You people (kulligiin) are very, very silly. Waxaad tihiin, dameer (khalaf) iyo labadiisa daan (intiina kale).

Allah yarxamu.

^hello.. So what was said? Why is the concept weak? I think, the fact that Bush was b.sing in Egypt about 'the peace process' the very day hat Israel were killing Gazzans by the dozens,whilst the Arab leaders applauded and nodded along like the good xameer they are, highlights the struggle within Muslims. "What is actually happening is that our enemy is fighting back and they think they can outlast us. They think their determination is better than ours," he said. I agree with this part, dhulkaa la idin la dhici, like all the 'super powers' before you!

I loved cycling in my teens. We had a BMX track in my local park and because I have y own bike, I used to steal my brothers beat up BMX bike, It was black and silver. God, it was 'wicked' going up and down the bumps on that track. Any chance I got, I was on that bike! I'd be sent to the shops to buy salt or something for a cooking pot, but I'd end up going to the furthest shop possible, or going round our block ten times, pissing my mum and sisters off for being too late. I got into a great deal of trouble baryahaas, for being too Wiilo. The last time, I've been on a bike was about 4 years ago, I found one in my mums house one night, so I took it outside riding on our estate.

Loool@ this thread. Allah beerka. Originally posted by -: ^^I'm out NIGGA :cool: Spoil sport, noo wad dee.

^Giving those girls access to education (a universal right) which will enable them to better themselves and get a job so that they are not a burden to society is not akin to 'making it like it's ok to fall pregnant and have an illegitimate baby in your early teens.' You can do everything in your power to prevent this situation from happening, but when faced with a girl that has stupidly gotten herself pregnant, the school still has a responsibility to ensure that they have access to education, a parent still has a responsibility to their daughters. Many of girls, take the abortion route because they are told that by having baby they will lose out on the opportunity to education and their future prospects. There’s clearly an advantage to showing some mercy to these girls.

Child birth takes a lot out of a woman and the first few weeks are a nightmare. Four weeks, to heal (it takes longer for some women) and get your head and life in order is not too much to ask. These schools are just setting these girls up failure if they insist on attendance.

Originally posted by chubacka: Marshallah we loooove da good Dr. May Allah reward her and her daughters immensly for all their hard work. Ameen. Ameen.

I can only think of, Oxford House, Bethnal Green and maybe SOAS for Somali history and language classes.

^Why do you want to know? LOL@ Ngonge, that's an interesting phone. Let us know about the research results. I could offer a double service with that phone, one for the hubby and one for the wives.

^I'm I invited? Lili, Nomad Ladies, gold is a great investment and is more stable than any currency, it's beautiful money, don't knock it.

^LOL. Now, there's an idea!

LOL, don't ya'll get bored of this topic? There's already a 7page thread on the front page of this, 'General' forum.

LOL. You call that a demo? Originally posted by marcassmith: Although, as NGONGE has eloquently mentioned, Somaliland recognition plans are back on track and gaining momentum, one of the reasons that has hindered Somaliland being recognised is the non-existence of a well organised and co-ordinated lobby group. Somaliland Public Affairs Committee (SPAC) hopes to fill this void and attempts to increase communication between the Somaliland government and those somalilanders in the Diaspora. SPAC is an advocacy organisation working hard for the recognition of Somaliland. Its aims are to primarily develop links between the Somaliland Government and those in the Diaspora. In addition to this, SPAC aims to engage and lobby those who wield power in the British Government. Objectives of SPAC: 1. The recognition of Somaliland 2. To assist Somaliland's political development 3. To establish and maintain links with Somalilanders in the Diaspora 4. To engage with and lobby the British Government 5. Policy formulating Think Tank We have an event on the 30th of January at SOAS University from 6pm. Be sure to attend! MARC Cool! Go Marcus, go.

^LMAO.

^Intaa ma odhan kartaa, adoon dumarka yassin?

^Lol. Faduul, indeed. See, how much odayga loo jecelyahay. 'Kiiilo! Wale waan darkhi, kan.' LOOOOL. Allah, ragii maxaa la bahdilay.

It was on last night, too. It's a repeat. The next 5 mins are a classic.

^wait till the end... Sheekaa soo socota..

Sanad wacan oo wanaagsan, Nomads. Originally posted by Willamina: May Allah Almighty bring the new year as a Blessing, Success, Good health, Prosperity and most importantly Good Imaan for us... Amiin Amee, honey.

^I hope you've bullied the brother mans, to raid Darussalaam and the other bookshops in Madinah, for you. Books and CDs are so cheap. You're all welcome.

Reading that has left a bad taste in my mouth.

