LOL. You'd disappoint me if you weren't.

Ng, You must read them all, ilayn sooryaa kugu maqane. LOL. BTW.. interesting thread title. I wasn't expecting a book review. Doubt it@ C&H as it's a Somali book. Try redsea-onlin.com or aftahan.org

@i suuriyaay. Interesting.. I have Ladh lying around somewhere. Have you read that?

It gets weirder...another couple facing jail.. ‘I’ll kiss you and take you to bed’ Thursday 18 Mar, 2010 This is just one of a series of raunchy text messages that resulted in a married stewardess and an airline colleague ending up in prison. The female flight attendant and the male cabin supervisor, who both work for Emirates, have been jailed for three months after being found guilty of coercion to commit sin. And 7DAYS has seen a transcript of the messages, which include phrases such as ‘I will give you kisses, I will give you roses’ and ‘My love grows bigger every day’. However, some of the other texts are too lewd to print, including several messages about having sex. The two crew, who are both Indian and aged 42 and 47, were initially sentenced to six months in prison and deportation, however the sentence was cut in half by Dubai Court of Appeal. Sister tried to help pair cover up relationship The woman’s 25-year-old sister was also convicted of perjury and sentenced to three months and deportation by Dubai Court of First Instance. Her deportation order, though, was quashed on appeal. A senior official at Dubai Courts told 7DAYS they had punished the trio because the sister had tried to cover up for the flight attendant. And he said, the court had been convinced that the messages were sent between the two cabin crew. “The sister tried to cover up for the married woman and she claimed that she was the one who was sending and receiving the messages, even though the number belonged to the married woman,” the official said. The story came to light when the husband filed a lawsuit against his wife last March, claiming she was having an illicit relationship. The couple have been locked in divorce proceedings since 2007 as they battle for custody of their four-year-old son. During the case, the husband requested that the courts order Etisalat to produce copies of his wife’s text messages, which, he said, proved the illicit relationship. Five months later, the husband filed a criminal complaint against her, accusing her of having an affair and saying her text messages were an insult to Islam. His wife claimed that her sister had sent the messages to the supervisor, who also denied the relationship. He told officers that he had been seeing the sister for four years. The two cabin crew had faced a charge of having an illicit affair, but prosecutors said they could not prove a physical relationship took place. 7days.ae

Originally posted by Prince of Punt: quote:Originally posted by Oz: it's a shame how other SOL girls laugh at another ones misery. I agree, i thought Somali Sisterhood was one of the strongest bonds in our society equal to that of Mother & Son, but maybe i was wrong? Somali sisterhood? LOL.

^Xayaati, finally jumped on board. Good on ya. I don't know about the states but in the UK they had ethnic Minority achievement departments aimed at improving acheivement of minority kids and involving parents was a big part of the process. In Somalia parents sent kids to school and that was that. Sadly many parents get lost in this system but I'd wager that the situation improving as most of todays Somali parents would have come to the west as youngsters themselves.

^I've seen many turns for the worst too. I do agree that families who move together tend to do better and I dare say it's bacause parents pay more attention to their kids, they have more time, less distractions.. but they still face the same challenges parents in the west do- sometimes worse. Lychee, No one is talking about parents love / intentions here. Lets not get issues twisted, please. I believe that there is a baseless fantasy that Muslim countries will magically transform your stupidh little xabiiby. If he is easy to influence, a natural born ciyaal suuq, meel walba waa loogu talin oo wax uu qaso ma waayayo. If he is acting out due to poor parenting skills, those problems are going to follow you abroad too. With musaafuris parents blame gaaloda, wadanka, asxaabta it's never their little darling and with that attitude, you've failed before he even boarded the plane.

Blimey, B ! Put a damper on a feel good topic why don't ya. It's a village school; mixed age groups an peer education is the norm. Uniform expensive and pointless. The kids are reading, not writing. Clearly, their photo being taken will distract them a bit..

