God, I love this place, you disagree with someone, abtirsi, psychoanalyses ayaa lagula galaa. LOL. I dhoon keer, digaarka u sheega! Xiinow , If I was in the business of validating and the invalidation of peoples political opinions, I’d be here on a regular basis force feeding you my magnificent ( ) opinions. I'm not arguing over a matter of whether hebel has a valid opinion and hebel doesn’t. It’s a matter of using one perceptions of the sites principles to ostracise those whom you deem to have an invalid opinion. Anyway, I don’t wish to be trivial or redundant. I believe my point was taken by the concerned members, buriskii waata la joojiyey, my mission accomplished. Sii wata your bolitikal, siyaasad. Baashe, Salaams. I agree, inanku howl culus buu wadaa, laakin runta lagama xishoodo. Ayoub, how u baqan dear. Allah is Kareem and this congregation is blessed.

MMA, I'm in no mood for back and forthing maantoo dhan. Wax igubana dab shidan uun baa jira, so spare me the Freudian analyses, walaal. You had a problem with his contribution to this topic but instead of addressing that (like Malika) you go an and attack his person, his political stance (which is shared by many on this site) and go off on a tangent about the sites principles and politics. I didn't say waadka xigsanaysa, it's simply not your place to be telling people if they should or should not be a member of this website, simply because you oppose their political ideology. Unless, he broke the rules and you are speaking as a moderator. If there is no xigasho or kala sarayn, attack the opinion and not the person. The comments I've qouted from your post defeat the purpose of a platform for Somali discussions which is what SOL is, there's nothing in the user agreement or rules which ask us to conform to certain political ideologies. And finally, you were clearly bothered enough about meeshu sheegtay and goosashada SL for you to have devoted a whole essay to it yesterday… I guess you having a bad day, we all have those sometimes. Laakin, yaan la xad gudbin and in my opinion you did that. And, I apologies for any offence caused. That was not my intention. Wassalaaam.

Mukurka day..

^LOL. Anyway, FGM is 1980s, Weris milked that cow already. She should've stayed with the 'I'm black, educated and with class, you AAs are so ghetto!' theme. Tyra will love it. Waxa ugu daran, the mother in crew. I drink my breast milk ku teh...bisika. Being weird must be a top model criteria. :rolleyes:

Is this an American thing, can't say I've come across any adults who do this in the UK. I asked hooyo for a new name the other day... I've an Arabic name that has been seriously made over by Somalis and I'm constantly being told that is wrong by Arabs and other Muslims. It deson't help that every Arab clerk that I deal with shares my name which forces to have the same boring discussion over and over again. Magacii waaban sanifay.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: Well, it is SOL's -- Soomaaliya Onlayn -- capital, lest you didn't decipher that. If you don't believe Soomaaliya as your own country, I don't know what you are doing here and desperately deluging with propagandic, unverified hearsay articles day in and out, that advocate the dismemberment of the very name this site honourably carries and is named after. That is the most ridiculous thing you’ve ever written MMA. Somalia is a divided country, if JB doesn't consider Muqdishu his capital, that's his opinion and I dare say that he is allowed to express it. That is really beside the point I want to make, there are Somalis of all camps on this website, the are also none Somalis. It's open to all! This website, however it’s named does not advertise itself as a forum for those who share a political ideology. In fact I often viewed this place as being a Pan Somali website. You being the sole Mod of the politics section, is doing SOL a great disservice by telling those who don't share your political ideology that they don't belong here! I’m just glad the owner is a bigger man than you.

I believe that there is a Mr Right for you. It's nice to see that Uniques' writing is reaching a wider audience.

^LOL. That just shows that you too didn't bother reading the article, the author explains the use of name Malcolm X in the fourth paragraph. Anyway, for the love of brother Malik and because I agree with the writers point of view, I'll summaries the article... another time.

Anigu waxaan isleeyahay, in Isseh naag daran heshay, markay ku indho gubtana wuu noo miisaa marka loo jilciyona wuu inaku daraa! Walee, gabadhaa gacan baan u taagay, she's so gangsta she makes FB and Zafir look like the Olsen sisters! Allah macak, yaa inaa deer. Is giiji baan ku idhi!

LOL@ Zafir. You're forever suprising me. Thanks. Urrm. You're right Val. Delightful, markay hurdaan. LOL. Thanks babes.

