really where are the decent somali restaurants?

rudy, le me get this right, the little twerp pick on ordinary people in the streets and it is the local government's fault?

long time boys - sadly haven't spent much time in gower street lately - been practising my german. coffee and catchup at the weekend?

Adam-Zayla, no problem. Also, make sure to check the machine has an ethernet port. This is so that you can plug it into a router for a wired internet connection

Guys, don;t you think that arguing the phrasing of a term is like arguing the length of a piece of string. Surely what is done is done. and the interesting thing is to understand what it means to be a somalilander as a opposed to a somali.

ok, this is interesting. and please, let us not go down the mud slinging direction. individually. MARX with regard to your definition, of "The 350,000 Somalilanders who made their fortune in Mogadishu since the 1960, and who were subjected to robbing, looting, systemic killing and rape before and after the fall of the Barre regime .. " so do you see this persecution as the integral part of the somaliland identity? p.s. that was a rebuttal, but an opinion Xaaji_xundjuf again, your comment is refering back to a struggle, do you agree with Mr Marx's definition - for lack of a better term- as intergral part of your somaliland identity and specifically, what aspect of the struggle do you relate to, in order to form you somaliland identity JB walaal, such bureaucratic documents are dry and heartless, and for me at least don't convey much about an identity or why we choose to define or relate to it. If you see that document as your definition of "the" (in the context of the 'our' question i asked) collective somaliland identity, what aspect of it defines a somalilander for you? which part do you relates to? Abtigiis &Tolka please let's not do go down the reer-blah line jonny-boy you my man like to stir the pot way too much thank you all p.s. with regard to my comment at the begining of this discussion, this not just aimed at somaliland. Revisionism is practised by everyone, there is a reason why Churchill's quote that "history is written by the victors exits" is more poignant than ever

moi ou vous? il est evident que vous faites reference à votre

Jonny-Boy, pourquoi êtes-vous effrayer les gens loin de moi

JB, sorry for missing the obvious, and what defines being a member of 'our'

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: Funny people even want to dictate our own history ...... would please be kind enough to define "our". And in all honesty, I don't say this to bait you, but to try to understand how our thinking differs

Don't upset your self bro, after all, you have to start the brainwashing somewhere. I suggest you go to the schools/colleges/uni versities and try to see what they define to be history there. You can tell most about a society by looking to what it tries to rub out of from its history

"the great pretenders, Religious entertainers who want to be life savers."

again it depends on how you want to use your computer. I use a netbook - on and off at work, and they are fantastic at their job - very long battery life compared to laptops, light to carry and cheap. If you have an old monitor, you can buy a netbook with VGA out (this is the a little plug interface - see pic below) and you can plug into a monitor + keyboard and mouse, which gives you a desktop setup like this. VGA out

Originally posted by Johnny B: ^What is available in 'Akhiro' the hereafter has been revealed, and a Mobile in not mentioned, I see that you have joined the immovable object and unstoppable force crew. so come on man, let's hear your premises and your conjectures

Originally posted by Sophist: Daahfur. explain .. please

no, provided you use content management tools (conspiracy being the best best man to advice on which) it should make no difference. All the material for your website + backup is usually stored at the servers - keeping a local copy for anything other than backup is really not required. p.s. do you actually need a laptop. will this think travel at all. I say this because i have become a fan of mac-mini - will get one as soon as i can convince my spendthrift self of buying a machine. so really all you want is something to surf the web on and tinker with your website?

Adam-Zayla, what do you mean by "operate a history website"? do want to run the website from the machine?

Originally posted by Oz: ^^ That's cold. Amin Arts has crossed the line. That's hot. surely!

