^not only is he defending it, he wants to be the one in the operating table. lol@Abti Johnny, you dont say. What is surprising abti is not that this so called Mufti is calling for his version of "Islam" to be implemented but Raga meesha joogo are so desperate for legitimacy that they just might throw in few of his amendments and 50% discount to spice things up. They will sell their hooyo if they could, all in the name of legitimacy. Think about it, it isn't just these silly, illiterate mufti's calling for restricting women's movement and want to roll the clock back to 13th century but this type of servitude goes unchecked because it is "permissible" according to the Mufti's of Somalia and SOL's very own Macalinka. Speaking of Macalinka, you better be careful when you are using certain nouns. For one, no comprehensive research has been conducted that suggests what you are selling us...(majority this and that).... Until such studies become conclusive, you and I, and anyone else here can fabricate consensus any which way we want but it is and WILL REMAIN A LIE. Therefore, you, Mr Macalinka Lie. Mida kale, before you start producing the versions of the sunna that support your point of view, keep in mind, you are selling unchecked, unproven secondary sources, with specific to waxa aan meesha laga doodayo. Instead, I recommend that you learn Arabic so that you can read the scripture yourself. Do not rely on someone to do something you can do for yourself. Until then, may peace be upon you. Mida kale, ya Macalin.... You said the following: Don't take Al-shabab as an example of Muslims, alshaabaa are minority group and in no way they represent Muslims in Somalia. You are in no position to call anyone's strict interpretation of their deen as "minority" Waayo, your version is only espoused by "minority", so who do you think you are delegitimatizing your beloved Islamists? ....if the essential Islam propagated by some Islamist is what you are after, you better turn off the computer. You better denounce worldly goods and find the nearest cave that can cater to your needs. There is no such thing as "Minority", if you want people to buy your version of "Islam", you better start strapping your vest on because thats exactly what you should believe. There is no such thing as moderate "Islamist", there is only the Islamist of "Al-Shabaab/Taliban" version. Anyone else, need not apply. You can not be in favour of certain values your kind propagates while you denounce enslavement of little boys, the repulsion and condemnation of the woman via her rights, the defiling of her body, etc. (waxaas ma soconeyso) The only thing new about this denunciation and repulsion that plays in the public discourse (as quoted by the subject of this thread) is that your Islamist boys are using religion to justify the repulsion and condemnation, instead of modernity and reaction and rally against political and social decay caused by two decades of assault and suffering. This is where reading a book or two can go along way. Because you will know that its not original. LOL

Che -Guevara;853409 wrote: Lazy.....Forget basketball, the Brits are lucky if they win anything at all. I think they took their first medal today. As expected, the Chinese are ahead of the pack.. Lol, you don't say. Lets give them the benefit of the doubt. Did you watch the men's gymnastics (Artistic/Qualification rounds?) Very impressive. Team GB might be on to something there. The Chinese ayey voodoo ku sameeyeen, did you notice how ay Chinese Team ay u dhacdhaceen? Mistake after mistake and all of a sudden Team GB came out of nowhere and made to the finals. They just earned a trip to the podium with a Bronze. LOL@Team GB's crushing blow yesterday, Russia's blew a hole into them. It was fun watching the Brits playing b-ball. They may not get a break at all but if they do, it might be sometime late next week towards the end of the preliminaries. In any case, Make sure you set your PVRs thursday night, waayo, Round 1 of the 400m women will air at 7am (Eastern Time), Friday, August 3rd(4am Pacific and 8am Central) 12pm Local (LIVE FROM London) Mohamed's 1500m airs at 3:05pm, Friday, August 3rd. Round 1 (8:05pm Local time) LOL@ZAMZAM, she sings....she runs, there is definitely a future for this youngster.