Malcolm X, who was assassinated in New York on February 21, 1965, was a unique figure in the history of Islam in America, and a leader who has inspired generations of Muslim everywhere, particularly those living in non-Muslim countries. Fahad Ansari considers his legacy. The Prophet Muhammad (saws) said in an authentic hadith that the best jihad is to speak a word of truth before an unjust ruler. When one considers the prevailing political climate in many parts of the Muslim world, where the slightest suspicion of dissent can lead to imprisonment, torture and execution, the reasoning behind this statement becomes self-apparent. To speak a word of truth in such circumstances requires the utmost courage and conviction and the most powerful iman. For Muslims living in Britain, it is relatively easy to participate in this jihad. The consequences here are not yet as grave, although this pattern is steadily changing as Western democracies take on the characteristics of the despotic regimes they pretend to deplore. Yet, even without the fear of torture or death (or both), Muslims in the West remain terrified to speak out against the numerous injustices being committed against our ummah. However what is more distressing is that those that do decide to make a stand make it on such shaky grounds that it almost worsens our plight. Refusing to condemn evil as evil, with the best of intentions these brothers and sisters ultimately compromise the rights of Muslims in the West. They believe that they are using hikma (wisdom) in their approach, and often condemn the more direct approach taken by other Muslims as “extremist”, “confrontational” or “misguided”. They believe that it is wisdom to compromise about truth, and to negotiate with those who oppress us. They are of the opinion that to be weak is to be wise. Consequently, we have seen Muslim leader after Muslim leader use ‘hikma’ in their consultations and meetings on our behalf with governmental bodies and institutions in this country. For decades, British Muslims have been exercising this ‘hikma’ while our rights continue to be trampled by those very same institutions. Why has the word hikma today become synonymous with submission and surrender? Why is it wiser to show weakness and compromise rather than to portray strength and wield influence? Nobody in this world can have any doubt that one of the greatest and most influential Muslim leaders of the twentieth century was Al-Hajj Malik el-Shabbaz or (as he was more popularly known) Malcolm X, the celebrated American Black civil-rights activist. Furthermore, nobody can doubt that Brother Malcolm possessed incredible hikma. But Brother Malcolm was not one of these Muslim leaders who adopted the ‘hikma’ of compromises and concessions. No, when it came to human rights and human wrongs, Brother Malcolm’s hikma was of a different type. He never minced his words nor compromised his beliefs. Where justice was at stake, he refused even to consider the possibility of compromise. This attitude achieved much more for the Black community in America in the sixties than the feeble approach of contemporary Muslim leaders has achieved for Muslims anywhere in the West today. In an age when Muslims in the West find themselves as a minority, and while numerous theories of integration and assimilation are being discussed and debated in masaajid and conference centres around the country, it is time for us to examine the life of Malcolm X and adopt his attitudes and beliefs as a template for our own attitudes and behaviour. It is primarily because of our own pathetic and pitiable mindset and our correspondingly weak behaviour that Muslims in the West are becoming lambs ready for slaughter. Apologetic and weak, we have become defenceless and ineffective in our struggle to be treated as equals. Our human rights and civil liberties continue to be ignored and violated. In this month is the 43rd anniversary of the assassination of Malcolm X; it is high time for us to study his life, and his death, and understand what it was that he did that brought a semblance of respect to the Blacks in America. Many parallels can be drawn between the lives of Muslims in the West today and those of the Blacks in America in the past. Both peoples constitute minorities that are oppressed and deprived of many civil liberties readily available to the majority. Both communities have been demonised and slandered by the majority as uneducated, anti-democratic and irrationally violent extremists. And, just as many members of the Black community lost their traditional names, religion and language in the process of ‘integration’, so today we see many Muhammads being called ‘Mo’ and encouraged to abandon their people’s religious, cultural and linguistic values in the name of integration. Just as Blacks in America regarded their colour as a prison holding them back from progress and success, so many Muslims today look upon their deen as an obstacle to advancement. Objective: Recognition as human beings “We have to keep in mind at all times that we are not fighting for integration, nor are we fighting for separation. We are fighting for recognition … for the right to live as free humans in this society.” The first thing to recognise is that Malcolm X never fought for either segregation or integration. He believed that the use of these words actually clouded the real picture. Similarly today, Muslims must rise out of the complex jargon of sociology and realise the root of the problem. We must stand up and demand our basic right to be recognised and respected as equal human beings, with all that entails. Not to do so is to attempt to find a solution to our problems on other people’s terms. Methodology: direct action "Early in life, I had learned that if you want something, you had better make some noise.” Malcolm was not the type of person to sit quietly and humbly accept his fate. He was not one to sit back and wait patiently for the oppressor to hand him his rights. He knew that freedom and human rights were values which had to be fought for. This meant upsetting the status quo, causing commotion and disturbance. For his struggle, he was often labelled as “the angriest Black man in America”. But it was this “anger” that brought about reform. As Malcolm put it, “Usually when people are sad, they don’t do anything. They just cry over their condition. But when they get angry, they bring about a change.” Like Muslim activists today, Malcolm was also called an “extremist”. His reply was characteristic of