these people have no alternative to the T.F.G, we realise that the T.F.G is made up of traitors and blithering ****** but as I have asked over and over again what is the alternative? In a matter of weeks the goverment has done things that makes any self respecting somali believe he will never see things more shocking in his life, in the words of Xiin our cup overfloweth with humiliation and yet what suprises me is how people approach the question, the humiliation happened along time ago in waaqoyi when somalis bombed other innocent somalis and in the streets of Xamar in 1991, finally the camps at utange where was my cup overfloweth in the first place, wthiopians in xamar are just details 16 years of war on the other hand, fraticidal and sucidal war is the reality that makes somalia look so invitingly like a cunny on the map of the world. The humiliation occured in 2004 when some of us in S.O.L kept on repeating, and insisting that nothing good would come out of a conclave of warlords, that only a midget would be elected from a parliament of dwarves, that that midget was abdullahi yusuf is again mere details, instead of rejecting the entire processes in toto, we saw emotion run high and people support addow, yusuf or someother mendacious individual. But I ask and here I should use Horns caveat the sincere brothers and sisters of S.O.L for one moment to think about this disspasionately, sans emotions because I can assure you that here on the ground their is a surfeit of passion to make up for any shortfall, what is the alternative? Castro started well enough by stating how an insurgency would develop, although he did faile to stress what I have been reapeting over and over again, namely that any insurgency would occur because of clan based refusal to hand over weapons rather than any other unifying ethos and hunting down ethiopians like hunting down marines will be but a momentary side show. Castro started well enough but at that moment when all the intellect that went into thinking up such witticisms as door knob and seeing the hitherto unnoticed semantic connection between taako and taano, this intellect refused to continue the line of reasoning it had chosen, instead it chose to say that some other movement would arise, perhaps in a burst of psychedelic lights it would arise like a pheonix from the desert? Maybe this moevement would be made up of half-men and half-machines dedicated to the service of the ordinary people? I see clearly the movement that would arise, and it would be the most resilient one that has managed to survive so much upheaval, it has come under diffrent names from Barre to Adideed to Yusuf, but ascribing this movement to individuals in the final analysis the individuals who personify it, is like the futility of cutting down a 100 year old oak tree with a razor blade, namely wrong. The movement that will materialise, is the survival of the meanest and most vile, no other. That is why I agree with Horn in the final analysis we have the choice of treating the symptoms or the root cause, most of you will choose to ignore this post so as to cling to your certainties and allow your selves to rack up posts with even more asnine comments on other posters sexual orientations, riding the high horse that will allow you to look down upon others with diffrent opinions which inevitably is the perspective somalis take with anyone who disagrees with them. But some of us see the grays and the not so blacks in the proffered arguments, some of us see the opportunities in the situation even if we have to get into the septic tank that is this goverment to get to it, some of us while recognizing this goverment for what it is indeed before many of the cyber jihadists even joined this forum, well some of us disagree with this plotless and planless resistance that some advocate.

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A Somali Woman Discusses the Sharia Court and Her Cousin Who Leads It The Struggle for Somali: Warlords, Islamists, US Global Militarism and Women By AMINA MIRE I will try to spare the readers from 'famine stories,' or the downing of American Blackhawk war planes or the killing and dismemberment of 18 American soldiers in that 1993 mission, or the American military killing of a thousand or so Somalis in retaliation of the killing of 18 American Marines. I am saying this partly because the American people are being fed by one sided tragic saga about US involvement in Somalia. Hence, the 2001 Ridley Scott's Hollywood's film 'Blackhawk Down' based on Mark Bodwen's Memoir of the same name had played up the Hollywood formula: 'good guys' -- usually, white, heterosexual, viral and militaristic- fighting the 'bad guys' -- weak, black, feminized, liars and cowards. In the case of Canada, the shameful episode of the torture of Shidane Arone was quickly resolved by disbanding the airborne regiment whose members were found to be responsible the torture and killing of the Somali teenage boy in the city of Beletwn (Beletuen) . After a quick Royal Commission national prestige was affirmed and this sad episode quickly forgotten. Three simple points: First, that Somalia, similar to Lebanon has been, and still is, a victim of its highly strategic geograp wrapped around the Horn of Africa, jutting out into the Indian ocean. The French, The British and the Italians all received