Errrm...Pass I no longer entertain dabo dhunkasho / dhirbaaxo

Salaams, (I really do come with wishes of peace) I reckon it’s safe for me to drop my labo gambo. This is an irresistibly good topic I think that in the British context integration of Muslims is different to assimilation. This is due to the strength of the Muslim community of Britain rather then the diplomacy of our government, who seem to be mimicking American antagonism more than ever. I just wanted to share this piece of news with you all. In light of the contents of --> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4033667.stm and this second article; http://www.news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3596047. I agree to the call for integration to a certain degree; We need to look at things from our hosts perspective, many of them don’t understand Muslim and Islam and are bound to fear the unknown; especially in the light of the current terrorist environment. I think we as a community would benefit a great deal from the multi-faith dialogue. People want to know if Islam is a religion of terror, they want to know whether Muslims should be trusted. So, how can we teach of our deen, show them that we are normal peaceful people, of we refuse to speak their languages, go to their schools and have any form of dialogue? The following constitutes a segment in a long article found the in the CRE website. For the full article follow this link: http://www.cre.gov.uk/media/nr_arch/2004/s041116.html The problem is that I know this, and you know it. But against a background of tabloid sensationalism, hostility from the far right and the difficulty of winning attention in the public sphere for any story which does not involve an MP’s private life, these truths are still unheard by many Britons. We know from CRE surveys that the vast majority of people in this country – over 80% - do not have a Muslim acquaintance amongst their circle of friends. So their image of Muslims is what they see on TV and read in the papers. This is unjust, but it is the world we live in. That is why one part of the solution is to repeat the same message time and again in the knowledge that every time we say it, maybe a new set of ears will pick it up. But this is not enough. I am not here to say that the responsibility lies solely with British Muslims. That would be unfair, and also just plain wrong. The movements towards greater integration are the responsibility of all of us.

Buy Nothing Day on a Saturday? You've got to be kidding me. I'm broke, so I guess you can count me in <-- feeling goodalready :cool:

^^^ I see youre having loads of fun at work Nice post, didn't think of it like that CON: Strange men yelling "ALI BABA ALI BABA" or "GO HOME IRAQI B*******" as they drive by in their pickups. SILVER LINING: Barakaat for the trials those fools put me though. *sob* *sob* One of my niqaabi friends used to get this all the time. :rolleyes: She used to just tell them; well this is my country... find another line!

^^Sorry, missed that part. Adoption is the only one that is allowed, but you can't give the child your name so it's more like long-term fostering.

Sperm/embryo banks...surrogate mothers..Invetro fertilization...adoption... And much more ^^^^^Those are 'ify' issues. You might want to get the Islaimc opinion on them. Because from what I know those methods aren't allowed. AS for the topic; I think blaming the woman alone is wrong. I'm not comfortable with the idea of droping your hubby. I think there is more to marriage to children, even if they do play a central role in the marriage. I have no other thoughts / plans on the issue but to make to duca of being subjected to such a trial....Allah forbid. Then again as the saying goes; you can always go into Teaching :rolleyes:

The pleasure is all mine sisters. Rock On...!! Since we're on the topic Do any of you find Somali sisters (not all but a significant majority) stand offish. In the street, at school even in the masjid. I honestly think that Somali girls need to work on this. I went to an Islamic conference today; and all were sweet and loving...except the Cambaros, why are we so unfriendly? I thought, I was the only one; till my sister commented on how the Somali girls don't respond to the Salaam. Do any of the Nomads now what I’m talking about? Raula, *snif, snif* Sweetie, am so touched. Me loves you too

^Well, boohoo! What is your concern exactly. Surely you don't live in the west? Fortunately for you, you're saved from our wrath. Aha! NGONGe, Ayeeyo I'm not as sharp as I once was. Off course; she who is westernised can only make a feminist analysis. Why aren’t I surprised; we have already established that we of the west cannot be Islamic- so I guess we’ll fight our corner through feminism. I shall assert my points'further by stating that Marriage to a Somali (the ultimate misogynist) is like imprisonment. Sisters, should avoid this ordeal by either shunning marriage altogether or finding a Muslim from none-Somali communities. Signed, The Westernised Feminist :rolleyes:

Is it me or are the sisters in the developing countries being regarded as third world commodities in this post? I totally understand and even push for the 'more pious' wife arguement. Howvever, this 'get to the Syria' before the girl's run out is a new concept for me. It's like saying get to Mangos before those pretty skirts run out or catch the sale before ot's over. I suppose also that the girl's in the West are forbiden from being Islamic....

So, please this is not my part to bash Somali ladies but it’s a fact that every living Somali knows these days, that Somali ladies are the main reason our wedding has became “kaafir†type, and they are in my judgement responsible of the out come. And guess what ladies party at wedding is allowed, like the one our parent did back home its no wonder divorce wasn’t prevalent in their times. What is allowed is this… And I suppose the SOMALI Man is kicking and screaming throughout this ordeal? :rolleyes: There is also another biased note in your artice; Somalis women arn't the only ones taken in by the Western concept of weddings. You'll find the same trend amongst African, Asian and Middle Eastern Cultures.

Originally posted by juxa: ps, ameenah can i have my stuff bck pls :eek: , naa wa ku sidee! Why you have to embbrass me in public like that. I'll give it to you markanynu guroga tagno. Xasidad!

