A Canadian TV host from Quebec rocks the Burka.... Source: Huffingtonpost

Never having witnessed fascism taking hold, I wouldn’t claim to know it to see it. But whenever commentators have likened the Parti Québécois’ proposed “secularism charter” to the early drumbeats of some historically dire intolerance, my first instinct has been to scoff. It’s certainly ****** and unfair to threaten public servants with unemployment if they don’t forsake certain religious customs, all to solve a problem that no one except the pollsters seems able to quantify. It’s certainly disturbing that any political party would stoop so low in search of support, and all the more so that the PQ seems to be finding it down there. But whatever the polls say, Montreal seems more cosmopolitan every time I visit. Despite reports of an uptick in anti-Muslim confrontations, surely it’s a fantastically unlikely breeding ground for any sort of widespread, street-level discrimination. Related Dan Delmar: Upcoming Quebec election will be a referendum on tolerance Anne-France Goldwater: Quebec’s Charter is a frontal attack on equality for women Surely. But events recently took a shivery turn: A week ago, a woman spotted two daycare workers, dressed in niqabs, marshalling their young charges through the streets of Verdun, in southwest Montreal. And as one does nowadays, she snapped a photo and posted it to Facebook. Thousands of people saw it. And not all of the commentary was polite. “These children must have nightmares after seeing ghosts all day,” read one comment. “Let’s burn these women and rape them like pigs,” another suggested. “Two bullets,” wrote another. “It’s hunting season.” Talk radio host Benoît Dutrizac took to Twitter, and the airwaves, to condemn the two educatrices. When one parent defended the daycare — “The teachers are great, the service outstanding,” she tweeted — Mr. Dutrizac rounded on her. “How can you endorse the concept of having to hide a woman in public?” he tweeted her. “You should be ashamed.” In Le Journal de Montréal, columnist Richard Martineau took the opportunity argue Quebec shouldn’t be letting daycare workers wear hijabs, either. Both are “insults” to society, he alleged. The president of the Quebec association of private daycares — yes, this fracas is over a private, unsubsidized daycare — deplored the two women’s garment choice. “They must have their faces uncovered,” said Louise Chabot, president of the Centrale syndicale du Québec, the union representing Quebec’s daycare workers. “This is a must, especially with children.” Either she didn’t know that the two women uncover their faces indoors, or she didn’t care. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jacques BoissinotQuebec Family Minister Nicole Leger said the daycare was inspected to see if it was operating with six children or fewer. No one has alleged that the women or the daycare broke any rules. Nevertheless on Thursday we learned that inspectors had paid them a visit — not because of the media frenzy, families minister Nicole Léger avowed, but “relating to whether or not they are operating legally — if they have [the required] six children or fewer.” What interesting timing. The proprietor of the daycare and the multicultural assortment of parents who patronize it are sticking up for these two women, as are some wise voices in the punditocracy, both anglophone and francophone. Nevertheless, having broken no regulation or law, two productive members of society suddenly find themselves as this week’s living embodiment of Quebecers’ outsized cultural angst, the subject of public opprobrium and threats. I wouldn’t blame them if they were losing sleep. And what did Quebec’s politicians say about this? “This is shocking, this is troubling, this is not acceptable,” democratic institutions minister Bernard Drainville said on Wednesday. He meant the women’s clothes, not the death threats and vitriol. “This is why we need to pass our [secularism] Charter. Because our Charter will ban this type of behaviour,” he added. It won’t, actually. Bill 60 as it stands doesn’t cover private institutions. But Mr. Drainville wouldn’t rule out changing it so that it would. And he suggested the Verdun daycare should force its employees to unveil at all times anyway. The Liberals agreed. The Coalition avenir Québec agreed. Even Françoise David of Québec solidaire, the tolerant face of the sovereignty movement, insisted that an “uncovered face is a requirement for education and communication.” Perhaps it is. I’m not sticking up for the niqab. But if any Quebec politician has conspicuously called for calm, or implored Quebecers not to go around photographing people who offend their sense of cultural propriety and soliciting mass scorn on social media, it escaped my notice. It’s precisely the dehumanizing element of the photograph and the backlash that makes this so unsettling: It’s as if these two women aren’t citizens wearing something we’d prefer they not, but a phenomenon to be tackled. Societies can get to a lot of very dangerous places from that starting point. So it sure would be nice to hear, at least, a few soothing voices from officialdom. Having lovingly nurtured this false crisis for so long, and for such cynical ends, the political class might want to double-check it’s still able to exert any control over it. Chris Selley: • cselley@nationalpost.com Source: National Post

