Narc-sis..u are right, even following our religion-it's SUNNA & not compulsory. X-quizit sis-you might put the blame on the ladies for CARRYING out the act-but its the MEN who ENFORCE & SUPPORT this horrandeous/barbaric act-especially the PHARAONIC TYPE-or Cliteriodectomy as we know it(friggin' SEXISTS & PATRIOCHIAL). An uncircumsized somali woman would receive scurrilous attacks-and worst of all RUIN her chances of getting to married to a (B*****)/uneducated somali dude-if her parents do not perform the cruel act. Mansha-allah, its our mothers that stand against this act-because they have been through it and are leaning on changing the "norms" that surround this act. The fathers' are really ignorant about this issue unless they are learned and educated about the consequences of such an act(whether its thru' formal/informal education-thru' religion-books,experiences etc). How can it be changed=when men start condoning such barbaric acts by either preaching in Masjids, health centers, familial gatherings..because IT'S THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM-Jiini waxii keena bixiya.. Our mothers/gals can fight as long as it wants-but the noise is unheard compared to a man's power. (Plz, Iam not saying that females have less power or noise,but this is the case in a patriachial society).

Garaab T..shiiqa aaba kahelaaba ma'istiri...

LST and Nuune, you got problemo' with the flag..Shujui thx for revolution...I guess this month is Kenyan Flags..Get w/the program. LST-met 99% of folks in this site-walaahi you are one smooth-operator. Me like to meet:- Girls DnD-aka Bee-keep up the galpower Ameenah-send me some English tea Tamina-where are u gal? Opi-aka 'good' advocate-will u be my lawyer? Sade-niaje dada *I hate choosin..but all the gals here are really fantabolus and very positive-keep it up. Guys-xxxmmm! wa dambi But what happened to MMA?(Mzee kalulu )

lool-Jamaal..walaahi hawa karao wamenyonya wasomali & anything that resembles them-they stopped me once as well and almost arrested me :rolleyes: -dang Karao!

Unaweza gujitetea? Gitu gani hii? Ati fifty bob Hata haiwezi gununua jwing gum Toa besa gijana Eh! Fifty bob and Jwing gum -hiyo ni kali.. This must be a Kale(kalenjin). Very funny walaahi..

<--atleast we've got the GREEN, RED, and WHITE matching? But I wonder what they stand for(the colors)? :confused:

For better or worse, w/out public transportation is a big problem economically, physically, and...etc. Poet---have you ever been outside of Minnesota? If you've been to places like LA, NY, DC and so on, you'll learn the importance of public transportation-So I hope the two parties come to a resolution coz its really undermining many important daily tasks(and might lead to long-term consequences). Yes I ride the bus-because U of M has a big issue/problem when it comes to parking and transportation-except around the campus. There are 80,000 people who attend this campus(students, faculty, staff) but only 19,000 parking spaces-so you do the math bro. Nevertheless, if the metro buses resume..you will be let off the hook-don't you think?(A + for you) .

Opi..why the name change? Maybe Iam the only one who hasn't got a makeover yet... Nomad- 2 balls?should I say Mansha-allah or Bismilah! :cool: If a woman is fighting for her right in this patriachial society-does that make her a feminist? I dont think so, its her human right and not an addition or leverage contract here. (For instance, fighting to end the Brutal practices of FGM in countries like Sudan and Somalia). I think the word Feminist is unsymmetrical to how some phrase it (esp. males)under some contexts.

Oops forgot to add the Q.. Prefer a: Reggae or Jazz

lol DnD..you nailed the commercial gal.. Tall & Fat..atleast they can fit my height criteria and we'll work on the weight. .I need someone to play ball with..showty..aint gonna do it for me

POET...I thought the "spoken word" or Sun. Poetry was on a VIP status ..what's the dealyo Kiddin' man..I will check ma family out sometime..but you know how we do at U of M.

And how do these women REPHRASE their wordings once you tell them, why are u using these lighting cremes-perhaps something like this: Oh! its for removing blackheads and such...wow! And have you noticed that those that apply too much of it..have this weird, burnt, freckful face...EEEWWWW! :mad: :eek: Scary indeed! There is no knowledge of dosage, reactivity status(and w/which chemicals can be toxic or dangerous)etc. I AM BROWN & I AM PROUD

If its only 1 choice it would be:-MECCA & MEDINA (insha-allah) . Otherwise, if its worldly- ZANZIBAR & PEMBA -and maybe live there.

Ruun Ka Naxiso..(Truth that hurts/scares). Sijui or mlendo(reer-somalia-I mean somali's post civil war)

DareDevil..you are indeed right..Pearl, the answer is Avra Lev.(that tom-boy teenage)- 719..ah Jamani..I aint no familiar w/Dirty south..babe but If its one ugly some ma bia..its probably O.D.B. (Iam guessing..& I know its wrong). more clues plz..is here new..I was bout lil' John etc.

