The perfect praise be to Allaah, The Lord of the Worlds. I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allaah, and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger. It is a condition for a woman to have a Mahram with her when travelling but not when staying in her residence; the Hadeeth which you referred to meant this. Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “A woman must not travel except with a Mahram.” [Al-Bukhaari and Muslim] As regards a woman staying in her residence, then it is a condition that she be in a place where she feels secure about herself but it is not a condition that she has a Mahram with her as we clarified in Fatwa 120947. Besides, the father is not obligated to reside with his daughter nor is he obligated to travel to his son. In case he volunteers to do so, then he should look to what is better and more beneficial. However, you may consult each other on this matter and exchange your views about it. Al-Bukhaari reported in "Al-Adab Al-Mufrad" from Al-Hasan Al-Basri who said: “I swear by Allaah, no people consult each other except that they would be guided to the best options that they have; and then he recited the saying of Allaah (which means): {…and whose affair is [determined by] consultation among themselves.} [Quran 42:38]” Allaah Knows best. http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=155371 I'm only posting to show that there are differences of (Islamic) opinion on these issue and that is a blessing. InshaAllah, people will look at all the options and choose what is good for them and theirs.

The Islamic legal rulings that pertain to the daily affairs of life are always connected to the welfare of the people in their individual lives and in their relationships with each other. Such rulings, therefore, have causes that can be grasped by reason and understood in a clear and precise manner. These rulings differ from those that pertain to acts of worship, since acts of worship are connected to the benefits of the Hereafter and our direct relationship with Allah. Such matters are generally not discernable to the human intellect. Many great scholars have tried to determine the wisdom behind why we do certain things in prayer and in pilgrimage - and quite often they have failed and said: "This is purely a matter that we must accept on faith. Allah knows best about it." The ruling that a woman may not travel without her husband or a male escort from her immediate family (a mahram) falls under the first category of rulings. We can appreciate the reason for the prohibition. When we understand that the reason for this prohibition is the fear for her sanctity and honor and the fear that she might be taken advantage of or raped, then we know that the issue is one that needs to be weighed in light of the benefits and harm present in a given situation. Therefore, we have the opinion in Islamic Law that it is permissible for a woman to travel without a mahram when she is reasonably assured of her safety or when traveling poses no more danger for her than staying at home. The latter situation is often the case in non-Muslim countries where walking down her own street can be more dangerous for her and full of temptation than sitting on board an airplane. The environment of an airplane is quite often safer and more wholesome than that of the neighborhood in which she lives. From this point of departure, we shall present the evidence and juristic reasoning of the people of knowledge: `Adî b. Hâtim relates that Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said to him: "O `Adî, have you seen al-Hîrah (a region in Iraq)." `Adî replied: "I have not seen it, but I have heard of it." Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said: "If you live long enough, you will see a woman departing by camel in a litter and traveling until she reaches the Ka`bah without fearing anyone but Allah." `Adî informs us that he thought to himself: "Where are the robbers and bandits who run rampant through the land?" Then `Adî says: "I have seen a woman travel by camel litter from al-Hirâh to the Ka`bah fearing no one but Allah." [sahîh al-Bukhârî] This hadîth shows us that it is permissible for a woman to travel unescorted if the road is safe. Someone might argue that the statement of the Prophet (peace be upon him) is merely reporting that such a thing would one day take place, not that it is permissible. However, this argument is weak. This statement is made in a context of praising Islam and showing its future ascendancy. Therefore, it must be assumed that what is being used to indicate such praise is permissible in and of itself. Moreover, `Adî b. Hâtim saw this woman and did not condemn her action, nor did anyone else. Al-Bâjî, in al-Muntaqâ, writes: "Perhaps what some of our scholars have said (regarding prohibition) refers only to cases where the woman is alone or with a small group. As for the great caravans and the secure major thoroughfares, they are to me no different than the places of residence that are filled with markets and merchants. In such cases, her safety is secured without the presence of a mahram or female companions. This opinion has been related to us from al-Awzâ`î." Qâdî `Iyâd, when discussing the prohibition of a woman traveling without a mahram to escort her, says: "This refers only for a young woman. As for an older woman who is less enticing, she can travel anywhere she wants without her husband or a mahram. Ibn Daqîq al-`Id: considers this a specification of a general ruling in consideration of the meaning behind it." The great jurists Mâlik and al`Awzâ'î - and also al-Shâfi`î in his more prevalent opinion - rule that a mahram escort is not a condition for a woman to make her obligatory pilgrimage. The only condition is that she will be safe on the journey. Al-Shâfî'î says: "Safety can be achieved by her being chaperoned by her husband or her mahram, or by the company of other trustworthy women." Some scholars have said that if it is safe enough, she needs no one to accompany her. She can travel alone along with the caravans and be safe. This is indicated by the hadîth of `Adî that we mentioned earlier. Permissibility is even more certain when a woman cannot find a mahram and her best interests are to be secured by her traveling. Permissibility is indisputable in cases where travel becomes a necessity for her, on account of the principle in Islamic Law that necessity makes unlawful things permissible. This is why the scholars have permitted a woman to travel unescorted to emigrate from a non-Muslim country to a Muslim one. In some situations, they even declare such a journey to be obligatory upon her. And Allah knows best. And may the peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad. www.islamtoday.com

Well said, Chimera. Turkey also has a large construction sector, there's potential for cooperation there. I really appreciate this guy for raising the bar in this dialogue.

What's wrong with a Somali tanning? As long as they do it safely, the sun gives you a healthy glow.

I'm not comparing anything Aaliyah, I was having a joke with you, hence the smileys.

