^^ so who do u think their gonna take down first?

burn 'em all down

Simplicity , thanks for that intersting so how come they are all accredited to Azuria i wonder! .... anyhow did a whois on apan-info.net and this is it Domain Name: APAN-INFO.NET Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com Name Server: DBRU.BR.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET Name Server: DMTU.MT.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK Updated Date: 12-aug-2005 Creation Date: 03-apr-2000 Expiration Date: 03-apr-2006 and traceroute dies somewhere new york - washington bcs2-so-0-0-0.NewYork.savvis.net (204.70.192.121) 131.444ms bcs2-so-4-0-0.Washington.savvis.net (204.70.192.1) dcr2-as1-0.Washington.savvis.net (204.70.192.165) cw-gw.wswdc.ip.att.net (192.205.32.45) 12.122.80.229 (12.122.80.229) tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net (12.122.10.30) tbr2-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.10.42) ar2-p3110.holhi.ip.att.net (12.123.195.29) anyhow its being hosted by some A&T server umm who are they peepz

I make an entrance and its noted, welcome dude

Originally posted by liibaan: Now I may be wrong, but I heard that donating organs shouldn't be done because the soul can feel the pain from the organs getting cut out. yeah i heard of this guy that donated his liver and appartanly his soul was really pained by the experience ...

Originally posted by haruun: Caano geel the minister of religion is responsible for promoting Islamic way of life in the country and confronting un Islamic activities. Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice?

Originally posted by Tukaale: Where is the source? source yes indeed it is fantastic, though i wonder what a "Religion Minister" does? ciid mubaarak

i dont think blood red would be an unreasonable colour.

Originally posted by Mohamoud-Baari: Well, if this is true, then they should learn afkooda-hooyo unless they have a good reason....somalia kuma dhalan is UN-ACCEPTABLE excuse ani xataa kuma dhalan somalia qurbaha ayaana joogey for the last 16 yrs..if Baari could do it, every1 can do it! saaxiib, waa runtaa in ey dadks afkooda hooya bartaan, laakin, qoris/aqris iyo af is malaha. Aqris iyo qoris waxay u baahan yahiin ku-helhelin oo nan dadka babnaaka jooga ayenan laheyn nassibka ey ku helaan. marka, in aad turjintid iyo in kale waxey ku xirantahay qiimaha aad rabtid in aad sartid waxaad qortay.

so u got any idea who/what Azuria is? sice they seem to be creating the data

guys thats fantasic, the truck with the firewood had me in stiches, it was like falling thru a time warp to see it. olol, lol@saudization i think u've provided the deterent picture thanks

^^ the dark side, by a 'decent OS' i gues i'm baised for the linux/unix/bsd based systems. I dont argue that you can play your latest video-game and the next generation quadruble buffered 2ghz graphics cards the make you computer hover are supported, but .... they make it easy for you to write the code for them if you wanted Essentailly the underbelly of the OS is more accesible, and the systems are alsways experimental which means u have to spend a bit more time thinking about what the hell you need to do to get this thing working .. consequently learning. As far as programming languages go, these os's are designed for the programmer, rather than the user so more languages, features and headaches thatmight onedayget you out of a tight spot . wrt to job oportunities, first there is always a job for a good programmer (well i hope anyway and i've seen lousy ones get jobs), second if you think of it as a building project, u can be a better architect if you know how bricks behave under different conditions. So having the understanding and competence gives you far more opportunities. bush man, yep your right about the bytecode was trying to highlight the lack of some instrucion set that the os executes. Anyhow i could neva get my head around assembly, would u a write simple tutorial for the thread pls

suldaan, As horn afique said, plate tectonics is so slow that we dont feel it except when a violent jolt happens cos they collide, or move away too quicly and see the volcano or feel the earthquake. but yes one day in the very far future the horn will be an island ..

All the earthquakes that took place in Iran, Indonesia, Turkey and recently Pakistan had all followed after the people of Borama had felt a tremor ^ boys i gotto say, i'm with the old man on this, the rift valley is where the afican and somali plates meet. and Boroma is just about on the fault line coinicidently there is a split in the rift valley that is "... is tearing Africa apart. Eventually, as the rift deepens and widens, surrounding waters will rush in to create a new gulf, or sea, as Somalia breaks away from Africa to form the new Somali Plate. Notice how the small island of Madagascar fits snuggly into the African mainland. " source which would explain why they would feel the earth moving from right under them ..! i guess af few meteorologist should get out there and start measuring then! any how a few pic's and

Originally posted by Eng. Mumin: Hi Captain, Although, it depends your choice and interest, but it is better to understand programming concepts before you begin writing code. You need to understand what an object is, what a class is, how objects and classes are related, and how objects communicate each other. .... ^^ mr dark-side, exactly as the eng. said, when you understand the principles, the choice of a language becomes a convinience. its just a way of expressing the principles.. also try as many different languages as u can. for some problems you want object orient. stuf, in others you need procedural, others functional and so on, so just play with them and you'll understand and learn faster. an example is u guys and java, having mastered the dark arts of pointer manipulation in c++, java is just easy also, if you want to learn to program, i'd say get yourself decent OS that exposes you to variety and lets you experiment easily, its like u're tools of the trade, if you learn on an substantard tool, u cant compete

guys thanks very very very much, Miskiin, thats a fantastic set, keep those web noses scanning for more thanks

