good lord some people take things way to serious! Raula is just wishing everyone a happy new year. whats wrong with that! why do some pple in here have to change everything into some sort of argument! New Year has nothing to do with christianity infact its a occasion that the world celebrates. anyway, raula happy new year to you to

^^juba, aaka aaka shololob ma taqaanit miyaa maya ma aqaani bal iisheeg

^^ :rolleyes:

^^ ..we both have apples i don't think you want to know!

you combined good advice with humor thanx!

Simly the best ^ juba aaka aaka shololob what does that mean? :confused: :confused: :confused:

..holding our d**k with one hand and a cigar in the other typical :rolleyes: Xu being a women does come with its responsibilites and at times it feels like the burden of the world is on our shoulders but that was how Allah made it to be and we can't do much but try our best to live. So cheer up because your strifes will be rewarded greatly in the afterlife.

Simply the best you to!! :confused:

^^^ Why are you guys acting bashful when you always write in somali anyway?? What makes you think you can't write in somali here when you do everywhere else?? :confused: no prob wid me feel free

^ same here

just wanted to say i got the book and it looks interesting. im gonna start reading and probably finish it by the end of the holdiay break. Classique since december is almost over and no one seems to be done why don't we make the discussion start on: 2-20/1/05 hopefully everyone will be done by then

koya you do seem to be preaching a little there but welcome nonetheless. Orgilaqe no need to vent here bro no matter how annyoing koya's word are to you. Be the bigger person and just ignore it (i have a feeling that everyone else was trying to)Unless koya is plainly trying to convert you, be polite because he/she was. talking about conversions, i think i understand some of your suspicions which are expected. You never know if the'll convert back or be slacking in the practice. But so can muslims by birth! some converts can be better in faith and practice then some experienced muslims. marrying someone is a big risk by itself no matter a convert or not.

^would you perfer radical and fundamental islam? don't confuse moderate with modern<--that being the bad one to some muslims What actions would you associate with moderate islam?

^ i was just about to say that! but anyway cali, welcome to SOL and enjoy your stay!

beatuiful poem!! i can't wait to copy and paste this and share with freinds and family. This the only somali poem i could understand with your helpful translations.

don't hate APPRECIATE! damn to many pple complaining about the LONG topic when i have seen MUCH longer on SOL! give nur a break and who said you have to read the whole thing! its called Skimmimg! i don't even think nur expects you lazy bumbs(refering to me aswell) to read everything! i thank you nur for the helpful and interesting info articles anyway, what happened to this girl is quite tragic. i never heard this sort of trickery before! arranged marriage is not something i would chose but i heard form a source(don't remeber what or where) that arranged marraiges last longer than an unarranged marriage!!! their is virtually no divorce among them! it really depends on the individual who has a choice anyway. As mentioned before i don't believe it appropriate for our times.

Viking ..claim that they were treated like dirt. Very true, i have sadly seen much of this unjustice not only to africans but indians aswell! i see where your coming from viking. All i wish is that we could fend for ourselves but that is difficult because of our poverty while their noses are brown from burying their faces deep into occidental rectums,trying to please kufaar :eek: muslims should help one another viking, but to what extent?. The arabs can't do much for us and apperently really don't want to. We can't beg and plead. it is their choice wether they feel in a giving mood. They are really unconcerned with our strifes and to busy competing with the west in modernization and westernization (don't deny it) even the americans have helped us out more than the arabs have and even that help was tainted with alterior motives! So you see, not many major countries including the middleast give a flying crap about us.(i wonder why :rolleyes: )

Viking good one u realy fooled me until the last line ofcourse but really u didn't see one ounce of sense in my post? i think u misunderstand what i mean! i understand that u think it plain greed on the part of arabs but im trying to say that WHY should we soleyly depend on the arabs for help!!or a better question why are u so bent on the arabs to help us as if it was their duty?(just cause their muslim doesn't make them responsible for our strifes and troubles some that WE caused on ourselves!) we need to start doing things for ourselves. When the time comes its not the arabs that will lead us to success with their money but Us as somalis and africans. Don't u want to be responsible for your OWN success and acomplishmnets? why give a reason for the arabs to act like our saviours!!!

dubais success is its own. Why does it have to help anyone else? i mean it took that long to acquire its wealth and prosperity.(just cause oils right there for them doesn't mean its easy! they actually know how to exploit their own rescources something we as africans need to start doing) Every country looks out for its own wellbeing and is only worried about THEMSELVES and THEIR wealth. It sounds selfish but that is how nations reach the top, through greed. Some of you argue that our rich arab brothers should give a helping hand. Why don't we give OURSELVES a helping hand. We can't always cry for help. Reaching dubais height IS possible but we just need to get our priorites striaght and start DOING things that will benefit it us not only in the present but in the FUTURE.

it isn't that important but it would be nice. i mean wouldn't you like someone you could talk to about what facinates you wether it be the distance formula or why the sky is blue? i agree your intellectual side does not make or break a relationship but it would make an interesting one!

^^oops can't seem to get that straight. it won't happen again

Og girl u said "the situation is bad as it is not genocide" are u actually denying that this situation is not a genocide!!! the janjaweed ARE attempting to extermenate the ethnic southern sudanesse wether it be for resources or control over all of Sudan. They might be trying to push the southern sudanesse out of sudan by raiding the villages and so forth. It is working because the ethnic sudanesse by the hundreds are running out of their borders.

Haddad, Darfur is already forgotten.

Alle-ubaahne you are WAY to quick on jumping to conclusions. Their has to be an iota of truth to this article, or else FF wouldn't have posted it. i actually heard form other somali friends of mine that the Bantu WERE actually mistreated by the somalis but not to severe degree.Do u mistrust all gaal as people who are always out to get u?? your narrow outlook of anyone who is not muslim is distressing.

Simply the Best form what i read u seem to believe that divorce and therefore becaming a single mother is coming away form islam. That is not always the case. Some women have no choice but to divorce because their husbands are abusive to her or her kids. Sometimes its a last result. Allah wouldn't want us as women to suffer when we don't have to. u have to remember that women don't choose to be in hard situations because they want to be more western but as neccessatiy for the wellbeing of their children