Do not mistake movement for action.

A word to the wise Now that Khartoum meeting is approaching, all the concerned parties need to attend. Even though Col. Aways has some reservation about the utility of such discussion, still we can expect some changes in the UIC camp before this meeting commences. As the popular cliché had it, you only make peace with your enemy not with your friends. Whatever happen "Hudeybia approach"? Col. Aways is totally wrong in refusing to take part of the Khartoum meeting. There is no excuse for his refusal to let Sheikh Sherif send the highly regarded delegates to Khartoum. The UIC is in a position of strength today. The TFG is cornered. The top leadership is in state of confusion and is now willing to put all their cards on the table! Why not exploit the situation the TFG is in today by giving them an opportunity to save face? The only alternative for them to stay in the game is to ask Ethiopian backup!! Why not give them a way out all the while you play your game according to Islamic principles. This is an age-honored practice. Well-intentioned Arab League has succeeded to drag the TFG to the peace table and it did this with the understanding that it already has UIC delegates on board! Why not honor their effort? What if UIC objectives can be attained through peaceful means? What if the TFG is willing to scrap all the cabinet ministers and replace with UIC members? What if half of the parliamentarian representatives volunteer giving up their seats for Islamist to fill in? Why not explore all these far-fetched possibilities (rumors at this stage) and see where the old man really stand and what he demands in return for the TFG concessions? They may have the opportunity to modify the Mpagathi constitution and make it a one that is compatible to Islam! You see there are deeply held suspicions and animosity as well between these two camps. These misunderstandings can be cleared clean with one swipe by talking in Khartoum instead of through radio wavelengths. The TFG needs Ethiopia and it is they that called Ethiopia to rescue their behind. They did this as a survival tactic thinking that UIC militias were their way to take Baidowa. They had good reason to think that way. After all UIC militia were sweeping towns in the neighboring provinces. By talking you will induce clarity to the murky political machinations. If political questions of what UICs’ and TFG’s demands are and what are they willing to concede in return is answered, then the TFG can have real opportunity to weigh in the alternatives for not bringing foreign troops. All these subtle understanding can be had by just talking. Why not start talking to each other? The UIC needs to sit down with the TFG for the sake of peace and stability for the region. That does not mean they should compromise their principle political position. Far from it, they must stand tall and remain true to their Islamic principles but they should give the old man an opportunity to reject Islamic approach to the Somalia's problem. Refusing to do so is a fatal blow to UIC credibility. Waayo-Arag Waan ku fahmay Let as look at it from the sense of real politik, what does the U.I.C have to gain from parlaying with the goverment, the past few weeks has been the impetus that has finally lifted the veil from the goverment formed in embagathi, it is leaderless and it's followers are holding it away from themselves like dirt, it has failed to rally the international community behind it [indeed its full embrace of ethiopia has deystroyed any credibility that it might have had in some western capitals, as any strategist would have seen the faux pas evident after even a cursory glance at the twisted history of the horn], talking with the goverment only gives it a level of legitamcy that it has not managed to gain in the time it had to do so, indeed by ignoring the goverment in action as well as words the U.I.C is ensuring that the "real" agenda of the ethiopian attempt to rule somalia by proxy is fully shown, this dynamic ultimatley is more profitable to the U.I.C much more indeed than wasting months in pretending to be in discussions with an authority that evidently does not exist beyond the walls of the presidential palace and the converted grainary in baidoa, and that provides a fig leaf to the ethiopian invasion of somalia. The acceptance by the goverment of the former warlords ultimatley futher undermines the logic of the experiment, the raison d'etre of the U.I.C is the defeat of the warlords to negotiate with a goverment that wholeheartedly accepts these men while ignoring the pleas of the non-armed representatives for dialouge blocks any attempt to negotiate with out the losing of face on the part of the U.I.C. Also you make the assumption that the U.I.C would remotly care about somalinimo, although admitedly many members of the movement are there by default and would be thinking along your own lines, a large group that seems to be winning the internal war in the organization, would love to draw ethiopia in to a vietnam in somalia, thereby ensuring there inclusions into the jihadist annals, these men are motivated beyond the desire to run the suburbs of mogadishu. There are many things that the U.I.C could have done much earlier than this that would have allowed them to manouvere the goverment into a grave wth its corpse crying out good riddance in support, it would have taken a view of the long term that unfortunatley I fail to see in typical somali thinking. But ultimately for the U.I.C the aim is clear cut pushing the goverment in to irrelevancy rather than breathing new life into it. That the ultimate losers in this plan is the somali people is unfortunate but ultimatley a position that they are well acustomed to.

