Masha Allah that is refreshing news. Originally posted by money: Second, he said there were many Somali fighters from all over the regions, as far as Burco, Las Caanood, Garoowe, Abduwaaq, Cadaado and Ceelbuur. ^This may come as a suprise to some.

roads and landscape would make it look very decent. Malika were you xabad keentay, mise xabad sugtay that came to pass?

say what, another conflict?

I know a guy named Baxname shire mooge.

Masha Allah that is good. I have lived few years in the Gaashamo district and trust me I use to hear almost every week of people being killed. Ethiopian would indiscrimanately shoot men and women young and old the same. I am glad the movement is succeeding, and I hope that people of that region unite and rally behind the ONLA. ps. Do you know if the ONLA and the Alshabaab have any cooperation since they are fighting the same enemy?

NG, keep up the good work. I see about three new members in less than 2 weeks. LST should pay you for this.

Allegedly ??? Saaxib we are talking about a man who was one of the main reps of the TFG in khartoum accord vs. an article which is unware of the inside scoop of somalia. Believe the man who rep the TFG instead, he even brought the documentes signed by the head of parliament disallowing Ethiopian troops into the country just before Ethiopia decides to put forth another motion to challenge it, which they succeeded obviously.

^Put forth a legitimate peace accord that includes the withdrawal of ethiopian troops from Somalia unconditionally and without a second of a delay. The article clearly states how the TFG (inside spoiler) and the EThiopians (outside spoiler) are trying to put motion out along to amend anything they may think can end the invasion. They have opt out of the khartuum agreement according to the TFG representives like Professor Ibbi. This could be another one of those.

Adeer smiles won't get you out of it. You were hoping to score points, but things didn't go as plan did it mr. Xiinfaniin? If you want to be straight with the poeple and yourself here, you must feed them the truth. The truth you can't diss one somali inhabited area for supporting EThiopia and on the other glorify another, Puntland case in point. What is so simpleton about that saxib. And please also point out to me which part of my 6 accusation you deny?

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: As for other folks like supporting alshabaabs strategy line, I did call out on them as well. But since they did not have allegiance for Ethiopian puppets or hold disturbing political agendas like this dude does, I did not accuse them any duplicity at all. Each individual here is in support and holds high in regards to his/her home region. Somaliland is my home, and you can't tell me to be ashamed of it. Just as I can't tell you to denounce Puntland, because let us face it Puntland supports Ethiopia as well even to a greater degree. However you are fond of it and consider it as..... ps. Which Ethiopian puppet do I support? care to explain.. It’s the land of the pious! Only men of religion live there. _Xiinfaniin on Pland just recently. I hope you get the drift old man.

Miskiin, Xiinfaniin has no explanation for this. He supports Pland, loves it and admires is. That is no problem in my book since that is his home region.Offcourse he is an individual who is not responsible what the Pland adminstration has done. However it seems to me he wants to have his cake here and eat it at the same time. He wants to refer me as seperatist, thus exclude me from this convo, though side by side Pland has done most damage to Somalia.

'leave Puntland alone' but I can have a field day with somaliland' certainly that is xiin's logic. It has become a trend mr. xiinfaniin that you can't stay in topic knowing you don't have much of a chance. You follow the trend asking me a question as political observer who defines himself along Pro Alshabaab or resistance lines and before you know it waxaad ka tuurtaa Somaliland iyo meela kale. How come you have a hard time sticking to the topic at hand without dragging Somaliland into the fold. Certainly you ask people to stop mentioning Pland when they do so.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: ^^^Adeer anigu bad cas personally uma aqaan. Laakiin wuxuu qoray baan wax kula qaybsanayyaa. The man believes in dagaal southka ka socdaa uu iska socdo inta alshabaab Ethiopia ka adkaanayaan. Matter of fact he wants in alshabaab (super power miyaa balada) ay PL weeraraan oo ay gooyaan Ethiopia’s supply lines as he puts. All the while he makes it clear he supports separatist agenda in the North and does not want them be subjected to the same instability and chaos! That’s what he espouses on these boards. He wrote that he loves Secessionism to death. Marka adeer anigu ma aqaan inaad aqriday waxa wiilku qoray laakiin waxaas baan meesha ka aqriyey. And to me, it’s the stuff of the mindless separatist who wants to prolong Somali civil in the hope that it may someday help him achieve his cause! Xiinfaniin what a silly remarks you just made I believe anyone can see to it. Simple question old man. Does somaliland= violence in Southern Somalia. Does believing in somaliland equal in continuing the problems in Southern somalia? How do you rate that i want choas to continue in the south? Wasn't I the one celebrating the ICU victory over the warlords, wasnt I and many other SLanders in support of the ICU even when some members did say openly that there is no such thing as'lalanand'. Maxad iska hadashaa. You said I support the Alshabaab for self interest. well what interest may that be? other than that they are legit resistance group. Since I am also pro seccesion, and Alshabaab is pro unity, then what does that tell you? :confused: If this was self interest I would have dismissed them the day the Col.Turki of ICU threatened somaliland. I will let that slide laakin, don't bring that nonsense to try to convince anyone. Please explain....