Ameenah..the answer is Donell Jones..and walaahi, this is really my fav song of the album(the album is the best -espec. 1st 10 songs).,,,I luv it especially when the chorus goes like... Tell me which way did she go? pretty young thing and as cheerful I was so open_______? tell me have you see her, have you see her? Oh! I miss that album. So can one guess this... Oh God! gimme a reason Iam down on bended knees.. I'll never walk again. till you come back to me Iam down on bended knees..

*****eykum Salam sista.. I turned around my life style as well sis, and I can definately atest to your complaints..my advice, drink alot of water.(more than 8 glasses a day)....this will come very easily is make a habit of it..or work-out. Also, I am speculating that you might be zinc-deficient and therefore, need to eat alot of green, leafy vegis to restore some of the nutrients lost. I don't think performing oblution is a major factor, but the reasons above and some other underlying anatomical/visceral problems might be the mighter contributors here. Nevertheless, another tip, is use AV0CADO-buy a fruity one, mash it to smooth texture while removing the roots and such, then apply it to your hair every other weekend or whenever you've got time. I hope this works for you. Your sis, Raula

In every post that I come across, there is always mid sexually frustrated ah, trying vent out his problems to the gals in the posts-comments in regards to shukansi...wale walaiskuwarere... I love the school atmosphere...no wonder i keep coming back alwayz...it seems like a hyena's feast out there in the real world, scary . school is alwayz fun once I see that maroon check and bank account glazing with them dollarz ..ohh..the future looks good for me..what are you guyz complaining about...l ol..Iam dreaming big time

In every post that I come across, there is always mid sexually frustrated ah, trying vent out his problems to the gals in the posts-comments in regards to shukansi...wale walaiskuwarere... I love the school atmosphere...no wonder i keep coming back alwayz...it seems like a hyena's feast out there in the real world, scary . school is alwayz fun once I see that maroon check and bank account glazing with them dollarz ..ohh..the future looks good for me..what are you guyz complaining about...l ol..Iam dreaming big time

From a personal testimonial..like some ladies said it-this subject matter is not easy. I mean, saying that I will pack my bags and leave is not that simple. Hell, even with broken bones, some end up staying. There are many reasons for this phenomena: but one of them can be when a horrandeous act like this becomes a custom(and Iam not generalizing all somalis-but majority)-otherwise know as "cultural norm through internalization"-its hard to erase even the traces. In once a patriachial society, an act of domination can become a cultural norm and be passed to generations. Therefore, because some children might have been exposed to this kind of violence in their childhood, it has become normal part of their family constituents. Moreover, even involving family members can sometimes be pain in the A**-a long tedious and complicated process-which sometimes the women has little say in the decision making. On the other hand, a 'conscious,'man would not beat up his wife with no apparent reason-there has to be a reason that initiates the cycle. Unless a woman/man, understands the intensity and repercussions of such violence, solving such an issue is hard-hence, many end up staying in abusive relationships due to fear of being killed, etc. For those who have been/are in abusive relationships, I hope they have the strengh and courage to get out-or do something about it. The best thing to do is Pray to Allah for the abuser and the abused-both to heel and be able to continue with their lives.

<---- :rolleyes: :confused: Jamaal..is there a simpler, translated version(Laba kwa kilughaa!-SAWAAXILI

OK..change of subject here:-here is my observations..(not really,generalization)! Why is it that Somali guyz prefer 'other' women than somali ladies (especially, whites)? Nevertheless, those guyz who have been with a white woman in the beginning, alwayz brag about what the white woman can do incontrast to the somali girl. Also, many of the somali youth(men)have eroded from their culture,DEEN and family values by entrusting themselves into Clubbing, dressing like the 'ghetto-fab,' dating 'other' ethnicities and so on. Don't they realize that they are jeopardizing their backgrounds? I suggest then, they need to be taken back to Somalia and given a lesson of "how to acculturate in western societies without falling off the edge=101". Disclaimer! this is not my perpective/perception, but hopefully one can spot the generalization/narrow-bended ideology that is depicted in paragraph. This is exactly what the 'poster' of this topic has been emphasizing-only to somali women though. I have also noticed, that GARAB TUJIYE(weird!) always adds 'offending sarcasm' (I actually think its insulting-CAY sometimes) at the end of his posts? and you call yourself a muslim? (what a wonder!) DnD..your post about 'what if we call somali guys this and that' really hit the point---but QQ (pessimistic in some way) hardly noticed the generalization.

Somalian FIRST DATE: you get to take her and her 3 of her friends out to dinner(after waiting an hour downstairs-public housing) SECOND DATE: You go to a movie @ the Mall of America and shopping as well-snicking! but ALAS! you meet her uncle! THIRD DATE: You get a pec on the cheek FOURTH DATE: you go to a somali party-but claims that you 2 can't be seen with each other. 1yr ANNIVERSARY: She is having the 2nd baby and grew hell of ARAAJO. Disclaimer* this is just a joke..plz don't label me now..

719...bro. u cracked me up....(ribs cracking!!) Mmmmxxxxxxxxh!!! balaya kadacdey..!!! :eek:

OP..my mailbox is open now..sorry for the inconvenience dear.