^^ Miskiin. If it makes you feel good, I thought it was funny and I am not saying that to be nice. Besides you can detect it is fiction ... breasts don't make breathing harder for women, their bodies are created to handle the weight lol@u wotless men >>> did you say little creatures adiga is just beging to be hit ma istidhi? careful with your words babes, you've already annoyed alot of folks here.

lol Do u want the real or the sharci one? Fir me... sharci = 17 Real... somewhere in the 30's -- geed hoostii aan ku dhashay lol. To answer your q. I think nomads come here to lossen up and excape from stress of life n stuff.. we act childish but are very mature well composed individuals off- line. Your as old as you feel, eh?

^^ I hate those jokes. And the other one.. Whats the fastest thing in 4 legs : A bread truck going through Somalia. Whats the fastest thing in two legs .. a Somalian running after it :rolleyes: :rolleyes: >>> I cussed a girl out for this one. What do you call matchsticks in a truck? Ten Somali Children :mad: :mad: :mad: NOT FUNNY :mad: :mad: Cawo loooooooooooooool@@@ 'Alahu Yaclam Airlines' maybe 'Geedka Magaadho' Arilines would be bettah! My lil bro got ill as well but they treat U good up there.. every day qof cusbaa ku casumaya! Man I so wanna be in Somalia

Originally posted by idil: To Ameena sister, I find myself disagreeing with you. "to non Somalis I am a Somali but to Somalis I prefer using the term Somalilander." Somaliland is a country seeking independence thus breaking any links it has with Souther Somalia. Puntland is doing the same. The way I see it, if you telling other Somali people you are a Somalilander, then you might as well say the same to other non Somalis. To be honest with you, I am not all that fussed. I am a Somali and I am also a Somalilander. Simple As! Ethnically ... we are all Somalis But anyway, I recently came to know that under the constitution of Somaliland you have the right to be a dual national. So my little confusion isn't misplaced lol Even, when Somaliland gets its recognition I would still in my view see my self as a Somali / Somalilander. I think, it is a matter of preference and the context in which it is used. With Somalis I say Somalilander because our people have a facination with regional politics, they want to know wether your a puntlander / somalilander xamarlander.. etc, etc! The reason why I don't bring up Sland to non-Somalis is because you'd have to give the history and details of the conflict etc... yaa wakhti u haya! I know it is a sorry excuse on my part but me is lazy .... Ilaahay baa i leh I can't spend my days educating ppl about Somaliland - esp. as I'm learning about it myself Anyhow, I have a brother of mixed parentage like you.He now lives in Hargaisa. So, he is a die hard Somalilander.. even with his heavey xamar accent. Then I got reer waqooyi relatives that are clueless about the whole situtaion. Like I said, what ever suites ya - me likes having as many nationalities as one can have. maybe I'll bug my birth-country for citizenship too ........

Originally posted by idil: To Ameena sister, I find myself disagreeing with you. "to non Somalis I am a Somali but to Somalis I prefer using the term Somalilander." Somaliland is a country seeking independence thus breaking any links it has with Souther Somalia. Puntland is doing the same. The way I see it, if you telling other Somali people you are a Somalilander, then you might as well say the same to other non Somalis. To be honest with you, I am not all that fussed. I am a Somali and I am also a Somalilander. Simple As! Ethnically ... we are all Somalis But anyway, I recently came to know that under the constitution of Somaliland you have the right to be a dual national. So my little confusion isn't misplaced lol Even, when Somaliland gets its recognition I would still in my view see my self as a Somali / Somalilander. I think, it is a matter of preference and the context in which it is used. With Somalis I say Somalilander because our people have a facination with regional politics, they want to know wether your a puntlander / somalilander xamarlander.. etc, etc! The reason why I don't bring up Sland to non-Somalis is because you'd have to give the history and details of the conflict etc... yaa wakhti u haya! I know it is a sorry excuse on my part but me is lazy .... Ilaahay baa i leh I can't spend my days educating ppl about Somaliland - esp. as I'm learning about it myself Anyhow, I have a brother of mixed parentage like you.He now lives in Hargaisa. So, he is a die hard Somalilander.. even with his heavey xamar accent. Then I got reer waqooyi relatives that are clueless about the whole situtaion. Like I said, what ever suites ya - me likes having as many nationalities as one can have. maybe I'll bug my birth-country for citizenship too ........

