^That's because, you're a special case JB, wax gabadha kaa qabtaa loo bahanyahay. KK, Shaqo La'aan aa ihaysa. LOL Redka. 'Hold it right there mister' :mad:

^LOL! Nakaw! I get the 'your not like a typical reer waqooyi' too. I think some expect us to be angry xayramiin 24/7. Bajaq = chick? It's sounds so much worse.

LOL! you can't write qa*ldan?

Ghanima, Just 'funny', you say? So, you were just making me feel bad maalintii. Gotchya! Haha.

Ngonge, Inanka maad cayda ka daysid? He looks nothing like you, you ugly mug. Originally posted by Ghanima: Can you imagine if some silly S/L women married Tuujeey or Khalaf or Ducanysan, or “Me” upon meeting her father/ mother he said, well my hero Barre…. :rolleyes: LOL! Bare hero worshiping aside, kaasi waaba mid doqon ah, he'd need to be breifed on the art of wooing aabos intaanu odayga hor fadhiisan. Bal maxaa siyaasad u gaynaya? CVfiisga waa inuu xafido, oo marba in sheekada soo dhex galiyo. I could just imagine that Bajaq (Tuujiye) sitting in front of a frowning ******* man, after ten minutes of not knowing what the hell the Bajaq is saying, he'd call his daughter and berate her for bringing home a Surinaami, Somaali iska dhigaya. Waraa, Tuujiye... I don't know what Bajaq means but it sounds very nasty as it rolls of my ******* tongue, so I'm gonna join my girl KK and oo raaxadaan kaaga qaadayaa, Bajaqyahow! Sheekadii syaadna waa ka gudbay!

^ ....minal jinati wal Naas. Night!

^huh? Laa illaaha Ila Allah@ ThePoint. I don't know how the hell I got into a tug-o-war over LA. *gives Xiin an evil look* I really don't care for what or who they join, I thought I made that clear before you started jumping up and down and half quoting me. I was merely saying that those who are on the side of SL are reer LA. Call them what you like and explain away their motivation all you like, tehy are still reer LA, their stance is significant in regards to the what me and Xiin were discussing before he turned it into a fight for LA debate. You might want to take it up with those who care about boarders. Halkaa ku xidh, I don‘t want to be going round and round in circles over this.

ThePoint! All I am saying is that the people who have 'invaded' and are now 'occupying' LA are themselves natives and residents of LA. Whatever their ulterior motivations, they are championing the SL cause. Is that a lie? I can't believe how many times I keep making these same arguments. Maybe, you just need listen. Xiin. Zenobia, perhaps you believe SL is a sovereign republic and you find the clan entity suggestion quite insulting to the state of Somaliland Insulting? No! I quiet like the silent merger between those two clans besides that argument is true for Federal Somalia, also. The division within LA is insignificant , as it emanates from a political discontent/grievance within PL clan groupings, and does not attest to any support for Somaliland’s separatist agenda. Hence the claim some made here that a critical mass sympathetic for Somaliland’s cause exist in LA is a poor spin. Do me a favour adeer, address the ‘claims’ made by the ‘some’ in the context they were made and don’t direct it at me, okay. You know very well that I was trying to make a wholly different point addressing the whole of the SCC. Where did I say that the LA mass were sympathetic for the SL cause, in this and other threads. Where did I support the closing of colonial boarders? All I am saying, is that their division is very significant to this conflict. Read above. The argument of Buuba having his militia and disrupting in his hometown is akin to Xaabsade collecting militia and getting support from Riyaale to disrupt the peace in LA! It’s beyond me why you dismissed it as a laughable proposition yaa Zenobia! Are you mocking me? It’s very obvious, no? I don't want to insult your intelligence by highlighting the differences. Simply put, the LA case is reality. I've only addressed the Buuba hypothesis to clarify a point, you keep missing. Besides, you know it just wouldn't happen.

Serenity, Marka hore, who are the bimbos? The KBDS = Kalinta for Bahdilada Dumarka Somaaliyeed.

My sentiments exactly! Xiin, I wasn't only discussing the LA conflict, but the whole SSC collectively, in that regard I think you and Redka are essentially making the same argument / assumtions. As for LA, if reer LA were united and consistent in their stance against SL, Riyaale would have no reason to make a move as bold as this, if he had absolutely no support in LA, this matter would have been wrapped up as quickly as the Dhahar incident last year and you and I woudn't be having this discussion. This has already been stated by SOLers from LA themselves, why you keep over looking it, is beyond me. I don't say this because I support Riyaale and his allies gun wielding tactics, it's both ruthless and unnecessary, in my opinion. And in that verse, one qabiil entity decided to somehow close the colonial border using disgruntled militias from the community of that city. One qabiil entity? This is as funny as the 'Riyaales' SNM malitia' slogan some run with on this forum. . Buubaa and co can present same argument for the tfg project… LOL. I find your comparison between LA and SL rather laughable, adeer. Anyway, whoever Buuba is, he clearly doesn't have enough influence over groups, clans in SL to form a militia that is willing to fight for the TFG from within. And if he does in the future, I'd readily accept the disunity of SLers in that regard. Understand my point? I hope so.