4 years time yaa isla gaadhaya, London will be unbearable this summer. If he can find money to cut costs why hasn't he tried to avert the increases in the first place?

Is Dr Maryan talking at the event?

Aaliyyah;826916 wrote: Blessed, im not an araweelo..see ka noqotay lol salaam Being Araweelo is not a bad thing, love... embrace it. :D

burahadeer;826996 wrote: @ Blessing.....it's not about Islaanta per se.It's about wrong believe ingrained! biduun diintu waa badantay....now foreigners could be somali in 5yrs..guess what? Wrong believe goes both ways, sow maaha? This believe that all "koonfurians" are enemies of reer SL. As for foreigners becoming Somali is a Somalia issue-- miyaad ilowday. :D I'm sure you've heard, SL has recently kicked out a Kenyan for bringing gaalo dhaqan to our Muslim country.

Horta siyaasada Somaalida wey kharibantahay, in la kala gaabsado ayaan aminsanahay. Laakin in ummad dhan la isku daro waa khalad, islaanta suuqa xamar tomaandho ka iibinaysaana kolay waxay ka fikiraysaa siday ilmaheeda u cashaysiin lahayd, sida ta hargaisa maanta yana tomaandho la fadhida. Dadkan aad sheegaysaan idinkaaba ka sii daray.

Coofle;826953 wrote: Lessons need to be free of bias, ,,, Explain. What has bias got to do with my question? You either believe that Dawladii Siyaad has bombarded the northern cities or it didn't. You implied that it was a lie before Oba called you up on it. Buurahadheer, LOL@ Ciisa bidiin, Musa bidiin. Adna biduun diin, sow maaha? Landerska ma adaaba la keenaya? p.s Thanks, but I'm not asking for history lessons.

^how could we take them as lessons when you deny it happened?

50,000 yaa sheegay? The number is new to me. LOL@ at the old man, did they take him home tolow.

^They still are protected areas. Looks like paradise on earth. SubxanAllah. Abwaan, go for it walaal, Illaahay ha kuu sahlo, cilmigaas waa loo baahanyahay.

I did but isagaan ka naxay, waxaan is idhi, *miskiin, is that the best he can come up with?*. Not easy dealing with an Araweelo like our Aaliyah.

LOL. Aaliyah.

^It's not ideal but how is it unislamic? You also need to understand the context in which they created their constitution, coming out of colonialism with oil wealth in the horizon. As they only make up 20% of the population in their own country, I can see why they feel the need to be protective of their identity. They also support their citizens in a way (expensive) that many other nations don't. It would be better if they did have a perminant residence system in place but to be honest, aprt from Somalis, most understand what they are getting themselves into and even set up schools that are linked with their home countries so that their children can go to universities in their own countris. As for Somalia, I think we owe the world. Have to say that at the moment, being a Somali pp holder in the Somali regions doesn't give you a special status. Anyone can go and set up office, no need for visas etc. What incetive would I have to get a Somali passport when my British PP holder status doesn't put any limitations on me?

^I know what you mean. I like Abaaya because you can wear it on it's own and I don't like to layer too much, if I can avoid it. Arabs kind of put me off it it, abaaya culture in the ME is very different to abaaya culture in the west, so I prefer dresses. I find A-line cuts are modest for me and buy a size bigger if needed. Juxa, To be honest, I didn't have problems finding nice, modest dresses until recently.At the moment, I love the Inayah Collection but I'm sure I could come up with similar styles, not as loud and cheaper. http://inaya.we-convey.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=65_66

I neither text or call anyone, most wonder why I even bother with carrying a phone, it's a miracle that I still have friends...

*Ibtisam;826073 wrote: In your own words he is selfish, lazy, immature, uncaring and irresponsible (does want to work for his family)! great sounds like an ideal husband and you should bend over backwards to stay with him, so him and his family can take turns emotionally abusing you. She changed her mind about all that, my darling husband iyo I didn't mean it were her concluding remarks. Reminds me of that Somali proverb, walaasha isku ma hubtid seediga ha isku xumeyn, hence, it's better not to get involved in married peoples problems, especially when you only hear one side of the story.

I once had that raw Swedish fish in vinegar, maybe Malika knows about it. Didn't like it but my friend literally stuffed it in my mouth. I'd try anything, xalaal and cooked.

OdaySomali;826296 wrote: So the deal he offered them is I will help you only if I can have sex with all of you ? How very selfless of our pal. What was the going rate, $50 for sex per month ?? Its a ruthless system in which sex is exchanged for money/help. In some cases the brother(s) might marry the wifes not to actually take them as wifes, but selfishly its an arangement to prevent the women marrying another man for money/help in exchange. You see, the pride of Somalis does not allow the family of the man to help the woman/children should she marry another man (outside the family). You hit that on the nail.. it's their duty to look after their brothers children. Cawaan iy nus!

that's the point, women need a man who can handle the wareer, that boils down to personality, not money, wax fahan.

^speaking of mad women, on your wedding myself and one of the other girls ayaa ku xamanay. When we saw how beautiful and cool you other half was, we declared that she must be mad, to have ended up with you... true story. Ibts, Huuno, you know me better than that.. For example, I've heard a girl say that she preferred a Dr to an accountant and I thought that was ridiculous, esp, as the Dr dude didn't have much of a personality going for him.

They don't seem that big any more, not compared to other cities after the mass Somali -Euro migration. Cardiff, Newport Somali communities were the first to be established in the UK. For some reason, the sea men in Wales brought their families or married and settled there whereas those in other parts, Liverpool, East London, didn't as much.