^^And what is wrong with seccesionist getting involved in Southern Somalia politics? It's just one of your absurd way of throwing stones and expecting it unreturned. Let me put it another way for you, since you have dismissed my support for the Alshabaab for the simple reason that I am pro Somaliland, then can I also do the same by doubting your stances in this conflict? Can I character asasinate you by you refering as a Puntlander, the land of which Abdullahi Yusuf hails from, the land which has stood along side the Ethiopians both in trends of the battle field and in political arena. Think you have no connection to that? well same here, get my drift oday? Adeer at the end you want Alshabaab and the struggle to give up, legitimize the TFG after all it has done. You want also the Ethiopians to simply be forgotten and given a peaceful exit unconditionally with blood on their hands. So that Ethiopians can become daily costumer that illegally crosses the somalia' border at will. That is unexceptable to the resistance and those who have been on the battle ground from day one. So much has been laid out there to simply hands up and call it quits. Every nation on this earth has almost beein occupied, and almost everyone one of them after long struggle has been able to earn their hard won liberty. Howver you want the somali people in somalia to be humiliated, defeated, and you want to crown the traitors as the head of state so that they can rule wrongly just for the sake of 'peace'. Adeer ever heard of the saying 'gumaysi kunoolow, gobanimo kudhimo ayaa dhaanta' these aren't exclusive to Ceyrow jr. these are to millions of Somalis who feel that Ethiopia must pay for their careless invasin, that the thugs of the TFG must be held responsible and be brought infront of the masses which they commited their crimes against and they must be tried accordingly. I hold these opinions with some of the pro unionists out there. What will you call them to be as well? ps. Galkacayo and Gorowe are peaceful as well don't forget dear old man. The people who are suffering are Southern Somalis.

Originally posted by dhulQarnayn: yep, Ceyrow jr. is a political bigot. Your screed is just a string of anti-TFG conspiracy theories. Your unwitty gripes about the support the leadership of the Somali State of Puntland may provide the TFG in no way gives you the right to insinuate that all the inhabitants of Puntland are to blame for Al-Shababs misfortunes. Saaxiib, just because the head of the TFG hails from Puntland does not mean that all Puntlanders are somehow in cahoots with his administration. But I understand how you can make this mistake - you don't know what you're talking about because you've become blinded by spurious zealotry. I'm not going to do a point by point rebutal of your lies - it's impossible to prove a negative. I will say this, your political biases and hatreds are very damaging to us all as a people and I fear that people of your calibur equipped with the power of the internet will propagate further hate and violence amongst Somalis. The SOL posters that hate the TFG, hate it zealously and they believe that most people do too. As well, they truly believe, contrary to all the evidence, that somehow the only way to defeat the TFG is through the use of bomb blasts, gunfire and assassinations- knowing full well that such tactics will not lead to victory. So in a nutshell, we need to find solutions to our civil strife by not suggesting to further expand the arena of conflict, i.e dragging Puntland into the mess in south Somalia, but rather work towards bringing Somalis together to fix our problems through non-violence. Not the people, the admin. Besides, how would you suggest somali problem be resolved? and more important question, do you oppose or support the TFG/EThiopian invaders?