^Hey is it true the Luul Jeylani was here? Is she still here?

LOL@ DD. Off topic but it feels good on this realm, no? Xalay oo dhan waan is daawanayey, the bags under my eyes have gone Sharmaarke, You are so right, they are missing out BIG time, but and this is a big but - dust is a huge turn off, Eedo. Meelba la islama gaadheen. Serenity, Naa heedhe, xageed igala qaadey? It's not my fault that the KBDS have been sluggish in their recruitment for foot soldiers of late. If you want fireworks, pick on the spineless Faraxs with the plastic bullets, okay? Cara, She’s is crazy, I testify! Kix kix-da manad ka arag?

Redka, LOl. Thanks for the dua, howshaa beri hore ayaan xidhay. Lols. Haneefah, you think you know me so well? Bah! I was just having a little fun with it and you're not that far off. I hope you feel better now.

Gediid, I suspected that this was a tactical move to take the attention away fro his domestic blunders of late. It works for Meles and Yusuf just the same. Why do Somali citizens allow themselves to get sucked into tactical wars time after time, after time? These politicians don't have thei best interests at heart. Redka, Silaanyo ma dhagaysatidh? He makes no secret of his pro-Somali unity stance. He’s not however, a unionist in the traditional sense; he advocates for the taagereyn of Somalia and peace for the Southern region. He doesn’t rule out a union of peaceful and stable Somali states in the distant future. If it’s what the people want (like the Yemeni merger). But, he is still very much devoted to the cause of SL in terms of recognition and independence for now as that is essential to the countries development. Xiin When you say the people of ‘SSC’ are you also taking their pro-SL ’ilma abti’ residents of those regions into account? I guess, duplicity is a Somali wide phenomenon. There’s are very complex reasons for this conflict, one of them being that the clan borders aren’t so clear-cut and so the loyalties overlap both in tribal based and ideological affiliation. Try again, adeer. As for the Ethipian hand in all of this, again I think it's rather overrated. Somalis would need to have been united for the 'divide and conquer' argument to hold. Ethiopia is merely taking advatange of the Somali made enmity and hate.

^Aww! *hugs* *off to bed*

Red Sea LOL. I think, I'll just leave you with your thinking. Thank you for the Masha'Allah! Today, I had lovely family reunion and some drool inducing food. Yummmmm! Alhamdulilah.

^Apologies lazy. You said; afkaaga caanu lagu qabay to the bajaq -Tuujiye and then made your comment about a vague 'they' and 'them' - so I thought you were attacking the same group that he attacked. In any case, I suppose in relation to the anarchy in Somalia today, the Bare days may look desirable. Still, the fact remains, dictatorship of any sort is never a good example of leadership. If Bare was so great, we'd still be a nation. It's really that simple.

^ Serenity and Ghanina LOL! Zenobia, cornered? Ambitious, aren't you? I was trying to end the b*tching, build bridges , inject some sisterhood - and this is how you respond!?. Joke. JOKE! Naa Faaraxinta iska dhiciya intaad idiknu isku jeedaan, lets get back to those percentages.. 90% maxay? 10% what? The backbone of ayo?

Aye, Naden. I was also thinking that Trev. has to come back and explain things. Originally posted by Kool_Kat: I really love how some single women put on this 'I don't care if I ever get married' face...Deep down inside that's what they all want... Cara: Kool_Kat, most married women I know seem to feel threatened by single women. I don't really understand completely but I have some ideas Sisters, my beautiful sisters, my intelligent sisters... Can we dsagree without resorting to this? Please?