no problem eng. stricly speaking, prolog is not a compiler but an engine, i.e. it doesnt produce byte-code. It has a paser that does syntax checking i.e. to see all the terms that you are proposing are valid, but not further. The engine is a theorem prover, and once the statements have been made (the facts and rules) nothing more happens untill a question is asked. When a query is made, it checks whether the proposition in the query is true given the facts about the world and the rules that can be applied to these facts, and it fails by negation - i.e. if its not true then it must be false. technically this is strictly valid. So for example the query about the colour of non-edible fruits. in the example that returned 'red' but we all know that not all red fruits are inedible, but the rules dont state that so we could either go for possibly unsatisfiable (ifinite) loop by trying to determine what we dont know or just fail, and say what can be infered from the data set - this is called failiture by negation. coincidently this is the backbone of classical logic and validation. ie. given a hypothesis, how we check it? well the theory says if you cant disprove it must be true.

Inallilah wa inaillahi Rajiuun, my sincere and deepest condolences for you and your family brother.

hi eng. first i am not very familiar with the .net framework, i've used it to see how to use and but have not developed anything worthwile with it. The reason of c++ is that a lot of the programming i do is not application orientated, it is mainly back end stuff like algorithms. However, i think we have to differentiate between a programming language, i.e. the syntax/semitics it offers and an API. In this context the value of the language is the richness/flexibility of the constructs you can create with it, while an API is more highlevel and valued for the number of commonly-used functions it offers. This distinction is important in many ways. So for example if you've ever written code for a network stack in c/c++ compared to a more API orientated languages like .Net/java/python you'll notice its the difference between writing +500 lines of code compared to ~20 lines calling the API and bit of graphics for fun. However I cant think of another language that is capable of a feature template meta programming in c++ (i.e you code gets executed at compile time, and at runtime u just collect the result). anyhow ... lisp and prolog are declarative* rather than procedural languages . The difference between the two is that: + A procedural language defines solutions, ie. code: class fruit { colour = null; isEdible(); } class apple: public fruit { colour = green; edible = true; } class orange: public fruit { colour = range; edible = true; } class poisonBerry: public fruit { colour = red; edible = false; } so here you've defined a set of fruit objects with their properties and now you want to make use of it. i.e. what colour is an apple, or is a poisonberry edible? and you would do code: colour whatColourIs(fruit) { return fruit.color; } edible isEdible(fruit) { if(fruit.edible) return true; else return false; } .... here u've defined a world and solutions to queries that ppl might pose to its content + A declarative language however doesn't define solutions, but describes a problem (*actually declarative languages are engines which run propogation algorithms in the background on your definitions but lets ignore this for the moment). Anyway the same example in prolog would be code: /* facts about the world */ fruit (apple) fruit (orange) fruit (poisonBerry) /* facts ie. apples are green */ colour(apple, green) colour(orange, orange) colour(poisonBerry, red) edible(apple) edible(orange) /*rules that hold in the world*/ isEdible(X):- edible(X) -- so here we have defined facts and a rule and we then ask it questions (note that this is not done in the code but outside during the interaction bit) like what colour is an apple in the form of: code: ? colour(apple, X) > yes /* the answer*/ or what fruits are edible or what colour are non-edible fruits? ... and etc code: ? isEdible(X). > apple /* the answers*/ orange ? colour(X (not isEdible(X) )) > red wrt AI, the example prolog i gave is the start of an expert system. without going into too much detail, declarative programs are based on first order logic of some sort (if your interested in the detail let me know and i'll send you stuff). and their aim is to prove a piece of logic is true, i.e; for all x given edible(x) isEdible(x) so their quite handy for a certain type of reasoning, i.e. when you can describe the world with a finite (pref. small) set variables/states with a firm logical contraits. however this is not always (well more often than not) possible, and there are other methods for reasoning if this is the case.... so as u can see its a different style altogether and they both have different strengths and weaknesses... shite .. i've just realised how much i've written, sorry if i waffled, back to wrk

what would you like to discuss? If you are learning i would suggest: C++ - for general purpose programming python - for scripting prolog - for thinking VB, ASp and .NEt are all microsoft centric, so they will limit your learning, it's like becoming a microsoft engineer rather than software, so if your just starting out, i'd suggest something more generic like the ones i listed. and think of it this way, learn c++ and it'll take you about 20 mins to pick up the basics of almost all procedural languages that have succeeded it, like java and .net

come on ppl, where is the party ppl.. if i had ngogne's web nose i'd put a decent picture up

Human Jurisdiction??? is the judgment the we can make as humans, i dont feel that a death sentence is one of them. carry on, thanks

Originally posted by Castro: ^ You have exactly 16 days before I return to cut your nuts off and feed them to you. Enjoy. Castro, i'm shocked, aghast and horrified by your reaction, alla-ubaahne is a serious, dignified and a valued member of our community. Its not his fault that he is prone to feverent outburts of damnation, afer all, who will protect the fabric of our moral constitution and our valued way of life. His message is here to enlighter us and enrich our lives. His piety is as example we should all strive to fulfill.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar maan you have to live upto Alle-ubaahne dude, if what you write is of any indication to how you might conduct a convesation, i have a feeling your member aint gonna be seeing the kinda acion required for 20+ chil'n.. some might say this is divine interception!

Originally posted by NGONGE: The king of evildoers is that me your referring to sir? :rolleyes: my afro, had been placed in the hair net for protection