^loooool...adeer pland state supports as well as alot of its citizens, somaliland also supports Ethiopia though its citizens don't support nor provide anything directly to Ethiopia' invasion. Is that qabyaaladnimo? That being said, why do folks like Xiinfaniin, Baashi, and Duke blame somalilanders for Ethiopia' use of port of BERbera when we darn know the ethios use pland as launching pad and points to infiltrate into somalia. Deal with the opinions of the individuals, attack them on such and expose them based on their own idealogies. But using what somaliland does in connection with what happens in SOL boards is jus insane. It's unfortunate that Ethiopia should feel this confortable anywhere in somali soil, but that is the reality. I am for liberating and cutting off any relations with them. That has always been my position. Who is up for it? Basically 'don't throw stones if you live in a glass house'.

^^That is no conclusion, those are 'recomendations' for which were left out in the Jabuuti accord. Which are in exact line with what I also said. Ethiopia and not the TFG has always stood on the way the destrupted any direct talks between somalis.As proven by the former TFG parlamantarian in the vidoe. The Ethiopian army General showed up in Djabuti during the talks,that should send a clear signal that Ethiopian wants to be included in first hand in everything somalis do.

Read it again. America doesn't give to support Somalia. Anyways you aint worth much of anything. Duul haqaliga kanafaysan, iyo waxaa tahay wax mataraane, Iskana naso, naf malihideh, .

loool...bal maxaa kagalay. Muslimna wuu sheeganayaa beenta gaaladana wuu soo qaadaya. Dameer waaxid.

Watch this vid: Prof. Ibbi was a member of the TFG parliament. He confesses what really went down and who derailed the Khartuom peace agreement. Here is part. 4

Al-Shabab: Conspiracy Has Failed Hiiraan Online Friday, July 04, 2008 Mogadishu, Somalia (HOL) - Spokesman for the Al-Shabab forces Sheik Mukhtar Roobow Abuu Mansuur said that a conspiracy organized by some TFG Parliamentarians to fight Al-Shabab forces in Bay and Bakol regions has failed. Sheik Mukhtar said the conspirators wanted to create unrest among civilians in the two regions [and blame it on Al-Shabab forces]. “Among those behind the conspiracy are Muse Sudi and Mohamed Qanyare and we tell them that they will fail in their conspiracy and that we are aware of their plans,” added Sheik Mukhtar who was speaking to Somaliweyn radio in Mogadishu. Sheik Mukhtar said that Al-Shabab forces have the capability to learn about anyone organizing activities against Al-Shabab forces. He added that they will continue their struggle to liberate Somalia from Ethiopian occupation. On a different note, Sheik Mukhtar welcomed efforts to reconcile feuding clans in Bay region and added that they will support any group that is working for peace and reconciliation. © 2008 Hiiraan Online Inc.

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MORE THAN 100 ETHIOPIAN SOLDIERS CONFIRMED DEAD. xabashidii Hiiraan iyo Galgaduud tagtay, oo inta la hubsaday 107 askeri laga diley, halka hubkii ay wateena intiisii badneyd waxna la qabsaday, waxna la gubey. [01-07-2008] Sarkaal sare oo ka tirsan xoogagga difaaca diinta iyo dalka Soomaaliya, isla markaasna ku sugan jiidda hore ee dagaalka maanta ilaa caawa ka socdey degaanka Matabaan ee gobolka hiiraan, ayaa warsidaha dalkanews u xaqiijiyey, in xoogagga xoreynta dalka hooyo ay cagta mariyeen ciidamadii itoobiya ee bilihii u dambeeyey ku dhex wareegayey gobollada Hiiraan iyo Galgaduud. Sarkaalkaan oo ka gaabsaday magaciisa, ayaa sheegay in xoogaggoodu ay ciidamada xabashida ka dileen ku dhowaad 107 askeri, halka dhaawacooduna uu tiro beelay, wuxuuna intaas ku daray in xoogaggoodu ay cadowga ka gubeen 11 gaari oo 5kamida tahay gawaarida dagaalka, wuxuuna sarkaalku sheegay iney gacanta ku dhigeen 5 madfac oo ah kuwa gawaarida lagu jiido loona yaqaan MADAAFIICDA GOOBTA iyo saanad aad fara badan. Dhow boqol oo kamid ahaa ciidamada jabay ee itoobiyaanka ayaa ka tallaabay xadka feer feer, sida ay noo sheegeen dadka deggan xadka ismaamulka Soomaalida, waxaana wararku intaas ku darayaan in ciidamo kale oo itoobiyaan ah oo kamid ahaa ciidamadii masiibadu ku qabsatay degaanka matabaan, ay duurka degaannadaas u kala yaaceen, tiiyoo ay xoogagga xoreynta dalka hooyo ay weli sii baacsanayaan. Khasaarahaan ba,an ee lala helay ciidamada cadowga, ayaa noqonaya kii ugu ballaaraa ee 24 saac gudohood loo geysto tegreega awr-kiraalaha u ah Mareykanka, marka laga reebo dagaalkii loo yiqiin sagaala beri, ee sanadkii hore ka dhacay magaalada Muqdisho, oo itoobiyaanka looga diley ku dhowaad 2400 oo maxaysato ah. "Ka xoreynta dalkeena, cadowga ku soo duuley, waa lagama maarmaan, gobanimo aan dhiig loo daadin been been iyo baryo laguma helo, waxaan ugu baaqeynaa shacabka soomaaliyeed ee xalaasha ah, iney qalabka u qaataan sidii ay u soo ceshan lahaayeen qaranimadoodii, sharaftoodii, calankoodii, iyo xornimadoodii, cadowga Allaah, iyo cadowga Ummadda Soomaaliyeed isku soo bahaysteen iney dharaar cad burburiyaan", sidaasna waxaa yiri Sarkaalkaan ka tirsan xoogagga difaaca diinta iyo dalka Soomaaliya ee la soo xiriirey Warsidaha Dalkanews.com. Dalkanews.com Guriceel