Originally posted by idil: To Ameena sister, I find myself disagreeing with you. "to non Somalis I am a Somali but to Somalis I prefer using the term Somalilander." Somaliland is a country seeking independence thus breaking any links it has with Souther Somalia. Puntland is doing the same. The way I see it, if you telling other Somali people you are a Somalilander, then you might as well say the same to other non Somalis. To be honest with you, I am not all that fussed. I am a Somali and I am also a Somalilander. Simple As! Ethnically ... we are all Somalis But anyway, I recently came to know that under the constitution of Somaliland you have the right to be a dual national. So my little confusion isn't misplaced lol Even, when Somaliland gets its recognition I would still in my view see my self as a Somali / Somalilander. I think, it is a matter of preference and the context in which it is used. With Somalis I say Somalilander because our people have a facination with regional politics, they want to know wether your a puntlander / somalilander xamarlander.. etc, etc! The reason why I don't bring up Sland to non-Somalis is because you'd have to give the history and details of the conflict etc... yaa wakhti u haya! I know it is a sorry excuse on my part but me is lazy .... Ilaahay baa i leh I can't spend my days educating ppl about Somaliland - esp. as I'm learning about it myself Anyhow, I have a brother of mixed parentage like you.He now lives in Hargaisa. So, he is a die hard Somalilander.. even with his heavey xamar accent. Then I got reer waqooyi relatives that are clueless about the whole situtaion. Like I said, what ever suites ya - me likes having as many nationalities as one can have. maybe I'll bug my birth-country for citizenship too ........

Originally posted by idil: To Ameena sister, I find myself disagreeing with you. "to non Somalis I am a Somali but to Somalis I prefer using the term Somalilander." Somaliland is a country seeking independence thus breaking any links it has with Souther Somalia. Puntland is doing the same. The way I see it, if you telling other Somali people you are a Somalilander, then you might as well say the same to other non Somalis. To be honest with you, I am not all that fussed. I am a Somali and I am also a Somalilander. Simple As! Ethnically ... we are all Somalis But anyway, I recently came to know that under the constitution of Somaliland you have the right to be a dual national. So my little confusion isn't misplaced lol Even, when Somaliland gets its recognition I would still in my view see my self as a Somali / Somalilander. I think, it is a matter of preference and the context in which it is used. With Somalis I say Somalilander because our people have a facination with regional politics, they want to know wether your a puntlander / somalilander xamarlander.. etc, etc! The reason why I don't bring up Sland to non-Somalis is because you'd have to give the history and details of the conflict etc... yaa wakhti u haya! I know it is a sorry excuse on my part but me is lazy .... Ilaahay baa i leh I can't spend my days educating ppl about Somaliland - esp. as I'm learning about it myself Anyhow, I have a brother of mixed parentage like you.He now lives in Hargaisa. So, he is a die hard Somalilander.. even with his heavey xamar accent. Then I got reer waqooyi relatives that are clueless about the whole situtaion. Like I said, what ever suites ya - me likes having as many nationalities as one can have. maybe I'll bug my birth-country for citizenship too ........

A rip off!! A few of my mates that went back to Somalia came back looking bigger then when they left. Contrary to common believe Life is pretty good in Somalia (for those with money or relative outside the country). despite the political unrest!!

I feel you girl. I feel you :mad: :mad: At least you pray regularely.. thats becoming a task for me :rolleyes: Allah help us... I guess like you I need to get me some counselling also. I am begining to think that maybe I should move to a muslim country for a while. But this forum helps. I think ama become a permenant resident of the Islam section ... hoping it will keep thinking Islamically at least .........

