Ghanima, It's getting interesting now, eh? Try worldbank.org, they usually publish reports on Somalia. I'm assuming the LSE would also be a good place to go to as well..mise, are you already at LSE? After all that talking, I don't even know where you're taking the course. LOL. All the best.

^*waves* He has the water to pave the way for me. Hehhe. Sleeping? We're having a love-hate relationship at the moment. Dhucdhuc. I liked the idea of the pro-hijaab campaign but the buck stops where he sends a sister away. I just think dacwah needs alot of patience.

@Ngonge!

I wonder if treated nonMuslim women? Dhucdhuc, I'm glad the you've brought up the Jack Straw incident, as I've read your responses I was thinking to myself that if this was an 'infidel' refusing to treat a Muslimah because it offended his sensitivities, we would be spitting venom. Muslims should forbid the evil and enjoin the good but there's also no compulsion [or bribery] in religion. If you can't lower your gaze, find a more suitable profession. :rolleyes: Still, I wouldn’t file a complaint against the brother, he only needed a good telling off, dacas and all.

^I love that poem too, describes faaraxs to a t, sow mahaa? I went to a similar event a few years back where he read this (basho) poem and it rattled a few Faraxs, I tell ya. Mid baa ku qayliyey saying 'ee maantoo dhan bisad baa noo wadaaye ujeedadaada naga gaadh'. I wish could access the words.. p.s I love these types of events, our poets Masha Allah are exceptionally talented and progressive in thought.

^She has a point, nothing elite about Green Street, Mandhow, yaan lagu maqlin. Shayma , Aight, since this is bit of a novelty for you guys waan idinka qaleynayaa. Credit where credit is due, the Emirates effect has surely worked for Arsenal this year :cool:

Dijb.Somali. You are right, if we assume that you enter into a degree as an empty vessel waiting to be filled. Dhudhuc. Media and Arts are used as tools of da’wah and create dialogue. You wouldn’t have Islamic channels and media if some Muslim didn’t go through the motions of studying those subjects.

^Lol. Look at you believing your own propaganda, making the most money last year, does not make you the richest club in England! This is the richest, classiest club in England... Paragon this is mordern qabyaalah, we humans get off on the 'burrtayadaa buuraha ugu dheer mantra'. Harmless fun, really.

^lolAs opposed to what? Somalia was at 148th last place last year and it has dropped off the list all together. I suppose that it has a lot to do with the war in Muqdishu.

LayZie, Lol! No offence taken. I only called it useless because, it makes me feel like a loner. Xiin. You didn’t mention mine but it's a cocktail of what’s referred to as useless disciplines. Still, I’ve a feeling that you’d approve of my BArtsofEducation :cool: despite the lack of career specific training. At the end of the day, it’s personality, drive and being passionate about something will get you far. Also, apart from the transferable skills that I’ve already mentioned, having a degree also has a great influence on your salary scale even if is not relevant to the work that you do and approximately 60% of graduate jobs advertised in the UK do not specify any particular degree subject. Most graduate degree schemes are open to graduates of all disciplines. I was incidentally speaking to someone who did English Lit. for both her BA and MA but has landed a job with the UN in Darfur. Just to go back to what MMA said, okay student debt is a problem but there are ways of avoiding that and whilst in some cases there are other routes to the same job on the most part ethnic minority applicants will need a higher education qualification as backup. Just a look through these findings points to how lack of education is the bedrock of the problems faced by Muslims in Britain and I’m sure the picture is same on a global scale . Finaly, who says that you can’t use your ‘knowledge of the dunya’ in doing acts of worship? Lets not be so one dimensional, akhi. lol@Zulfa. Welcome back.

Ghani, you're such a miskiinad, I'd tell them that I'd study the course of their choice and let them pay for my choice. My degree must be useless. I must be the only Somali that's done it and seem to be the only one on facebook in that concentration.

^ I was just mocking the reportage, I'm generally not a fan of labels. I agree, it is strange to be in a situation where the child is more inclined to practice the faith he was raised with but people forget that parents can make mistakes or lack understanding of their own faith, information about Islam was not always so easily accessible. I think his approach could do with improvement, some youngsters would hear an ayah and start beating people with it. His parents were more concerned for his safety as they are in a racially hostile environment. I'm not defending their actions, I've had friends in a similar dilemma where parents were against certain Islamic practices due to lack of knowledge and fear of reaction from others and I find that a respectable, understanding and tolerant approach from the child works wonders.

Somalis just love to dictate on any and everything, dhag ha u dhigin. It’s not like they are going to be doing the studying and the working on your behalf, so just tell them to bugger off and do a the bloody law, medicine or engineering degree themselves. People study for different reasons and degree courses serve different purposes. I don't think that there's a such thing as a useless degree [i personally draw the at the unislamic] even if you don't follow through with your studies, you would have gained valuable transferable skills that would allow you to get into a graduate job in another field, training or further studies. p.s Welcome to SOL.

