Brother Addie the U.N cannot do that. any border under contention cannot be arbitrated and demarcated with out both parties stating their case. In our case who would be the represnative?

These are some questions from a logic test... 1. There is a duck in front of a duck, a duck behind a duck, and a duck in front of that one. How many ducks are there? 2. A man builds a house with all the walls facing South. One day, he looks out of the window and sees a bear walking by. What colour is the bear? 6. Which word has more letters, 'visualise' or 'fantasise'? 7. What would you call a donut shaped object made of metal that someone might put on a finger? 8. If you had only one match, one apple, a feather, but no lighter, and went in a pitch black room which contained an oil lamp, an open fire and a gas heater, which would you light first? 16. These are the instructions on a treasure map. "Starting at point A, walk twenty paces North, sixty paces due East, and twenty paces due South and dig." You follow the instructions and find you are back where you started. Where, geographically, is the treasure buried? Harder ones 4. The man was held in a cell with two doors, one of which led to freedom, the other to the gallows. With him in the cell were two warders, one of whom always spoke the truth, the other always told lies. There warders did not converse & there was no way to determine which warder was which. The man was to leave the cell by one of the doors & was allowed to ask one question of one of the warders. The man asked the question & walked out through the door to freedom. What was the question? Anybody who gets this should give them selves a big wet kiss.

What's red and gray and splashes? A zombie baby playing in a puddle of brains How do you put a zombie baby to sleep? Decapitate it, set it on fire, and scatter the ashes. What's grosser than nailing a zombie baby to a post? Watching it pull itself off and then try and eat you. What's green, blue, red, and tastes funny? A zombie baby eating a clown. What's red and sits in a high chair? A zombie baby eating a twitching, human foot. What's cuter than a zombie baby? A zombie baby with a bunny head in its mouth What's 18 inches long, red, yellow and makes women scream. A zombie baby chomping the head off the family parakeet What did the Zombie Mommy say to the Zombie Baby? "You have your Father's eyes…in your fists behind your back!" What's funnier than a zombie baby? A zombie baby dressed as Dan Rather. Hahahaha the last one is my pick.

A young blonde was on vacation in the depths of Louisiana. She wanted a pair of genuine alligator shoes in the worst way, but was very reluctant to pay the high prices the local vendors were asking. After becoming very frustrated with the "no haggle" attitude of one of the shopkeepers, the blonde shouted, "Maybe I'll just go out and catch my own alligator so I can get a pair of shoes at a reasonable price!" The shopkeeper said, "By all means, be my guest. Maybe you'll luck out and catch yourself a big one!" Determined, the blonde turned and headed for the swamps, set on catching herself an alligator. Later in the day, the shopkeeper was driving home, when he spotted the young woman standing waist deep in the water, shotgun in hand. Just then, he saw a huge 9-foot alligator swimming quickly toward her. She took aim, killed the creature, and with a great deal of effort hauled it on to the swamp bank. Lying nearby were several more of the dead creatures. The shopkeeper watched in amazement. Just then the blonde flipped the alligator on its back, and frustrated, shouts out, "Damn it, this one isn't wearing any shoes either!" How do you know a blonde's having a bad day? Her tampon's behind her ear and she can't find her pencil. :cool: it want me!

Brother Horn, my scincere condolences. things change.

Thank you brother Conquest. If any body has heard of what to homs and allepo in the early 80's when both these towns were bombed to rubble and even chemical weapons were used so as to suppress the ikhwan, must agree that the baathist's are beyond the pale of islam.

You ever come to south africa and ask for LIQAYE you'll get to me but my real name wont get you any where

maybe it would be helpfull to clear up somethings like why are you into him, and if you think he is psychic.. If you think he is psychic dont say anything to him, until you get so disgusted with him till one day you just snap at him for no reason. Yea that might work.

Yes Prime minister. Any one in the U.K who has watched this program and has read your posts will know what i mean.