Part II There are many other stories that we know about of powerful believing mothers, wives and sisters and many, many that Allah only knows about. Whenever a halaqah is going on, the Muslim women outnumber the men. At the American Open University, (www.open-university.edu) the overwhelming majority of students are Muslim women. Go to an Islamic teachers/schools conference, attend a lecture and you shall see the mismatch of sisters to brothers. Sometimes it is sad to see all these brothers lacking the motivation that many Muslimahs have. But if there is a beautiful sign in all this, it is that - in sha' Allah ta'ala - those sisters are going to raise an army of believing men and women in the coming generation. WAllahu akbar! When Imam Ahmad was still young, his father died. He would tell his students of the work his mother went through in raising him, and he would pray for her. In the cold Baghdad nights, she would wake long before him to warm the water so that her son Ahmad could make wudu for Fajr. Then she would wrap him in blankets, herself cloaked in her Jilbaab, and guide him through the dark, cold alleys to reach the main Masjid, long before Fajr so that her son could get a good seat in class. Her son Ahmad - at that age in grade 2 or 3 would sit all day long studying Quran and Sunnah, and she would wait for him to finish so that she could drop him home safely. At the age of 16, she prepared money and food for him and told him, "Travel for your search of knowledge." He left for Makkah and Madinah and many other places and met many great scholars. She raised Ahmad to become one of the four greatest Imams in Islam. Dear sister, after all this, ask a non-Muslim what it is that he wants from you? Does he want you to be liberated? Liberated from what? From Allah and His Messenger? From the Quran and the Sunnah? From Jannah? From this diin that Allah chose for you? And what is he going to give you in return? Happinness? By Allah, he does not own any happiness to give. Is he going to give you love and protection from punishment in the grave and from the gatekeepers of hellfire and from death? Why is it that they want to liberate young beautiful women? Why don't they liberate the seniors? Why don't they liberate the indigenous? Why don't they liberate the inmates? Why is their target audience a young and skinny and tall women (their definition of beauty) between the age of 13-28? And why is their first call for you to take off your Hijaab? Remember that friend - if you consider him so carefully, for without any doubt, by Allah he shall be your bitterest enemy on the day of Repayment: "Friends on that day will be foes, one to another except the Righteous." Surah Zukhruf (43/67) One Kafirah summed up exactly what they think of women, "It's not who you are, it's what you wear and what you look like!" And listen to Fabian, a french `model' (of what?), as she spit on the fashion industry. "Fashion houses made me into a mannequin, a wooden idol. The mission: to manipulate hearts and alter minds. I learnt how to be worthless, nothing on the inside, cold. We lived in a world of filth in all that filth means." When the Prophet - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam stood on the plain of Arafah and gave his farewell speech he said to the Ummah, "Treat the women kindly!" History records that in Europe in that very same year, at the same time that Islam was saying this, the Christian clergy were arguing whether a women was a human or an animal! Those clergymen are the ancestors of the Kuffaars that now want to `liberate' you. There is much more than can be said. I shall conclude with the advice of Rasul Allah sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam - to every Muslim mother, daughter, and wife: "If the women prays her five (Salah), fasts her month (of Ramadan), protects herself (from committing Zina), and listens to her husband, it will be said to her, `from any door you wish, enter Paradise!" Sister, that is where you want to be. "O ye who believe! give your response to Allah and His Messenger, when He calls you to that which shall give you life; and know that Allah cometh between a man and his heart, and that it is He to Whom ye shall (all) be gathered." Surah Anfal 8/24 Allah and His Messenger are calling you to life. Dear sister, reply!