their slice of Somalia in order to use it to suite their global strategic needs. The history of Somalia's struggle against colonial imposition is long and rich. It is worth mentioning that before the aerial bombing of cities, civilians and military installations in Iraq, Afghanistan and now in Lebanon, as part of new total war regime, at the turn of the last century, it was the British who used aerial bombing of northern Somalia, after suffering a humiliating defeat in the hands of poorly armed Somali guerrilla resistance against British occupation of Somalia, a central component to British colonial rule of Somalia. The British, making of ample use of recent technological advices in modern warfare, mounted a swift and well-coordinated aerial, ground and naval assault on Dervish positions in the early morning of January 21, 1920, with 12 warplanes taking part in the attack, perhaps the first such weapons ever used against Africans. The British also had their own 'Islamist bad guys.' In the case of Somalia, it was Sayyid Muhammed Abdulla Hassan --a master military strategist and the greatest poet Somalia had every produced. He was also enemy number one for the British who called him the 'Mad Mullah. The British had no compunction in unleashing brute force against civilians who were suspected of supporting or sympathizing with anti-colonial guerilla fighters. We can also speak about the use of 'famine' as a powerful instrument of humiliation. This was particularly evident in United State's slow response to the 1991 collapse of central authority in Somalia and the ensuing civil war and mass starvation. When the US finally decided to get involved, rather than engaging in the difficult task of disarming the warlords and their armed gangs who were terrorizing the civilian population, Bush Sr 'sadministration had chosen to sent the US Marines in 'Operation Restore Hope' to deliver food to the starving population of Somalia without offering them hope of long term peace or security. In this way, Operation Restore Hope was a cynical PR mission designed to promote US hyper-militarism as a new means to deliver humanitarian aid. The PR nature of this mission was clear from the fact the US had refused to work under the United Nations peacekeeping forces who where already operating in Somalia. More importantly, Operation Restore Hope and its subsequent utter failure, also registers the history of US complicity in the ultimate destruction of Somalia by propping up, militarily and economically, the ruthless regime of Siyad Barre. This connection is important because Barre's regime was responsible for much of the violence which led to the 1991 collapse of centralized authority in Somalia, the subsequent mass starvation and the deaths of more than a million Somalis and the mass displacement of millions more Somalis. The second point I want to briefly touch on is the Cold War Connection to the current crisis in Somalia. From 1969 to 1977 Somalia was a part of the USSR bloc. This historic partnership had ended in 1977 after Somalia suddenly invaded Ethiopia and took over ******- a disputed region occupied for centuries by Somali nomads. A year later, with a tacit support of Jimmy Carter administration, the Ethiopian army, backed by the forces of the USSR's proxy states of northern Yemen, Libya, and Cuban forces- attacked the occupying Somali forces. The occupying Somali army was pushed back across the 1960 border between Somalia and Ethiopia, which had been drawn by European colonial powers. This was a humiliating defeat for Somalia, chased out by armies with superior weapons with the loss of our best trained soldiers in that misguided war. This was really the beginning of the end for Somalia as a modern state. The years 1977-1980 saw a succession of middle and junior ranking officers trying and failing to overthrow Barre's dictatorial regime; they were all betrayed by their colleagues and friends. Many of them were tried in sham courts and shot by firing squad in public displays of terror. Despite Barre's reign of terror, successive United States administrations, starting with Jimmy Carter and then Ronald Reagan, supported Barre's regime by supplying him with weapons, military training and with economic aid in exchange for giving the US an unrestricted access to Somalia's strategic Indian Ocean and the Red Sea ports and military installations vacated by the USSR after the 1977 fall-out between Barre's regime and the Soveit regime. While it was believed at the time that, at first, the USSR must have given Barre's regime the green light to invade Ethiopia, the USSR changed its mind after Ethiopia's own military dictator declared Ethiopia a socialist state. This change of ideological alignment had created a new political situation for the USSR. Fidel Castro was sent by the Soviets to sort out this 'family feud.' I do remember this very vividly. We wore our school and work uniforms and had been summoned to gather in a huge soccer Stadium in Mogadishu to welcome Fidel Castro --and perhaps to persuade him to convince the Soviet regime that we were their 'client state' first and that, as a result, we should not be 'dissed ' in favor of the newcomer, Ethiopia. But after many years of trying to turn Somalia- a deeply religious Muslim society to a socialist society with very little success -- the USSR was