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Alpha Blondy;986676 wrote: ^ ... i will launch my official candidacy for this year's Nomad of the Year. I just voted for Safferz, and I urge you to do the same.

Sun news executives are smart business men. Ratings anyone?LOL

JOE WARMINGTON | QMI AGENCY AIRING MONDAY AT 8PM ET - Rogers 142/567, Bell 506, Shaw Digital 177, Shaw Direct 149, Bell Fibe 518/1518 Every TV station wants Toronto Mayor Rob Ford. But it's Sun News Network that has landed the hottest man on the airwaves. If you have loved or even hated the Ford Show so far, stayed tuned because there's more to come. The Rob and Doug Ford Show is coming to Sun News Network. You read it right. The Fords are about to relaunch their on-air platform, this time on the small screen. The brothers have agreed to terms with Sun News to pick up where they left off with their much-listened-to show The City on Newstalk 1010. That show ended its run last week and a lot of people missed it last Sunday. SHOCKING DETAILS: Tales of booze, drugs, suspected escorts in new Rob Ford docs Mostly the Fords. "Rob is like Howard Stern or Rush Limbaugh," said Councillor Ford. "You just never know what he is going to say." Well, they will be back on the air Monday. LORRIE GOLDSTEIN: New Rob Ford show but same Sun position The show, to be called Ford Nation, will air Mondays at 8 p.m. on Sun News Network. "Following the cancellation of their top-rated radio show, we approached the Fords about hosting a show on our network," said Kory Teneycke, Sun News Network vice-president. "We are delighted to announce they have agreed." Details of the show are to be unveiled in the coming days. The Ford brothers are expected to broadcast from the Ontario St. studio and there will be other, in-the-field components to the show. Sun News Network personalities will appear including David 'The Menzoid' Menzies. LEWD WARNING: Ford denies oral sex allegations, admits drinking and driving "From day one the mayor's enemies, the left and red Tories, were going after his conservatism," said Menzies. "That didn't work so now they are going after this private life. "There is such a double standard. How come he is the only one with issues being hounded? The one thing one Ford Nation supporters say to me is ... 'Rob has personal demons that are difficult to defend' but unlike some of the gangsters at Queens Park, he doesn't have his hands in our wallet," added Menzies. The show is going to be fun because Doug - himself offering up his own share of great quotes - is right when he says you never do know what is going to come out of the embattled mayor's mouth. Rob Ford has admitted he has smoked crack cocaine, purchased illegal drugs and has driven after drinking. But, as an elected mayor, he can't be taken out of the job unless he decides to do so himself. He has insisted he is not leaving and will be running in next year's election. In recent weeks, Rob Ford has become an international media phenomenon and a staple of late night comedy shows. Council has set on a path to try to remove some of his powers as mayor while they bang drums insisting he just go away. They will all be watching Ford Nation on Sun News Network. The mayor and his brother, will have the opportunity to express their views on events past and future. News networks like CNN regularly broadcast his latest utterings. Mayor Ford seems to be in a no-holds-barred mode. There is no filter. There is no careful treading. Take for example earlier Thursday when he fought back against accusations a friend was identified possibly as an escort or prostitute by former staff in police documents. "It makes me sick how people are saying this, I can't put up with it anymore," Ford told reporters. "I have never had a prostitute here. It is very hurtful to my wife." The mayor feels he is being piled on. This show will give him a chance to fight back on his own terms. "We are in the age of reality TV and it doesn't get more real than the Fords," said Teneycke. The reality starts Monday on Sun News Network. AIRING MONDAY AT 8PM ET - Rogers 142/567, Bell 506, Shaw Digital 177, Shaw Direct 149, Bell Fibe 518/1518