Salaams This article may be long but it is truely inspirational. Well for me anyways So, I thought I'd share it with ya. Hope you benefit from it also. Enjoy! ---- When news of the Christian army that had prepared on the horizons to wipe out Islam reached him, Abu Qudaamah Ash-Shaamee moved quickly to the Mimbar of the Masjid. In a powerful and emotional speech, Abu Qudaamah ignited the desire of the community to defend their land, Jihad for the sake of Allah. As he left the Masjid, walking down a dark and secluded alley, a women stopped him and said, "As salamu alaykum wa Rahmatullaah!" Abu Qudaamah stopped and did not answer. She repeated her salam again, adding "this is not how pious people should act." She stepped forward from the shadows. "I heard you in the Masjid encouraging the believers to go for Jihad and all I have is this." She handed him two long braids. "It can be used for a horse rein. Perhaps Allah may write me as one of those who went for Jihaad." The next day as that Muslim village set out to confront the crusader army, a young boy ran through the gathering and stood at the hooves of Abu Qudaamah's horse. "I ask you by Allah to allow me to join the army." Some of the elder fighters laughed at the boy. "The horses will trample you," they said. But Abu Qudaamah looked down into his eyes as he asked again, "I ask you by Allah, let me join." Abu Qudaamah then Said, "On one condition, if you are killed you will take me with you to Jannah amongst those you will be allowed to intercede for." That young boy smiled. "It's a promise." When the two armies met and the fighting intensified, the young boy on the back of Abu Qudaamah's horse asked, "I ask you by Allah to give me 3 arrows." "You'll lose them!" The boy repeated, "I ask you by Allah to give me them." Abu Qudaamah gave him the arrows and the boy took aim. "Bismillaah!" The arrow flew and killed a Roman. "Bismillaah!" The second arrow flew, killing a second Roman. "Bismillaah!" The third arrow flew, killing a third Roman. An arrow then struck the boy in the chest knocking him off the horse. Abu Qudaamah jumped down to his side, reminding the boy in his final breaths, "Don't forget the promise!" The boy reached into his pocket, extracted a pouch and said, "Please return this to my mother." "Who's your mother?" asked Abu Qudaamah. "The women that gave you the braids yesterday." Think about this Muslimah. How did she reach this level of Taqwa where she would sacrifice her hair when today other women do the same to imitate Kaafir icons, and her son when other women would die so long as their son stayed home. Indeed, she spent her life in the obedience of Allah, and when exam time came, she passed. Not only did she pass herself, but her children shone with that same beauty of Iman, children that she herself raised. Very often and perhaps in our times when we have forgotten much of the Sunnah - the lectures, khutbahs, and talks are all directed to the Muslim men. We forget that from the Hady - guidance and way of Rasul Allah sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam - was that he would allocate a specific day of the week to teach the women. Women would come up to him in Hajj, in the street, even in his home and ask him questions about the Deen. At the Eid Salah, after addressing the men, he would take Bilal and go to the women section and address the women. Allah revealed an entire Surah by the name of Surah An-Nisa - the Women. And another by the name of - Maryam. And a third by the name of al Mujaadalah - the women who pleads. It is in enlivening this Sunnah that today this speech shall be addressed to the believing women, al-Mu'minaat. Dear Sister, Dear Mother, Dear Daughter. Everyone is looking for happiness and fun, and I am sure you are not excluded. Where is that happiness and fun though? And where and when do you want that happiness? Do you want happiness, do you want to have `fun' in this life at the expense of the hereafter? Or is it in the hereafter, when you meet Allah that you want to be happy? Every where you go you shall find a swarm of people and media and culture swearing to you that happiness is the happiness of the Dunya. Is it really happiness though? On the day of Repayment, Allah shall take the most `happiest' kaafir of the Dunya and dip him in Jahannam - Hellfire. Then he shall ask him, "Have you ever seen any happiness?" The Kaafir will say, "Never!" Nay, the happiness is only the happiness of the hereafter no matter what happens in this Dunya. Allah shall bring on the Day of Repayment the most tested human and dip him in Jannah - Paradise. He shall then ask him, "Have you ever seen sadness?" And that person shall say, "Never!" And don't think that this happiness and fun is exclusive to the hereafter. It is very much tied to this life as well. Listen and understand the words of Allah: Whoever works righteousness, whether male or female, while he (or she) is a true believer verily to him We will give a good life (in this world with respect, contentment and lawful