ready to try its luck with Ethiopia. From 1978 to 1980, the period between when the Russians leaving and the Americans moving in to fill the former's military installations and political spaces, we were subjected to daily aerial bombardments by Ethiopian war planes. It was a payback time. In 1980, after receiving a diploma as an assistant pharmacist, I was sent to work in a small village called Waajid in the province of Bakool. Waajid is roughly 400 km north of Baydhabo (Baidoba) and only less than 50 km away from the border between Somalia and Ethiopia. To make matters worse I was working in a hospital built by the USSR to treat victims of communicable disease such as tuberculosis but now converted to a trauma operation theatre to treat wounded soldiers coming from the frontline. . For the last 25 years I have been trying to forget what I saw with my own eyes during my one year's work in that hospital As the only assistant pharmacist in the hospital, I was responsible for the classification, proper storing and correct dispensing of medicine. I saw all sorts of wounds of war but h also unspeakable suffering of Somali nomads with curable diseases such tuberculosis crossing border from the Ethiopian side to Somalia for medical treatment. Somalis under Ethiopian rule were not often treated as citizens and there wee little infrastructure in the area of Ethiopia populated by Somali nomads. Since the hospital had been transformed to a war trauma centre, the regular patients were displaced to makeshift tents. After working in the hospital, in some cases, on 12 hour shifts, I used to work as a volunteer at a local government owned and operated pharmacy store to sell cheap drugs to the local population. We waited for the Ethiopian aerial bombing and hoped we would survive somehow. Some of us did survive. Others were not so lucky. The western nations did not come to our aid. After many years of Barre's famous propaganda rhetoric against the west we were being taught a lesson. But deep down, those of us who were born in the 1960s and grew up under Barre's false revolutionary rhetoric looked to the west for inspiration. We listened to western music and most of all to the BBC radio in Short wave radio and read forbidden western books such as George Orwell's 1984. We foolishly and naively thought that western powers did care about democracy, human rights and the freedom of thought and self-expression of all people. As Barre got increasingly weaker, isolated and vicious,; we thought that it was the right moment to get rid of Barre' terror regime by supporting progressive Somali dissents living throughout Europe, America and elsewhere. But the west did not care about us or human rights. They never did care about the human rights or any other rights of non-white peoples. As we evaluate the current US meddling in the internal affairs of Somalia, it is pertinent to remember the United States's dubious support for the man who is responsible for the destruction of Somalia. It is equally important to bear in mind deeply held grievances and counter-grievances between Somalia and Ethiopia, as we also carefully evaluate the current Ethiopian meddling of the internal affairs of Somalia. Make no mistake. Ethiopia's current involvement of the internal affairs of Somalia has both a territorial ambitions and desire to avenge the war of 1977-78 as its objectives. Bush junior and hisCIA operatives might have very little understanding of the history of US past involvement in the internal affairs of Somalia. But, before putting all their political and strategic cards into blood soaked baskets of basically drug-addicted- 'Qad/chat'-chewing warlords, or playing on the rhetoric of Islamic fundamentalism against its political enemies, or using Ethiopia as a proxy to carry its dirty deeds for them -- the Bush administration needs to engage broader spectrum of the Somali people. Of course this is not going to happen as a recent US sponsored conference on talks on peace amply demonstrated. Instead, the administration quickly rehabilitated the term "warlord" by adding the term 'secular'. Hence 'secular warlords' is used tagged to bunch of vicious thugs who were given cold hard cash to fight 'Islamic terrorism.' This is of course very ****** and will only dramatically increase support for the Sharia courts. But the US playing of the terrorist card must be read in the context of its historic collusion with Barre's regime of terror. In this way, the Bush administration's support for the blood-thirsty warlords shows a clear continuation of the U.S.'s historic collusion with reactionary forces in Somalia. Finally, I want speak briefly of the predicament of Somali women in the current struggle for control of Somalia between US -backed warlords and the Islamic courts. In short, neither group stands to protect the rights of women. In this Muslim society, Sharia is the moral foundation of Somali society, Sharia law cannot be imposed with the use of violence or the threat of violence on people if their conduct does not harm others. Hence, while stealing, raping and murder can be legitimately be punished under Sharia law, not wearing traditional Arab style veil cannot be cannot imposed on Somali women by using Sharia law. This moral belief cannot be imposed by violent means for its in the Holy Quran 'there is compulsion in religion.' We