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Safferz;985214 wrote: The Broker: In His Own Words Long before the Toronto Star labeled me the 'broker' as part of their story about a video of Mayor Rob Ford smoking crack cocaine, I was helping young men in my community negotiate a future that did not involve a life of crime. For more than a decade I’ve been a broker of sorts in a struggle for survival among young and vulnerable Canadian born Somali men who live in the Dixon community. I am proud of that accomplishment and I hope to continue serving in a similar capacity long after the Rob Ford story disappears from the headlines. Our community, made up of Canadians born in Somalia or to Somali immigrants, has been marginalized both by politicians elected to help them and by the police assigned to protect them. The media are never in our neighbourhood when families celebrate their children’s many accomplishments. Instead, cameras and live satellite trucks are everywhere on the morning of a raid or the day after a tragedy. By then, we are too busy worrying about our safety or grieving for a lost one to offer intelligent commentary on our social condition. The Toronto Sun profiled me ten years ago and describing the services my friends and I were providing to the community through the Dixon Youth Network, dubbed me the “Peacemaker.” Shortly after the Sun’s profile, my best friend at the time was attacked and hit over the head with an iron bar. Some misinformed thugs apparently did not like what we at the DYN were trying to do. My friend, Mohamed Omar, a budding math genius, survived the attack, but the head trauma left him with difficulties learning and remembering new information. Incidents like these are too frequent and they send a chill down the spine of anyone who wishes to help make a difference. The police was not there to protect Omar when he was attacked and yet today as young Somali men are murdered across the GTA and Alberta, Toronto Police and the RCMP has the gall to say the reason they can’t solve these murders is because no one in the community is willing to cooperate with their investigations. People who don’t share our experience are often quick to judge us and dismiss our young men as drug dealers and gangbangers. For the record, I’ve never been a member of a gang nor have I ever possessed or sold drugs to anyone. I have tried my best to be a role model to young people by becoming a contributing citizen of this wonderful country of ours. I am still burdened by an incident that took place in 2011. A young man approached me asking for my help with a problem in his life. I was apparently too busy with my own affairs to help him. A few days later 24-year-old Abdikadir Khan was killed in one of the Dixon high-rise buildings. The fact that I could have helped him and didn’t has haunted me and since that day I have made it an unwritten policy never to turn my back on anyone who reaches out to me for help. When I was approached by a young man in Dixon earlier this year to find a buyer for a video showing Mayor Ford smoking what was described to me at the time as crack cocaine, I asked to see it before agreeing to do anything. I thought it was a hoax, a skit or a prank. Unfortunately, it was none of the above. I asked him what he hoped to gain by selling it. He told me he had two videos that would be of public interest and he thought the video with Mayor Ford had a monetary value and with it he could perhaps get a head start on a new life somewhere other than Dixon. I believed he was sincere. The intense media coverage of what transpired in the days and week after the story broke has been the cause of much distress to me and many in my neighbourhood. Then came the Project Traveler raids. I too was arrested and charged with gun possession and yet I have never owned a gun in my life. I plan to defend myself against these charges in court in the months to come. In the eyes of our elders the raids were connected to reports of the crack video a month earlier. The real ‘trauma’ of the video, to invoke Bill Blair’s descriptive term, was experienced by mothers and grandmothers in Dixon on the morning of June 13 when hundreds of law enforcement officials descended on Dixon as if it was a shanty town infested with gangsters. Yet again, the Dixon neighborhood was making headlines around the world for all the wrong reasons. Now that Mayor Ford has ‘fessed’ up to his actions and more videos are beginning to surface of behavior deemed unacceptable for an elected official, my community still has to carry around the negative label of being a ‘hood’ where gangs thrive. I don’t hold out much hope for change. I expect our youth will continue to struggle to get jobs even when they have excellent qualifications. Unemployment in Dixon is about four times the national average. High school drop-out rates for Canadian born Somali teenagers will likely continue to hover just under 40 percent if action is not taken soon to reverse the trend. The lack of resources and facilities for our women, elderly and youth will continue to go unaddressed if politicians refuse to intervene and help alleviate the situation. My intention for coming out and telling my story is to shed light on the hypocrisy of a system that punishes the vulnerable for minor misdemeanors while the rich and powerful are protected by the same laws for crimes that are much more egregious. Has the time not come for our elected officials to take action that would lift my community out of a state of distress and give our youth a chance to prosper? Mohamed Farah A short time ago, I watched the episode about ford on the Fifth Estate, and I also read the above post. What is interesting about this whole episode is the brief clip that the Fifth Estate added to the final cut of the episode. The one that showed the sit down with the Star Reporter, Miss DoLittle, who basically said Mohamed Farah was singing a different tune on the night of question, the same night that he invited her to meet the videographer/drug dealer in order to arrange the transaction and come to an agreement between the two parties, Toronto Star, and the criminal. This particular revelation is important as it contradicts the rosy picture that Mohamed Farah attempted to pain during his media round, including the above post. "The world is out to get us". "We have turned to crime because society is racist and abondoned my community" bla, bla,bla. Give me a break. I don't know Mohamed Farah, and I can't imagine living in a ghetto, and/or dixon, nor am I Torontonian but I do know one thing, Mohamed Farah is not telling the whole truh. I think he got caught with his pants down, namely, the gun found in his place of residence and he is trying to clean the mess he got himself into. No judge in his right mind will issue a warrant to search a home without probable cause. This much is a fact. From what I know of project traveller, the investigation was on-going and this was much bigger than a Rob Ford Crack Video Scandal. Also, no one on their right mind would accept an excuse like the following: " I don't know how I came to have a possession of a gun." He adds: " I just don't know. Anyone that knows me knows that I'm not into guns." Bla, bla, bla. No one asked him to become a black market broker and arrange monetary transactions, nor did anyone ask if he was into guns. Its important that the Somali community of Toronto, but especially those indicted for crimes during the raid own the consequences that comes with committing a crime, and/or funding crimes, or knowinly harbour criminals, and/or turning a blind eye. This is absurd. Mohamed Farah wants symphathy. I'm not buying what he is selling. I also don't believe that he got involved in the illegal transaction of selling the Ford Crack Video out of the goodness of his heart. He just wanted to help a poor drug dealer, yada, yada. He should be honest with himself and admit that he wanted to make quick cash. I think he made a deal with the drug dealer, Mohamed Siad, and he knowinly attempted to arrange the deal, and such, he knew the consequences of his actions, and in the end it back fired and he failed as a black market broker. Reporter DoLittle of the Toronto Star said in her in the Fifth Estate episode that the broker and the drug dealer were both inconsistent. They didn't know what they were saying or why they were doing what they were doing. First, the broker came forward because he wanted the truth about the mayor to come out, then he wanted to help his client/ drug dealer friend escape a life of crime and marry, so he can live happily ever after. Finally, I believe that Mohamed Farah is doing damage control, this is why he came forward and decided to make the media rounds. He thinks he can win the court of public opinion so he can get off on the gun charges. Whatever the case might be, Mohamed Farah is far from innocent.