his bluntly honest attitude: “Yes, I’m an extremist. The black race here in North America is in extremely bad condition. You show me a black man who isn’t an extremist and I’ll show you one who needs psychiatric attention!” By not hiding from their label, and by demonstrating the justification for this extremism as a natural reaction to the oppression of the Black community, Malcolm turned the tables on his enemies and deprived them of their ammunition. He refused to be sidelined and isolated by such labels. Contrast this with contemporary Muslim leaders, who fall over themselves to avoid being identified as “extremist”. The word “extremist” has become a gun at our heads; we will do anything to avoid the trigger being pulled. Muslims in Britain today unfortunately now regularly label one another “extremist” in order to give themselves an air of moderateness. No compromise “If I’m following a general, and he’s leading me into a battle, and the enemy tends to give him rewards, or awards, I get suspicious of him. Especially if he gets a peace award before the war is over.” Malcolm also taught us to be wary of any form of compromising engagement with the oppressors. Where justice and freedom were at stake, the ideas of compromise and conciliation would never even enter Malcolm’s mind. The importance he placed on these values could be seen by his willingness to do anything to obtain them. Nothing was too radical or too extreme in order to secure one’s freedom. “When a person places a proper value on freedom, there is nothing under the sun that he will not do to acquire that freedom. Whenever you hear a man saying that he wants freedom, but in the next breath he is going to tell you what he won’t do to get it, or what he doesn’t believe in doing in order to get it, he doesn’t believe in freedom.” Politics “I say, you’ve been misled; you’ve been had; you’ve been took …” Malcolm was fervently dedicated to educating the Black community about politics and the political system. He believed that it was crucial for the Black community to understand what politics was supposed to produce and what part it played in their lives. He reasoned that unless and until the Black community became politically mature, Blacks would always be misled or deceived into supporting someone politically who didn’t have the interests of the community at heart. He was very critical of Black leaders who continued to follow parties which had repeatedly let down the Black community. His comment that “anytime you throw your weight behind a political party that controls two thirds of the government and that party can’t keep the promises that it made to you during election time, and you are dumb enough to walk around continuing to identify yourself with that party, you’re not only a chump but you’re a traitor to your race” is one which most Muslim leaders in Britain today would do well to ponder deeply. Nevertheless, Malcolm did not discourage voting, as long as it was strategic, with an achievable meaningful purpose. “A ballot is like a bullet. You don’t throw your ballots until you see a target, and if that target is not in reach, keep your ballot in your pocket.” In recent elections in Britain, the rights of Muslims in Britain have suddenly become a central concern for political parties across the spectrum. The very people who conspired to deprive us of our rights and increase our oppression were suddenly seen to be fighting one another to return those rights to us and recognise us as full “British citizens”. In the last general election, the government again promised to outlaw discrimination against Muslims and Muslim leaders began rallying the masses to thank them for this, in the form of our support. But as Malcolm said, “How can you thank a man for giving you what’s already yours? How then can you thank him for giving you only part of what is yours?” Although it may speak the language of equality regardless of religion, the British government has hypocritically created a two-tier system of justice: one for white British citizens and one for others, especially Muslims, both foreign and British nationals. There are no non-Muslims being held in detention without charge in maximum security prisons. There are no non-Muslims being deprived of their basic liberties under control-order regimes. There are no non-Muslims facing extradition without evidence to countries with brutal track-records of torture and abuses of human rights. It is Muslims who have become the primary victims of police harassment, anti-terror raids and wholesale institutional Islamophobia. And this all has occurred during the reign of the liberal politicians. Martyrdom “It is a time for martyrs now, and if I am to be one, it will be for the cause of brotherhood. That’s the only thing that can save this country.” Because of his bold and courageous stances and statements, Malcolm created many enemies for himself, both in government and within the Black community. History has shown us that people of justice are often demonised during their lives, and it is only death that brings their message to the hearts of the masses. Malcolm knew this and was ready for it. His whole struggle had prepared him for it. He knew the value of freedom and the price of freedom. “If you’re not ready to die for it, put the word ‘freedom’ out of your vocabulary.” Malcolm’s assassination itself is a great lesson for the entire Muslim community in the West. Too many Muslims sit idly by while injustices are being committed against us. Very often, these armchair-mujahids claim that they are waiting for the opportunity to go fight jihad against oppressors on battlefields around the world and become martyrs for Allah. The vast majority of them never go anywhere and die ordinary deaths; their whole lives are wasted in waiting. The assassination of Malcolm X is a sign that the best jihad can be conducted right here in the West with our minds and our actions; if it pleases Allah, He will bless us, as he did Malcolm, with martyrdom. But this takes courage and sacrifice, which are principles and qualities we have forgotten the importance (nay, the necessity) of. Throughout his life following his imprisonment, Malcolm publicly exposed the false leaders of the Black American community, and in the process demonstrated the real traits and qualifications of leadership – honesty, intelligence, a respect for logic, uncompromising morality, brotherhood, self-sacrifice and total submission to Allah and Islam. Source May Allah have mercy on his soul. Ameen.