provision), and We shall pay them certainly a reward in proportion to the best of what they used to do (i.e. Paradise in the Hereafter). Surah AnNahl (16/97) Dear Sister, you have to understand that you or anyone may enter Hellfire! By Allah, we are not better than Fatimah, the daughter of Rasul Allah sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam. And he said to her, "O Fatimah the daughter of Muhammad, Ask me whatever you wish from my wealth, for I shall avail you nothing to Allah." Meaning that it doesn't matter if you're my daughter, if you don't work for Jannah, saying to Allah that my father is so and so will not help you in anyway. Islam is filled with many Mu'minahs that completed their Taqwa of Allah. When the other girls put up posters of kafir singers and kaafir athletes and kaafir actresses, you should put up posters in your heart of Fatimah and many other Mu'minahs. Aasiyah, the wife of Fir'own. Her Eeman in Allah thrived under the shadow of someone that said, "I am your Lord, Most High!" When news reached Fir'own of his wife's Eeman he beat her and commanded his guards to beat her. They took her out in the scalding noon heat, tied her hands and feet and beat her perpetually. Who did she turn to? She turned to Allah! She prayed, "My lord, build for me a home with you in Paradise and save me from Fir'own and his deeds and save me from the transgressive people." It was narrated that when she said this, the sky opened for her and she saw her home in Paradise. She smiled. The guards watched astonished she's being tortured and she smiles? Frustrated, Fir'own commanded a boulder to be brought and dropped on Aasiyah, to crush her to death. But Allah took her soul before the boulder was brought and she became an example for all the believing men and women till the end of time. [And Allah has set forth an example for those who believe: the wife of Fir'own (Pharaoh) - when she said, "My Lord, Build for me a home with You in Paradise, and save me from Fir'own and his deeds, and save me from the transgressive-disbelieving people.] -Tahreem 66/11 When we talk about Jihad and Shuhadaa' -martyrs, do you know who the first Muslim in Islam to be killed in the path of Allah was? It was Summayah, the mother of Ammar. When Abu Jahl heard of her Islam and her husband Yaasir and her son Ammar, he whipped them all and beat them. So much so, that Rasul Allah would pass by them as they went through this test of their Iman and would say to them, "Be patient O family of Yaasir, for you have a date set (when you shall enter) Jannah!" As Abu Jahl beat Sumayyah one day, she refused to recant her Deen, something that enraged Abu Jahl. He took a spear as she lay on the burning sand, looking up to the sky, and he speared her through her midsection. She was the first of her family and the entire Ummah to meet Allah as a Martyr. Dear Sister, our role models come from the Quran. You may have heard the story of the boy and the king. When the entire village became Muslim by the death of that young boy, the king ordered that an enormous fire be kindled and that all those who would not recant their religion be burnt alive. A Mu'minah, stood with her baby over the fire. She looked at her baby, and seeking her child's weakness and innocence, she considered turning her back. The baby said to her, "What are you waiting for mother? Go forward for you are on the truth!" She nodded. Then with her baby in hand she was pushed to her death. "And they detested them not but that they believed in Allah, the Exalted in Might, the Praise worthy!" "To Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth! And Allah is Witness to all things." Surah AlBuruj, 8,9 And dear sister, your role models come to you from today. As her son tells us, a senior women in a Muslim land decided that all the vanity that normally happens in the gatherings of women was not for her. She turned to Salah and praying at night, and in her old age, she found herself calling to her son one night from her prayer room. He son says, "I came in and she was in Sajda saying that she was paralysed!" Her son took her to the doctors and she began a cycle of rehabilitation, but there was little hope. She then commanded her son to take her back home, take her back to her prayer room, take her back to that Sajdah. As she prayed to Allah in her sajdah, the night came when she called to her son. "Astawdi'ukallaah alladhee laa yadee'u wa daa'i'uh - I leave you in the trust of Allah, and whenever something is left in Allah's trust it is never lost." She passed away in her sajdah. Her muscles froze in that position and so they had to wash her body as she was in Sajdah. They prayed Janazah for her as her body was in sajdah. They carried her to the grave yard as her body was in Sajdah. The buried her as she was in Sajdah. And the Prophet said that we shall all be resurrected on what we died on, she shall be resurrected on the day of judgement in Sajdah to Allah - Jalla Jalaaluhu wa taqaddasat asmaa'uhu - because that it how she lived and died.

