Originally posted by Ebyan: Let's cut the b.s. and tell it like it is. If you were to do a survey asking Somalis what was more important to them: their tribe or their country, I'm sure most (if not all) would say the former. I can't stand "douche bag hippies" who act like they don't have a qabilist bone in their body (qabil is a primitive concept,I'm reer-magal blah-blah-blah). Everyone is born to a tribe and when the lines are drawn, everyone will take sides accordingly. This isn't the result of the civil-war; Somalis are, have always been and will always be like this. Lake; Yeah, great, Mr.HY( that means high-york, right? :rolleyes: ) anything else? You Khalaf alone with your toy soldier taako man..analyze people waaaay to much. Fall back

Mashallah real nice

Originally posted by Ebyan: quote:Originally posted by Geel_Jire12: Quote: If we're going to mathematically/logically sum up wat Somalia has done for individuals here and what their qabil has done for them, the majority would go for Qabil over Somalia. In the turmoil in Somalia, I say my Qabil has fought harder for my families';protection and welfare than any other group. That's what comes first in my identity. Simple format, think it through before sounding like hippy douchebags with the whole "unity" thing. This was written by Somali youth on another forum. Does he have a point? Is he wrong/right? I agree with him. If it weren't for my qabil, I probably wouldn't be where am I today. My qabil is a very important part of my identity and yes I am tribe xyz before I'm Somali. Being Somali has done diddly-squat for me. ^^^ That explains why you support that coward..Yey

Three men go to a motel.The motel cost 30 dollars so they each pay 10 dollars.They then complain about the rooms uncleanliness so the manager tells the desk clerk to give them back 5 dollars.The desk clerk pockets 2 dollars and gives the men back 3 dollars.So each man ends up paying 9 dollars.9 times 3 is 27,plus the 2 that the desk clerk pocketed ? is 29.Where did the missing dollar go??

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The Somalis want to see Yey and Geedi hanged before we can move on

Originally posted by Renegade: Well Put Elysian, I know that i am being a bit more biased here but i feel that Sheikh is at the heart of Somaliland and i feel some part of the executive power should go there I think you have to go a little up-north. Haha...I think Berbera is. Berbera is the heart of SL. There are alot of activies going on in Berbera now.

Originally posted by Sayid: Too late, too little and too fake. This false accusation was covered over a month ago... Even then it was a non-event; were you living in a cave for the past months? Buddy look at the date of the article from Shabelle: it says April 4th. Pardon me for not being up to date on somali politics? lol Of course someone that represents "pLand" will dismiss this. What makes it fake?

Raptors lost because they were setttling for jump-shots. They started feeding Bosh in the inside late-game but it was a little too late. Good run though.

http://www.shabelle.net/news/ne2682.htm Read on....

Good read

Originally posted by Khalaf: how topics such as the disputes over Kismaayo and clan conflicts produce 100 replies or more, but over there at Sh. Nurs corner on the Islamic section on aqeedah and the deen not as much passion from the Somali Muslims, Sheik Nur calls out the man you support Yey as a traitor. What do you have to say to that?

Originally posted by Sophist: Baahbaahinta maansadan waa Anigii berri ka'ahaye Beryahaanba ma ubogin barbaartii boringka aheyde Sidii Bariis baarixey baa laga booradeye Sadexdaas dhextaal ma uga dhigey seerin iyo goon Sudaxdii sanaag iyo ma-usimey saaq iyo seer Sar kalena waa tan aan aan baarqabka u ahaa Baashoow dhiin iyo hadaad bagox ka soo roortey oo biidhikaalihii reer barsuug boobtey hadalkisa Barsanmaayo ee beesaaniyoo buntukhaaga barowsii ----------------------- Ceebey tacaal, bal waxa aan kobtan ku qorey eega. Walee odeygii awoowga ii ahaa kaw buu iga siinlahaa haduu eegatadan arki lahaa cantarobaqashka aan ku qorey goobtan.

I thought the area was called that...My fault

Somalia West? or that's out of the question?

US and Syria hold landmark talks US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice Condoleezza Rice also said "hello" to her Iranian counterpart US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has held a ground-breaking meeting with Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem at a summit in Egypt. Mr Muallem said the highest-level talks between the two countries in several years were "frank and constructive". Read more....... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6620205.stm By the way..How much debt is Somalia is in?

Originally posted by TheSomaliEconomist: ^^ Well the thing is Jacaylbaro that "President Rayale" doesnt have much of a say in the future of Somaliland or Somaliweyn. His finished for now. There is no such thing called "Somaliweyn"....Is DEAD. The moment Somalis get this...the better off they will become.

Good stuff

Originally posted by Nayruus: ^^^^^ Riyaale is just talking to himself and to the bunch of the terrorist SNM gangs that are holding guns on his head. Is not about Riyaale...That's what the public of SL want..They want OUT. Please don't give Riyaale this much credit. Go and call all the residents of SL "Terrorist" like you called Reer Mogadisho. But don't assume its only Riyaale and his admininstration that are creating this fuss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ub2WGtXVYQ ***Shakes my head*** They will never get along no matter where they go. The white man had to come in between them to calm things.