have our uniquely Somali way of dressing and imposition of currently prevalent black veil on the bodies of Somali women is disturbing, indeed. Despite Siyad Barre's reign of terror, at the cultural/societal level, the Somalia I grew up was progressive, modern and a tolerant Muslim society. The tallest building in Mogadishu is a Catholic Church. The congregation is mainly Italian but other westerners have used it to worship. Contrary to the currently fashionable andvirulent Isamaphobic rhetoric, while Somalis have resisted Christian protelyzing schemes designed to convert Muslims to Christianity, Christians themselves were respected and their places of worship were protected by State and by Islamic laws before the 1991 collapse of central authority in Somalia. Similarly, the traditionally 'Arab style' dress code-which is currently very prevalent in Somalia, was imposed onto Somali women either by violent means or through threat of violence against women. Yes, the threat of violence has been used against women in order to force them to obey a dress code which is most clearly foreign to our culture. However, it is pertinent to mention that 'traditional Arab style Islamic dress code' came to prominence after the 1991 collapse of central authority in Somalia. In the ways, the new dress code attests to the symbolic deployment of Somali women's bodies as a battlegrounds through which the war between the Islamists and morally corrupt, "chat" chewing warlords is conducted. Since, at the moment, it does not look that there is a third, progressive viable option through which Somali women can demand political inclusion, pragmatically speaking, Somali women seem to be giving a qualified support to the Islamists. This does not mean that Somali women are not conscious of their rights nor does it mean that they are not conscious of their systemic oppression under patriarchal Islamic laws. I came to the clear understanding of the plight of women under the Sharia law when I was very small. My mother, who is a daughter of a deeply respected Sheikh in Somalia and a sister of eight, including Islamic scholars, had suffered most horrible injustice under Islamic Sharia law. After my mother gave birth to four children for my father, two boys and and two girls, and when she was still nursing the youngest, a boy, my father thought that it was a time to take his third wife. My mother was devastated, not simply my father fancied a young woman but because the humiliating fashion in which she was cast aside. She knew if she asked for a divorce, my father would take away her children and leave with nothing. My mother had a total break-down. My father divorced her in front of her brothers and left her with nothing. Her brothers told her that he had the right to do this to her because ,according to the Islamic law, he has the power to divorce, or and marry women as along he kept the number of his wives to four to any given time. It is remarkable how early young girls are taught this patriarchal imperative. It is pertinent to mention that my mother's name is Halima Sheikh Awesy. As a result, my mother happens to be a first aunt of the current spiritual leader of the Sharia court in Somalia, Sheikh Hassan Dahir, Haji/Sheikh Aweys. Do I believe that Somali women will fare better than my mother under the current Sharia courts? Certainly not. But in the current state of political instability and violence, Somali women are giving the Islamists a try in the hope that they might be able to send their children to schools and live in relative security and wait till such time as when they mightbe able to acquire the political power to affect public policies and political decisions which affect their lives. Amina Mire is a Lecturer in Contemporary Sociology, Critical Race Theory and Gender/Women Studies at Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada. She can be contacted: Amina_mire@carleton.ca

Somali Anarchy Is More Orderly than Somali Government December 22, 2006 Benjamin Powell Say “Somalia” to most Americans and they will likely have visions of civil war and chaos. While accurate in the early 1990s, these visions have not been the actual situation in Somalia for most of the last decade. Unfortunately, because of yet another international attempt to install a Somali government, these visions are again becoming increasingly accurate. Somalia has been without a national government since 1991, when Dictator Siad Barre was ousted from power. Somalia plunged into a civil war as rival factions attempted to establish a new government. Interventions by the U.S. and U.N. tended to unite the Somalis against the outsiders, resulting in the famous “Black Hawk Down” episode, and ultimately, the withdrawal of U.S. and U.N. forces. Once the U.N. withdrew, a relative peace developed in Somalia. Crime and violence persisted, but not at the levels seen during the civil war. Various clan elders, warlords, and Islamic courts had power, but none were strong enough to impose themselves as the new government, and most of the fighting stopped. Once this relative peace was achieved, the Somalis began to order their affairs and adapt institutions to provide governance, even though they lacked a government. Most of the order was provided by Somalia’s customary legal code, the Xeer, which was interpreted by clan elders and informally