Mareykanka oo ka quustay in Itoobiyaanku u qabtaan Soomaaliya, oo xusul-duub ugu jira keenista ciidamo Afrikaan ah oo khabaar moog ah. [02-07-2008] Maamulka George Bush oo bilo uga hareen joogitaanka xafiiska Aqalka cad ee Mareykanka, ayaa bilaabay baryootan iyo waawarey aan caadi ahayn oo uu dalalka Afrikaanka uga codsanayo iney la soo dhaqsadaan ciidamadii ay ballan qaadeen iney u soo dirayaan Soomaaliya, isla markaasna ay soo raaciyaan ciidamadaas, dhaqaalihii loogu daad-gureyn lahaa Soomaaliya. Saraakiil ka tirsan wasaaradda arrimaha dibedda ee Mareykanka, ayaa beryahaan ku mashquulay xiriiro isdaba-joog ah oo ay la sameeyeen madaxda dalalka Burundi; Ugaandha; Malawi; Naigeria; Koonfur Afrika; iyo Masar, waxaana saraakiisha Mareykanku ay dalalkaas ka dalbadeen, in wixii ka horeeya bisha Nofembar ee sanadkaan dalka Soomaaliya la geeyo 8000 oo ciidamo ah. Mareykanka oo dabayaaqadii bishii December ee 2006dii soo geliyey dalka Soomaaliya, 170 kun oo xabashi ah, ayaa hadafkiisu ahaa in dalka oo dhan lagu qabto muddo 3 bilood ah, sida ay hore u caddeeyeen saraakiil mareykan ah, waxaase taasi iska diidey oo nama marto yiri, wadaniyiin Soomaaliyeed oo kaashanaya shacabkooda xalaasha ah. Ciidamada xabashida oo mareykanku saacidayo, ayaa xasuuq iyo barakicin ka geystey dalka Soomaaliya, waxayna burburiyeen dhammaan qeybihii nolosha ee shacbiga Soomaaliyeed, hase yeeshee 19 bilood oo dagaal ba,ani ka socdey dalka, ayaa ciidamadii xabashida noqdeen wax la laayey, wax dalal kale u firxaday, qaar u dulqaadan waayey dhibaatada dagaalka oo waashay ama is-deldeley, iyo in uu dabagaallaha ka taliya itoobiya males zanawi dib ula cararay si uu isugu waardiyeeyo. Ciidamadaan Afrikaanka ah ee uu maamulka Bush la ordayo, ayaa lagu micneeyey laba arrimood inuu uga gol leeyahay;- 1- inuu sidii Aabihiis abuuro dhibaato uu uga siibto maamulka soo socda ee mareykanka oo lagu wado iney doorashada mareykanka ku guuleystaan xisbiga dimoqoraadiga oo uu horkacayo Barak Obama, 2- iyo inuu Afrikaanka haadaan u qodo, si ay iyago isugu baaba,aan. Taasi waa tii George Bush, tan Allaahna wey taagan tahay. Dalkanews.com

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