Originally posted by Lake: [QB] "Only one hospital remains open, while the US-backed government has choked off desperately needed supplies." "In June 2006 the US designated Somalia a "terror state" and accused the UIC of aiding Al Qaida. This claim provided a pretext for Ethiopia – which is in dispute with its neighbour over control of the ****** region – to invade. Since Ethiopian troops overran the capital earlier this year, a number of nationalist and clan-based resistance organisations have emerged – none are affiliated to Al Qaida." "Now the US is desperately attempting to paint the Somalis as victims of an Al Qaida plot to take over their country." "The Shabelle media organisation, based in Somalia, reported that during recent ceasefire negotiations in Mogadishu, Ethiopian military officers wanted the representatives of the ******, a major clan based in the capital, to admit that attacks on their troops were being carried out "by Al Qaida operatives". The ****** rejected the allegation and stormed out of the talks."

Interesting read.... by Simon Assaf A savage bombardment of the Somali capital Mogadishu by occupying Ethiopian forces has left thousands dead and driven over 350,000 people from their homes. Ethiopian troops, with the backing of their Somali Transitional Federal Government (TFG) allies, are attempting to crush a rebellion. Eyewitnesses describe how "columns of Ethiopian tanks ploughed into northern Mogadishu". Rockets have rained down, leaving much of the city in ruins. Several missiles hit an orphanage run by the charity SOS Children. Bodies of civilians littered the streets. In a statement issued on Thursday of last week, SOS Children said that "those who can run have done so, and others, who are more seriously wounded, have been evacuated from the hospital by their friends and relatives". According to the United Nations the situation has become desperate as tens of thousands of people, among them those seriously wounded, are trapped in the capital. Only one hospital remains open, while the US-backed government has choked off desperately needed supplies. Ethiopian troops invaded Somalia in January this year to drive out the Union of Islamic Courts (UIC) as part of the US "war on terror" in the Horn of Africa. The UIC took control of the capital in June 2006 during a popular revolt against the warlords that ruled the country from 1991 onwards. The warlords had divided the country into private fiefdoms and vied for control of neighbourhoods in a decade of violent chaos. The UIC's victory brought a brief period of stability. During its reign citizens were able to travel and work without fear of extortion by the private militias. In June 2006 the US designated Somalia a "terror state" and accused the UIC of aiding Al Qaida. This claim provided a pretext for Ethiopia – which is in dispute with its neighbour over control of the ****** region – to invade. Since Ethiopian troops overran the capital earlier this year, a number of nationalist and clan-based resistance organisations have emerged – none are affiliated to Al Qaida. The Washington-based Jamestown Foundation is a leading US authority on radical Islamist groups. Its analysts found, "Resistance to Ethiopian troops and the Ethiopian-installed TFG is inspired by nationalism, religion, economic factors and clan loyalties – all of these motivations are part of a constantly shifting pattern of allegiances in which the only common characteristic is a desire to expel foreign troops from Somalia." In 1992 US and other Western troops invaded Somalia as part of a "humanitarian intervention" during a famine. The occupation sparked an uprising that eventually drove out Western troops in 1994. Now the US is desperately attempting to paint the Somalis as victims of an Al Qaida plot to take over their country. The Shabelle media organisation, based in Somalia, reported that during recent ceasefire negotiations in Mogadishu, Ethiopian military officers wanted the representatives of the ******, a major clan based in the capital, to admit that attacks on their troops were being carried out "by Al Qaida operatives". The ****** rejected the allegation and stormed out of the talks. The uprising in the capital started when troops attempted to take control of neighbourhoods that are particularly hostile to the occupation. For nine days resistance fighters battled troops before being driven out by artillery barrages and tanks. As the fighters melted away, men in "Somali army uniforms" went on a looting spree, while occupation forces carried out mass arrests. Abdulahi Irro, a father of four from Arafat neighborhood, told the Shabelle media organisation that government soldiers looted his house as he and his family stood by helplessly. "They attacked my house and took my car, television set and clothes, money and other things," he said. Ibrahim Sheikh Mao, a resident of Mogadishu's Suuqahoola district, told AFP news that troops "are moving from house-to-house arresting people. "They entered our house and arrested three people, including a woman." One reporter saw at least 20 men being bundled into a military truck. The battle over Somalia is now threatening to engulf the whole region in war. The US undersecretary of state for African affairs, Jendayi Frazer, has accused Eritrea, another of Ethiopia's neighbours, of supporting the rebels in Somalia. The new threats against Eritrea come as US-backed Somali troops prepared to lay siege to the city of Kismayo, south of the capital. http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php?article_id=11293

You guys are so obessed with SL. Somalia doesn't need SL to move forward..You guys are giving SL too much credit. If group of people don't want to be with a party then so be it..BYE. Go with what you got.

LOOOL...This guy is entertaining atleast. Reer Burco are the most hardcore advocates for Somaliland recognition. Take a break this summer..Go there Duke. See it yourself.

Thanks Double D