Fruits of embagathi process. where you expecting anything else?

Embagathi process.....

if it boils down to a choice between a 30 year stadium sponsorship and $350,000 for the israelis the emirates will prevail simple economics. All so I really wish that sports could fall of the frickin radar, I watch football to relax and be entertained please tell me I am not making a political statement

He smelt it coming or he was mocking garcia which ever.

oh get of it, gerrard made a mistake and an arsenal team that dominated the liverpool side took advantage in the shape and form of Henry, there was a chronological histroy towards the goal, dont make it seem otherwise

A very disturbing website for more than the obvious reasons

^^^^^ LOOOOOOL. 1984 Really are such people the backbone of the campaign Duke? :eek:

NOOO!!! I'm a Jew Thats more like it.

And the beat goes on the ever peacefull conclusion to the Bay debacle ..............Just throw more men at it. Maleeshiyooyinkii Wasiirada Xudur taageersanaa oo Xalay soo gaaray Magaalada Waajid Nuuradin Macalin Mukhtaar (Dinow) nuradin007@hotmail.com Xafiiska Midnimo ee Jowhar, Soomaaliya In ka badan 1000 Maleeshiyo oo ku hubeysan Baabuurta dagaalka isla markaana ay daacad u yihiin Wasiirada Siyaasad ahaan taageersan Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmed kuna sugnaa mudooyinkan dambe magaalada Xudur ayaa xalay waxay soo gaareen magaalada Waajid oo 90-Mt u jirta magaalada Baydhabo. Sida ay sheegayan wararka naga soo gaaraya magaalada Waajid oo ka tirsan Degmooyinka Gobolka Bakool waxay Ciidamadaas laga soo Ururiyay deegaano ka kala tirsan Baay iyo Bakool ku soo fool leeyihiin magaalada Baydhabo oo hadda gacanta ku haya Xildhibaan Maxamed Ibraahim Xaabsade oo fikir ahaan taageersan in dowladda degto magaalada Muqdisho. Wasiirada Xudur ayaa waxay doonayaan inay qabsadaan magaalada Baydhabo kana saaraan maleeshiyada Daacada u ah Xildhibaan Xaabsade,waxaana la filayaa in magaalada Baydhabo mar kale ka dhacaan iska hor imaad hubeysan oo ka dhaca gudaha magaaladaas. Wasiirada Xudur ayaa waxay gacan dhaqaale ka helaan sida uu sheegay Xildhibaan Xaabsade Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmed,laakiin warkaas waxaa beeniyay Wasiirka Garsoorka ee Dowladda Federaalka Sheekh Aadan Madoobe. Nuuradin Macalin Mukhtaar (Dinow) nuradin007@hotmail.com Xafiiska Midnimo ee Jowhar, Soomaaliya Midnimo Information Center wararka@midnimo.com www.midnimo.com

^^^well what did he have to do in nairobi, you guys had already lost did you not? My question is what was morgan doing going back to Nairobi, hara-kiri would have been his only choice. Really the hero's the Bari boys beleive in one is a reprobate and the other is a walking shadow.

Miyaaa.....

Our dear president in his infinite wisdom and coignisant of his responsiblity towards the people of somalia proposes the pacification of somalia with the use of tried and tested troops not equitably distributed among and supported by somalis but rather the ever so efficient darawish of puntland fresh from the fantastic victories in the northeast in convoy all the way into the heart of mogadishu. Is it only me?

iqiye, what about Zakaria, Ali Bashi[ardent anti Yusuf] in Kismayu stating the fact that the Mogadishu group have failed? Also what about Hiiraales support and endorsment of the Police chief who is also in kismayu? Remember Qaynyare & Tool Sharif named their own Police chief and stated they would not work with anyone else.. Like i said Xildiban Luugaqalooc iyo Fooddiinsan et al. Well Hiiraale is free to endorse anyone he wants when ever he wants god bless him cause you see he gets to choose in kismayoo or is that what you ment to say?

Hehe really.... Well when a big man is on the scene i put on this pom poms i got somewhere in my room and practise my chanting... Yusuf, Yusuf his our man if he cant no one can.... But then again you know the drill

^^^^ Dont invest so musch of your psyche into the net to the extent that you can actually miss an internet entity. it is the 2000's but c'mon. na'mean. C'mon smith you know how prikly somalis are, the only thing that bothered our boy Maye is the graphic presentation of his escape from alcratraz, only being fat and rotund it did not highlight him as the action hero somalis all think they are aint that so GENERAL. :rolleyes: . That my story and I am stickin to it.

