guys really, after the persistant bad luck of ivory coast and angola, maan the black stars set the pitch on fire. the short pass game was just magnificient. simply beautiful to watch. However their stylish game of quick passes and dummy turns scares the day lights out me given the execution style play of argentina, spain, brazil and italy. -- america also, who would of thought thei'd be deserving giant slayers tonite. Libaax what are people like at your neck of the woods, my US insider referred to it as 'that football thing'

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Togo all the and their chief voodoo priest is with me and will be there to help things along

Originally posted by sheherazade: So long as the cushion has pins in it, mate. lol, love that gracious spirit girl..

Originally posted by Allamagan: Apparently her dad used to pray in Somali coz he used hate Arabs and Arabic language ... and the problem is ..! sheheheh, i think we're just after the cushion effect here

^^ so is she gonna be forgiven and bought back into the warm squishy bossom of soomaliweyn then?

lol, qaxooti madaxaada qari, maxaa ku dhacay!

blah-land and blah-lia, what difference does it make to our lives, and when is the next round of american nuking due?

sorry for the double post, the topic is being rinsed here, http://www.somaliaonline.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=005763

The US is funding a coalition of Somali warlords who earlier this year battled Islamic groups in Mogadishu, Somali President Abdullahi Yusuf has said. Mr Yusuf's spokesman said the funding was fuelling Somalia's civil war. At least 70 people were killed in the worst violence seen in the Somali capital for several years, when the two groups clashed in March. US officials refused to comment directly but one said they did not want terror to take root in the region. Somalia has not had an effective national authority for 15 years. Reports that the US was operating in Somalia have been circulating for some time, but this is the first time someone so senior has commented on them. Mr Yusuf was elected in 2004 by MPs sitting in Kenya, but his rule has been opposed by several of the warlords who earlier this year formed the Alliance for the Restoration of Peace and Counter-Terrorism, to take on the Islamic Courts militia. The US was using the warlords, most of whom are also MPs, to try to capture al-Qaeda members who are being protected by Islamic clerics in Mogadishu, President Yusuf told the AP news agency. "But the Americans should tell the warlords they should support the government, and co-operate with the government. "We are the legitimate government, and we will help you fight terrorism," he said. The US had seen President Yusuf as an ally in Washington's self-declared war on terror. The president had fought Islamic groups when he led Somalia's region of Puntland. The US has set up a military base in neighbouring Djibouti to tackle the Islamic militants who have struck in East Africa - many of whom allegedly have links to Somalia. The US has previously refused to comment on reports that it has had Islamic leaders kidnapped in Mogadishu and flown abroad for questioning. US State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said he was not sure why President Yusuf made the latest comments. "It's a real concern of ours, terror taking root in the Horn of Africa," he said. "We don't want to see another safe haven for terrorists created." Somali government spokesman Abdirahman Dinari told Reuters news agency that the US was indirectly fuelling the civil war. "The warlords, through US support, have caused so many deaths of innocent civilians in the recent fighting in Mogadishu," he said. The warlords - Mohammed Deere, Mohammed Qanyare and Bashir Rageh - and their business allies control large parts of Mogadishu and, crucially, the airstrips around the capital. ----- source

A Somali teenager has stabbed to death his father's killer in a public execution ordered by an Islamic court. Large crowds gathered at a Koranic school in Somalia's capital to watch 16-year-old Mohamed Moallim, stab Omar Hussein in the head and throat. Hussein was convicted of killing Mohamed's father, Sheikh Osman Moallim, after a row about his education. Islamic courts have brought a semblance of order to Mogadishu, imposing Sharia law after years of rule by warlords. However there is some opposition to the courts. A group of warlords has been fighting a militia loyal to the Islamic courts, which they accuse of links to al-Qaeda. Under Sharia law those who commit murder are punishable by death. Hussein was tied to a stake and had his head covered by a bag ahead of his execution. He shouted "There is no God but Allah" as Mohamed Moallim stepped up to take his revenge. Speaking afterwards, Mohamed said he felt satisfied that Hussein was dead. "I am happy now because I killed the man who killed my father," he told the Reuters news agency. The execution marked the first time the local court in the Bermuda district of Mogadishu had handed down a death penalty, local media reported. Residents in the nearby area have reported a drop in robberies, murder and general lawlessness since the court began its work, Radio HornAfrik said. There has been no effective central government in Somalia for 15 years, leaving warlords to fight for control of local areas. source