Originally posted by Malika: We recently had a 'Somali day' at an Early Year Centre,parents were confronted by statics,their children are underachieving, blah,blah.. Many of the parents could not understand how and why their children only. It was obvious,our parents didnt understand how child development assessments are carried out for children in early year settings. Our parenting skills,dont really pay attention to if the child by age 4 is fully toilet trained,can eat with a folk , can tie his own shoes/undress by himself,has fluency of a language and on and on..This way of parenting/raising children is really a new concept to us. Interesting. I guess cultural differences are at play here, our culture tend to see children as needy, weak, unable.. empty vessels which need to be filled (s.l.o.w.l.y) which is the opposite to EYFS approach. I do think that telling parents that their child is falling behind is a bit OTT- kids at that age should be working towards dressing on their own, independence, separation from parents , etc. under the EYFS. Are they offering training / workshops on child development to these parents? I'm explaining the EYFS approach to Arab / Indian parents. They like the Somalis pay little attention social / emotional and physical development but have very high and unrealistic academic expectations.

^cultural dress, niqaab and higher educational achievement. Nice mix, indeed. Makes me proud, it does..

I think it's lazy parenting!! There are ****** kids, drugs, alcohol, criminal activity everywhere. The grass is not greener over there. There might'nt even be grass over there. They need to deal with their problems head on.

Lychee, Given your age, it's normal. I felt the exact same when I was your age. I didn't think I could be married and not end up in the headlines as a hubby killer. I think it's good that your thinking about your responsibilities and it's also good to think about your boundaries- what you expect out of a marriage and what you won't tolerate before you get married.. you seem to be exploring these now, so good on ya. Don't let people discourage you.

Ibts, Don't beat yourself up, you've already done a million and one worthy things. Think about what's stopping you? If it isn't essential, sort it out. I second Serenity, list it. I use 43thing.coms and 43places.com. I can never get past 11 things on my to do list. Forgetful is my middle name, I generally go with the flow, par the essentials- I list these and set reminders. p.s lets not forget that we all thread different paths, it's useless comparing yourself and sometimes it's just wasn't in your qadr.

Originally posted by Faarax-Brawn: I will like to be a teacher,but only back in Africa,so i can whoop them kids' azzes That means you want to be in a position to beat kids senseless rather than to teach them about consequences of wrong actions... Another teacher here. I'm in Primary, Infant phase so I deal with a different kettle of fish.

Originally posted by Lychee: Eng: Well my take on marriage is that it's SUPPOSE to unite two people together on the basis of love, understanding, co-operation and mutual advice, yet it often ends in a disaster. It also often succeeds into healthy and loving relationships but if it did end in disaster would that kill you? Life isn't a walk in the park babes, we all get tested some way or another and we often move on, grow and find happiness / peace / security once again. p.s these feelings are normal but most people get over it.

^Yes, NN. NN = Naxar Nugaaleed.

^You can still go on your own terms. That's what I plan to do, Insha Allah.

The Zack- Adigaa abtirsi doon ah, ma istidhi? Though, I don't see the problem with knowing peoples qabiils / regions. I think AbuJ was looking for a more global input. I think the places we grew up and the cultures we were exposed have more of an impact on our charecter, outlook than our qabils.

NG, This isn't a unique story and Somali (and Asians) wadaad (emphasis on some and not all) usually repond with become a raaliyo be patient- this doesn't change the man in question or protect the womans Islamic rights that are getting abused. I've seen it happen so many times, even in serious cases where women end up in hospital because they were told to put up or they'll never smell jannah. As far as right to divorce - the Prophet (saw) granted a divorce because the woman simply didn't like her husband, she found him ugly and revolting but acknowledge his good character. He loved her and wanted her but the divorce was still granted. Islam is not about suffocating people and it does piss me off when people twist things around because they somewhat feel that women fickle and don't know what is best for them. No sane woman is going to end a good marriage or even a marriage that can be saved. When women want mediation they go to there families or they ask for it. They wanta divorce they go to an imaam for that – not a sentence to hell. I agree that there should be a process but that it needs to be fair and balanced.

^Please do. I was born in Abha KSA. Raised in Somalia, KSA and mostly UK. The Zack- don't forget people moved around a lot due to work.

^Yous lot waad faan badantihiin. Naga dhaafa, hee. :rolleyes:

C&H. My bad. Some shaikhs particulary Somalis waan ka yaaba. It is amazing how they magnify the faults of a woman and but with raga hadaanu gaaloobin you should be praying shukr for him- never mind rights and responsibilities.

She helped him snatch kids from their mother? Habaar baa haya qofta.. She can do a khula or ball crunch.. Isagaa iska carari.

I've read a few what seems like a century ago. I do remember bits and bobs about his biography. a

Sheh. have you ever tried these? I'm not a huge fan of mascara / eyeliner but my mum uses this all time and it's pretty good.