Wa iyaakum walaalo. I really do learn a great deal from this forum. My Allah reward you all for your efforts and make his deen easy for us. Amiin. Keep up the good work my walaalos

To Allah, we belong and to him we return. I pray that Allah forgives the brotehr and grants him Jannah... In Sha Allah! I would also, extend my warmest condolences to his family, he was a GREAT brother, mentor and really lived for a cause. Someone I had deep admiration and respect for. May Allah grant him jannah. Amiin. I don't know, but some how the death of Muhhamed Ismail really touched me. Only a few days agao, I was having a chat with him, not once realising that it may be the last chat ever. It is amazing how we take this life for granted, forgtetting the very purpose of our days here! In Sha Allah, we should all take this as a reminder of our final destination.. start working for our Aakhira asap... in sha Allah. And, please pray for our brother... He is going through a really hard test right now!!!

Originally posted by Sophist: I will go for the phsicality thing as intelligence is chimera. lol. Why do I get the feeling the your BS'ing with the nomads. Excuse my cockney! I think, Shaqsi summed it up for me. But I have to admit, I am a sucker for good looks and would turn some1 down on the basis of bad looks. I suppose, I can get my mental stimulation else where. Maybe that why they'v invented books and bedside lamps In saying so, I think personaly is what keeps ppl together.

hold on, hold on! I am hearing a cat! Walaahi, I'm hearing a cat :confused: :eek: *scratchs head*

hehehehehehhehehehe! Call me sad or what have you. but I am actually loving the exchange in this thread! Nomads make me laugh Bless Originally posted by Benevolent_Beauty: if ever their existed an ounce of respect for you..homeboy..it just went down da drain... u say i'm vain... by signs of ur ignorance are fallin' like rain... aren't u ashamed... rewardin' dames for falling for ur lame game.. i reward you by inductin' you to the looserz hall of fame.. take a sec to see what is to blame for 2 decades of stravation, struggle, and a country without aim... itz lack of education..... Aqoon La'aan Waa iftiin La'aan.....my brother....n' judgin' from ur recent post....ur one shade lighter than a digsi dabadiisa... loooooooooooooool U go girl don't mind underdog though, he's just a jokah :rolleyes:

Muraad, Your right! War with fellow Somalis is most definately not progressive and Women should know better But, lately it seems like Somali women are as much part of the political frame work as the men. I think thats ultra cool

Ur welcome Sujui Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte: I will not check another Ameenah link unless I get some guarantees. You! Of all ppl :eek: :eek: That is so not nice Lakkad When do you ever have something to do? Besides bullying poor Tweety?

The weird thing about this though is that each account(4 tribes) differs the other one and most of them trace their patriach back to an arab who is both noble and sheik. I say wierd because they don't seem to agree that they (tribes) are related...according the oral history. You know, your right there. It really doesn't make sense :confused: :confused: I was telling my friend that I think the 'sheikhs' whome we take as ancesstors were merely well respected individuals. I really can't buy the idea that Somalis only existed as far back as the sheikhs when we'v actually been in existence during the time of pharoa ... would love to understand sorry if ^^^ doesn't make sense. Am in a rush.

Only such a tribalist whose veins run deeply by the clan bloods can come up the notion of Somali tribes being a scapegoat. I am wondering how you came to such a conclusion? Furthermore, it will continue to exist until people somehow revolutionalize their believes toward Qabiil's real concept. Most definately! That was then and things are different now. The current generation doesn't need its service anymore because of the different lifestyle. Everyone is after his/her personal gains and they shouldn't bother old piece of gossip. So basically, what you are saying Lefty is that Somalis can now do without the qabiil system. I understand that to mean that the conflict in Somalia now isn't about the differences in tribes but a power struggle.. that uses qabiil as a tool .. is that what your saying lefty? If it is, then yoyr more or less in agreement with my saying that qabiil is a scapegoat . Contradictory that :rolleyes: You should also refrain from jumpping to conclusions, there is no need to get personal about this. Another tip

Salaams ya'll. If you haven't already become a fan of 'Salaam' then your missing out. I am really feeling this guy. He is a young Iraqi student who has a kept a journal type of online diary of the whole Iraqi affair. Beats any newsroom journalism. I actually stoped watching news on Iraq about two months ago. So, I don't know what they'r saying at all. This brother has talent. Tell me what ya'll think! Enjoy Where is Raed ? and no, it's not another hoax / prank.... What do ya'll take me for?