Aight peepz its been time since i've had the chance to enjoy your random ramblings... so how goes? Anyhow, accroding to the bbc some lucky nomads could soon be enjoying a bit of me , source ---------------------------------------------- Camel's milk could become the latest super food to hit the shelves of health food shops and upmarket retailers. The United Nations is calling for the milk, which is rich in vitamins B and C and has 10 times more iron than cow's milk, to be sold to the West. Camel's milk, which is slightly saltier than traditional milk, is drunk widely across the Arab world and is well suited to cheese production. Harrods and Fortnum & Mason are said to be interested in the product. As well as its high mineral and vitamin content, research has suggested that antibodies in camel's milk can help fight diseases like cancer, HIV/Aids Alzheimer's and hepatitis C. And work is on-going to see whether it can have a role in reducing the effects of diabetes and heart disease. The UN's food arm, the Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO), wants producers in countries from Mauritania to Kazakhstan to start selling camel's milk to the West. It hopes donors and investors will help develop the market. 'Humps in production' Meat and dairy expert at the FAO Anthony Bennett said: "The potential is massive. Milk is money." He said there were 200 million potential customers in the Arab world and tens of millions more in Europe, the Americas and Africa. He suggested the market could be worth at least £5.6 billion although improvements are needed along the supply chain. "No one's suggesting intensive camel dairy farming, but just with improved feed, husbandry and veterinary care daily yields could rise to 20 litres," he added. And since fresh camel milk fetches roughly a dollar a litre on African markets it would mean serious money for the nomadic herders who now have few other sources of revenue, he added. Tapping the market for camel milk, however, involves resolving a series of humps in production, manufacturing and marketing, the FAO said. One problem lies in the milk itself, which has so far not proved to be compatible with the UHT (Ultra High Temperature) treatment needed to make it long-lasting. But the main challenge stems from the fact that the producers involved are, overwhelmingly, nomads. A spokeswoman for the British Nutrition Foundation said: "Camel's milk could be a useful addition to the diet as it contains calcium and B vitamins and is lower in saturated fat than cow's milk. "However, it is more expensive than cow's milk and does have quite an acquired taste that some people may not like."

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Yet another tragedy, allah ha u naxriisto -------------------- A man whose mother has Somali roots was murdered in a "savage attack" which may have been racially-motivated, police on Tyneside have said. Lee Phipps, 31, was found with fatal stab wounds in a South Shields street on Thursday. He lived with his mother Barbara Yusuf-Porter in King George Road in the town and both had previously complained of racial harassment. Officers are now pursuing the racial motive as an active line of inquiry. At a news conference on Saturday, police said Mr Phipps had never been in trouble and he had not been robbed. He was a keen photographer and had intended to take shots of the snowy landscape around his home, but police who found his camera said no photos had been taken. Det Supt Steve Wade, leading the murder investigation, said: "At this time we do not know the motive for his attack, however, because of the previous reported racist incidents, this will be a line of inquiry that we will vigorously pursue." Despite extensive searches in the snow, police have yet to find where Mr Phipps was attacked and believed he may have been stabbed away from where he was found by a dog walker in Cleadon Hill Road. Mr Wade said: "Sadly, there are no blood trails or any indication from the scene to say exactly where the attack took place, which is frustrating." Mr Phipps lived with one of his two sisters and their mother. His divorced father is travelling from the Manchester area to be with the family. Last year Mrs Yusuf-Porter set up an internet support group for local victims of racial abuse, in which she made allegations about local people and police. In 2002 she brought an employment tribunal case against a double-glazing firm alleging she was racially abused at work, but she lost. source