Chris rock is a little to shrill for me, he is annoing and sooo holier than thou whilst he is spewing nonsense. But dont worry st.pual chick it does not make you a bad person. Mine are Eddy murphy (old is gold not to mention funny as hell). Martin (you know) Bernie Mac ( have you watched how to be a player he's was the onlypart worth watching)

I see your lightening up alittle No brother deep i would say i am dumbing down. wonder what the difference between clan politics and region politics would be .....in a certain region a certain clan would live which means u are dealing with a certain clan if not directly indirectly Mobb mizz unique said it better than me. __________________________________________________ Stung to the quck by Doctore wadani. These are websites of organisations that I am involved with and that could help other diaspora somalis. talkingITglobal is a place were somali youth with ideas and visions and who ARE actually doing something how ever small for their nation congregate . There are currently 65 somali members why not join and make it 66? (by the way let us see if you notice some people from S.O.L who are memebers). It also very usefull to you as a student with thousands of scholarships, volunteer organisations and such like. talkingITglobal-Somalia Page RESPECT Somalia works to introduce internally displaced students in Somalia to students around the world. By initiating these partnerships, we hope to boost the individual development of the students. We expect the cooperation and collaboration of broad minded people. The suggestions and ideas that you provide encourage us to lead the society. Resect - somalia branch. But unfortunatley being the cynic that i am, i will just watch this page dissapear as yusufs liver, and edna's dentures become the main topic of discusion.

Thank you brother sophist for that article. I have to agree with brother LST somalis have this innate tendency to blame all of our failures upon others in our personal lives as well as in the public arena. To give you an example when megistu haile mariam saw that all was lost and the TPLF and other groups were banging at the door's of addis ababa, his officers informed him to vacate the capital he agreed and addis fell with nary a bullet mark in their public buildings. Same thing with the NRM in uganda, with museveni at the doors of kampala Tito okello gave up the fight and flew to kenya. They did this things because they understod the enormity of a deystroyed capital city, even more so in the case of african countries were the capital is usually the COUNTRY. Compare these acts with siyad and the USC. Need i say more. Ethiopians have gotten all they need in the traitors and quislings such as aideed,yusuf,shatigaduud and their alphabet soup of political parties. This is real politik African style. A note on what che said concerning somali expansionism. I read in a U.N.D.P report that after the Han chinese, the somali is the biggest expansionist on earth. Now according to the report somalis are to the found to the east of the Awash river in ethiopia, they have pushed the afars in the north deeper in to the deadly dry denakil desert and eriteria . And now are slowly pushing the borana down in to isiolo and previous meru and akamba land. The most intreasting finding of the report is that this is totaly opposite to what the Han chinese have done in china as they are the ruling majiority whilst we are just plain old acqusitive nomads. If according to che we were a super power in the horn i think we would claim zibel 10 kms north of addis as the limit of somalia.

Farah very intreasting talking point. If we are to take virtue to mean as sister rahima has pointed out to be such concepts as patience and such like then perhaps humanity has the innate ability to exercise virtue. But this argument founders at the beggining, in its definition of what virtue is, for instance if patience is considerd an abomination in the situation in which the individual is born into then indeed he would be despicable instead of being virtuos in the eyes of his community. Okay maybe in my attempt to illustrate my point i have denigrated a universal virtue such as patience but i will render another example. Imagine if you please the Nazi's triumphing in the 2 world war. And their construction according to their sociaetal mores a new utopia upon the earth. In such a society were for instance a black man is considerd to be lower than a frog, were it is considerd legitimate and right to consider blacks less than human. Would a dissenting voice, an idividual who disagree's and finds these things to be wrong, can such an idividual be considerd to possess virtue when all he is considerd to be by his society is a fool, and a dangerous fool at that. When the definition of virtue held by his community is diametrically opposed to his own. ? This is a continuation of one of the longest running philosophical arguments in history. Locke considerd a new born baby to be a TABULA RASA meaning a blank slate which the society the infant lives in would mould according to what they consider the mores of the society. Kant and Naom chomsky on the other hand considerd infants and all of humanity to have innate qualities that would by pass any societal programming, an example Naom Chomsky used was the acquiring of speech by infants, his argument being that imitation of the parents speech is not enough to acquire speech. He argued that we all have an innate abilty for grammer and composition. All good points but i think the reality is those that define what virtue is will also define if it is learned or divine. If i was a run of the mill westerner billa ilah i would argue these points out shrilly and join my voice to the cancophony of philosophers who have dedicated their pitifull live's to such things. But alhamdullilah my virte is in the holy quran.