^Rest assured, Ameen. I don't see you as sexist. Allah commands us to settle our differences by asking the people of knowledge. [Quraan: 21:30] We go to a sharia court to do just that, in the absense of a sharia courte we go to the scholars, pray and tell markaa, how it's perfectly okay to seek a womans opinion on matters pretainning to the Sharia outside the courte and not not inside it? Why is it okay, for a woman to hold judiciary positions at the lower level but make heeso about it at the higher level? Secondly, at the time of the Messenger (saw) there weren't other judges, as you agreed, so the Sheikhs arguemnt was flawed from the onset. Furthermore, the early Muslims went to Sheikhs / Sheikhas to settle thier disputes they have courts as we do today. So Aisha, Umm Salamah, Safia, Hafsa, Umm Habiba and many others gave judiciary advice. In light of this, the scholars Ibn Hazm and At-Tabari stated that women can judge over any case. Abu Hanifa, said that it should be limited to cases dealing with family law. Other’s say, that were there is an ability to give witness (all but one case - where you require 2 female witnesses), they is an ability to judge. Some would argue, that it’s the modern system that is inappropriate to women, the Aisha and co gave their rulings fro the comfort of their homes. This argument, is not valid, we all know that Aisha was ver public when she felt that there was need. Also, Umaar (ra) appointed Shifa as the manager of Madinah Market which was a very public position that required a woman to be out of her home, interact with public (including men), make decisions and genrally manange. This was how the early Muslim trusted the intelllect of women, trusteed their piety and when we considers Umaars very strong ‘ghee rah‘, it is amazing. There are numerous instances also, where despite the Prophet (saw) clear cut stance with regards with the role of women in jihaad, the female sahaabas were very much involved in the Muslim battles as nurses, doctors and fighters. So, I’m left to ask, why are modern scholars, especially the Saudis, so quick to limit the role of women in society and in doing so why do they resort to stupefying us when half the hadiths they throw at us, have a woman at the head of the chain? UmmZakaria , It’s okay sister, if what I'm thinking, it's a no. At this moment in time. Otherwise, PM me. Ghanima , LOL. Aren’t you a sweetie, you would have sent her a eulogy about me, eh? Jacaylka, LOL. I wouldn’t be very good, I’m afraid.

^Were there any judges besides the Prophet (saw)? Didn't he ask or 'burden' a woman to give her opinion on matters of jihad? Didn't the early khalifs and many sahabas seek counsel on law matters, from learned women? Here's what the great men of Al Azhar have said on the matter. An often contentious three-hour debate on the right of women to be judges marked Saturday's meeting of the Islamic Research Council (IRC). Grand Sheikh of Al-Azhar Mohamed Sayed Tantawi, who headed the meeting, had previously ruled that there was nothing in the Quran or Sunna that bans women from becoming judges . However, Tantawi has not given a decisive opinion regarding the issue. Instead, he has limited himself to sending to the Administrative Court the opinions of the various schools of Islamic jurisprudence, thus leaving the Administrative Court to make its own decisions. The Hanafi school of jurisprudence approves women judges in civil, personal status and financial courts but disapproves of them in criminal courts. Most schools of Islamic jurisprudence are totally against women judges. Only Al-Tabari and Ibn Hazm allow women to wear judicial robes. MP Mohamed El-Omda has filed a lawsuit against the minister of justice for appointing 30 female judges. El-Omda is requesting that the government annul the appointment on the grounds it contradicts Islamic Sharia. Religion has never been far behind the controversy over women judges in Egypt. Supporters say Sharia allows women to sit on the bench, while other interpretations of religious texts argue against female judges. The Administrative Court has asked the opinion of the IRC in order to put an end to the controversy once and for all. "Women cannot succeed as judges because the burdens of the task are enormous; working on cases at home and attending hearings that might be anywhere in the country," stated El-Omda. One of the new women judges, Doaa Emadeddin, submitted her resignation when the Ministry of Justice asked her to work in Kafr Al-Sheikh even though she is a Cairo resident. El-Omda criticised supporters of the appointment of women judges as advocates of Western values. "If women want equality, why aren't they applying to go to the army, or looking for work as bus drivers or mailmen?" According to a report conducted by Human Rights Watch (HRW) the present governmental practice denies Egyptian women the right to become criminal judges. Their exclusion, say observers, is not due to legal, religious or constitutional reasons, but because of stereotypical and biased views about women. By excluding women from the criminal courts, Egypt is not only violating internationally protected equality provisions but is palpably violating its obligation to guarantee equal opportunities to all men and women under its own constitution. "It is a fight between those who are convinced that women do not have the right and are not qualified to be judges and the few who are enlightened, convinced that women can be judges. But they are powerless," Abdel-Moeti Bayoumi, a member of the IRC, said. Another IRC member, Abdel-Fattah El-Sheikh, argued that women should not be criminal prosecutors or judges. "The nature of criminal prosecution, which paves the way to criminal court work, is exhausting and does not suit women because they have to investigate crimes such as murder and rape," El-Sheikh said. "No one can imagine women playing this role. When the culture of the people changes, maybe they'll accept it." El-Sheikh said women are emotional and very sentimental by nature, thus hindering them from taking competent decisions. "Women who get tired, anxious, get angry easily, or are sometimes not in the right psychological or biological state of mind, should not hear serious cases like criminal proceedings," added El-Sheikh. Egypt's Grand Mufti Sheikh Ali Gomaa has said the appointment of women to judicial positions does not contradict Islamic precepts. "The job of a judge is merely to know the law well and to implement it fairly. The inclusion of women is a right owed to society as a whole." In addition, women often teach law and run legal faculties even in the conservative Al-Azhar University. "Women practise becoming legal attorneys, consultants and professors," Abdel-Moeti said, adding that their absence from top posts in public courts "is a matter relevant to the evolution of society".

*dream mode on* My vote goes to, Sheikh Sharif Hassan Adan, the ex-parliamentary speaker as President and Sharif Ahmed as PM. Man, they even have the right names. *sigh*