Diamante-thx now I get it. Meenah Coming back to your question who is to blame; I think mothers, older sisters have a direct impact on a young girls perception of beauty. They pass on notion of what makes one beautiful and how-to get there. We in turn; put these ideas into play as we get older and so you get many sisters bleaching their skin or deliberately using the wrong shade of foundation just so that they don't fall into the ‘doqon iyo habeen baa madaw’ category. good pointers there but from my perception BLAMING only mothers and older siblings(especially sisters) is utterly wrong. In my opinion, if a young gal insists on bleaching her skin or toning down to look more like the sorrounding races-its not only due to low self esteem but also due to "INTERNALIZED RACISM." Hence, many somali or dark shade gals are bleaching their skins and dieting because the norm is that the "whiter and skinner one is the sexier she is"..or will be appealing and therefore considered normal in such society. On another note, low self esteem, not knowledgeable about health consequences of dieting and skin bleaching (or cosmetics in general), conflicting cultural and acculturation (or adopted land) values and norms, are leading to volatile health detriments among somalis living in the west. For instance, since many of us have no concept of "healthy eating and exercise" we then rely on most genetics(where many somali sisters are naturally slender) to BAIL us out-which is not the case in the west; since the lurking variables such as fresh foods, climatical conditions, genetics, no in-between meals, and hard work/labor that contributed to low cardiovascular and diet related disorders back in somalia or Africa. Whereas in the west its the opposite-if you dont exercise and eat healthy-an individual escalates his/her chances of developing a diet-related disease. Therefore, not only mothers, older siblings that contribute to stereotype, but other factors such as internalized racism, cultural misconceptions, psychological aspects(low self esteem), and lifestyle choices. RAULA.

alla magaacyaasha xaafadaha foolxumaa-maxaa suuqa xoolaha iyo makiinada baastada isku keene :eek: . Mansha la yiri makiinada cajiinka ey airboorka kuutaale I guess I shouldn't be suprised once I see geel oo airboorka daaqayaan kidding. Is there xafaad ya yiraahdo Hodan :confused: that's where my family resided N'wayz.

^^^Wiilo thx for bringing this up-iam in the process of writing a commentary regarding that issue raised by the Somali students here-Yes I am glad I was at the seminar as well. Insha-allah once Iam done I will be happy to share it with you guyz. On the side: Prof. Warfaa (who is a biologist as well as research scientist currently) did mention that Qaad has 28 :eek: drug chemical components; compared to Tobacco, coffee, cola, coca to mention a few of recreational 'drugs'-that only contain one. Think about it. Nice read Wiilo, Caaqil and Alle-ubaahne.

Originally posted by BOB: Everybody I know says that I look like Idi Amin Dada's cousin and I once had a Somali Girl turn me down because she said "Uuff,You're Not Somali" and she almost beat the heck out of me with her Dacas then there was this Sudanese guy asking me if I am from South of Sudan and later on when we got to know each other he started to tease me and say that he looks more Somali than me that bothered me a whole lot so i started speaking Somali to him and all he could say was "What? What? What? Speak English Man, Come On" then i got up and said to him "Don't you ever say that you are more Somali than me Mother Sucker, You bloody John Grang and Alek Wek look alike" And that is my story Ladies & Gentlemen... Peace, Love & Unity. <-------the last part..was exceedingly comical ati John Grang and Alek Wek..loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.wwalaahi we uliachiliwa from MATHARE MENTAL haisomarin madhow..xaal qaado. The sudanese thing sounds like my signature (jezuz..kaa we mweusi vile. :eek: )

Life is a vicious cycle Like PMS Praying is like a Midol oh I can feel your pain gal Nice work Ms Word and BOB. fear not what u see fear what u can't vision I sense the future I can see the horizon but I dont see the reason reason to gaze out reason to fuel my thoughts on the gloom on this corrosive world of reign I regain my composure I regain my conscious I regain my consensus I consent that my future My future is bright I have to reach that light To avoid my own plight

^^^yeah not pleasing to watch-I watched it too. Yes we kicked some serious Bizz' baby-its all gravy Join the band wagon now-and welcome to purple Fever zone its all about the afro now

^^^^w/c back dude yeah funny shiznet..man..lol@runaway brides.

Originally posted by The Paradigm: >>>>>One BOB in sheng means One Penny<<<<< Very Cheap Shukaansi.Period!!!!!! hehehehehehehehe..kweli yako kabisa. Mapenzi ya peni mbili na malaika mwenywe yuko mbiguni labda salaaaaaala wenda itaisha lini

"by the way did I tell you that my Mom is also called ......?" says Faarax. "you are kidding right?" asks Xaliimo with an excitement. "nope, I am dead serious, in fact you two also share not only names but something far more deeper" replies Faarax. "Oh, that is wonderful to hear, I never knew that, would you like to have something to drink Faarax?" asks Xaliimo. wow..smooth Operator I say

hehehe@Ugaali crackers yeah who is laughing now wiilo here we come philly

^^^mucho grasias senor' appreciated.