A terrorist is the freedom fighter who has not won yet. Examples of these: Nelson Mandela Eamon De Valera of ireland Robert Mugabe although scince 1997 they have been using the word to describe him again. Mao tsetung E.T.C

Is this a trick question?

In the course of a book a conversation I had with a friend of mine, we got to talking about how a country could determine what a true citizen is, after all the legal qualifications, and the usual sociological jargon she came to a conclusion in a round about way. it best summed up in the following quote. You are the citizen of the country that you are willing to die for!. If you agree then would any of you die for your adoptive countries. And were does that leave you in the case of somalia?

This is a link to the website with indepth looks at the most censored news items of the past 2 years. TOP 25 DAMN RIGHT INGNORACE AINT BLISS.

Mad Wife Disease A guy was sitting quietly reading his paper when his wife walked up behind him and whacked him on the head with a frying pan. "What was that for?" he asked. "That was for the piece of paper in your pants pocket with the name MaryLou written on it," she replied. "Two weeks ago when I went to the races, MaryLou was the name of one of the horses I bet on," he explained. "Oh honey, I'm sorry," she said. "I should have known there was a good explanation." Three days later he was watching a ballgame on TV when she walked up and hit him in the head again, this time with the iron skillet, which knocked him out cold. When he came to, he asked, "What the heck was that for?" She replied "Your horse called."

Mobb deep, i suggest you read my previous posts before jumping to the rescue like some nickel and dime hero. Me and smith understand each other. And in your words N'amean :rolleyes:

Brother western i have to congratulate you, perhaps the futility of politics and the utter stpudity of clan politics is becoming clearer to you. I for one am ready to hear any suggestions you or anybody elsefor that matter may have, on the issue.

The reason i have not commented about the peace train is because quite simply I know the somali character. If you keep quite we think you have lost the argument. Please let this be the last post. And let us continue with the genuine cease fire that is on going.

sue, my condolences on your families bereavement.

Brother Muraad, The reason why I said the logic to justify the assertion that Al-qaeda is behind the attack is weak , is because quite frankly they have nothing to gain, and indeed have gained nothing from the attack in mecca. Let us assume several things about saudi arabia: 1. that the population was generaly supportive at the very least of a change in goverment if not the entire "terror" campaign of al-qaeda. 2. that al-qaeda has infiltrated the saudi security apparatus (this according to western sources). Now assuming these two statements are true, logically the result of the attacks are as follows. 1. As is being reported by western media there is a marked revulsion to what "al-qaeda" has done in saudia killing innocent muslims and in the month of ramadan too. 2. it has alienated many people with good intentions as your self who refuse to give "al-qaeda" the benefit of the doubt and in my opinion should be more wary of western "impartial reporting". 3. it has mobilised the house of saud due to the righteous indignation it is drumming up, to crackdown and vet its own security forces. So brother muraad ask your self this before you make accusations of Khawarij and such like. WHAT IS AL-QAEDA'S GAIN? Al-qaeda has not made a statement because it has not killed any american or westerner, it was not a brilliant technical manouver like the bombing of the twin towers or a hotel. And to again quote the western press, no vital ameican intreast has been attacked by the killing of a couple of AYRABS. Lastly i would like to know how kowneyn and your self can accuse fellow muslims of being khawarij and wahabi. When these terms have been hijacked by the west and their lackeys to curtail the ideological basis of the islamic movement. Secondly if they are khawarij to oppose the parasite that is the house of saud then brother, you just called me and millions of muslims , many saudis at the forefront, khawarij. Please realise what you are saying has repucussions before you spew this gullible nonsense out.

Excuse me If i dont join in the very admirable theological discourse that is going on, for I have argued the point countless of times. Are we really to believe that part of a muslims plan to dethrone the saud family is to wreck total devestation in a working class arab compound(the very people whose support they are in need of), in the holy month of ramadan? Personally I think that the logic behind this attack is really weak and the only people that have gained from this attack is the west. Now the common refrain is LOOK ITS YOUR PROBLEM AS WELL. How convinient. How very convinient.