying when we didnt' make a move on you girls you settle for bad ones. Okay makes sense. Kool Kat, I don't chew qaad, I don't do bad things. I am straight and I know my ways so I wouldn't fit in that loser category. The not so loser inabti.

I got carried away abti. May Allah forgive me for the foul language which I have scripted above. According to Islam. They are both zaaniyiin. meaning they are both sinnders. The guy and the girl perhaps did have intercourse previously so that would earn them 100 whips each in public. However such action wouldnt' be taken nor would that guy be blamed for all the crimanality unless full prove that she wanted no part of this and she was forced to. The current ruling was as a result of the vidoe which was caught by the hall cameras. However there wasn't any other evidence. His actions could have been as a result of being drunk and her actions could also have been because she was under the influence and other wise wouldnt' resist him. All these have to be taken into account. But it seems more than likey they were having intercourse hence being alone and drunk together. The other act of sin which they BOTH commited is consuming alcohol. they would be demand to seek forgiveness from Allah. I can't recall any punishment set forth for one who drinks alcohol. If I can't remember at the moment I will scroll through my collection of books to see if I can find anything about alcohol related crimes/punishments. As for the people who watched behind closed doors. I dont' have anythign to say to them. They might have feared as result of the screaming. This is U.S and everyone buufis ayuu iska qabaa naftiisana way ubaqaan.

An accident waiting to happen>

LOL@ Dahia. That is freaky. lol@being horny. Naa xishood...just kidding. No I wouldn't God forbid. Nor would I even go for it even if she offered. I would say 'nacala shaklak dhiidhiibso'. lool Anyways, that would be high level dating. That almost happens every time. Two respectable people aren't capable of doing something like this. But these two weren't on that kinda date, theirs was low life xalimo+farah get together with alcohol involved in it. Zulekha, Walal, if you make poor choice in life, you will fall flat face on yourself. She made a terrible choice at this point and she paid an hefty price for it. I just wish the girl never made such choices in the first place.

Zulekha, Rape is really bad thing to a woman. That is exactly why she needed to avoid it instead of walking into a one. She did everything to set herself up for that moment. she gotten wasted, was alone with two men in apartment building. If she knew that she would be screwed, she should never have done what she did that enabled that guy to strip her clothes off. Also it aint a rumour that she lives and came from MPLS to this nigga in St.Paul to have few drinks with him and perhaps further screwing around also. It was all some sinful night for both. Dahia, Okay. Let us just move on then. I think everyone got what they deserved. The lady(sex seeker or rapist seeker) got what she deserved and the the rapist got what he deserved (25 yrs in hell in cell). case closed.

What do you think of that Farax, you know all that shifting that gearrrrrr. Miji baasto? isnt' that use to refer to somali men. Goormay dumar isu badashay? :eek:

Originally posted by Faarax-Brawn: Laakin Layaabo mayo qanfuurtaase, waxaan layabanahay ninki muslimka ahaa ee ka dhashay dadkii gobta ahaa ee Gabdhooha qiimin jiray,ee Somaliga ahaa oo sidatan uhadlayo? :rolleyes: All you have to do is say that you don't want to hear my opinion. That is my honest opinion. I do respect my somali ladies, but an harlot isn't one of them sorry to come across as man who has no heart though. I do love our women and respect them very much.

SB and Aaliyah right on. NG, The guy has been taken care by the law. However what would you give the girl. Shall we dismiss her as the angel supressed by the devilish man? To the rest of you: Could we just calm down a notch here. It seems you are all angry and going crazy over really two bad human beings oo isku naf baxay. Let us come to middle ground. I will consider this man as a rapist, only if you start refering her as rapist seeker! :eek:

He got 25 yrs in prison. So let us turn the attention on her. What has she done? according to you ladies, she hasn't done anything at all. I don't buy that story. Though by law she is the victim, in the muslim community she is at fault from the getgo (i.e. drinking and being in the same place with drunk guy). According to the people who examined her. It was 'attempted rape'. He stripped her clothes but he didn't really go all the way. Ps. I didn't mean to say that you should do such, just giving you different perspective.

wow knowledge and talent being let loose. I am very impressed. very moving poems and well done sxb. Thank you very much Bob.

^Amin. You could all be upset and going bananas. But what amazes me is how the girl is put on the back burner and no one is even talking about her faults. In la caayo way ku fiican tahay. Runtiina way tahay waxaa laga sheegayo. I will like to give you simple test. I dare you to sleep around with a guy, and get wasted with him the next week, then while he is about to make a move on you say NO...not tonight. You'd be puting yourself in a situation where this alcoholic yet horny farax has no choice but to do it by force. Who is to blame? you or him. I think both.

This isn't like sanctuary. we post and move on. No one should complain. I believe Somaliaonline is doing great. If people like mr. me stopped crying everytime somaliland is mentioned, maybe it would've been healthy place.

The bogus conference comes to an end and no accomplishments at all. Nothing at all. When brother Baashi was told this is a bogus conference, he lashed out against other members and name called them. This is what some elders said about this so called reconcialiation conference. " It started and elders met to drink coffee in a big hall but nobody seems able to explain what the real outcome is," Haji Adan Mohamed said. I believe this congress was just a holiday break for elders from faraway regions Here is the link to what the world has to say about the bogus conference.