enforced, mainly through ostracism. Islamic courts existed, but most had little influence. Islamic law was reserved mostly for matters of divorce and inheritance, while the common law covered everything else. Although Somalia is still poor, the ordered anarchy that has existed since the mid–1990s has actually translated into improved living standards. In conducting research for a new study comparing Somalia’s economy relative to 42 other African countries, my coauthors and I examined 13 different measures, including life expectancy, immunization and disease rates, access to various telecommunications, and access to water/sanitation. In 2005, Somalia ranked in the top 50 percent in six of our 13 measures, and ranked near the bottom in only three: infant mortality, immunization rates, and access to improved water sources. This compares favorably with circumstances in 1990, when Somalia last had a government and was ranked in the bottom 50 percent for all seven of the measures for which we had that year’s data: death rate, infant mortality, life expectancy, main telephone lines, tuberculosis, and immunization for measles and DTP. Furthermore, we have found that during the last years of Somalia’s government, 1985 to 1990, their performance was deteriorating compared to other African nations as their relative ranking fell in five of these measures. Since their government’s collapse, Somalia has seen its relative ranking improve in four of these measures and deteriorate in only one: infant mortality. Perhaps most impressive is Somalia’s change in life expectancy. During the last five years of government rule, life expectancy fell by two years but since state collapse, it actually has increased by five years. Only three African countries, Guinea, Gambia, and Rwanda, can claim a bigger improvement. Telecommunications is another major area of success. With a variety of companies operating without burdensome government regulation, Somalia ranks high among African countries in the number of phone lines, mobile phone usage, and access to the Internet. According to The Economist, a mobile phone call in Somalia is “generally cheaper and clearer than a call from anywhere else in Africa.” In fact, the ordered anarchy in Somalia attracted multinational corporations to the country. Coca–Cola, Dole, DHL, and affiliates of General Motors and British Airways, among others, began making investments in Somalia. Unfortunately, recent international efforts at establishing a new government in Somalia are likely to ruin what little economic progress the country has made. In 2004, the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) was created in exile with U.N. backing. In February 2006 it entered Somalia, and so far, controls only the town of Baidoa. The Somalis again have united against this attempt by outsiders to force a government on them. Unfortunately, the result has been an increase in the power of the Union of Islamic Courts (UIC), who, since June, has gained control over much of southern Somalia, including the former capital, Mogadishu. An estimated 600 militias have joined the UIC since the TFG moved into Baidoa in February. Every government of Somalia has exploited the country’s population. International meddling created the TFG and, unintentionally, a more powerful UIC. If either group were to become a true government, the population likely will once again become oppressed. In the meantime, the two groups appear headed back into civil war, which will likely result in the kind of chaos the country has not experienced since 1995. Prime Minister Gedi of the TFG recently said, “It is totally misguided not to accept the government. The alternative is chaos.” Unfortunately, he’s got it exactly backwards. It is, in fact, the attempts to impose a government on Somalia that create chaos. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benjamin Powell is Director of the Center on Entrepreneurial Innovation at The Independent Institute and assistant professor of economics at San Jose State University. Dr. Powell received his Ph.D. in economics from George Mason University. He has been a fellow with the Mercatus Center's Global Prosperity Initiative and a visiting research fellow with the American Institute for Economic Research. very intreasting link http://www.independent.org/publications/working_papers/article.asp?id=1861

Kaaliyaha xoghayaha arrimaha dibada Mareykanka Oo Muqdisho kusoo jeeda Ilo wareedyo muhiim ah ayaa sheegaya in kaaliyaha xoghayaha arrimaha dibada ee dalka Mareykanka Jandayi Frazer iyo wafdi kale oo caalami ah ayaa lagu wadaa in maalinta beri ay soo gaaraan magaalada Muqdisho. Wafdigan ay hoggaamineyso Jandayi Frazer ayaa kulamo la yeelanaya madaxda dowladda Federaalka, aqoonyahanada iyo waxgaradka beelaha Soomaaliyeed, waxayna ujeedadeedu tahay sidii Soomaaliya aysan fowdo ugu dhicin. Dhinaca kale xubnahan ayaa lagu wadaa iney maalinta berito ah Muqdisho yimaadaan iyadoo ay kulan ay kula qaadan doonto caasimada Soomaaliya Ra’iisul Wasaare Cali Maxamed Geedddi. Mareykanku ayaa isagu daneynayo in ciidamada Itoobiya marka ay ka baxaan Soomaaliya si deg deg ah ula wareegaan amaanka dalka, si aysan u soo laaban qabqablayaashii dagaalka iyo kooxihii maxaakiimta ee laga awood roonaaday dalka. Maxamuud Axmed Xasan Xuurshe xuurshe114@hotmail.com www.somaliweyn.com

soo dalkisi maha?