According to the fake Mullah, or so called Gudoomiyaha Culumada Soomaaliyeed, his honorouble "Shiir" Bashiir Axmed Salaad says that, Atheists are not people. Women are not people. Proposed constitution does not reaffirm the Shiir's manhood, so he wants to amend it... His proposal is that women should be declared minors. Non-believers have no right to call themselves "Atheists". Raamsade and Abti Johnny B war aa niiyaalo.... Guddoomiyaha Culummada Soomaaliyeed wants women's Vagina regulated... He wants to add an amendment that states: "Women have no right, They cannot vote, they cannot hold public office. A woman's place is in the home. In addition, A woman's Vagina should be regulated. Men will decide when and where women are circumcised." He adds: " Raamsade is a Muslim. He cant leave Islam. Too bad about Raamsade, he is a minor. This is what the Diinta dictates." For more details, read the article here:http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2012/July/wararka_maanta29-18775.htm Hay'adda Culummada Soomaaliyeed oo sheegay in Qodobbo ka mid ah Dastuurka ay ka Horimaanayaan Diinta Islaamka Axad, July 29, 2012 (HOL) — Warsaxafadeed ay hay'adda culummada Soomaaliyeed kasoo saartay Muqdisho maanta oo Axad ah ayay ku sheegtay in dastuurka ay ku jiraan qodobbo ka horimaanaya diinta Islaamka, iyadoo codsatay in lagu asmeeyo isbedel ka hor inta aan la ansixin. Guddoomiyaha hay'adda culummada Soomaaliyeed, Sheekh Bashiir Axmed Salaad oo wariyeyaasha la hadlay ayaa sheegay in ergada u fadhida ansixinta dastuurka ay qodobbadaas ku sameeyaan isbedel. "Waxaan codsanaynaa in la saxo qodobbada sida tooska ah uga horimaanaya diinta Islaamka sida: qabashada dumarka dhammaan jagooyinka, gudniinka gabdhaha oo aan fircooniga ahayn oo la cambaareeyay lana reebay, ergayga caruur oo lagu qeexay wixii ka yar 18-ka sano, xorriyadda diinta oo aan xadkeedii la caddeyn, loona baahan yahay in lasoo celiyo faqraddii ahayd qofka muslimka ah kama bixi karo diintiisa," ayuu yiri Sheekh Bashiir oo warsaxaafadeedkii ay soo saareen akhrinayay. Hay'adda culummada oo saaxiib weyn la ahayd dowladda KMG ah kuna baaqi jirtay in la taageero xilliyadii ay dagaalladu ka socdeen Muqdisho ayaa waxay haatan u muuqataa in fikirkeedu isbedelay, waxayna howlaha socda ku tilmaameen kuwo aan loo baahnayn. "Shareeco Islaam oo lagu dhaqmo ayaan sugaynay ee maxay tahay waxa lala cararayo ee ********nimada ah... waa arrin runtii aad looga xun yahay, sida ku qoran baaqa ergada waxaan xusuusin lahayn mas'uuliyadda taariikhiga ah inay ilaahay kaga baqaan, gaar ahaan waxa kasoo horjeeda diinta islaamka iyo danta Qaranka Soomaaliyeed," ayuu yiri Sheekh Nuur Baaruud Gurxan oo ah afhayeenka hay'adda culummada Soomaaliyeed oo isaguna goobta ka hadlay. Ugu dambeyn, hay'addu waxay ka dalbatay beesha calaamka inay fuliso laba qodob oo kala ah inay shacabka Soomaaliyeed xaq u leeyihiin inay aayahooda ka tashadaan si la mid ah sida bulshadooda kale ee caalamka iyo inaan deggenaashaha dalka lagu gaari karin afduub iyo amar ku taagleyn. Maxamed Xaaji Xuseen, Hiiraan Online maxuseen@hiiraan.com Muqdisho, Soomaaliya Courtesy of HiiraanOnline

Che -Guevara;853281 wrote: lool@Norf....remind s of me 80s video games. Lazy........Basketball gets boring after-while. Don't know how people watch an entire season? Che, no one, not even David Stern watches an entire season.... Speaking of basketball, I didn't know Team GB's Men's Basketball knew what B-ball was, much less know how to dribble. No names ee meesha keyneen, and ofcourse the one Sudanese they could bribe, Loul Deng. My predictions.....because Team GB finds itself in a predicament, and they happen to be on the toughest of the two groups(call Group B "group of death) they will go 0-5 in the preliminary rounds. Or 1-4, incase China finds itself rusty. Afterwards, if they are lucky, they may get a pat on the back from the Queen but thats about it. No news, nothing to see. Olympic basketball is like the USA WOMEN's Basketball...the outcome is very predictable for the one andtwo spot. On other news, USA Men's Basketball is not looking good for the GOLD....too many Oklahoma thunders for my liking....Worse case scenario, they cruise through the silver...