Salaams, Charisma excellent topic Jizaak Allah. Good points also by Nur and Rayaana. We're are indeed witnesses over mankind. But are we worthy of the task? What must we do to be? I think this is a subject that requires great attention.... Anyway; Charisma wrote: Another thing that i had noticed with the young generation is that we r really ashmed to be called religeous person (not all but they r many),we would prefer to be known as the cool guy or the cool gal, but religeon that is for old ppl! Why do you think that is? As a teen I had that very view of Islam. I was only exposed to this great deen through a ritua; of do and don'ts... Islam is more than that... ---have to run. We'll add more on Youth and Islam another time in-sha Allah. Did, I say this was a good topic?

Nur, This is a beneficial topic. I've always wondred about not the ill-effects of gossip and the like, much is written on this aspect. I always wonder of how one who is subjected to such deals with the situation. My reaction is ignore and cut-off those who have this tendency. However, I feel that this doesn't really deal with the situaution... what do the nomads think...?

Totti, I'm sorry about your Ayeeyo, I only found out xalay. Samir iyo Iman sweetie. I hope she's in a better state with Allah. Amiin.

Hargaisa, Somaliland

Salaams, I've been exposed to some sweet sisterhood lately. Complete strangers caring for my wellbeing. So I share this with you. Keep the sisterhood alive, where ever you are Rock On Hijabee I saw her on the corner Waiting on the bus While the first drops of rain Dropped from the sky No umbrella Did she have And neither did I I was late for work But I couldn’t just keep walking And not stop by to Wave or at least blink My eyes The ties We share can’t be explained I don’t even know her name But when I look to her I see me Rock on Hijabee Downtown after ten I got caught in a jam Cars crammed And I knew I wouldn’t Make it to my destination As planned Anger ran Through me wild It was my child who saw her Sitting in the car Not far at all Heads nodded Smiles received A cooling sensation descended upon me The ties We share can’t be explained I don’t even know her name But when I look to her I see me Rock on Hijabee Lost in a building Full of careless stares My feelings were rare- Out of place and not at all safe I quicken my pace Hoping to get where I Need to be Instead She caught me And then lead The way Troubles forgotten My day Eased by the Kindness she displayed The ties We share can’t be explained I don’t even know her name But when I look to her I see me Rock on Hijabee By: Veiled Writer

WHAT DO MOST PEOPLE DO ON A DATE? * Dates are for having fun, and people should use them to get to know each other. Even boys have something to say if you listen long enough. * Lynnette, age 8 (Isn't she a treasure) ^^^^^^^Priceless!

Originally posted by Shayma: and only untill recently did I discover Chai-Tea Latte from Starbucks Naa heedhe, Why are you giving your xalaal money to those Zionist pigs? You can buy ready scented tea bags from Arab and Somali shops... lol@ Og-girl. Stop correcting girl! Take these suckers to court. As for me, I'm one of you or atleast I guest of yours. So am excused

^^Yep! That's the man.

Originally posted by raula: Currently..iam sick of seeing "classic greek-style mansions and business premises" on many regions of SOMALIA(including SL/PL). Are you telling me after 14yrs of civil war, an ailing economy/"PENNY-PINCHING" catastrophic environmental and social detriments-that this is the REALITY of the Country :confused: Where are the Shanty homes and "GHOST-TOWN" cities at :rolleyes: Nobody takes pictures of those sites sis, but they do exist. Nobody wants to acknowledge them or be reminded ofthem. No, we are happy to sit back and enjoy pictures of other people’s hard work. Who cares about those poor savages. Our homeland is slowly turning into a class society (both physical and mental). Yet, with our competitive and arrogance.. Nobody cares Aaah, Muqdishu was one of the most glorious cities in Africa. It was called the city of lights by the Arab historian Ibn Butata (spelling?). Thanks to the sweet tales of my relatives, I was always captivated by this city, though I’ve never been… I've always wanted to see Muqdishu, to see if it was really as good as it was described (or if my silly siblings were just being mean 2 moi). and now that it has been turned into a shadow of it's former self, I don't see the point...!! These pictures are sad. may Allah help our people. May Allah guide them.

Inna lilah a inaa calayhi raajicuun! Underdog walaalo, My sincere condolences to you and your family. May Allah grant you sabr and imaan. May Allah forgive her and grant Hooyo the highest level of paradise. Aamin. Insha Allah. Jizaak Allah also, for the reminder…..

^^He was only joking with you sis... Maybe he doesn't know that khaleejis don't joke about marriage. It's cute though... can I be your malxiisad

Nationalist, Dodged your question? :eek: Either you’re mistaking me for someone who gets deep about these things or my response wasn't satisfactory enough for ya. Bottom line walaal, the major concern for our people as far as education goes is to increase the drastically low literacy levels. Perhaps, you should acquaint yourself with the difficulties faced by the educators of our lands .. and tell me if introducing a completely different script would make an already mammoth task, impossible...!! Somethings are beyond simple politics

Please, carry on...

^^don't even think about it Mr. AS crazy as she seems our Shabella will never become part of the Qac household. Haba ku fakarin Jacaylbaro Nooga durug gabadha. Khasiisyahow. Maybe I shouldn't have used the frying-pan.