what is the alternative? what is the alternative? what is the alternative? what is the alternative? what is the alternative? oh and a realistic alternative please,,wet dreams on the other side of the aisle.

Keyboard waranle number 26 said: ^^One Keyboard Waranle is out alla mubaarazah style! Ready for the call, yaa Liqe? Mogadishu pacified. Yes, but what significance brother Liqaye attributed to that historic achievement? A mere apostrophe, did he not yaa Baashe? Of course Liqaye’s write up doesn’t constitute in its entirety a worthless rant, but my sweeping objections were inline, justly, with the tone of his post. When one attempts, regardless of his/her political persuasion, to paint an entire entity with one stroke, and negatively, seldom would one obliged to take him seriously. Hence my summary dismissal of Liqaye’s post! ICU committed itself untimely and unnecessary war. Untimely, yes. But was it avoidable all together, yaa Baashi? That I personally hoped a different approach before the conflict broke out is a matter of record in these boards. But when the war started and defeat seemed inevitable, I have insisted, as you know, on human dignity and thusly my call to fight on till death or victory. The alternative was defeat with humiliation; such was, in my mind, the stark choices Courts leadership faced. ICU Lost the war. No question about it. But that’s hardly a shortcoming. Wars are won and lost! ICU handed back the weapons to clans. True. And it was a good strategy to make difficult for the invading force to govern in peace. The options were to destroy Courts heavy weaponry. Time was not on their side for that to have happened, or leave it for the Ethiopia’s taking—it could still take it, but it requires additional effort as the weapons are in the hands of distrustful clans. What would you have Courts do in the above circumstances, yaa Baashi? Give their weapon to Yeey and Geedi or to Ethiopia? ICU saved Mogadishu from the urban warfare. True. And they must be commended for it. ICU didn't extend the same courtesy to Jilib and Kismayo. Not true. War was not fought in both cities. If you are talking about the region it self, it was chosen for its terrain. It’s receptive for insurgency activities I was told. At any rate, the charge that Courts spared Mogadishu from the knife and purposely sacrificed Kismayo is unfounded. It’s misinformation yaa Baashi! Good to see you back...Santaaro is back too from Nairobi. Mogadishu pacified. Yes, but what significance brother Liqaye attributed to that historic achievement? A mere apostrophe, did he not yaa Baashe? Of course Liqaye’s write up doesn’t constitute in its entirety a worthless rant, but my sweeping objections were inline, justly, with the tone of his post. When one attempts, regardless of his/her political persuasion, to paint an entire entity with one stroke, and negatively, seldom would one obliged to take him seriously. Hence my summary dismissal of Liqaye’s post! Before anyone reads this maybe a refrence to this post would be apropos http://www.somaliaonline.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=008521;p=1#000000 So let us keep the cheap theatrics to a minimum brother, I did not claim that the I.C.U had not done anything positive in mogadishu being myself in mogadishu, has allowed me clearly to see the benificence of the I.C.U in banadiir, that being said my accusation is simple, when the I.C.U handed back the weaponry to the general population and into the hands of the warlord heplers such as from the top of my head farah garamgaram in the case of dayniile, a man who had amply proven his loyalty and support to Qanyare, it knew fully well, that the security situation in xamar would deteriorate beyond what it had been before when the clan courts had atleast nominal control of 70% of mogadishu even before the full blown capture of xamar. but my sweeping objections were inline, justly, with the tone of his post. When one attempts, regardless of his/her political persuasion, to paint an entire entity with one stroke, and negatively, seldom would one obliged to take him seriously. Hence my summary dismissal of Liqaye’s post! The above was written in the vein of a cock preening itself, and as such I shall not do you the injustice of interupting this narcisistic adoration of ones grasp of english. ICU committed itself untimely and unnecessary war. Untimely, yes. But was it avoidable all together, yaa Baashi? That I personally hoped a different approach before the conflict broke out is a matter of record in these boards. But when the war started and defeat seemed inevitable, I have insisted, as you know, on human dignity and thusly my call to fight on till death or victory. The alternative was defeat with humiliation; such was, in my mind, the stark choices Courts leadership faced. ICU committed itself untimely and unnecessary war. Perhaps this is not a sign of incompetence, or perhaps you do not realise how the I.C.U and by these I mean the hardliners who while sending there wives to eriterya blundered and blithered into war others were expected to fight for them, But when the war started and defeat seemed inevitable, I have insisted, as you know, on human dignity and thusly my call to fight on till death or victory. Finally after much diging we reach the crux of the matter, perhaps it is not obvious to you [but I must choose my words carefully since I wish to include as much viturperation with out