Alxamdulilah, our people have fainlly got sick of all the fighting and are now getting down to the real bussiness of gaining peace. May Allah help them. :eek: :eek: a sister in the army. Are we progressive or what? Lately, Somali Women are at the fore front of shaping Somali politics.... thats just wicked Maybe the women should go to the talks whilst the men baby sit :confused: :confused: may be I'll log off b4 I piss the brothers off :cool:

Salaams, gal! Here my take on the situation.. just based on what I've observed so it ain't nothing great.... 1) As a Muslim wat do u think about divorce?? As a muslim, I hold the view that divorce is hated by Allah and that it should be a last resort, depending on the reasons that it is being sought. I also think that the Islamic guidelines ith regards to divorce need to be adhered to bynour community. Such as the man being made to support his children after divorce, and fathers being part of their children's lifes ..etc! 2) As a Somali wat do u think about divorce? Same as above, but I also feel that our people tend to rush into divorce these days, especially the sisters. Maybe, this is due to the break down of the extended family net work, where the families had to be consulted in the event of disagreement between the couple. It could also be due to them feeling more empowred by the fact that they don't have to relay on a man as much as sisters did back at home. 3) Wat are the traditional ways of goin about a divorce? Family discussions. His men and her men talk about why divorce is taking place. I think this can sometimes intimidate sisters (and brothers) into staying in bad relationships as respect for the views of elders is quite paramount in the Somali Culture. There are some issues that the couple may not want to share with immmediate family members. 4) How do u think a child is affected psychologically and emotionally by a break-up in de household? Any change in the child's daily life would have impact on them. Losing a parent has huge emotional impacts on children. They may feel that the parent that leaves doesn't love them or that are responsible for the actual break up even. As Somalis tend to keep these issues on the low, I think a lot of children grow up with emotional confusion that is never addressed because divorce is not openly discussed. Also, the absence of a father figure can have a really profound impact on boys as they lack the male role model figure. As a reccomendation, I would perhaps suggest a muslim - somali friendly confidential realtionship / divorce counselling services for Somalis. Maybe that would reduce the ever increasing divorce rate in our community. Article ^^ has makes some good comments on reasons for divorce amongst Somalis in the diaspora. I don't agree with it entirley but its a good reference Hope that helps sweetness, best of luck

Shaqsi, I agree with you, men that are bothered to cook are great cooks. But thats only 20% of the male population so you can't really compare it to the females. Personaly, when it comes to non-Somali food, my dad is a great cook but he never cooks, xcept to show off his skills and even then with help of an assistant (that does everything but the 'brain work' as he calls it). I think the reason, why men may make better cooks is that they do it for leisure and as a profession not because they are expected cook on a daily basis to keep their loved ones alive as women are expecteded to I know, a lot of women that make the simple bariis n basto daily but when it comes to casuumad time... I feel like I've gone to heaven and back... Somali food is just amazing. God, I'm feeling hungry now

Originally posted by missy_1: less likely she's 2 b approached by somali men who aint 'lazy gold diggas'. whatcha all think? ^^^ Thats properly one of the reasons. I don't mean to hate on sisters but some girls get a little degree and they go on like they are PHD holders. It is all about the attitude, if you go on stush cos U got a little education .. no one will approach ya but the farax's that would approach anything in a skirt :rolleyes: Another one is that some brothers may feel a little threatened by a girl with some brains and the ability to make her own money.. hence, less likely to depend on him ....... and stuff!