This tragedy and others like it go beyond just human trafficking. Rape and torture occurs daily. Not to mention modern day slavery, where some studies estimate nearly a million people are exploited, and brought and/or traded along the borders of Europe under the demise and promise of new opportunities, employment being one, only to be turned to forced labour and sexual bondage, with no immediate escape. This isn't to suggest that there aren't any survivors. On the contrary, there are many, and while some of these victims turn to the trade as a survival mechanism, sometimes going to being tortured to becoming the torturer, a Madam of sort,others escape, with the psychological and physical scars. (the ladder count themselves lucky when in fact the trauma they suffer is life altering) In some of the studies I read, the leading victims come from poor families in parts of Eastern Europe and Sub-Saharan Africa, Nigeria being on top of the list. With that said, the subject of this thread, who the Italian police said was of Somali descent was identified by some of the survivals, one report mentioned. This is why the Italian police were able to capture him with the help of his victims. The victims accused him of torture and rape of some of the Oromo and Somali women who were on board. The report alleges that he was part of the criminal gang responsible for trafficking the victims and survivals of the boat that sank off the Lampedusa. Read more here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24866338 PS: Ibti, you have every right to be outraged, and ofcourse, the criminals deserve the very same faith as their victims, but this is much bigger than just one man. Human trafficking is a lucrative business, and as such it isn't easy just to punish an individual when an entire organization is responsible. You kill one, ten more will be recruited within the hour.

