Originally posted by *Diamante*: has anyone solved the great mystery around Velvet's avatar?? maybe she has a facination with feet? but really i love your avatar very creative! its the new fashion trend; shoes on everything.

Originally posted by Haddad: No, you got it wrong. It's not one includes Secularism ; it's one is divine, the other is human. Exactly what is your point here? that something divine and something human can't coexist? and how does this pretain to the topic of Islam and Democracies supposed incompatibility? just trying to clarify here.

Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: I am talking about Dhagaxtuur, the great Somali hero who fought against the colony. I would like to help his family. Not only do I want to help Dhagaxtuur's family, but I want to make sure that I marry one of his great granddaughters for the benefit of my people, because I am from the family of one great somali hero. Though I don't exactly know which somali hero I descended, but I heard my uncle saying one time that we are the greatest people in the horn. I think I am a hero, as well. But I worry about my future children, because I am afraid if I marry a girl from non-hero family, the possibility is that my kids could end up being cowards. Who wants a coward child in this dangerous world! Come on guys, help me out here. Where are the family of Dhagaxtuur? I need to find them soon. If you lead me to the family of DHAGAXTUUR, I will offer you a great reward. Five-thousand U.S. dollars! This is the quest to appreciate the heroes of our sociaty and become part of their family members to streghten the future of our children. Marrying for the blood of a hero is the ticket to a successful begining of the future. this is a joke right?

^true! it would be nice to understand what songs we hum and sing to So come nerds! start translating!

cool idea but that would require a mastery of the language something ill admit needs to be polished.

Caveman so one reason you think Democracy and Islam are uncomptaible and contradictory is because one includes Secularism? Cannot one practice Democracy without secularism? i think it is possible to infuse religion into the state, both can be harmonies in the Government especially among muslims who don't see a problem with that anyway. i think this ideolagy and our own religion can be compatible if we be a little innovative with it. Keep the same ground rules but make it adapt to Islam.( for ex. making mosque and state stand side by side) and if Democracy is bad for islam, what other ideal systems of Gov't are good for it?

Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: Brother Nur, I their position change from the current arrogant stage they are obbssesed in. . But one thing I know of my personality is that I can't bear with a Somali girl having an affair with a non-somalian. This is not us, this is almost against anything we hold dear, in terms of our culture. what do you mean arrogant stage? Although its best to marry your kind, it is sometimes hard to find them. So what other choice do you have if you can't find the right somali but there are plenty of nice non-somalis? become a celibate?

Originally posted by The Rendezvous: Juba, Who? :confused: uh whats your point? and i wasn't jumping to conclusions just going along with the joke! if thats what everyone is saying then im going to accept it as it is. So calm down i could care less really if you want to marry ur NINTH wife!

^ uh... ill take that as a yes. while it is your opinion and your entitled to that how could you kill your own daughter because shes not a virgin. Are there not better ways of handeling it? does she not already have to deal with the consequenses? and what if she is not a virgin as a result of rape? its just morally wrong and their are always other alternatives.

so let me get this straight...you practice polygamy or atleast want to?

Originally posted by Haddad: Could be, it depends on one's perspective. There are over 1 billion Muslims, and there are at least 10 million Muslims (comparable to Somalia's population, also among Somalis) who would agree with what the father of this article did. are you among those 10 million?

^ thanx alot nuune much appreciated!

^ like what?

sorry for not contributing nuune but does anyone know the liyrics to the qaraami song Shimbir heysaa song by Mogol??

lets not turn this in to a whose right and whose wrong thing. We seem to be forgetting the moral. The man was wrong for video tapping and taking advantage of women, the women was wrong for beliveing. i don't know about them murder part, it seemd he serioulsy deserved it.

Originally posted by Xafsa: ]What would make a parent kill their own child?!!! plain insanity

sorry but i don't get what this topic is about? anal sex and why its haram or sex in general in islam???

Originally posted by QUANTUM LEAP: The Peculiar Nature of Somali Society Somalia is not a ‘country’ like any other. And in many ways, it is neither ‘African’ nor ‘Arab’, although it is located on the African continent and has often been considered ‘Arab’ in some ways. In 1974, Somalia joined the Arab League of which it is still formally a member. The Somali people, or the Somali nation, is an unquestionable reality. But the Somali state is a much more ambiguous notion which has for the "neither african or arab" are you serious?! i believe Somalia is an AFRICAN nation therefore african in origin. i don't know who came up with this arab nonsense, just my opinion

Originally posted by Suldaanka: India I am sure you will enjoy your stay... Muad, As far as Somalis go, it is the "Badda Cas" I've seen people call us that we are in the Horn of Africa, some others say we are in East Africa or Subsaharan Africa while others beileve that we are part of Arabia... confusing, if you ask me. Just, imagine how someone will have trouble trying to locate his own country under so many groupings and names. pple actually beileve we are part of Arabia!!! wow they seriously need to get their geography lessons. i think we should stick to Horn of Africa, its sounds exotic BTW, amazing pics Suldaanka its nice to see Somalia's beutiful crystal clear oceans

Originally posted by *Chauvinist*: ^lol. Go back to that topic and you will see what i said. The men were compassionate becoz the woman started 'complaining' about how she sacrifices and crap like that when the men started clapping(out of compassion), Mise, you didnt get joke and you were being a typical woman?(jumping to conclusions) can anyone say split personality? but back to the "topic" that is a typical interprataion of a man , always trying to put themselves in the better light :rolleyes:

^this is almost a 360 degree turn from u, its like im talking to a different person here! what happend to the male feminist we knew so well in "living in girlfreind" topic? and how were the men compassionate? :confused:

what a horrible tale! these people are crazed over the virginity thing that they even suspect a pre adolescent!!! virgin or not no one deserves to die like that

ofcourse the men started clapping what else would you expect from such egotistical and selfish creatures? only concerned of their own survival

more disgusting than funny really

some very beutiful pics FF and good articles, definantly worth the read Wiilo, what a ingenious contraption the aqal is!