Jamaal, more to the point can you provide me with any strong economy in the African continent which can be said to have a progressive economy?, not mouled by corruption, aids, civil war/strive, and further how sustainable is an agricultural based economomy with concidering the competion from the rest of the world, the point is i think it is a circular argument, you need decent agriculture but not as the basis for an economy

devils advocate: I say bomb the whole country to smitherines and untill everybody agrees they are one people with a common intest that can only be fullfiled with the help of one another ---------------------------- war, hated and conflict

p.s. mind the spelling on the last post typed too fast and labtop keyboards are arse..

Jamaal, dont get me wrong i am not trying to say that you dont have a point, but i have heard this argument numerous times, i agree with you that herding/nomadism is not good for the environment, it does lead to desertification, but neither is intensive farming (ddt -which is consequently banned in europe and america but was happily dished out to the third world untill recently-, geneticly enhanced crops -do you want Monsanto controlling what farmers grow?- fertilisers and pesticides -which polute the land, water system and the animals that live on the land- and so on). On top of that intensive farming is the only option if you want to feed a pupulation of millions and growing . however the link between economic prosperity and farming i dont see, most of the worlds population of farmers live in dire poverty (put a search into google for poverty and farmers and see how many horrors you get),its only european and american farmers that do well because they are subsidised by their countries eu and american farm subsidies is a hot economic topic because its against the rules of fair competition in an open market, thus leads the earlier problem of starving farmers (a paradox i know) even worse if we are thinking about in on an environmental level, the world does already produce enough food to feed its population, however its against economic advantages to feed everyone at the expense of all - not high enough profit margins. again the point on the war and fighting over land, why would a fertile crescent be any less attaractive to those seeking power than a patch desert, people fight over the smallest bit of land that contains nothing because they are terretorial animals, which doesnt excuse them, and further i refuse to belief that we're all refugees because people are fighting over land, their fighting for power, land comes with power.

umm, nomadims was not a choice, it was the only viable method of securing a livelyhood in a very harsh environment for a very long, more importantly people are not just onething or the other, i.e. nomads trade with farmers and vise-versa each has its good and bad points and provides services to the other, can you relay on the rains comming nxt year? or can you move 100's of miles with your livestock for rain that may not come in time if at all? -- read 'Guns, Germs and Steel' by Jared Diamond, its about why different cultures devoloped technology polical structures and mainly guns steel and germs (to help them wipe out the other cultures) at different times & rates thus how we have come to the world political/ecomonic status today, its not about somalia but does explain why farming is NOT the answer and why it was not adopted in many parts of the world untill recently.And the relationship between herding and wars ummm, call me stupid but i cant see it. I thought it was greedy, corrupt, degenerate, mass murdering wanna be dictators robbing us of our humanity, dignity, country

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