OG- Salaams hon. Hope your good But I am just wondering cant someone have a sincere debate here without some people being suspicious of his motives and think they are biased for their clan? No girl, treating people as individuals is too much hard work for some. The joke is; Admin is said to be loyal Somaliland one week and Puntland the next. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

LOLs Men! Such adhi thats decieving and cold heartedness. Shes a murderer,she killed MEN! It was suicide huuno, suicide.

It’s all a farce. I’m not interested.

^^No dear! It’s called invasion of privacy. There is a clear complaints procedure in this forum; use it. :rolleyes: Posting the site owners personal details and making baseless assumptions about his loyalties is just wrong. Further more, you have the audacity to use this forum at your convenience, whilst encouraging Nomads to harass its owner. Subxan Allah, that is very, very much below the belt!

Mansha Allah. Great post walahi; Jizaak Allah walaal.

^^It is! The adult version of clueless :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Inaa lilaah

Somalis, eh? Any excuse to get political..

^^lol. What a clown you is In a nutshell, commercial hip hop is weak, so is everything else on the charts! However, I find that the writer is one dimensional in her views. It's not simply an issue about male artist who lack respect for women... it's an industry based on the notion that sex sells... Many women also endorse this crap- take Foxy Brown, Lil Kim, even church girls like DC went ‘slapper-happy’ on us. Which is why remains popular. I guess there are people who enjoy this form of entertainment and as long as there is a market. These artists will continue to deliver. *I needs tea....Baashe

Juxa gabar, Hadaad guursan lahayd with out my boodo and buraanbur; you'de be a dead woman. anyways..cambaro I know this cosey little Ethiopian place in our end of the woods..gimme a bell whenever you fancy eating besbaas

Halaaal Dating is an oxymoron. I've a problem with the term, it's one thing to commit a sin and a whole different matter to try and make it xalaal. Besides most farax's assume that if a girls agrees to go out with them she's down with the 'xabiibi, xayaati, mac, mac mush, mush' sheeko :rolleyes: So, gabdho- next time, don't leave your Weger /knive/ whip at home Originally posted by Bishaaro: You'r so behind. Who needs to be married to have children these days? If or when i decide to have a baby i'm gonna inject myself. I'll grow old with my child. Not Faarax. :rolleyes: ..and deprive the poor child of a normal healthy upbringing. No pun intended sis, but that screams selfish to me. A child needs both parents; even if you can’t stand the ‘Faarax’…you might want to think this through a little more. Gabdho marriage isn't what you think it's. It hurts the relationship and you are more likely to stay together if you don't get married. Why do you think people date 5,7yrs and get divorced within few months? Iska dream gareeya. Everthing that glitters isn't gold. Don't let the soap opera fool you. Its much more complicated then that. That’s truly depressing and not true for all marriages! Tolow maxaa la tusey inanta?

Happy belated birthday and Eid Mubaarek sweet Dawoco. May allah bless you with more wisedom, sweetness and al that khayr Muwaah@ my Juxa.. where have you been my dear..malagu aroosey...and you forgot to invite me...? and Eid Mubaarek to one and all. p.s let me know about the dinner...I hear food..my eyes popped out..

Would it be evil of us if we tried to induce a miscarriage? :eek: @ this stage in the birth process that would mean murder. Our religion forbids such an act. Apologies for my vagueness but the child I was referring was the national child, whom I feel might (with great effort) provide an alternative to the qabiil conflict.

aaah! Sahra Axmed rocks. Laakin heesoheedu calaacal bey u badan yihiin.

I hope this answers your questions...... “I’ve The Full Support Of My People To Stick To Our Freedom†On a lighter note JB; whatever happens; I've a feeling that this too will be a hilarious episode in Somali history. Who needs comedy when you have Somali politics, eh?

When you compare tribalism to sexism or racism, are you implying that people discriminate out of pure hatred and superiority? Do you think this is the real reason why tribalism is rife in Somalia? Is it really just a case of people looking down at everyone else and believing their tribe to be the best? Or is it a case of mistrust, paranoia and unfounded suspicions? I’m simply asserting that race, gender class, tribe etc.. are tenets which create similar psychological dynamics that lead to group conflict. For example; the feminist and black power movements were created as a result of frustration with the oppressive forces who claimed superiority over the respective members of those groups. However, one only needs to look at these groups to see that their counter claims to superiority is no different. Furthermore, the existence of any group is based on shared memory which if members get blinded by group loyalty can result in an emotional bond that creates as you said mistrust, paranoia and a collective drive against the ‘other’. It’s a psychological truth; the existence of groups irrespective of type creates notions of group think, attachment and conflicts of interest with other groups… human nature! Of course there are different levels of conflict. And nothing compares to Somalia’s violent and genocidal intractable conflict. However I think that my brother Maclimuu simplifies the Somali problem by arguing that it can be reduced through the mere elimination of tribes. Which, coincidentally isn’t in Somalia’s’ short term goals. Mother will always be there, mother will always try to dictate things for you; in fact, mother has always fed you and comforted you. But now, now it’s time for one to mature and find one’s own way in the world. Cute logic my dear. But the Somali child is yet to be delivered. We can only look on and pray for the safe delivery of a healthy child. It's cultivation and education shall be dealt with in due time Insha Allah.