B, darling why is secular democracy absurd Baashi, u know saaxiib that i cant read lectures, but having now done so.. The above is an interesting article, but its still a theological statement. It says more about what some one believes, not how a system that includes people that have difference should functoin. Phrase such as: ' In Western democracy the people are sovereign, in Islam sovereignty is vested in Allah and the people are His caliphs or representatives' Says it clearly. What this author is claiming is the same thing that pope says to sanctify his possition and the a monarchy use to sanctify their power. If you didnt know the phrase 'god save the king' comes from the divine right they see in their place. I dont think i want to start saying 'god save the caliph'. -- Replace each occurance of islam in that arricle with 'the catholic church' and u pretty much have the sanctimonious position of the catholic church. My point is that it is too easy to idealise - either by saying a theocracy can save us or theocracy will ruin us. The truth lies some where in between. But theoracry is about absolutism and in my view this has no place in the state. Where it is valuable is in the home. How you conduct your life, what u observe, respect, -- but all in your own private life and if you want it to be more powerfull, those that you choose to asssociate with, -- its not about the state telling you how to live. Another intersting point is that by deligating this right to choose what values represent you, you are saying i dont know what i need. That guy over will tell it to me. And i have no power over their choices in this life. Yeniceri i think u're getting messsed up here between shariah and scripture. I wont start that debate but look it up and you will find as many scholors that disagree with each tenant of shariah law as agree. Kharyn many other people read the quran / pray / ... I dont have to agree with them just cos they do. Actually what gets me is the blinkered outlook its like as soon as an arab name comes along, we disengade the brain. I know that you dont believe all that arcticle says, if you did you wouldnt be sitting on your comfy sofa with your broadband viewpoint of the world. Anyhow the point of democracy is representation - mind the cliche -- And delegating that responsability to the few has not had a good track record in any society, now or in the past. -

Cally, the author of the article is currenlty in a jordanian jail and is rummered to be the spritual mentor to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the 'head' of the suni insurgency in iraq. So i think we can safely say that his view are about as constructive to the process as Dubya's. B. yes all not ideal things are forbidden, but there it is not explicitly established how the Muslim community was to be governed in scripture. The first caliphs were chosen by their peers based on percieved competence. If that is not the basic of a democracy tell me what is? If instead your talking about a theocracy then its a whole different ball game. Anyhow my point is that if you accept that people are different and hold different views on the same subject. Then absolutetism cannot work without at best sideling the concerns of anything or anyone outside the scope of its adherents. Xiin, the role of legislating to Allah is intersing because its a one sided afair. If anyone comes up to you and says that i've told by allah that .... - u will automatically class them as a Dubya and run for it. Now because we're asked to make judgment based on guidance, whose author we cannot confer with directly, we only have our individual reasoning and collective debate as the markers. This doesnt mean that you get rid of the role of the judgement of allah, but this is something personal between a person and their creator not how people whose what representatives they want to carry their interests.

kashafa, i think its too easy to say democracy in muslim nations. It would a strench and most cases in the extreme to call the mechanims in place those countries democracies. At best, they coulbe described existing in the netherland beween autocracies and cleptocracies. The point in a democarcy is that there isnt things to import, for example its not about mechanisms to control corruption. But a mentality that regulates it. The basic tenant is simple. Everyone is corrupt given the opportunity - and even if you could guarantee that most people arn't corrupt, some corrupt people will get through, so how can we manage the influence they may have and ---> in comes the electoral process and u get rid of them at the next opportunity. As Xiin said 'output of democratic process is directly proportional to the input of the voters' This is obviously the ideal system where people care, participate and good and fair information. Anyhow the point is that is that it works because in its pure form it guarantees nothing and reacts purely to the feedback of its participants. So those that want to function in it have to uphold the values of the society they representy, more or less continuesly. I think u're talking about is morality and this should be very different to a poltical process. It should not function by giving people no choice but by convincing the people that it is the best choice.

congrats Kat,

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Khyr, the title says democracy on trail. not the clash of principles-Word of god/revelation v. popular sentiment and moral relativism. which is why i asked whether you wanted to discuss the points raised or for them to be taken as is and accepted. --- anyways i told ya before i wont bring up relativism around the muslims in the us

ok so do u guys wanna discuss this or do you wanna want to say what u believe and people to agree with you?

Notorius -- what a performance indeed man.. # '1 - nil to the arsenal' '1 - nilll to the arsenal' '1 - nillll to the arsenal'

^ comfirned thanks dude

Dear editor , You scandalous cow wait till i get my hands on you. We're gonna rinse you for all your worh. best regards Geeljire Association of Skinny forum

so this is what i currently see. Admin. the old page is for me a lot easier to navigate on sight, but the new ones seem cleaner. The links to the 'useful' rather than business sites clutter it. And the middle bit with the news, though useful takes all the focus. I think this takes the appeal away from what your good at and makes it more about what u link to. And yes the old content doesnt change, but the image drives how it evolves. By all means re-design, and it looks good, but the change in structure i think is too aggresive.