Salaams, US nomds, what's the news on campus? What is the Muslim reaction like? Please, fill me in.. Rudy Roughs Up Arabs By MAUREEN DOWD WASHINGTON Now comes “ Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week.” David Horowitz’s conservative Freedom Center has designated next week the time to “break through the barrier of politically correct doublespeak that prevails on American campuses, if you want to help our brave troops, who are fighting the Islamo-Fascists abroad.” The Freedom Center’s terrorism awareness program is urging college students to stage sit-ins outside the offices of women’s studies departments to protest “the silence of feminists over the oppression of women in Islam” and to distribute pamphlets on Islamo-Fascism. Their titles include “The Islamic Mein Kampf,” “Why Israel is the Victim” and “Jimmy Carter’s War Against the Jews.” Even before Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week, the Republican presidential candidates were pitching in yesterday at the Republican Jewish Coalition Victory 2008 Forum here. “I don’t know if you’ve noticed this about the Democratic debates,” Rudy Giuliani said, “but they never use the word ‘Islamic terrorist.’ Ever.” “They have a very hard time getting those words out of their mouth,” he continued, to the delight of his listeners. “I think it’s quite clear to me now, having listened to seven or eight of their debates, that they think it’s politically incorrect to say the words. I don’t know exactly who they think they’re offending. I don’t know what kind of view of the world they have. I understand when I say ‘Islamic terrorism,’ I’m not offending all of Islam. I’m not offending all of the Arab world. I’m offending exactly who I want to offend and making it clear to them that we stand against them.” Source with more links

^LOL! Good call, The Point. When we stop defending brutal dictators and warlords, we will have a level playing field and can start discussing where to go from here. Dabshid, I hope realise how divisive this topic is.

Originally posted by NGONGE: Someone wrote that men like airheads! Could it be that the so-called airhead has no airs and graces? Is it possible that she acts natural and flutters her eyelashes when shy, smiles coyly when interested and plays with her hair (or the pin of her hijab) when complimented? If men are intimidated by educated girls it's possibly because they've come across a few that regard the whole flirtation business as a sign of weakness and would expect to conclude the whole thing as if it's some business deal! If they can't get married it is really not because there is a shortage of men, it's because they really don't want it hard enough. Mr. Faarax needs to drop the cheesey lines , dee. But....

Yeah, Bare did great deal of good for the country, he knew how to deal with Somalis... arrests, murder, curfews and intimidation for anyone who dared speak out against him. And these were in the times of peace, and when the people of the North refused to be treated like second class citizens, he went further. He went so far that when a Somali air force refused to carry out his dirty work of killing and bombing Somalis into submission, he went and got a South African to do the work for him. Amnesty International, Somalia Report 1, December 1988. According to The Guardian newspaper, Somali Air Force pilot has defected to neighbouring Djibouti after refusing to bomb civilian targets in the rebel held Northern city of Hargeisa. Lieutenant-Colonel Ahmed Mohamed Hassan, the defected pilot provides further evidence, in a telephone interview with Omar Alasow, in his residence in Luxemburg that: "At the briefing (before the attack) we were instructed that the military target is the enemy. Direct your attacks against wherever there is a high concentration of Isaaqs. They are all SNM members and supporters (meaning civilian population from the ***** clan). I asked the Brigadier-General if such bombardment was legitimate and constitute a military advantage for the Air Force. "It is the responsibility of the Isaaqs (civilian population) to kick out the SNM from their homes. They accommodate them. Let them face the consequence" he replied, adding that "in times of war we are obliged to obey orders. No question." The original mission of the Somali National Army was to protect the nation from external aggression. I was trained to fight against an enemy force not my own people; my decision was firm to risk dying rather than bombarding civilians and their property." The Guardian, Friday July 15, 1988. Source Try and spin it all you like but the man was an evil piece of work. Secondly, Ms, Lazy Maxaad tidhi? They couldn't contribute? What a joke! What reer SL have achieved during the 16 years without Barre are prove that he and his stooges were stifling our progress.

^LOL. True! Who says you can’t have it all? The Faarax needs to be decent though, mid reerka dhaqi kara, not any old Faarax. And no, he doesn't necessarily have to have a degree [though there are many educated single brothers out there], there are other routes to success, people. T..T.B. Still, we need to do away with this sisters are too educated BS. One can never be too educated and more so our community, which is in dire need of educated sisters. Lets stop stigmatising education and careers for our girls, brothers. This is not the 1920s, in rural Somalia.

Tuujiye, Reer SL baa calanka laguu saarey ma'istidhi? News Flash: Ina Barre was hated and cursed by all Somalis. The Prophet (saw) said to not praise the actions of an individual, till you know how his affair ends. Barre, might have started off on a good footing, but in his eventuality he was disgraced, opposed by all Somalis, then chased out and he died in exile and looked upon with disgust by all Somalis [apart from, tolkisa ] for his dictatorship has lead to the downfall of all Somalis. Haduu adiga qof roon kuu ahaa, dee carry on singing his kacaan songs, that's all you have left of him. Laakin, anaga digashada iyo xagxagashada naga dhaaf, it won't bring him back or change his disgraceful history.