Originally posted by NGONGE: Contrary to what JB says, the Israelis do not control everything but they do have very strong political lobbyists. They are also organised, unapologetic, support each other regardless of differences, they put money in everything, they have men in every field and important organisation. I envy them ans I want to throw stones at them. :mad:

I personally prefer using services by Somalis, they usually go out of their for you. That, doesn't mean we should abuse them. I used to work with Somaalis and ended up leaving my job because islaamu just started taking the liberties with me. My Midwive was my sister and I was initially like you about receiving care from her, I used to say, 'I'm going travel abroad to have my baby, just to avoid you'. LOOL.

^Thanks for the link. I'm still not convinced by the Sheikhs ijtihaad but I won't picker. Thanks darlings@ Nephy and KK.

LOL. Gediid... saas miyaa? I'm going to research it, bal i yara sug!

Hello, Faarax Brown, habari gani?

^I always new you were of the xamari crowd, you guys give off this vibe... and your made crazy about SL. My theory is that the lot of you were bullied in your Xamar days. I kid!

Ismahaan, Who is 'the shaikh'? I accept that there are differences of opinion. I personally, agree with following fatwa because I believe that there is no difference between body parts. If piercing one part of the body is considered mutilation and altering Allahs' creation, it should apply to all body parts. I'm more willing to accept the argument that your not allowed to imitate non-Muslims and the peircing of specific parts of the body might be attributed to punk culture. Also, I think we all know about maintaining the limits of hijab and not being too excessive. And, Allah knows best. The following is from the book: Islamic Fatwa for Women by Shaikh Bin Baz. It's a really useful resource. Question: What is the ruling concerning wearing nose rings for beautification? Response: It is permissible for a woman to beautify herself according to what is customary, even if that means she has to pierce part of her body, such as is the case with earrings. Perhaps, nose rings are permissible since it is allowed to pierce a camel's nose and put a ridle through it and that is not considered mutilation. Source p.s The fatwa had me in giggles the first time I've read it, bless!

Actually, that was quiet sweet NGONGE. It sounded alot like that Ehab song to me... NEway.. why are still looking, don't you like my choice?

I wasn't telling you to get your nose pierced, just responding to the comments you made on the topic. You're obviously not down with it, so don't do it. I'm not sure that the purpose of jewellery is to make you prettier. It certainly doesn’t work. i.e If you have a crooked nose for instance, the last thing you wanna do is draw attention to it by sticking a nose stud on it.

^Stop exploiting him, nayaa. :mad: Ngonge, As your ayeeyo, inantan ayaan kuugu duceeyey. She's very worthy of a darling such as you. Faateha! Enjoy, the game.

I've first read about her on PACE Magazine. She's amazing, Masha Allah. There are a few others like her, Dr Hawa also comes to mind. May Allah reward them for their efforts.

Thanks, honey!

^You're a sweetheart. Illahay aabe ha idiin daayo. I'm bothered that it's persented as a religious obligation. Africano, Iga raali noqo for conjering up bad memories. I've a habaryaro and cousin who were abandoned and left to mend for theselves, I feel your pain walaalo. May Allah reward you for it.

^LOL. Nephtys, Waxay cayaanba waa loo amaana. Aaliyah, I had my nose peirced and I got bored with it after a while and it only left a little brown mark, which is okay because I've freckles on my nose. [Yeah, I'm a black woman with freckles]. Also, it's not xaraam, I've looked it up. I wouldn't do anything that went against sharia. Ghanima, You have to show me! I think I'll do mine, if I manage to keep my waist after two babehs.