^^^flip-flopping fanatic kidding. Playmaker-yes, bring xilib ari, KK, some xalwa plus federeeshen-yes we gonna do it somali style Wiilo-I will spare you this time, but atleast bring some salsa for the doritos

As I prepare to dive In this vast sea world I hope to find some Friendly fish Some corals Some oysters to extract that special Jewel inside A pearl Just one pearl The one best fit For me The water is clear But the sea is not It is full of wrecks A testament to an imbalance My coach advices “Your are on your own, the sea is at rage†I overlook and lunge to the deep blue waters In hopes of finding that friendly fish that pearl that jewel that when I wear Satisfies Signifies Soothes I went scuba diving Or maybe My mind is just hypnotized

At least 6 feet tall Smells “fresh to death†Nice Build the height is extremely crucial in my part mucho gracious and yes tha's all I NEED

Walaalayal-Iam seriously confused and has never been so upbeat about the everchanging somali politics-so I need your help. What is this presidency about? I thought we had one before? What is the difference between this and the one from last year? (A.Yusuf's) Is this some kind of regional govt? :confused: :confused: can someone help me understand? thx.

Although somali is my mothertongue-I didn't start utilizing it till ~8yrs ago. Alxamdulilah now Iam able to communicate better. Here is piece I just wrote while exchanging words [with a friend here in SOL]regarding Somali politics. Enjoy. Originally posted by raula: hooy maxaad halagamte haraad iyo habarnimaadii hurdo isku diidee adoo sidii harag harmcad hagoogsan hirig hirig iyo habeen madow hadba hallaag uu hagarbaxdee halaanhaal iyo heelo uu heeste uu hiiliise hoog ogaayaashii hadhowto baad hogii hanaadey haa hilmaamin hoyaanimo iyo haweenimo uu horseed uu horkac hunguriga yuuna kuso hoorin qabqabla yashaan halaagsan horyaalnimo iyo horsocosho midna hubiin ha isku haraadin huuno lights out **wears her SIJUI jacket and exits Broadway** distant staccato SOOKAL(r'member this shoes back in somalia)footsteps heard-qac qac dac dac.

Originally posted by Wilo: ..........I bet raula ma uusan soo marid jaaniskaas oo ayada waxay ku soo kortay "Mukaati iyo Buluubaan" Go figure:..........b] hehehehe..Wiilo adoo baatigaaga qabo subax kaso maku arki jirin adoo donanaayo BLUEBAND iyo caanaha GOLDCROWN? mise KCC bey aheed Mukaati baad ka qeylinee, alow yaa kugeeyo campka xagar dheer-galeey iyo masago yellow-ah kabuuxdo dhiqle aa lugu qulaamin lahaa wale Mukaati beel

hooy maxaad halagamte haraad iyo habarnimaadii hurdo isku diidee adoo sidii harag harmcad hagoogsan hirig hirig iyo habeen madow hadba hallaag uu hagarbaxdee halaanhaal iyo heelo uu heeste uu hiiliise hoog ogaayaashii hadhowto baad hogii hanaadey haa hilmaamin hoyaanimo iyo haweenimo uu horseed uu horkac hunguriga yuuna kuso hoorin qabqabla yashaan halaagsan horyaalnimo iyo horsocosho midna hubiin ha isku haraadin huuno lights out**wears her SIJUI jacket and exits Broadway** distant staccato SOOKAL(r'member this shoes back in somalia)footsteps heard-qac qac dac dac.

^^^^ u jealous coz I come in different BRANDS suug bal waxbaan soo wadaaye.

^^spot on gal-men are from Mars, Somali politically inclined men are from PLUTO

there is a proverb in swahili that says "Nyaani haoni MKUNDULE" ala soomalidu faraahooda dhaadheera . OG_gal U feel me cuz

Originally posted by Caaqil: .....But that is not my point! My point is the long term consequences and how the soo dhiib concept is abused; and how it is spreading to somali inhabited regions that did not have this culture. As Simply the Best said-Longterm consequence can be being rewarded for fulfilling a religious duty {Sadaqa} Period. yara Yara about political, social and economical boosts the monetary aid has provided but most of all-its your duty as a muslim. Still I concur with all your inputs-however, we need sometimes not to amalgamate issues with western{economically-efficient, Ideal, pragmatic etc} philosophies. Nevertheless, the money has been channelled sometimes to those who dont need it-but all in all its still EVERY MUSLIMS DUTY TO SUPPORT HIS/HER BROTHER/SISTER IN NEED. Ma'salama.

^^^..."kuurska geel..." kuudar,iyo subaag idaad siiba since many somalis have QOORMAALEY/BAABASIIR

gets dizzy with all this VIKING BLUEZ Iam tailgating at my crib for the Sunday's game-fans are welcome as well us 'uninvited' guests

Its not rocket science; even though I live in NOMAD/MALI MAYHEM I say KENYA has the most population of somalis outside their original quarters