why must you people suffer, again its simple, marry the girl before you go mad, else leave her be!

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maaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn whats wrong with you people. american football (or handball as its known to the rest of the world), is just plain gay. big guys in even bigger outfits jumping each other than, then taking a break every 12.2349 seconds having moved forward 2.34268696 yards to the 9th decimal place as sponsered by coca cola and Ms. Jackson's soon to be furnished new breast!

peepz, tho' i agree with the points, any way you cut it, death is death and no one wants to die or to lose their loved ones. Now as for blame, as much i'd like to take the chance to take a pot shot or two at the saudis it's the people on the grounds responsability to act with patience and dignity. All the reports that are coming out point to the crowds behaviour as leading to stampedes. managing + 2 million people in one place is a logistic disaster, trying to control them i would assume is impossible, so you have to rely on the crowd to police it self. But these are people in an excited state, they will be feverent in fulfilling their quest, no body wants to go back hone and say i didnt get my turn. so u have a problem an excited crowd is a dangerous place to be in. Thats why police beat crowds to disperse them as soon as they think their gonna get frisky. In my view you have two options to controll this. (i) try to teach the crowd to act responsibly - thei've tried this and its not working well, and it only takes a few to start a stampede (i) build the mother of all conveyor belts ad dont let any one get off it.

^^ thanks dude, could you point to the source pls

^^ ^^ for the interests of population harmony, i'll take two more pls, where do u sign up?

Originally posted by Xoogsade: Something to think about isn't it Mr.Caano Geel? No dude, death is always a tragedy

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alaah ha u naxriisto. -------------------------------------------------- At least 345 Muslim pilgrims have died in a crush during the stone-throwing ritual at the Hajj pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia, officials say. Hundreds of pilgrims have also been injured. A BBC correspondent at the scene in Mina saw dozens of bodies lined up on the ground. The ritual has seen many lethal stampedes but the number of dead this time is the highest in 16 years. After a crush in 2004, barriers and stewards were added to improve safety. The stampede took place at the foot of the bridge of Jamarat, where pilgrims hurl stones at three pillars representing the spot where the devil is said to have appeared to Abraham. An interior ministry spokesman, Maj Gen Mansour al-Turki, told the Associated Press news agency the crush happened after pieces of luggage spilled from moving buses in front of one of the entrances to the bridge, causing pilgrims to trip. At least 289 people were injured, according to the Saudi Health Minister Hamad bin Abdullah al-Maneh. With the local hospital in Mina overflowing, many victims of the crush were transported to medical facilities in Mecca and Riyadh, a doctor told the Associated Press news agency. Many of the victims were reportedly from south and south-east Asia. More than two million people were thought to have been performing the rite at the time. 'Road of death' Witness Abdullah Pulig, an Indian street-cleaner, described a scene of carnage. "I saw people moving and suddenly I heard crying, shouting, wailing. I looked around and people were piling on each other. They started pulling dead people from the crowd," he told the Associated Press news agency. Suad Abu Hamada, an Egyptian pilgrim, told the agency he heard screaming and "saw people jumping over each other". "It was like the road of death in there," said another pilgrim, quoted by Reuters news agency, who spoke of women fainting amid elbowing crowds. Ambulances and police cars streamed into the area, as security forces tried to move people away from the scene of the accident. The pilgrims were returning via Mina after performing the Tawaf al-Wada, a farewell ceremony that involves walking around the Kaaba - a cube-like building in the centre of Mecca's Great Mosque - seven times. The Tawaf al-Wada is performed after the Hajj has finished. The stoning is the riskiest ritual of the Hajj, as worshippers jostle to try to target the stones, often causing weaker pilgrims to fall under foot. In 2004, more than 200 pilgrims were trampled to death while performing the same ceremony. The latest deadly stampede comes days after more than 70 people died when a hostel for pilgrims collapsed in the Saudi city of Mecca. The Hajj is one of the five pillars of Islam and every able-bodied adult Muslim is obliged to perform it at least once in their lives. ------- source

it doesnt matter too much about specs' just go for weight and battery life and remember to always cut 1hr from what ever value they give you for the battery life. good luck

yes i heard this on the radio the other morning. What kinda of response could u possibbly have, its tragic. The worst part is that education just gives them more ways to kill a girl

Jimca Lee wrt to Deckard, the book it is better able to portray the psychology of the characters and really blends/questions what we would want to define as human, it cool. Isaac Asimov also does this quite well, the foundations series and the i robot short stories are fantastic, they still seem relevent - considering what value we give to people and how we define difference. Pronoia-ally book sounds interesting, but i tend to stay away from anything that claims it will be good for me - with out a more obvious insentive than 'cos they gonna get my money. anyhow eva read the The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series? Callypso-i-like-it-so the name is from a robert mitchum calypso album, with classic songs like the fantastic Mighty Sparrow cover Jean and Dinah, from Logical Point of View, Not Me, Tic Tic Tic, all explaining the righteousness of a man, while remaining fantastically cheesy, funny, and funky. anyhow the cover below says it all though i have to say, it wories me if sagan makes you wanna cry, thats hardcore synacism girl! To balance it out i recomend a quick course of Love in the Time of Cholera to remedy this and save us from the genius of a logical and consistant african village - lord forbid! -- yeah, so do you think texas shoul be given back to mexico? la dolce vei, indeed for potter JD you see that explains what happens when grow up amongst liberals, shame on you for not liberating yourself from their decedant imoral land! anyhow we think my dad is swedish so i'll speak to him and one day you could help us trace his lammi roots.

maaaaan whats wrong with ppl, just marry the girl will ya or leave her be.

dude its simple, marry the girl, or leave her be.

castro, this just vaidates my argument for eunics that carry the ermm donations between the men and the women during the ermm transaction. Think about it why invalidate the good mariage? Or risk any unpleasentries between the fair sexes.

'Callypso-i-like-it-so' Neuromancer is a fantastic book, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep is also a fantastic book (much better than the movie 'Blade Runner') inyour into the journa. Though i wouldnt say they were writtenf or me, Hermann Hess's Siddhartha and Chinua Achebe's Things Fall Apart always strike true. yes so JB where did u grow up, it certainly dont sound like skinnyland

true, you'll prolly find this interesting

allah yarxama

caption: (guy in the pink to the camera-man) Yi, aa told y'all ma $hit is precious

^ dude the site wont let you link so i cant see the pic. post the pic from another server cheers

Originally posted by Khayr: Nice cut and past job saxib :eek: Dude, that cuts deep, tut, tut, tut ...

surely you mean: 'the foresnsic qualifications of procastination and cavil and the arts of confounding and perplexing a cause!'

Originally posted by Allamagan: Subxanallah! Sick people dheh! indeed

Kharye, as much as i agree, what do u think are the chances of convincing somalis to eat fish of all things!

Originally posted by ThePoint: Before passing judgement - it is important to wait for and sift a response. After a reasonably long time, if no response is forthcoming - you can then pass the judgement above. If this above post is as a result of too much spiked Holiday caano-geel, I can make allowances. saaxiib, i'm sorry, you are right, i was feeling mal-adjusted that day. And i was refering to the author of the original article mr. estetes. And i know the ground is throughly treaded, but the watch maker example is rooted in view point which tries to capture a specific moment that it sees as the intention. And in really the world is too complex for that. So i think what it ends up doing is making faith irrelevant and playing catch up. This gets interesting because if a tenent of a religion is that we know everything. Because the obvious question is: wy didnt you tell us about it before?! Now you can deal with this in two ways .. go revisionisnt and say 'nope it doesnt exist, your making it up and if try to do it its wrong and sinful, or, say actually we know some things and not others.