Can you read somali? Good. inabti, red carpet ayaan kuudaadinay, ubaxyo qoyan ama laamo qalalan kolba kii aad rabtidna waan kuudhiibnay. kursigan wayn ee buushka ah kusoo fadhiiso. it's heated or can be cooled as you wish. Put your feet up and enjoy this cup of beverage of your choice hot or cold you got it. If you want some ice with that it's coming riiight up. Soodhawoow. Maraxaban ukhtii. welcome. Irashaimasu(Japanese). Khush ambeed(indian+paki). Bienvenue (French).Benvenuto(Italian). Intaasba adaa lagugu soo dhawaynayaa.

so you are munira. Sorry to bust out of your little nutshel(hiding place). Kawaran xaajigii? lol

Originally posted by Johnny B: OK , meel wan ku faristay , lakin, tell me , if you sleep once with a Halimo , are you automatically qualified for more sex with her? how many NO does it take to disqualify you ? Go ahead, air more of that, i guess i was wrong assuming that you were more reasonable than this!! Okay imagine this. This girl driving from MPLS to St.Paul or being driven from that location to their destination. Now imagine as I guy what you'd tell that chick. If you were him, you are aware that you wasted, low life farax who drinks and does all that stuff. On her occassion to come with him, she is also low life xalimo. On their way to their destination, he's telling her that they will be drunk tonight and that they will have some fun. If she wanted to say NO, she should have not come with him or gotten drunk with him in the first place. Laakin she sets herself up by jumping in that car, and gets wasted and yet she is complaining of being raped give me a break masiixi boy.

Originally posted by Emperor: This is a very sad incident, Somalida ilahay ha unaxiirsto hana soo hanuuniyo, Wiilal iyo gabdhaba, in the west things are getting out of control, Qamri+Rape, Subhanallah. That is the proper to put it atleast. The dude has done terrible things and so is the girl. Both are at Allah's mercy. And neither is free of guilt.

Originally posted by idil: So basically your reasoning is mac sokor, you deserved it? You don't believe that as humans we are prone to er? And that when she was saying no...she realised her mistake and was trying to get out? How did you know that she realized her mistake. If I use my logic. It takes a while for a guy to befriend with a girl, then get her drunk and bring her to an apartment. It takes a while, at least a week or so to say the least. I can sit here and tell you straight face that they had intercourse numerous times b4. She might have felt that she wasn't ready for this at that moment but that doesn't mean she was on her way to becoming inan fiican oo Ilahay taqaan. The guy wanted it before, cuz he got use to her and she wasn't ready that night. So he did what any bad a$$ human being would do. He got punished for, 25 yrs in prison. yet she is dismissed of being a victim who had no wrong at all. According to the man made laws of the U.S she is the victim, but according to our laws, she is naag xun herself.

Originally posted by Keyf: I can’t believe you are sitting here defending this b@stard. First of all whether she drinks or sleeps around for that matter is not the issue. She can do whatever she wants with her life and you have no right to judge her character. She obviously was not too drunk to agree to it….She is the victim here who was raped and humiliated in a hallway. :rolleyes: So by drinking and doing all sort of things against her respective nature isn't humiliation? As far as I know she humiliated herself more than the man. She put herself in that position to drink with him, have intercouse with him. Sooner or later she'd fall into this trapp which she did. She has no contact of being a poor lil girl. That is just trying to make her be an angel who had done no wrong at all. She was d-hilo.

I can almost say they might have slept with one another before. surely this wasn't their first time interacting. Now I don't care if most of you here are going nuts, but surely you don't want to hear the truth. And lately this place has become a place that no one can air their opinion. what are you all mad about I may ask? I am not in no way defending anyone, but it makes no sense to me to say that man was crazy and rapist when she equally were drunk and wild herself. She sold herself and if i wasn't afraid of breaking the SOL rules. I'd call her of being an harlot. Farax, That B1tch got what she is. She got b1tched. So what is so suprsing about that. Johny Boy, You and rest aren't in the same position. In your regard, drinking is OKAY cuz you are not Muslim, therefore it's really hard for me to discuss anything with you. Meel iifadhiiso yaa awmasiixi.

Inan fiican oo sharaf leh oo iyadoo halkaa iska maraysa nin xun oo siqraan ah uu qabsado= rape. Laakin inan xun+wiil xun+ Khamri= trouble. Whatever the results are from that bad combination the blame should lie on both of their shoulders. Since they were both involved in it. I can understand your frustrations. we are also equally as sad about this, but no one should really feel sorry for neither of them. They were both waste. I wish they grew up in better environment, but at this point they were both grown and have gone wrong. Again, the truth is not what you want to hear ladies. If you want to hear the truth that is the truth. If not then you may go ahead and think I am pro rapist or some sort which I am not. I am simply telling what most of people may not tell or what startribune newspaper knows nothing off. Perhaps the very reason why no one her or got involved is because everyone was like 'naa waa nin xun iyo naag xun oo is haysta'.

Dahia Al Kahina= Munira. hello walal awguuryo (waan lasoo habsaamay).

Driving a manual is unlady like but it seems to be their top choice. Go figure. lol

Firstly they were both drunk. So when both are juiced up there is no really blaming anyone because the girl sort of got herself into this mess. She should've known when she came all the way from MPLS to St.Paul, gets drunk with this man, isolates herself in apartment. She should've known that this guy would eventually do something to her. I don't know I can't think of many other things that a man who is drunk and on the peek of qooq could do. She refused...big mistake. PS. I am not saying the guy was good, but hey the girl aint no angel either.