^I'll more than happy to help. As for Ghanima, I wasn't calling her anything just offering her something that helps get rid off bothersom bugs. And don't you worry about our frienship, it's beyond intact

^LOL! That's the spirit, if one tactic doesn't work, employ another. Flattery gets you far my friend, ku sii wad... Ghanima, looks like you#re in need of some biif baaf. Just say the word and I'll sort em out for you.

^You and bad smells, eh! I'm starting to make an association here. Haha. lol@thetopic.

Khalaf, The article looks a bit wishy-washy to me too. Mu'minah The parents are thoroughly modern Muslims, ukhti…any objections, Ngonge?

^Do you really believe that Sharma'arke? The trouble with Muslims is that we refuse to look within and Allah does not change the condition of a people until they change what is within them. Whatever AlQaeda is, it's vulnerable Muslims boys that are going around blowing themselves up and killing innocents in the name of Islam. As for the topic, I can't help but to sympathise for the kid.

by Maliha Balala Cute hijabs, matching tight pants, perfectly manicured hands drumming restlessly to the beat of the latest Nasheed pop. Nice rides, sipping caf? lattes, halaqas embraced in the depths of cozy rooms, speaking of distant dreams and privileged existences. Do we know the real struggle? Club ISNA, throngs of fans milling air-conditioned convention halls, pop star speakers glimmer in the spotlight, beckoning distant hearts to spirituality and deeper lives; chastising in that, oh so mesmerizing voice, as the crowd yells a deep bass, takbir followed by shrills of, Allahu Akbar! Do we really comprehend the Greatness of our Creator? Trekking the globe in search of meaning, disenchanted existences within treasure-filled homes, dreams of substance blocked by trivial minds; apathy radiates in different colors; squeezing potential out of our beings like deep soaked sponges inflated by muddy waters; Can meaning seep into a suffocated heart? Following zigzag paths of nothingness; in search of, Deen or the other half of my Deen, whatever comes first. So we step in style, mouthfuls of Subhana'Allah; gleeful, Masha'Allah; echoing from empty hearts frenzied by empty lives. Scratching the surface of submission; echoing lines from distant lives; dreams of greatness shelved away; as we pander our Proud to Be Muslim shirts; cheap prices for cheaper wares. Pardon my jaded writing; perhaps I forgot the subtle depths of this struggle, as I begin to still the meaningless symbols clanging in my heart. Please remind me: Do rays of the Divine ever illuminate these darkened corners ?

True! Islaam is not just for Ramadaan, Islam is a way of life, all the time! Jizaak Allah sis.

Salaams. Read this. When beauty speaks!

^LOL! Leave Khayr alone... That is a profession of morons. I think school bullies grow up to become policemen. :rolleyes: When I went to Holland, my cousin and I were stopped and shouted at by Dutch police who demanded that they see our papers..papers? What papers, I don't have papers! The police in Yorkshire are a special case, they shamelessly target Somalis. My aunt who was coming from qiyaam last Ramadan was stopped and quizzed about where she was coming from going and had her car checked and they were like, 'well your a Muslim driving around in the middle of the night, I hope you understand our concerns'.... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by -Serenity-: Sun = the type that gives ppl strokes. Sea = Hardly available to the female masses. Sharia-compliant = The financial sector isnt, Lifestyle certainly isnt... tax free = no it isnt! child-friendly... perhaps more than london. Yaa, whaat? Who have you been speaking to? I need to start working on that blog. Dubai doesn't hold a candle to London. Well, there are areas where London beats Dubai, namely, human rights, public transport (no it's not a sick joke) and Dubai also lacks the depth and intelligence of the British capital. However, apart from it getting very hot in the summer, which is when the majority of expiates bugger of to 'back home', I still stand by my list of appeals about Dubai. KoolKat LOL. Dee hadaad maqneyd, goormaan wax kuu sheegaa. Come, visit and I'll take you to the dirac shops, I find buying them is more fun than wearing them. I guess what freaks N.Americans about the UK is that unlike those in N.America the Somalis in the UK largely depend of the caydh which translates to a less glam. Lifestyle but that‘s not the case for everyone. I honestly think that if you want to set up in western country and are willing to put in the work and happy to put up with the taxing, London (along with other cities) comes up top.

^ I've moved for the sun, sea and a sharia-compliant, tax free, child friendly life...and technically, I'm still a part time Londoner. Anyway, we're comparing London and T.dot here, not London and Dubai. I'd ask what attracted you to London, but I don't want to have Tagsiile to start throwing some daggers my way.

KK, Lol@ Kool Kat. Lawyer-kaaga maxaad ii af galisay. I'm just saying that there is a logical reason why the world and his sister flock to dirty, old London for work and education. It's where the money is and British education is valued the world over! As for T.dot that fact that most of your graduates run to the States for a job speaks volumes of your economy. Yes, T.dot is pretty and you folks are glamorous, and ....urmm.. that's just about it. It’s tamed,, lacks the depth, intelligence and the character of London. Michael Moor likes ya'll though, that should count for something *Sorry for hijacking the thread Tagsiile..I'm out.