Originally posted by Faarax-Brawn: If that is the norm.And you know damn well that you will get shafted if you move there. Then stick that head in the sand. This is of course,Personal opinion. oo la la monsieur. se courber et de toucher vos orteils

Originally posted by Cara: ^Let's just say you are the undisputed king of limbo dancing. Why do i suddenly feel like the vacant kid at the back of the class?! Originally posted by Faarax-Brawn : Castro & Ibt: Personal opinion;If the rule of the country is such,Muslims who willingly reside in their,should accept the rules. even if that means sticking your head in the sand and singing 'jolly-ho' while you get shafted

Adam, what do you want the laptop for? i.e. tell us how you intend to use it and we'll tell you the good cheap stuff

Originally posted by Xaaji_xundjuf: quote:Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: This is an insult to our religion. There are no mobile phones in Aakhiro ... How do you know There are no mobile phones in akhiiro, Guys keep this up, i really want to see where this line of argument goes .. i believe we may be onto finding a new approach to disproving the infallible.

Originally posted by Castro: ^^^^ Dude, this is straight out of the right-wing talk radio play book making fun of "72 virgins." How can you love it?... what can i say, i like idiocracy being expanded to its limits

Originally posted by LayZie G.: ^this is a new low, even for you@Caano. (runaway reporting of all things?) sweet, incidentally, how low was i before?

Abaya gets a makeover from John Galliano and Blumarine Top European fashion labels, including John Galliano and Blumarine, have sent models in couture abayas down the runway in an effort to lure wealthy Muslim women. source 26 Jun 2009. The Saks Fifth Avenue Riyadh and Jeddah fashion show at the George V hotel in Paris. A horsewoman in a flowing, made-to-measure Islamic gown atop a snorting steed opened the fashion show on Thursday at the George V Hotel in Paris. Abayas are the body-covering black robes some Muslim women don over their clothing in public, usually accompanied by a head scarf or niqab, the face veil that covers all but the eyes. Designers who tried their hand at making over the abaya, which is required in Saudi Arabia, included Christian Dior's artistic director John Galliano, French luxury labels Nina Ricci and Jean Claude Jitrois and Italian houses Blumarine and Alberta Feretti. The show began with a bang, as the carrot-topped cavaliere - decked out in a Galliano-designed abaya exploding with firework of coloured sequins and dangling fringe - rode her mount into the hotel's subterranean salon. Twenty models followed on foot, wearing abayas heavy with rhinestones or airy in gauzy fabrics. "I realised that most of the Saudi clients are wearing designer brands, but they're covered by a black abaya," said Dania Tarhini, the show's organiser and a general manager of Saks Fifth Avenue in Saudi Arabia. "It is an obligation to wear the abaya there, but let them feel good about it." The timing of the Paris show was propitious: four days earlier, Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, struck a nerve in the Muslim world by declaring that full-body veils such as the burka are "not welcome" in France, saying they make women prisoners. A top Muslim group in Britain called Mr Sarkozy "patronising and offensive." Lebanon's most influential Shia cleric called on Mr Sarkozy to reconsider his comments. Ms Tarhini, a Lebanese who has lived in Saudi Arabia for the past seven years, acknowledged "it wasn't easy" to convince designers to take part in the project. At first, "they couldn't imagine how to make a designer abaya," she told The Associated Press in an interview. "I explained to them the concept is to (make women) look good and also to promote their brands .... Then they accepted." She said the initial batch of made-to-measure abayas - worth between €4,000-€8,000 ($5,500-$11,150) - would be given as presents to Saks' most faithful Saudi clients. Ready-to-wear versions of the robes by the 21 designers featured in the Paris show are expected to go on sale in Saks stores the Saudi Arabian cities of Jeddah and Riyadh in September. The gowns, which are to retail for €1,800 ($2,500), could later be sold in the store's branches in neighbouring Bahrain and Dubai, she said. Most of the gowns on display adhered to standards considered appropriate for wear in Saudi Arabia: all were black, most were floor-length and many had a built-in head covering or matching veil. The few translucent abayas, like a bell-sleeved gown embroidered with white and yellow flowers by Carolina Herrera, the Venezuelan designer favoured by Renée Zellwegger, were meant to be worn over evening gowns, Ms Tarhini said. "Everybody's waiting for a change in a good way," she said. Some women in Saudi Arabia "don't want to feel obliged (to wear the abaya). They want to wear it to look fashionable, as well." -- but it is ok if you pay the French for them