STOIC;984869 wrote: Incase some are wondering why a Lander will be tuning in here and posting this "first Somali" stuff, this guy is ethnically Somalilander as Xaaji will say it.I personally met this guy.He is Silanyo Cousin (Sub-clan politicking haha)... Well both him and Abdi Warsame got elected same night so there is No first in a race.. The above post is very troubling. I didn't know iney SOL saan kuu haleysay. Aad ayaad u fududaatay. YOu have been reading old Oodweyne posts for far too long, ee nin yahow is qabo, sidaan xal maaha.

*Ibtisam;984769 wrote: Please iska amuus- it is irrelevant what Somali girls wear or want to wear. The fact is- If and when I want to wear a niqab, I should be able to . Ibti, don't hush the boy. He brought up a great point. Mida hore you are entitled to make personal statements but not facts, because personal statements are not facts. With that said, the decade long question that continues to hunt you and which you have no answer to is, why you want to wear a NIQAB? Surely it can't be for fashion. I just don't understand what this personal choice is all about. What is so fascinating about the cloth? Mida kale, clothes are relevant, and women's fashion is very much relevant. How you dress matters as thats how people judge you. Clothes reveal more about a person than one likes to admit. You are judged by the way you look and if I can't see you, I can't judge you.

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Naxar Nugaaleed;984643 wrote: I wonder though, why don't these candidates run in non-Somali dominated districts. Naxar, thats a good question and one that I had hoped Sanka would answer. I would love to know what his thoughts are about gerrymandering and rigging electoral maps. As you may or may not know, Sanka's candidate came to the spotlight as a champion of redistricting campaign. He and others advocated for a fair representation at city hall. The group felt that they were underrepresented in local elections. Instead of running for local elections based on merit, they cried foul. Said the current system is rigged for the old residents, we can't win against them based on merit. We want the district maps redrawn. We want to gerrymander our way to city hall. Some time last year, and Sanka can correct me, a group of Minneapolis residents got together and decided that the make up of the city was changing and as such, local elections should give a fair chance for minority in a majority districts a chance to be competitive with legitimate candidates who ran for local elections. Get this, and this is getting good, the proposed map was put into a public hearing, it got alot of support, and as such, the new electoral maps were approved. This included the current, and the hotly contested Ward 6, represented by the man you called "whitey" earlier. In the past he has represented a fairly represented Ward, but the current make up, and the way the new map drew up certain neighbourhoods to boost the minority majority representation put the incumbent at a disadvantage, and his co-minority opponents at an advantage. As such, Sanka's candidate saw a void, and decided to campaign, and cash in on the momentum of the redistricting victory that this particular neighbourhood, aka ward 6 won. Shockingly, the new ward 6 puts the visible minorities in the majority, and the traditional voters at a minority disadvantage. It also took away certain blocks and put those blocks in another district to boost minority majority districts. You can say that Sanka's candidate is in a place today that basically sums up the following: " I couldn't run city elections unless the electoral maps were rigged my way, lol." Essentially, Sanka's candidate gerrymandered his way into local elections, lol. Redistricting electoral boundaries is not running a legitimate political campaign, but oh well.

