Total laissez-faire capitalism conflicts with the interests of individuals in the real world. People can’t be expected to apply and follow ideas to the letter. In a world where everyone was honest and just, maybe you could have a totally free market place. But I can’t imagine that happening in the real world. People will peruse their interests and it maybe in the interest of some individuals to be dishonest and unjust. It is in the interest of people to be defended against dishonesty and injustice. To defend against dishonesty and injustice, states must make regulations on markets, and once regulations are introduced, the totally free market no longer exists. it may be in people’s interest to have public owned industries for practical reasons. Such as a company to provide water and sanitation facilities to customers that are unprofitable. “In sharpest contrast to the present system of massive government intervention, under laissez-faire capitalism the activities of the state are confined to the protection of the individual against acts of aggression, such as, for example, murder, robbery, rape, and fraud, and attack by foreign aggressor governments. The state does not go beyond this strictly limited function. It does not intrude in people's economic activities†The state has to intrude to perform the functions that states are instituted to perform. There are reasons people create governments and sometimes in order to perform the duties of government, the state must interfere in peoples economic activities. I think the issue shouldn’t be if the government should interfere in or not, but how much interference is needed for the maintenance of justice. Two important reasons among the reasons that governments are instituted by people are 1. The maintenance of Justice and 2. To provide for the publics welfare. I don’t see how a state can meet these requirements without interfering in the market to an extent.

Great topic. I haven't found a book I feel that way about yet. I have this illogical pride (or something else?) that leads me to question any book (or person) seeking to enlighten, teach, guide, or show me the reality of my circumstance and of things philosophical. So I could never accept an ISM unless I understand it fully. I will just have to come up with my own. Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar and Khayr, have you found such a book?

, oh i gotta forward this. Originally posted by underdog: - Paris Hilton, too long out of the spotlight, will hit the talk show circuit to protest the dissemination of her latest private sex tape and beg people not to download it. Her publicist will call distribution of the tape (which will feature Paris, her boyfriend, a Lithuanian circus troupe, and a bisexual pony) “an outrageous and unfair violation of a private moment, directed by Jonathan Demme and available now.†Third Quarter - Victory in Iraq! After a massive counterinsurgency assault, the US will declare Total Victory in Iraq. Troop withdrawals will commence just as US congressmen head home to campaign for the midterm elections. Iraq’s proud new democratic government will thank the US and promise eternal friendship from an undisclosed location.

I must be doing something wrong. Other Somali people are planning fun trips to Japan and am sitting here in my second day job worried I will not make it to Dahabshiil to send the biil.

Good job Ahura! You’re right, only muggers and rapists ask question like that to strange women! No reasonable and law-abiding man would approach a strange woman in a secluded area! Asking for the time is a well-known technique that muggers and rapists use. The objective is to get the victim to put her guard down, while she looks at the watch or cell phone and her hands and eyes are busy, they make their move! Keep that finely tuned internal danger-sensing system in place! It might have saved you from getting mugged today or worst!

Originally posted by Kashanre: Teeda kale, kun jeer baa la yidhi jalbaab is a form of hijaab, and although it is not the only form countless scholars have agreed acknowledged that it is the closest to the ones worn during the Ashaab days. Maxaad u kala saari marka? Meesha waxa loo dulqaadan waaye waxay ahayd, yasida, cayda, iyo aflagaada maxaa keenay oo lagu caynayo wax diinteena ku dhisan? Haday ku imaado doorsho, anagoona meela kale aadin, yaan cidahayagu eegnay oo daliil ka dhiganay inay qasabaad ahayne dooroshaad tahay. Quruxdeeda maxaa kaaga jido? Haday nafsadaadu diidayso, maad u daaysid kuwa nafsadooda u ogolaatay? Hadaadse gabadh ahayn oo nin rag tahay, waaba wax la yaab ah o cajaa'ib ah inaad afka la aadid wax ku qusayn. Inaad la caytamid oo aflagadeesid walaalahayn oo asturane door Alle u dortay waa wax aan u dul qaadanayn oo kaa difaaceeno. Arin la yaab ahaa meesha ka dhacday, though it is something I place under the context "internet phenomenon". Waa tahay. Wallahi with regards to the parts of your statement that I quoted, you hit the nail on the head! we shouldn’t say negative things about and insult those people that choose to wear a certain type of Xijaab. Why call it a tent, or say it’s ugly? Why belittle it? There is no reason to do so, and doing so will only create a quarrel. Whatever the reason for the predominance of this type of xijaab in Somali after the civil war, there are people who believe that by wearing this type of xijaab people are following the way of the Sunnah. Calling them names and saying they are ugly and unfashionable will only cause fighting. If you have a better style of xijaab, then do what it takes to get people to accept it. And lets not mix up issues. The issue of women being forced to wear a xijaab is one thing. Would it make a difference if the women that are or feel that they are being forced to wear a certain style of xijaab were being forced or felt they were being forced to wear another style of xijaab? If you are advocating for women to have a choice in the style of xijaab they wear, but you accept that women should wear xijaab; then there is no need to insult or belittle any style that is not to your liking. When you do that, your asking for a fight with those that like the style you don’t like, and people might think you are against xajaab altogether. If you feel that women shouldn’t have to wear any xijaab; then it really doesn’t make any difference what the style is because it’s xijaab you disagree with.