NGONGE;853330 wrote: ps. The athletes representing Somalia will (hopefully) do just that (represent). It does not matter if they win or lose. The fact that they are there when hundreds of others are not is enough (for now). . Minutes after Ngonge heard the news that fadhi ku dirir wasn't an olympic sport.....and he didnt qualify for his beloved sport.....Hopefully Ngonge can just sit and do nothing...(you know, represent)

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

what a sight.....

the countdown is on............

Kenenisa Bekele, the greatest long distance racer of our time is about to take the stage. and our silly Canadian broadcaster CTV took a commercial break right before the legend walked out.....

Djibouti just rocked the Dirac....hahahaha thats awesome...

Macallinka;853191 wrote: Best bits of my hereo - MO FARAH . 4 - Gold Medals 3- British Record 2- European Record 2- World's fastest times ....That is what I call champion. Enjoy it, watch how he distroys Ethiopians and Kenyans ...love it. I hope you realize competing in those silly European races is not the same thing as preparing for the olympics...? Lets not mention Lander's boyfriend until after he takes the stage.... According to the schedule, AUGST 4, 21:00 will be the last time we hear: "Mo Farah aa inta ka dhacay"....

Alpha Blondy;853215 wrote: watching the opening ceremony with my brother at my house in hargesia. not impressed with the over-representation of ethnic minorities been masqueraded as 'brits'. britian is not not a multicultural country. lol@Alpha in under 6 mins, Canada will walk out....pay attention to the swimming team, 2 of my alpha maters are about to walk out.....GO canada and in under an hour, my beloved Somalia will walk out with two of our finest athletes... Edited: Canada takes the stage....

Did someone call out St Leo Bolt's name? ready or not.... I really, really look good.......

^ Athletics is rubbish, Really? Basketball is rubbish, really? Swimming is rubbish, really? Diving, really? Rowing, really? Watching those juiced up chinese gymnasts is like watching death slowly. Plain and simple, its torture. I would rather watch the Women's Skeet or fencing or better yet put a pencil in my eye before I tune in to gymnastics. Today's featured athlete: USA/Marathon: Abdihakem Abdirahman

Niqabi goes on a shopping-alcohol binge Watch it here: Niqabi goes on a shopping binge http://youtu.be/GwvA2CRxm7A" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> So a Boy in a Burka Walks Into an LCBO... By: Peter Worthington Co-founder of the Toronto Sun One of the most significant local stories in recent times that has nationwide -- if not worldwide -- implications, is the one that appeared in the Toronto Sun on Tuesday about the 14-year-old boy in a burka buying liquor with impunity. Yes, it was a stunt orchestrated by Sun TV News host David Menzies, but it was not a stunt designed only to shock, but one aimed at underlining a problem. And the problem is not 14-year-old grade 8 boys buying booze, but of anyone wearing a burka or veil, rarely being questioned. Those who feel the staff are culpable at three LCBOs for not demanding the Burka-clad person show a face, or at least identity as the law requires, are missing the point. Had they demanded the purchaser show a face or produce identity, they may well have feared being accused of prejudice or being motivated by hate. Who can blame the LCBO cashier for not risking the wrath of human rights zealots who often seem to lack qualities of common sense that one would think would be a requirement for the job? Nor is it unknown that Western "converts" to Islam use wearing the burka as a statement, and even a provocation. The greater implications of this burka-and-booze story is that it could happen anywhere. Personally, I await with interest when the first burka-clad gang of robbers hits a bank, mindful of the Bill Murray movie (Quick Change) where the bank robbers were dressed as clowns to pull the job. Funny, but effective. The burka is an ideal disguise in our country, because we are so sensitized to pretending it's normal, that we are reluctant to cause a scene by asking questions. One only has to think back to when the Soviet Union occupied Afghanistan and enterprising Western reporters periodically tried to enter the country disguised as women in burkas. It didn't work too well then, because the guys in the burkas were much taller than most Afghan women, and stood out. Then there was a case in Florida a few years ago, where a niqab-clad Muslim woman wanted her photo for a driver's license taken with her face covered. When she was told to show her face to the camera, all hell broke loose as she and others demanded their "human right" not to show her face. The same argument has occurred over Muslim women testifying in court and insisting that they have the right to be in disguise. Quebec is one province that has taken a lead by insisting that the burka is taboo when applying for a government job or appearing as a witness in court where the accused has a right to face an accuser. That sort of thing. Wearing a burka or veil has little to do with religion, and everything to do with cultural mores. Many feel that when people from other cultures come to this country, they should at least go through the motions of adjusting to the new culture to which they've been granted citizenship. That doesn't seem too much to ask. And in fairness, most who emigrate here do adjust, and add diversity to the existing culture. The David Menzies story in the Sun nicely defines the problem, and readers are fortunate that columnists like Tarek Fatah, Farzana Hussein and Salim Mansur have the courage to defy extremism, and put a touchy problem into perspective. COurtesy of Toronto Sun, Sun News Network, and Huffingtonpost Canada.... Enjoy

