Originally posted by Cadaan: Boy, this Mr. Peace guy is something else, isn't he? First he insults my children by claiming they're "not Somali" and whining about Somali women marrying converts like myself, and now he's talking about "baboon" music. Real fine piece of work, this guy. Anyways, I don't know the song. Well, sorry to say but you're half caste children are not somali and will not be accepted by the somali community mr Cadaan.

Blessed Sarcasm is a sign of weakness and not a clever way to make an argument, drop it walaal. Allah has created us differently with different purposes as men and women. "Allah, the Most High says in Holy Qur'an: "Men are in charge over women in that Allah has favored the one over the other and that they spend from their wealth..." (4:34) In this ayat, Allah, the Most High has established the authoritative position of men over women. It is the responsibility of men to protect and defend women." How will one know their culture without knowing their lineage? Some primitive native american and african cultures and jews do have matrilineal descent but most civilized cultures trace their ancestory through the father, and you're culture and ethnicity is that of your fathers. It's very simple. As for religion and culture, religion is part of culture. All cultures share a system of believes together, custums, etc which makes them unique. Religion is that system of believe.

Malika Walaal, you are confused. Women cannot be leaders of nations in islam, they can be advisers, and lead other women but leadership of a state is for men. Next, are you gonna suggest that women can lead prayer as well? Here's a hadith to clarify this for you. " Imam Bukhari reports from Abu Bakrah the following: "Allah provided me with considerable benefit during the battle of the camel with one word (or one statement). When news reached the prophet (S.A.W.) that the Persians had appointed Chosroe's daughter as their ruler, he said: ''A nation which placed its affairs in the hands of a woman shall never prosper!''

Originally posted by Ban-tured: quote:Originally posted by Mr-Peace: Ban-tured . Of course somali men have the most to blame, but some women took part in it as well. Is it wrong to say that? Don't misunderstood me , plse. What I mean is Somali Woment at large are inoccent and are paying the price of men driven civil war in Somalia.And it is true, there are guys who re very much engaged in rapping and humuliating our esteemed women, that I hope, you know it, bro. Yes, I agree, all Somali Women are not immune from this dirty inter-clan conflict and wardlords led inter-conflicts,but on this, We can not generalist it to all Somali women.I beleive , if sOmali women were given a chance to lead us, they won't be cursed us as we did as a men since last 18 yrs.Saaxiib dumarku waa halbawlaha iyo aas aska qoyska marka way garanayaan micnaha nabada, ee sas ii fahan. That's nonsense saxiib, somali women played there part in the civil war even in some cases egging their men to fight. Remember magool? Men have the lion share of the blame, but everyone played their part. There is nothing politically incorrect about saying that. We are a muslim nation, women cannot lead us, stop buying into corrupt western ideals saxiib.

Kool Kat xaal qaado eedo, I was only joking with you.

Blessed Most civilized cultures have patrilineal descent, that's how the world works. Those 'basturds' you are talking about are still somali because they have somali fathers. But the offspring of a somali woman and a jamaican are jamaican and should not and will not be accepted by the somali community. There are always different rules for men and women because we are not the same and allah has made us different. Remember that.

General I have no confidence in somalia moving forward if those at the driver seat of that movement are the same ones responsible for killing, displacing countless number of somali's during the past 17 years. We can only move forward with Ethiopians gone, and the warlords masquerading as government stripped of their powers.

General Duke How can a warlord like abdi qaybdid who committed heinous crimes against 'puntlanders' and other somali's be in a somali government? A man like him should be executed or jailed, yet this puppet entity you call TFG has put in charge of the police. Does that make any sense?

Kool Kat You're a mother, control yourself. You obsession with this saqajaan character is getting dangerous, were you planning on running away with him? Think of your kids eedo

Hello Blessed That's mudane tupac song I believe, one of the few songs where he's not promoting gangsterism, drug dealing and other nonsense. It doesn't really go with the theme of my topic. Here's Another Baboon music song, very inspirational. "3,6,9 damn she fine hopin she can sock it to me one mo time Get low, Get low 6x To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall) Till the sweat drop down my balls (MY BALLS) To all these *****es crawl (crawl) To all skeet skeet mother****** (mother******!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam) To all skeet skeet mother****** (mother******!) all skeet skeet got dam (Got dam)"

Ban-tured yaa ku faanay kufsi iyo dilka dumarka? war ninyaho adiga arinta meel kale aa gaysay, is daji sxb. Of course somali men have the most to blame, but some women took part in it as well. Is it wrong to say that?

I must say this General duke is quite the politician, doing whatever it takes to twist reality to he's desires. This TFG venture is over, and as long as there are ethiopians in somali soil there will never be a stable somalia.

Mr Gheelle T I refer to the music as baboon music, not people. I don't condone racism, I'm a man of peace.

Where did this saqajaan character go?

Well I suppose that's true.But also, by the same token if we all racially and culturally mixed, life would be dull and there would be no uniqueness. This topic has been exhausted anyways, so let's leave it there.

I'd preferred if you agreed with me.

General Duke So I take it, you have no problem with Ethiopians raping, murdering somali civilians, defecating on mosques and committing other heinous crimes. How can you expect to be taking seriously with your 'stable somali' rigmarole?

Aaliyah You're a smart girl, but a little misguided. I cannot blame you for your misguided views, it's the western environment you grew up in. Religion is a significant part of culture, you can't separate the two.

aaliyah Those muslim converts can find muslim converts of their own race, there are many of them. My only point was that inter cultural relationships should not be encouraged, of course people will do what they feel like doing and we can't control every individual but let's make sure those xalimo's who do go for other races are in the minority. Maybe, calling them desperate was not right . I take that back, but everything else I said still remains to be true. Culture is vital to human existance, it's what distinguishes, it's what makes us unique as humans and we are encouraged as muslims to preserve and cherish our cultures or else we would not be made of different races, culture etc.

Originally posted by AAliyah416: ^^Mr peace learn to respect other people's choices. I respect other people's choices, doesn't mean I have to agree with them and accept them.

Originally posted by Alfa: Alla meeshu qosol badanaa. Wareerka aduunka dheh waa la isku wareersan yahay. Mideeda kale hablaha soomalidu maxay un is-difaac ugu jiraan intii aay arrinka si kale oo is-difaaca un ahayn kaliya maay kiiskooda ku xalisadaan. Waxaan amin sanahay in aay kari karaan taasi haddii aay dabada muska kala soo bixi lahaayeen. Mr. Peace khalad ama saxba si hagaagsan (koleey wuu dhaama dadka is hayeen) ayuu kiiskiisa u difaacay una challenge gareeyey hablaha. sxb, they know I'm telling the truth, just difficult to handle.

Originally posted by Mr. Gello: not my somali sista. I wont let me daughters marry even outside their own tribe let alone blacks and JMs! way to speak the truth my friend.

Here's the game, someone writes some baboon music lyrics, and the objective is to figure out which baboon song it is. Here's first one. You'll notice most baboon music have the same general things in common: getting some cash money and slapping some ho's. "I love to see you dance, do it your way Shake that ***, you know it's okay I just wanna know, if you'll strip Make a real player wanna give you a tip You move so sexy, I love the way you wiggle Your titties bounce around and your big booty jiggles Make the video, it's official Throw the stiff hoes out the game, blow the whistle"

+faheema waan jeclahay marke ghabdha ii qaniinaan, waa foreblay.

Somali women had their part in the civil war as well, let's not pretend they were all innocent. Do you think the men would be fighting each other if somali women didn't support them? All somali women had to do was threaten to close their bodies for business if the men continued fighting each other. No group is completely innocent in somalia, everyone played a part.