being banned from the boards] that the two ideas you are putting foward are not only morally dishonest but diametrically opposed? They are not morally honest because as it is patently obivous the death you wish people to fight for shall not be yours, will it? Do you wish me to go and buy you a daalo airlines ticket right away welcome you in xamar and push you in the right direction, to people who will be ever so eager to support you in acquiring the 40 concubines you so wish to have, because I will brother in a heart beat, or perhaps you are actually doing something for the expected victory [apart that is than your fine contributions on S.O.L wich as you can see are is the reason that I wake up in the morning] such as setting up a jihadist fund, or a fundraising commitee or perhaps victory was what you preached in one of the anti-ethiopian demonstrations you organised? The other reason you are being morally dishonest is because you fail to realise what sort of vicotry you are aiming for, if you accept that the I.C.U as an entity is dead and the fact that it did not prepare it self for the possibilty that it might have to fight under occupation, then what you expect is the disorganised masses of xamar to fight along clan lines against the ethiopians, do you expect this sort of victory to occur this year or within the decade? Finnaly with the I.C.U discredited will it not be the old certainties that people will hold on to, like clan divisions and the warlords that thrive in such a sticking morass? Finally knowing the situation of southern somalia, the 17% literacy rate , the high infant mortality rate, the fact that 40% of arable land in southern somalia is mined, the fact that 170,000 somali refugees in kenya are scorned and treated like serfs and the ones in yemen are littering the deep blue sea, can you with a straight face look a somali in the eye and claim that war, and haphazard disorganised terror bombing war at that is going to give him or her dignity? Perhaps your version of dignity and what is dignified is diffrent than what is universally accepted. The alternative was defeat with humiliation; such was, in my mind, the stark choices Courts leadership faced. No that was the stark choice that the courts created for themselves, again another sign of incompetence that I accuse the courts of but I am sure you shall indubitably write an appologia on that one. ICU Lost the war. No question about it. But that’s hardly a shortcoming . Wars are won and lost! Reading this makes me feel all tingly inside, I would describe the sensation to you but again dear brother the rules of these boards are so constricting. It is a shortcoming because the poor planning, and deficient thinking of the upper echelons of the I.C.U has led to this impasse, oh I know in emotional language you will say that it was the T.F.G invitation of ethiopian troops that has led to the national humiliation, but since we already know the calibre of men that the T.F.G includes would it not have been obvious that this would be their recourse, that even the masses of the gog and magog would have been a okay to such dwarves as yusuf or aideed? Was it not the incompetence of I.C.U leadership that gave every gold-plated opportunity for the ethiopians and the quislings in baidoa? ICU handed back the weapons to clans. True. And it was a good strategy to make difficult for the invading force to govern in peace. Au contraire it makes life difficult for the citizens of mogadishu who were very happy to get rid of that particular species of implement. The options were to destroy Courts heavy weaponry. Time was not on their side for that to have happened, or leave it for the Ethiopia’s taking—it could still take it, but it requires additional effort as the weapons are in the hands of distrustful clans. Precisely, handing over the weapons over to the the ethiopians or a T.F.G representative [for P.R purposes alone my dear dear brother] would have meant that the warlords influence would have been neutered, that isbaroyiinka would not be coming up again as they are know, or the fact that women are once again being attacked for their mobile phones would not be a fact, also the weopons and especially the heavy machinery that you talk about were not in the hands of clans, but were stored at clearly mareked I.C.U depots, which implies that the words I.C.U were not just painted on the doors but there was actual I.C.U control of the depots. just to clear the probable mispreception you had. ICU saved Mogadishu from the urban warfare. True. And they must be commended for it. Like a broken record you harp on the same theme that I beleive I have already answered, so to add my own record would make this not a post but a din of words. ICU didn't extend the same courtesy to Jilib and Kismayo. Not true. War was not fought in both cities. The war was not fought in kismayo because the people roundly rejected it, and actually started fighting with I.C.U militia even while the ethiopians were over the horizon, the war was not fought in jilib because the I.C.U planted some mines and took off. If you are talking about the region it self, it was chosen for its terrain. It’s receptive for insurgency activities I was told. You were told many things it is your choice to understand things as they are, rather than fitting it into a proscetuean bed, for your reality becomes more grosteque the more you try to shape it into what you deem correct.

