^ there may be, and historically there have been some at times in the past, but in all honesty who cares. If you are confident in your own faith, why should another mans faith trouble you?

lilly, We could always 'Diana'-you-up and they like big eyes

lily, I dont know, but fortunatly for you, you would be too dark for the traditional chinese marital sensibilities. Zu, I'll hopefully go there at the end of the year, anything you'd like me to get for you

Originally posted by Valenteenah: Will there be food? Something to choke on while the President and Prime Minister jostle for the Teleconference system mic? Val, are you looking for a corpse to flog to the chinese or something?

^ record it and podcast is for us .. or even better, stream it live so that we can hear and ask questions, you just need a laptop, camera and a net connection

shehehehehe, sorry for the exclamation mark dear, i'll get off the soap box and after my head rush, try neva to use it aggitation/suprise again Puja, inamadooda ha iibsadaan, laakiin maydka maysan gadan jirin (non-exclamation mark here)

Its the line "Mr Yang refused, until Mr Liu told him that the woman would be worth much more dead than alive." that gets me!

Ghost brides are murdered to give dead bachelors a wife in the afterlife Actors as ghost bride and bridegroom: parents who make a spirit marriage for sons regard the dead bride's family as in-laws (Bobby Yipby/Reuters) A ring of gangsters who traded in the bodies of women they murdered, selling them as brides to keep dead bachelors happy in the afterlife, has been arrested in China. The arrests have exposed a trade that places a higher value on women when they are dead than when they are alive. Yang Dongyan, 35, was arrested on January 4 in Sha’anxi province as he played cards with his children. In his prison cell, Mr Yang showed little remorse for committing two murders. He told the Legal Daily: “I just wanted to make money. It’s a quick way to make money. I was arrested too soon otherwise I had planned to do this business a few more times.” Two accomplices, Liu Shengbao and Hui Haibao, were also arrested, as was Li Longsheng, a self-styled undertaker who traded the bodies to bereaved families. Zhang Yanjun, chief of police in Yanchuan county, said: “It’s lucky that the case was cleared up in time or we don’t know how many women would have been killed by them. These people thought they had found a short cut to wealth.” Instead, they face the death penalty. The men preyed on the superstitions of ill-educated farmers eager to ensure that a dead son was happy in the afterlife. It is not uncommon in rural parts of China for a family to seek out the body of a woman who has died to be buried alongside their son after the performance of a marriage ceremony for the deceased pair. Ancestor worship is a tradition that runs through many aspects of Chinese life. One of the main Chinese festivals is Tomb Sweeping Day, when families visit graves of their forebears to clean them and burn incense. The spirit is believed to live on in the afterlife and at funerals families burn offerings of paper money and models of houses, cars and other little luxuries that the dead may need. Mr Yang chanced upon the trade in dead bodies when he paid 12,000 yuan (£800) for a mentally handicapped woman whose family hoped to marry her off for a price. The trade in women as wives is a common practice in rural China and a woman may be sold several times by intermediaries before meeting her eventual husband. Mr Yang arranged for the woman to stay in a guesthouse in Yanchuan county where Mr Liu offered him £666 for her. Mr Yang refused, until Mr Liu told him that the woman would be worth much more dead than alive. The next morning the two men set out across the Yellow River to meet “Old Li” in Xixian County, Shanxi province. Old Li agreed to buy the woman’s body for £1,050 and to complete the deal late at night on the Yanshuiguan bridge. The next day Mr Yang killed the woman and took her body by taxi to the bridge where Mr Li was waiting and handed over £1,000 for her. For his part in the deal, Mr Liu received £300 and Mr Yang came away with a loss of £200 after his expenses. Back at the guesthouse, Mr Yang told an old acquaintance, Mr Hui, that he had found an easy way to make money. The two men agreed to go into the body business together. Last November they sought out a prostitute they knew in nearby Yan’an — the city where Chairman Mao began his Communist revolution — but she threw them out after they said that they could not afford to pay her £20. They returned the next morning and killed her. On December 3 they completed a similar body handover with Mr Li on the bridge. This time they made only £530 because the buyer was unhappy with the quality of the body and, after costs, Mr Yang and his two friends each earned £100 on that deal. Old Li had made a name for himself in Xixian county by selling clothes to outfit the dead and by handing out cards that offered to help families in need of a spirit marriage. They want young and good-looking dead brides for their sons and regard the family of the girl as “in-laws”. Police discovered that Mr Li paid between £530 and £660 for a body and sold it on for as much as £2,300. Fatal Attraction # Traditional Chinese belief holds that the living must tend to the wants and needs of dead relatives, who exist in an afterlife # The tradition manifests itself in the burning of fake money or paper models of luxury goods # It is believed by some that an unmarried life is incomplete, leading to the practice of minghun — burying single sons with recently dead young women to provide them with a wife in the afterlife # Parents of a dead daughter often regard the money received in selling her for minghun as recompense for the dowry that they did not receive in her lifetime, while also posthumously elevating their child’s place in a patriarchal society # Communist authorities tried to ban the practice, which datesfrom the Zhou dynasty (1122-256BC). It was also forbidden in the Book of Rites, texts that describe religious practices from the eighth to the fifth century BC # Minghun survives mainly in the poor rural north, particularly in the remote plateau on the upper reaches of the Yellow River -- source

Caamir, I dont think i'll ever forgive the economist for the "Islamo-fascist" phrase/ Btw, you sure the article didnt come from jihadwatch?

^ Just ask not to be placed on the seat next to fat Belgium men and you'll be fine

you are 17 arent u?

Bilal Sadly i've already delegated my blood sacrifice to one of allah-ubaahne's daughters I put to you that muslims right now just want to live! and i ask how the interpretation of the ayad in nessecarily "tested with bloodshed" is beyond me With regard to finding a sollution - surely you see he aint in the vacinity..

I swear Zawahri and co. are covert agents, used to clear the next round of muslim massacres

^ No, not all TFG supporters are from the north east ( man i hate the puntland name .. i mean if they were going down that line at least puntterra would of made sense .. that aside...) second, not all the members of the government are of one clan either, so that one doesnt stick. Its a puppet gov. call it that, but dont throw aroud veiled clan comments, or what could be interpreted as that please. We already have enough of those to deal with. thanks

hehehe, Hussain is fast climbing the greasy pole to become my fav. somali politician.

^ gloves damn it, gloves! .. man even norf.. *partially* agrees

^ I see we've started digging through dirt already Mr US of A. Alahu-Akbar and the clan comments you make dont fit together dude, loose one at least.

YOu gotto love jokers man.. They should be up on stage... I swear you boys could earn a living on your commentry alone

^Yes, i hear Hamas is relocating to the juba valley now too

Originally posted by raadamiir: Alle-ubaahne accept defeat because you have been defeated!!! Abduallhi Yusuf is in villa Somalia and your mother is cooking his dinner isn't that enought for you or do you want your whole family working for him. You and your clan have been defeated. clan wars are over if you want to bring it back you will die trying. At least the ethiopians love peace unlike your uncles. Dude, you missed a bit with the rub..

Umm, sadly its not all in the name

^ Yep, and one of Ubaahne's daughters will be fighting on my behalf too > (a pre-emptive "Go Girl" from here )

^ Too many snitches in the UK. That culture is not for a person of my position. I am stop I understand!

I don't work with brits. jajuus culture up in the Queens land. Dont worry man, I understand. I hear its contagious .. have you checked u're company lately?

Do you have any half-baked coordinates we can flog man, we'll split it [4/11 | 9/12] - how about it.