I'm for choice but there is no choice in Sharia law. You know that, right? Everyone must don the Hijab whether they agree or not. Is that true? There is no choice under Sharia law to wear the hijab for a women? That she has to wear it even if she doesn’t agree to that? I understand that it's commandment in a religious sense (like Salah) , but what is its place in civil law ? This is a serious question and I would appreciate serious answers only. And please, no SOL'er opinions, just fact that can be support with proof from a Islamic source since this is an Islamic issue. Thanks.

Originally posted by Daanyeer: ^^ She's not very attractive? Atheer, don't be so soft, the girl looks like a hyena. Hyena... well, maybe. i was gonna say daanyeer .

I can't believe these so called somali leaders are trying to make trouble between Somalia and Eritrea. Eritrea people are the kindest people I have met and they have a true love and friendship for Somalia. They would be the first to help somalia and somalia should be the first to help them! Why do these people want to cause a bad feeling between us?

Originally posted by Khayr: If you saw someone who wanted 10kids or who wanted 10kids, would you raise the issue of economics with them i.e. How can you AFFORD to maintain such a large family? Fi Amanillah [/QB] No I wouldn't. If they want 10 kids let them try to have 10 kids, there is no grantee they will get even 1. But if they already have 10 kids, well, then it's on them to provide for those 10, if they can't, someone else will. Somehow everyone will get what he or she need or they will do without or if it's required for living, they will die. That’s just the nature of things. No one knows how he or she will provide for himself or herself tomorrow. It’s foolish to think we have any control over our provisions.

Humanitarian EMERGENCY There is a major famine in East Africa. It is affecting Somalia, Kenyan, Ethiopia, and Djibouti. Failed rains and two seasons of below normal rains caused this. This will affect millions of people and animals and may result in the death of many thousands of people. The worst part of this famine is expected to be fall from January to March. Please do everything you can to help! May Allah help us all. For more Info: Famine Early Warning System Network http://www.fews.net/

Originally posted by Daanyeer: And why on earth did he raise this non-issue? I've never heard someone talk about this before you. So why are you raisnig this non-issue?

Fathia, you make a good point but maybe in those counties Finland, Iceland and Greenland the word 'land' has meaning in their language. Suldaaanka thank you for pointing out that Somalia is actually Italian, I didn't realize that. This just adds to my bewilderment. No fuzz, I am taken a back at how gaalo-centric we are even at the highest levels of intellectual and political leadership that we would use foreign languages to name our states and even ourselves. I shouldn't be talking since I'm barely able to string two somali words together.

Fathia, you make a good point but maybe in those counties Finland, Iceland and Greenland the word 'land' has meaning in their language. Suldaaanka thank you for pointing out that Somalia is actually Italian, I didn't realize that. This just adds to my bewilderment. No fuzz, I am taken a back at how gaalo-centric we are even at the highest levels of intellectual and political leadership that we would use foreign languages to name our states and even ourselves. I shouldn't be talking since I'm barely able to string two somali words together.

Bishaaro, maybe your shower just isn't big enough. Sounds like they have 'healthy' and creative love live.