Sowie Legend.. Classique and Fiance decided to ignore us both and started their own Alchemist corner in the womens section....so much for team work; eh? Silly naago Might as well drop our labo gambo over there...

Qabyaalad or Qabiil is all the same in the Somali sense of the word and the two go hand in hand. Renouncing one will lead to the elimination of the other. Whilst we're @ it lets eliminate race and gender to rid us of the other friendly isms such as sexism and racism. On the real...Given time and national effort -I think we can one day revolutionise our politics so that it's not so dependent in qabiil... to eradicate the very existence of qabill is another matter entirely. However; so that we don't stall this thread..tell us your ideas Macalimuu... How do you purpose that we the Somalis undertake such a mammoth task of reconstructing our sociological makeup? What is the alternative and whose role is it to lead this revolution? I'm all ears...or eyes rather

^^^What a compliment. Mahadsanid walaalo . Waa runta weli maan akhriyin wax jacaylka macnihiisa bixinaya oo gabaygan ka xikmad badan. Thanks for completing the sheeko.. Originally posted by Wilo: Sheekadu ma heesay isku badashay :confused: Heesuhu / gabyadu waa salka caashaqa..Maaha? Somalis often communicatetheir ideas of love through poetry- it appears to be ceeb in caadiya looga sheekeysto.

Whilst; I agree with Nationalist, Ayoub, Ms Word and Co. on the tribal issue. I think political relations as regards tribes needs to be watered down a little more. The 4.5 formula is an absolute farce as can be seen in the Kenya talks.... .. ya’ll might also want refer back to this old topic which covered the same ground. Some good points... http://www.somaliaonline.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000301

Nice ladies. Nice! As my sister poet Rima said; 'it's pointless searching for a rock, when I know of the rubies amongst men' Ruby= well grounded brother with beautiful islamic mannerism.

Heeeey, heeey heeey! Guess what? Times up! The discussion and reviews of the Alchemist shall now commence... Some one start a new topic please. The Camel Milk Debate section might be an appropriate home for the book review- a suggestion. I’m looking forward to reading your thoughts. I'll have to refresh my memory. I seem to have lost most of my initial thoughts on the book.

Hehehehheehhehe! *remembers the topic which lead to this topic* That A-plus is good, still confusing the nomads Lol@ Lazy - is that why you always write in itelics and different font colours...?

...still wonders what will become of the unMarried eligible brothers..... :confused:

Anigu jacaylka iyo aayihiisa waxaan ka bartey suugaanta Somaliyeed. Weliba heesta la yidhaahdo Jacayl Dhiig Malagu Qorey oo uu qorey Maxamed Ibrahim Hadrawi ayaan erayadeeda aad ugu qashuucay. Sidey sheekadu ii soo gadhey, waxaan maqley inuu Hadrawi heestan u qorey fanaanada Magool markii uu caashaqey nin Sudani ah. Waxa la sheegay inuu ninkani Magool warqad jacayl ah uu dhiigiisa ugu soo qorey. Heesta oo dhan waxaad ka akhrisan kartaa halkan. Waxa aad ii cajabisey midhahan hoose oo uu Abwaanku ku gabagabeeyey hadalkiisa. Haddaan laysu dhamanayn Nafta laysu dhiibayn Ama dhaxal tis qaadiyo Dhismo aqal la taagiyo Ubad iyo dhaqaaliyo Dhaqan reer la kala sugin Dhunkashiyo u jeedadu Tahay dhaayo guudkood Waabay la dhabaqsado Dhereg iyo markaas qudha Ama sida dhurwaayada Hilbo gabadh dheg roonoo Higlo loogu dhuuntoo Dhakhso loogu kala baxo Ninba waxa dhabbacashada Dabinkiisa ugu dhaca Dhidar iyo xabaashii Sharaf lagu dhabcaaliyo Dhawrsooni laga tegey Dhalanteedka beenta ah Bulshadaa u dhaawacan Inta hore waxaan ka heli tusaaleka hadlaya jacaylkadhabta ah. Dabadeedna ka beenta ah ama ka bulshada u xun oo ku salaysan been iyo niyad xumo ayuu Abwaanku inoo sharaxay. Gabayguna midhahan ayaa lagu xidhe... Hab jacayl u dhaqan galo Ma holladay ka ugu dheer Maamuusna ugu dhow Mise weli wax baa dhiman? Bal suaashan yaa jawaab u haya?