Courtesy of Radio Muqdisho

Give me Somali produce, please

Give me some Somali produce, Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How about them lettuce? One day only, fresh canned tomatoes.........sale, sale, saleeeeeeeeeeeeeee Somali produce Be a pal and buy a pound of kaluun. You want a bargain? I will give you a bargain

Nine-year-old Quebec girl pulled from soccer tournament for wearing hijab By Chloe Fedio, Postmedia News OTTAWA — A nine-year-old Gatineau, Que., girl who refused to remove her headscarf was forced to stand on the sidelines Sunday as her team played — and won — the final match of a soccer tournament. The order came just days after the International Football Association Board voted to lift its hijab ban based on the fact “there is no medical literature concerning injuries as a result of wearing a headscarf,” the organization stated on its website. Rayane Benatti was told to take off her headscarf for safety reasons, but she refused. “It made me feel very sad,” she said Monday. “I love soccer.” Gatineau’s regional soccer association maintains it made the right decision. Until the international organization approves a design, colour and material for headscarves during matches, “scarves of all sorts” will remain banned, said Gatineau’s director of tournaments Marc St-Amour. “It’s not because she was wearing a hijab — it’s because she was wearing a piece of equipment that is not recognized,” Mr. St-Amour said. On July 5, the International Football Association Board “agreed to unanimously approve — temporarily during a trial period — the wearing of headscarves.” The organization will define the design, colour and material at a meeting in October. It made me feel very sad. I love soccer “The piece of equipment needs to go through a process,” Mr. St-Amour said. Due to protests, Rayane was allowed to play a game on Friday and another on Saturday morning but was refused participation in the following three games. Despite her love of soccer, Rayane said she was glad she refused to remove her scarf — an item she has been wearing daily since October 2011. “I decided to wear the headscarf out of love for Allah,” Rayane said. “Some people decide not to do it because they don’t have enough courage. I had the courage to do it.” Read it here:http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/07/10/nine-year-old-quebec-girl-pulled-from-soccer-tournament-for-wearing-hijab/

Ethiopia's Kenenisa Bekele An athlete who is representing the country of his birth.......LONG LIVE ETHIOPIA....the home of Kenenisa Bekele

This is an olympic thread, not world championship thread. If you want to discuss Mo Farah's achievements, open another thread so we can hash it out there. But when it comes to discussions about olympics, only the mere morals are discussed, namely your boyfriend's masters...The kings of the 5000m & 10,000m meets. Kenenisa Bekele & Dejen Gebremeskel I do not discuss athletes who cant even crack the top 25 of all times in the 5000m events... I do not and will not discuss disappointments, namely, athletes who are behind, say Spain's Jesus Espana, who came 14th in the final with a time of:------13:55.94, 2008, Beijing Olympics. Funny thing about facts, in that they are indisputable. fact, that which is indisputable....i.e, personal best, cannot crack the top 25 of all time in the 5000m, your boyfriend's specialty. Fact, that which is indisputable.....your boyfriend came empty in the last summer games....2008 BEIJING OLYMPICS anyone? He couldn't even get past the first round..... Fact, your boyfriend never won an olympic medal (not even bronze) but the King of 5000m, 10,000m, Ethiopia's Kenenisa Bekele has 3 olympic gold medals, 1 silver, and wants to do three-peat in the 10,000m event, and wants repeat in the 5,000m. Fact, Mo Farah cannot beat the record of the Ethiopian reserve in both the 5000m, and 1000m.....reserve, for heavens sake facts eh? Funny thing about facts is that your boyfriend is not fact friendly...LOL