Originally posted by ATLAS: The long and short of it economically deprived people having abortion guaranteed less ill provided for young offenders. What other argument is there? Yeah, if poor people have abortions that results in a decrees in children in poor families, which will also result in a decrees in the number of criminals that happen to be poor (since it's safe to assume that in any sufficient sample of people, there is a percentage that will break the law). But this has nothing to do with your claim ATLAS. You said, "Abortion is a question of who can afford to raise up a child to be a responsible member of society" and have provided no facts to support your statement. Can you prove to me that most of the people who have abortions do it because they are poor? Show me numbers that say that most people getting abortions are doing it because they can't support children. It sounds to me like your advocating abortion as a crime reduction tactic aimed at criminals from poor families. ATLAS, if your goal is to get rid of those you classify as 'undesirables', why don't you just advocate for putting drugs in their tap water to make their women unfertile (as they do to black people in America)?

What if instead of bring people together, the Internet actually increases the divisions between us? And interesting article HERE talks about that. Because the Internet allows like-minded people to contact and communicate, it could cause them to become more like each other and less like other people. So for example, a Somali guy that lives in an area where there aren't any Somali people can contact Somali people on the Internet, join a Somali forum, chatroom and actually become more Somali though those interactions and less like the people in the area where he's living. The author notes With the customized access and search capabilities of IT, individuals can focus their attention on career interests, music and entertainment that already match their defined profiles, and they can arrange to read only news and analysis that align with their preferences. Individuals empowered to screen out material that does not conform to their existing preferences may form virtual cliques, insulate themselves from opposing points of view, and reinforce their biases. Authors of collaborative filtering technology have long recognized its ability to both foster tribalism as well as a global village. Indulging these preferences can have the perverse effect of intensifying and hardening pre-existing biases. Thus people who oppose free trade are likely, after talking to one another, to oppose it more fiercely; people who fear gun control appear, after discussion, more likely to take action; and juries that want to send a message seem, after deliberation, to set higher damage awards. The reasons include information cascades and oversampled arguments. In one, an accumulating, and unchallenged, body of evidence leads members to adopt group views in lieu of their own. In the other, members of a limited argument pool are unwilling or unable to construct persuasive counterarguments that would lead to more balanced views. The effect is not merely a tendency for members to conform to the group average but a radicalization in which this average moves toward extremes. Increasing the number of information sources available may worsen this effect, as may increasing the attention paid to these information sources ... Internet users can seek out interactions with like-minded individuals who have similar values and thus become less likely to trust important decisions to people whose values differ from their own. This voluntary balkanization and the loss of shared experiences and values may be harmful to the structure of democratic societies as well as decentralized organizations. But why would it be 'harmful' to democratic society? who said homogeny is such a good thing? How would creating more diversity result in the loss of decentralized organizations? I would think it would create greater decentralization.

Please disregard all that stuff I said before; I was just saying that stuff to throw off the skino-fascists and fool them into thinking I was on their side. The truth is I have a strong, uncontrollable attraction to "full figured" woman. I don't understand why everyone in America is attracted to anorexic, bulimic bone sacks that look like they would make a great extra in 'night of the living dead'. I love women with BMI’s over 30. So, to all the full figured Somali women out there; know this HANIIF LOVES YOU .

Fathia, hi I thought it was stand that a somali country would have an english name and I wanted to know why they have named their republic in english. I mean, like in Somaliland, do the somali people that don't speak English call the state they live under Somaliland? If so, don't they ever wonder what "land" means?

Fathia, hi I thought it was stand that a somali country would have an english name and I wanted to know why they have named their republic in english. I mean, like in Somaliland, do the somali people that don't speak English call the state they live under Somaliland? If so, don't they ever wonder what "land" means?

Forget about missing it, I didn't even know it was boxing day! I've found that being in the US is a great way to miss boxing day.

Fathia, if you can't read/write somali well, what are you doing in the Dood wadaag section? The whole point of this section is so that our ESL brothers and sisters can also feel at home here on SOL. Lets show them some respect by keeping this section Somali only!

uchi is right. this type of thing happens. Couple of years back I read about a husband and wife that ran into each other on 'casual encounters' network.

I've never met a Turk. If that is the road they have chosen, it's their loss. I pray to God that the Somali nation never abandons Islam.

"The truth is, I got to see a side of my mom I'd never seen before. " OK, that's just sick! But the whole this is really kind of sad. watch 'you've got mail' and think the love of their life is to be found online.