^ ofcourse not Naxar, atleast not in Sanka's bubble. Seriously, Sanka will like to pain a unity potrait among Somalis, who will all rally behind his candidate. That said, he is very dismissive of all the other Somali candidates. He and others believe that Somalis are not divisive community, and after all, the man behind the new surge of candidates of Somali sounding names is none other than the incumbent. Take some responsibility for the way your candidate ran his campaign. Sweeping endorsements and intimidation inspired others to dream of one day to run the projects, lol. In fact, tonight's results will reveal one of two things. 1) Somalis in Minneapolis are divisive community, and Sanka's candidate loses. 2) Somalis are united, and are determined to vote as a block, in this case Sanka's candidate will win by a small margin. Either way, the city council elections in Minneapolis have not been clean and are not clean. This much is a fact with the finger pointing among Somali candidates.

^Both Abdi identify with the DFL branch, but one is endorsed by the party and one isn't. This is due to the fact that the second abdi is late to the game. LOL... Meet the other Abdi that Sanka doesn't want you to know about... Libaax-Sankataabte;984628 wrote: Lazy, the reason why Brian Coyle is not as busy is that most of Cedar-Riverside residents voted absentee. If I am not mistaken, approximately 1600 absentee votes were cast for Abdi Warsame. Mida hore, by whose estimation? If 4,000+ absentee ballots were casted, and of which 1,600+ came from Ward 6, how is it that all of those ballots were counted for your candidate? Are you attempting to fudge numbers? LOL Mida kale, you are underestimating the power of voter confusion, in addition to using the rank choice voting, talk about a chaotic afternoon. Also, I don't have a dog in this fight. Unlike you, I'm an objective observer when it comes to the Somali candidates. Why did you choose Abdi and not the other Abdi? and why didn't you discuss the recent allegations? Complaint Filed Against Abdi Warsame for Campaign Finance Violation Minneapolis, MN Oct. 31, 2013 District 3 Park Board Candidate Said Maye has filed a complaint with the Office of Administrative Hearings against the Warsame Volunteer Committee for violating campaign finance law. Warsame and his team produced and distributed a sample ballot that encourages voters to support his personal choices for Mayor and Park Board. This type of in-kind contribution violates MN Statue which states that a candidate cannot use their campaign funds to contribute to the principal campaign of another candidate. Minnesota Campaign Finance law is very clear as to how money can be raised and spent. Specifically 211A.13 prohibits the transfer of contributions between two candidates’ principal campaign committees. Said Maye says “It has come to my attention that a group of candidates have been working together to employ unethical dishonest tactics to further their campaigns. Their loose regard for campaign finance law is only a small part of the despicable acts I have observed and witnessed in my neighborhood.” Warsames 1st choice support of Mark Andrew, John Erwin, and Scott Vreeland should be investigated as this may only be the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the illegal coordination of campaigns in Minneapolis. ### Said Maye Candidate for Minneapolis Park Board District 3 (612)222-6166 saidmaye@gmail.com Like·Comment·Share Source:http://southwestminneapolis.patch.com/groups/said-maye-candidate-for-parks-district---3/p/ae9b60a7-94ca-4ab2-ae79-de8d5ee2d9dd Sure, the first Abdi is running a clean campaign, atleast that what Sanka will have us believe.

Like it or not, the Somali vote is split between Sanka's candidate and the fella below...all signs point to 8pm.