Haiyaa :eek: contraflow were you somali?

Really Hiiraale is under pressure?!? Well the fact is with or with out mogadishu the J.V.A will control Kismayoo, I mean duke you are a general do such simple military operations escape you, I mean your campaigns where such effective models for what is going on in Kismayoo. 1. The J.V.A needs no one to control kismayoo. 2. The J.V.A are as independent as ever in making rapprochment with whom they will ( including The boys from Bari} which is what in the end General really wanted us to realise. Anways if I have noticed anything on these boards is the patronising view of the J.V.A in assuming the cant go to the Loo with out the help of mogadishu, that they cannot make their own descision's, and that finally they will throw themselves at the feet of yeey and his minions waiting for wise leadership and benevolence.

Somali government expands...Gedo, Xuddur, Lower & Upper Juba Really, is it now to be believed what good comes from these regions rest with never tiring efforts of the jowhar group? Does expansion mean the return to rule and order, opening of goverment offices, and posting of police and local authorities? Or does it mean parliamenterian Luuga-qalooc said so? The pacification of Gedo region and the country as a whole are greatful developments As usuall horn you say it for so many of us.

Apparently Maye feels that the description of his stay and escape could have been more decorous. Escape from Jowhar. Starring a rather rotund, retarded maye.

I like Liqya, when ever Qaynyare gets mentioned he reemerges from the dark. Welcome back old man. Any how, Qaynyare came of bad in this, he has been quite past couple of days since the incident. He has not even said it did not happen which shows there is no smoke without fire. Also what happened to the demonstration that was called by tool Sharif and his boss in dayniile. The one against the Itataly, Yemen and the old enemy Ethiopia? What happened is the people of Mogadishu said enough of the lies and the demonstration has been hastly called off.. Its getting hot in hells kitchen. I did not know you cared Smith But still all of the above does not make me comprehend what Dayniile has got to do with anything, I mean if it is true that you can judge a man by the calibre of his enemies Yeey is a very small man. Qanyare is not even entitled to being called a District commissioner, but he rates in the top 10 of yeeys boogeymen. As for the demonstration wiser counsel prevailed and the advantages from not needlessly offending the frontline states were seen and outweighed any momentary pleasure the people of mogadishu would have had in burning the effigy of zenawi for the upteenth time. By the way how is our dear president doing?

Perhaps we should not bother mentioning a man like aideed who last went to the seat of his nominal power in 2001. And we have to let us take all that is said in his honour of Yeey with a pinch of salt. Just my contribution to keeping this board on mother earth. Xuseen Ceydiid oo sheegay in uu Muqdisho imaanayo, uuna taageersan yahay dedaalada ay Muqdisho ka wadaan xubanaha labada gole Nairobi Ku-xigeenka ra’isul wasaaraha ahna wasiirka arrimaha gudaha Xuseen Max’ed Ceydiid ayaa sheegay in uu soo dhoweynayo isla markaana uu taageersan yahay dedaalada nabadeynta ah & maleeshiyo xareynta ee ka soconaya caasimada Muqdisho, wuxuuna sheegay in marka ay soo dhammaato daadgureynta ergooyinka ka qeybgalay shirkii Kenya uu isagu noqonayo qofka ugu dambeeye uuna ka soo degayo Muqdisho. “Anigu Muqdisho ayaan imaanayaa, maleeshiyooyinkeygana waxaan ku xareynayaa xerooyinka†ayuu yiri Xuseen Ceydiid oo ay Muqdisho ugu dambeysay horaantii 2001. Xuseen Ceydiid wuxuu sheegay in ay qalad tahay in la eedeeyo dowladda Talyaaniga, wuxuuna ku ammaanay dowladaasi in ay ka mid tahay dowladdaha safka hore uga jira yagleelida dowladdii lagu soo dhisay dalka Kenya. Cabdishakuur Cilmi Xasan Dayniile,Muqdisho cabdishakuur48@hotmail.com

^^ which part is it that bothers you bro, coming from a small clan or coming from southern somalia? So another fella wants to rule Dayniile, they come they go, but I was thinking that perhaps a national goverment would hold other priorities than the local wrangles of this locality ( I know that people would expect me to call it a city, as per the example of any little water well smith calls a town in north eastern somalia, but really i cant, lets call it a neighbourhood.)