Mo Farah is not a member of the Somali Olympic Team..... Mo Farah is and has been a member of TEAM GB. This means that even if he wins one or two of the events thats he is competing, 5000m and 10,000m which is highly unlikely, he will win as a member of TEAM GB...the best he can be is the first Somali born-British Athlete in the above events. I dont even know if that means much but why are we talking about someone that may not even come close second in the above mentioned events? The focus is and should be TEAM SOMALIA's very own Zamzam Mohamed Farah who will compete in the women's 400m and Mohamed Mohamed Hassan in the men's 1,500m. In other news, our very own Abdi Bile will be the flag bearer, representing Somalia in the 2012 olympics...... miyee team Silaanyo, oops, I mean team Ngonge? Somaliyey toosoo, toosoo isku tiirsada eey....hadba kiina taag daraneey taageera waligineey.... one more time... Somaliyey toosoo, toosoo isku tiirsada eey....hadba kiina taag daraneey taageera waligineey.... and again Somaliyey toosoo, toosoo isku tiirsada eey....hadba kiina taag daraneey taageera waligineey....

Kool_Kat;850246 wrote: Waryaara hee! Bal "love" iyo "broken heart" iyo nacnacda kale meel ii dhigi...Ma anigaa mise now a days "MARRIAGE" is being taken very lightly? Getting married to get over a broken heart? WTH! When you have a broken heart, you eat Häagen-Dazs, shukulaato and watch romantic comedies and cry your eyes out; you give yourself time, time for your heart to heal; you surround yourself with good people (family/friends); if you still have time to sit around and can not take the feeling of your heart being broken - GO GET A JOB OR TWO and work your behind off like a Mehican! Wah!!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, wallaahi waad iga qoslisay, KK qof ciyaareyso ma tihid. Mida kale, Is it me or Aaliyah waligeed Women's corner maka baxdo...(you are all over this thread like a junkie and his needle. hadal waa wax fiican but waan iska hadla for the sake of hadal does not benefit anyone, the least of all the poster.) You have to have experience in other to talk about matters of the heart. (bal ha xanaaqin oo personal haka dhigan arintan, ee take it for what it is...it has to be said) Let me ask you ask yourself a question, waligaa relationship ma yeelatay oo waligaa wiil mala socotay? (this is something you have to ask yourself, only you know the answer) Be honest with yourself and ask, have I ever been in a relationship? If the answer is no, ask yourself, What makes me an expert? What am I feeling? Why do I have strong views about relationships, the least of all marriage? Before aad relationship ha kadashid but orod ee experience it for yourself, and report back. Until then, waxa aad sheegoosid waa just hadal micno laheyn. Again, this is not personal. Take it for what it is.. Best wishes, LayZie G.

Che -Guevara;852335 wrote: Well, other than the two atheists I mentioned earlier whose transformation was rooted in practical experience and yearning questions, the rest simply follow certain predictable timeline starting with studying at school where it seems their confined mind exploded and took in everything that come their way. They really can't tell you when was the critical juncture where things have become clear for them. All they do is regurgitate things they heard in class or venues they frequent once they get baptized . Baptism is a form of rite. The rite is commonly attributed to the Church, therefore its very essence is dogmatized. Its a form of christening the faithful; in this case, a member of a church. Also, you have made some serious gaffes today. Mida hore, you are conflating dogma with reason. Mida kale, you are conflating Atheism with Christianity. In addition to that, baro waxa ay reason tahay, iyo waxa ay dogma tahay. And what it means to be a unbeliever. (in this case, what it means to be an atheist) Atheism is not synonymous with any good theory like reason / rationalism. Not all (unbelievers) in this case atheists are rationalists. And not all rationalists are unbelievers (aka atheists) I hope this clears things up for you.....(unless ofcourse you want to edit your post and pretend you didnt have a brain fart) Best Wishes, LayZie G.