StarTribune's very own Maya Rao tweeted the below picture: https://twitter.com/Mrao_Strib/status/397781078833774592/photo/1

^ To you it may seem like that. Maybe even to your candidate, but thats politics Sanka. There are always surprises, but the entry of multiple candidates prior to the filing deadline is very common in a tight race. Its not illegal, and the incumbent did not break any laws. During the DFL caucus, the incumbent accused your candidate's supporters of using "gay slurs". Some of the volunteers were heard directing caucus goers to your candidate's lane with the line: If you are voting for the "QANIIS" this way, if you are voting for the Somali guy "THAT WAY", sound familiar? The chatter and dirty campaigning has always been there. This isn't something the incumbent just started. And for god's sake, dont say your candidate is innocent, and his opponent isn't. Thats just naive. In any case, the video you shared proves nothing. Waayo, your candidate is using Hennepin County Website as proof that the new candidates are fraud. That is not evidence, especially considering that some of his constituents dont know what he is talking about when your candidate says the folowing at the 3:00 minute mark: "The incumbent and I the only two candidates who filed. We are the only two candidates who registered their committees, no other candidate did". This is nothing, considering that Campaign Finance Reporting is not a term most Farax's are familiar with. Nor do most Farax's know the deadline for filing, penalty, and why some candidates choose to do it before the deadlines and others dont. There are various deadlines, the fine is rather small in comparison to other states, and counties, and it proves nothing because we both know that Campaign Finance Reporting could happen for some after the elections, while others choose to disclose their finances during the elections. Again, this isn't evidence at all. It also doesn't proof anything. Its a delaying tactic.

Sanka, are you rallying votes based on ethnic identity or policy issues? If its the former, then you should be more transparent and disclose the full list of candidates in the ballot box, lastname and all. After all, the candidates paid the same registration fee as your candidate, and the namesake of this thread. For those that are not following the campaign for City Council in Minneapolis for Ward 6, the following candidates have their names on the ballot for Tuesday, November 5th, 2013: 1) Robert Lilligren (Incumbent) 2) Abdi Warsame (Sanka's choice of candidate) 3) Mahamed A Cali 4) Abdi Addow 5) Sheikh Abdul 6) Abukar Abdi 7) Abdulahi Mahamud Warsame (withdrew his candidacy shortly after the filing) Source: http://vote.minneapolismn.gov; http://www.startribune.com/

^ lol@you.

Ibti, I'm doing well, thank you. I miss you too. I can't believe that people are handing judgments when they dont even know the subject. But what is more disturbing is seeing a familiar face on SOL, and she has no idea how many crazies she attracted here.

SomaliPhilosopher;982421 wrote: The inherit problem in this debate is safferz is approaching Islam academically-a more so theoretical angle- and the rest r approaching Islam as everyday practicers- practical Islam... practically two different religions hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha@ Somali Philosopher

*Ibtisam;982368 wrote: LOOL @ this thread- Regardless of how many generations we go- the issue of controlling Somali women options in marriage will remain important to our brothers. Mainly because Somali men think they OWN Somali women and no one else should mess with their stock. Cavemen mentality. Of course nin can do what he likes- because wa nin uu. I am always glad to see that Somali women continue to live their life as they see fit regardless of what their men folks say/do. People often comment oo "nin Somali aha miyaad weyed?" or like one of the poster said they think you married a foreign as a last resort" lol BUT lets be honest- the majority of young Somali women are incompatible with Somali men of their age or even few years older- so they will better fit with people who share the ideals and the same internationalist view point. If young Somali men want to retain the majority of Somali girls in marriage who were born/ grew up in the west- a shift in both ideas and mentality is required. Otherwise both can purse different options- girls with finding what they want in others and men can return home and purchase a traditional marriage. lol@IBTI

Safferz;982302 wrote: Just like the Xalimo and Chinese guy are both Americans, or whatever... FYI to all the SOL Farax's...The subject is Canadian.

^ Hi Ibti, I see that you are at it again. LOL :cool::cool::cool: