peepz, does anyone know what distances they are running and when? I can't find anything on the official olympic page - thanks

^Cara, don't forget the duck-tape, and as infinitely useful as burnt toast and lumpy dental floss are, surely they make better compost than conductors xiin's point still holds tough it implicitly involves two different and related issues - the personal and the social. I think it would be very difficult to argue that the rulers of a society are unaware of the responsibility attached to their rule - regardless of popular norms this leads me to [a preaching] anecdote a friend told me about the difficulty of political accountability in kenya. In effect the decent people don't get democratic positions easily because people arn't inspired by their lead. Instead the flash thief that is known to spend the development money on wives and bmw's is the local hero. and this is not limited to kenya, millionaire evangelist preachers on US cable tv are driven by the same intensives. showing god has blesses with the pulpit contribution paid for beemers attracts more pulpit contributions. we could forever argue about time and this is the most common reason put forward by corrupt system, in the favourite "we are still new to [name cause here]", but if i understand it properly the kind of core issues mentioned are not those that require phasing in. On the contrary every one knows what is intrinsically fair/right. Going against it creates a positive feedback loop, since if each person knows every one else cheating the system, they have no personal incentive to abide by it. -almost enough with my preaching

^^ i'm just moonlighting here, i'm due in the diary room any time now, it's a secret, Davina does not tell you that we have internet access at the house Originally posted by Gheelle.T: CG, you raise a good question brother. How do you indeed enforce or change a social norm? How do you tell some1 to use a hygiene products for instant(deodorant, perfume, or cologne)? with out provocations or hurting his/her feelings? How can you change all those bad manners, skipping que to way to talk to people?...I think it has to start from home and slowly go place to place... 'ello. i don't know if there is a sure proof way, but notions of shame, guilt and etc .. are societies general methods of enforcing collective norms.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: You travel from Nairobi to Garisa, and one the remarkable alerts that indicates you entered Somali territory is the rubbish you see in the streets. The poor Kenyans have their little villages clean adeer...why? I was told the same thing in Boosaaso and Xamar. Why? I don't think that your being idealistic and you bring up a very interesting issue. In truth you don't need to travel to Boosaaso to see the worst in our life styles ... as any londoners who have seen kentish town's marfiish mafia could testify what you bring up here are cultural norms, that take time and willingness to build from moral to personal nadaafad- we would do well to look around. Interestingly xiin how compelled do you feel to enforce social norms, i.e. do you always play by the book?

^^ i told you not go around reading things!

when you children get over your penis giggles, it's worth noting the seriousness of the situation. If condoms are too big, the men wont wear them, then disease and unwanted pregnancies ensue. condoms have to be targeted to a demographic population

the bad: being on facebook

didn't realise there was a competition/race ?!?

populists won because muslims gave them the ammunition and handed them the game... The film is clearly designed to provoke such a reaction, it informs/educates/entertains no one.. but when muslims start acting like mindless hoarders in response to a political move expect more cra-p like this to made. The best possible reaction to it would of been complete ambivalence and disregard

libaax, note that ibti is volunteering for baby sitting duties ... ! zafir just call him big-poppa from here on ngonge are you hinting? serenity i will let that dig at my honour pass this one time only! [edit] libaax Tigger *not* baby .. again, since this is your first err, it will be allowed to pass

nephyth.. what what what woman what! ngogne, man don't let the lack of imagination stifle you

peepz and peepetz -- I have the greatest news to report to you. Our dear and beloved Libaax-Sankataabte has done infinitely better than his usual lion antics and has become the proud father of a wonderful and beautiful (thankfully she takes after her mother) baby girl -- known here on as Tigger. Tigger is in great health and bringing all the joys in the world to the family and I hear that she has already taken a leaf from daddies book and is practising her jab-grab-and-attempt-to-roll-away-quickly. So dear friends, please join me in wishing all the happiness in the world to this young family and say a prayer for all their healths, well being and happiness. and please fill these pages with your congratulations Image reconstructed based on literal description of young Tigger

marcus, please stop with the crude vituperates. I'm sure that they are all in jest and no one takes them seriously but such repetitive and boorish improprieties pollute the eyes of our dear readers.

cara, your asking for it now!! marc, i wanna be an axis/on the rhombus, this is just so unfair .. what do you have to do .. haven't i done enough?

Black Guy Asks Nation For Change The Onion, March 19, 2008 CHICAGO—According to witnesses, a loud black man approached a crowd of some 4,000 strangers in downtown Chicago Tuesday and made repeated demands for change. "The time for change is now," said the black guy, yelling at everyone within earshot for 20 straight minutes, practically begging America for change. "The need for change is stronger and more urgent than ever before. And only you—the people standing here today, and indeed all the people of this great nation—only you can deliver this change." It is estimated that, to date, the black man has asked every single person in the United States for change. "I've already seen this guy four times today," Chicago-area ad salesman Blake Gordon said. "Every time, it's the same exact spiel. 'I need change.' 'I want change.' Why's he so eager for all this change? What's he going to do with it, anyway?" After his initial requests for change, the black man rambled nonstop on a variety of unrelated topics, calling for affordable health care, demanding that the government immediately begin withdrawing troops from Iraq, and proposing a $75 billion economic stimulus plan to create new jobs. "What a wacko," Schaumburg, IL resident Patrick Morledge said. "And, of course, after telling us all about how he had the ability to magically fix everything, he went right back to asking for change. Typical." "If he's really looking for change, he's got the wrong guy," Morledge added. Reports indicate that the black man has been riding from city to city across the country, asking for change wherever he goes. Citizens in Austin, TX said they spotted the same guy standing on the street Friday, shouting far-fetched ideas about global warming. Cleveland residents also reported seeing him in a local park, wildly gesticulating and quoting from the Bible. And last week, patrons at the Starlight Diner in Cheyenne, WY claimed that the black man accosted them while they were eating, repeatedly requesting change. "I saw him walk in and I knew he was headed straight for our table," said mother of three Gladys Davies. "He just stood there smiling at us for a while, and asked how our food tasted. Then he went and did the same thing at the next table over. The nerve of some people." Those who encountered the black man Tuesday said he engaged in erratic behavior, including pointing at random people in the crowd and desperately saying he needs their help, going up to complete strangers and hugging them, and angrily claiming that he is not looking for just a little bit of change, but rather a great deal of change, and that he wants it "right now." "I'll be honest, when that black guy said he would 'stop at nothing' to get change, it kind of scared me," local mechanic Phil Nighbert said. "Just leave me alone." Though many were taken aback by the black man's brazen demands, some, such as Jackson, MS's Holly Moser, sympathized with him. She gave the black man credit for boldly standing up and asking every last person around him for change. "I told him I'd give him some if I saw him later, even though I probably won't," Moser said. "Very nice man, though." Most, however, ignored his requests. "I'm a hardworking American who pays his taxes, and the last thing I need is some guy on the street demanding change from me," said William Overkamp, a Springfield, IL gun-shop owner. He added, "What he really needs is a job."

Morality, justice and women's rights: a portrait of Islam for the 21st century Suna Erdem in Istanbul, February 27, 2008 Turkey's highest religious authority is preparing to publish a groundbreaking guide to Islam for the modern world, putting the words of the Prophet Muhammad into context for a sweeping reinterpretation of the religion. The Presidency of Religious Affairs in this Muslim, but strongly secular, country has commissioned a thorough review of the sayings of the Prophet, or the Hadith, which constitute the second most sacred text in the religion after the Koran. “The project takes its inspiration from the interpretations of the modernist vein of Islam,” Professor Mehmet Gormez, vice-president of religious affairs and senior Hadith lecturer at Ankara University, told The Times. “This gets obscured by modern clichés but reinterpretation is actually part of the basic fabric of Islam.” He said that one of the aims was to separate the religion from the traditionalist cultural elements that have long hampered a true vision of Islam. The Hadith guide, to be published as a book this year, would make it much more difficult to justify extreme, misogynistic and violent interpretations of Islam, Professor Gormez said. “We want to bring out the positive side of Islam — that promotes personal honour, human rights, justice, morality, women's rights, respect for the other,” he said. He added that nobody should expect revolutionary new thinking on the issue of women covering their hair in the Muslim manner, for instance. “This is an academic study — one thing you will not see is an attempt to make Islam look cute for the Western world.” The project is a fitting example of how Turkey — a Nato member and European Union candidate run by a pragmatic, free-market-loving government of former political Islamists — has quietly become a laboratory for reinterpreting Islam over the years. Touching on subjects such as women, morals, prayer and Man's relationship to nature, the thousands of Hadith are provided with a context to demonstrate whether they have relevance for today's Muslims, a move unlikely to find favour with hardline “literalists” who believe that the Prophet's 7th-century sayings are a cast-iron guide to life. “Our aim is to present the intentions of the Prophet Muhammad to the people of today in a language they can understand,” Yavuz Unal, who leads the Ankara-based Hadith Project, said. “All the theology professors in Turkey have been invited to contribute and we are talking about 162,000 hadith in existence.” While many sections — including some on women — have yet to be finalised, the more than 10,000 Hadith selected are expected to include sayings showing that religious conversion was tolerated and that its punishment was an irrelevant political sanction. Another Hadith prohibiting women from travelling for more than three days without their husbands, for instance, would be included but with the context that this referred to travelling in caravans of camels or donkeys and was more of a security issue for the time. “Clearly that would not apply to modern travel,” Dr Unal said. While the Justice and Development Party of the Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan — which was created as a conservative group by moderate Islamists, social liberals and economists — concentrates on issues such as the economy and joining the EU, other institutions and Turkish society are changing the way Islam is lived. Having long ago separated its dislike of usury from the pursuit of business profit, a large group of devout businessmen have made themselves an important force in the growth of Turkey as an emerging markets financial powerhouse. In tandem an Islamic bourgeoisie has been created in recent years, leading to a fundamental shift in a secular society where previously a Western-looking, strongly secularist elite, backed by the military, was the only dominant force. A feminisation of the male-dominated world of Islamic preachers is also taking place with the appointment of women vaize, or senior imams, who appeal directly to women and condemn tradition-based practices such as the “honour killing” of women. “There is a big misunderstanding in the West of Islam as simply an Arab religion, and Turkish scholarship can become overlooked. Yet for the understanding of Islam, Turkey is an incredible laboratory,” Taha Akyol, a political commentator, said. “A revolution is taking place here. In other countries you have reform of Islam pushed through by despotic or modernist regimes but in Turkey you are seeing the reform taking place in the middle classes. And that is real reform.”

come on people your letting yourselves down. whats wrong, i was certain some one would relate the quake to the broadcasting of that show!

ibti ibti ibti ... since i don't normally need reassurance for this type of think, i'll let your slur there pass -- and no i didnt hide, i faced up to it like a real man and wobbled on my back

aah here is the topic .. the earth moved for me

I felt it last night at about 1am .. anyone else?! ----- Britain shaken, but not too stirred, by earthquake Property owners were out this morning assessing the damage to their homes and businesses after Britain suffered its biggest earthquake in over two decades. The tremor, measuring 5.2 on the Richter scale and with its focus 3.1 miles (5km) below the Lincolnshire town of Market Rasen, struck at 12.56am. It was felt from southern Scotland to the south coast of England, and from East Anglia to Wales, with tremors lasting for up to a minute that sent walls vibrating, chimneys shaking, furniture moving, paperwork tumbling and ornaments rattling on shelves. The only definite report of injury was of David Nates, a 19-year-old student in Wombwell, Barnsley, who suffered a suspected fractured pelvis when part of the roof masonry fell through the ceiling of his attic bedroom and landed on his legs as he watched TV. His parents were also in the house, but were unhurt. His father said today: “Of all the things that can happen - an earthquake. I could not believe it but when I think about it, it could have been worse.” A spokeswoman for South Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service said that "some sort of fancy stonework" had become dislodged. In Birmingham a 31-year-old pregnant woman suffered a panic attack, but did not need hospital treatment. But emergency services were inundated with calls from puzzled and frightened people woken from sleep by the quake. This morning they were still dealing with minor damage caused by the earth movement. Police in the Midlands received more than 5,000 calls in an hour and in Dudley 12 people walked into the police station in their pyjamas. In many places people were anxious enough to leave their houses. Ken Bridger, Market Rasen, wrote in a comment on Times Online: "I was woken at about 1am with a violent shudder, the house seem to be moving from side to side and the mirror rattling against the wall. "I knew it was an earthquake due to the sheer movement that had taken place. I got dressed and went outside, there were people out of their houses along the main street." Reverend Michael Cartwright, the vicar of Market Rasen, said that a stone cross had fallen from St Thomas’s Church and hit part of the building’s roof, dislodging tiles, before smashing on the ground. “It felt like a bomb had gone off. I woke up screaming and my son was screaming, so we got the children in bed with us. I have never been so scared in my life.” Reverend Michael Cartwright, the vicar of Market Rasen, said that a stone cross had fallen from St Thomas’s Church and hit part of the building’s roof, dislodging tiles, before smashing on the ground. The Rev Cartwright said: “Fortunately for us, it did not actually go through the roof. Obviously, the earthquake has given us some slippage with the tiles as well, but we have been very, very lucky.” The repair bill is expected to exceed £10,000, but the clergyman said he was confident that the grade-II* listed, medieval church was insured against acts of God. A spokesman for Humberside Fire and Rescue Service said that its own headquarters building had been rocked by the quake, but despite their own fear staff had continued to give reassurance and advice to about 200 worried 999 callers. “We’ve still got some active incidents as daylight has come and people have seen the damage," said the spokesman. “People are waking up and going to work and finding bits have been displaced on chimney stacks or garden walls.” Most of the incidents crews responded to overnight involved collapsed chimneys and dangerous roofs. The spokesman said the worst-hit area appeared to be Grimsby, North East Lincolnshire, but other areas affected included Cleethorpes, Goole, Bridlington and Hull. In South Yorkshire fire crews attended 13 incidents after reports of collapsed and dangerous chimney stacks. Staff gave advice to another 25 callers, mostly in Rotherham, Barnsley and Doncaster. In Bedworth, Warwickshire, there was a report of scaffolding falling down in the quake. Police in many counties reported a busy night. In Norfolk, the computer monitors in the force control room shook as staff dealt with more than 100 emergency calls. In Wiltshire, police said the pictures on the walls swung to and fro, as around 15 people called 999. In West Midlands there were 200 or more 999 calls, and Cambridgeshire said that it had over 200 emergency and non-emergency calls. No damage was reported. The tremors were felt as far north as Dumfries and Galloway, where at least one puzzled woman rang to ask the police what was happening. Police in Kent, Suffolk, Lincolnshire, Essex, Hampshire, Dorset and South Wales also reported having to reassure nervous residents. The British Geographical Survey (BGS) said that the centre of the quake was about five miles (8km) east of Market Rasen. At 5.2 on the Richter scale it was the largest tremor to affect Britain since an earthquake measuring 5.4 shook the Lleyn peninsula in North Wales in 1984. The largest earthquake recorded in Britain had a magnitude of 6.1 and struck offshore in the North Sea on June 7, 1931, about 75 miles northeast of Great Yarmouth. The country experiences a magnitude 5 earthquake on average every ten years. A magnitude 4 earthquake occurs on average every two to three years. The BGS said it records around 200 earthquakes in the UK each year, an eighth of which can be felt. It said earthquakes of this size occur in the mainland UK around every 30 years but are more common in offshore areas. Glenn Ford, a senior BGS seismologist, said: “It’s an extremely large earthquake in UK terms but not large in world terms; we’d classify it only as a light earthquake." Homeowners should be covered for the cost of any damage caused by the earthquake, insurers said today. Malcolm Tarling, spokesman for the Association of British Insurers, said: “It is a pretty scary event but will not be a major incident for insurers. Damage appears to be limited at this stage.” Structural damage would be covered by buildings insurance, while contents insurance would cover the cost to broken items in the home, he said. Any damage caused to vehicles by falling tiles and chimney pots would be covered if the owner had fully comprehensive car insurance.

the latest on the bbc is that they've banned the internet, to preserve the modesty and from save offence

nowhere near as good as this dexter

i don't really see the problem, we give each other nicknames, and we are different people in different circumstances anyhow. SO there is something to being comfortable enough with your self to feel ok and not be lost by an adaptable personality

pan fried liver with peppers, onions main ingredients: all the above and garlic chilli a little ground cumin garnish: handful coriander leaves a slice of lime chop and fry everything add the garnish when done, goes nicely with canjeero and if you like me can't make it, a crispy french loaf -- enjoy

shehehehheehhe, you should be thanking me for all the exercise, we all remember what you were like before!!!! Ibtisam, but you said you liked the "wired as*s things"