Dad ka careysan hub uruurinta dowladdu sheegtay iney ka bilaabeyso Muqdisho oo gooyey qaar ka tirsan waddooyinka caasimada Qaar ka tirsan waddooyinka waaweyn ee magaalada Muqdisho ayaa saaka markii hurdada laga soo toosay la arkay iyagoo go'an kadib markii saqdii dhexe xalay ay ku gubeen taaayero iyo waxyaabo kale dadweyne ka careysan hub ururinta dowladda federaalku ay horey u shaacisay in maanta laga bilaabayo magaaladan Muqdisho, inkastoo ay saaka soo baxday in dib loo dhigay. Waddooyinka saaka la gooyey oo ay ka mid ahaayeen Km-4 ilaa Warshada caanaha iyo waddada wadnaha ayaa sidoo kale yiilay dhagxaan iyo waxyaabo kale oo lagu gooyey, iyadoo gaadiidka dadweynahana ay meel gees ah ka marayeen waddada, iyagoo qaarkoodna dhex jibaaxayey waddooyinka yar yar ee xaafadaha ku yaala iyagoo ka baqaya in dad careysan ay waxyeeleeyaaan baabuurtooda. Dadweyne fara badan ayaa saaka iyagoo raxan raxan u socda hor tubnaa hareeraha waddooyinka iyagoo ay ka muuqatay caro iyo niyad jab ay ka qabaan qaabka ay dowladda federaalku u wajaheyso hub uruurinta ay sheegtay iney ka bilaabeyso magaaladan Muqdisho oo ay tilmaameen iney ka muuqdaan dhaliilo shaki badan abuuray, isla markaana ku soo beegantay xili ku habooneyn oo dowladda federaalkuna aysan wax la taaban karo ka qabaninin nabadgelyada, xasiloonida iyo dib u heshiisiinta. Cabdishakuur Cilmim Xasan, Muqdisho, Somalia cabdishakuur48@hotmail.com

C/llaahi Sheekh Xasan “Hub ka dhigista waxaa sameyn kara ciidan Qaran oo lagu kalsoonaan karo, reer Puntland reer Muqdisho hubka kama dhigi karaan….” Siyaasiga C/llaahi Sheekh Xasan oo ka mid ahaa gudigii hubka ka dhigista ee shirkii Nairobi ayaa ka hadlay hubka dhigista ay dowladda federaalka ah ku dhawaaqday in ay ka hirgalinayso magaaladan Muqdisho ayaa sheegay in isagu uu qabo hub ka dhigista in loo wajaho si xeeledeysan oo laga fogaanayo eex, iyadoo laga fogaanayo wixii xasaasiyad abuuri kara. “Axdiga ku meel gaarka ah ee lagu soo heshiiyay waxa u qabaa in arrinta hubka dhigista loo wajaho si xeeladaysan oo ku jirin eex iyada oo laga fogaanayo wax keeni kara xasaasiyad hubka dhigistana laga hirgaliyo goob kasta hal maalin iyo hal saac xattaa aan u dhaxayn karin daqiiqado” ayuu yiri C/llaahi Sheekh Xasan oo intaa ku daray in loo baahan yahay in arintaaso in meelo gaar ah aan lal beegsanin. “Haddii aan axdiga lagu heshiiyay la raacin waxaa imaan kara wax aan wanaag ahayn, waxaan xusuustaa hadal u dhawaan yiri Cadde Muuse oo ahaa sidan (maxkamadaha waxaan u arkaa ****** shaar diimeed soo gashaday) marka anaga waxaan u aragnaa ciidamada hub ka dhigista sameyanaya ee Putland oo shaar Itoobiya soo gashaday isla markaana dowlad sheeganaysa hubka dhigistana waxaa samayn kara ciidan Qaran oo lagu kalsoon yahay, Reer Putland reer Muqdisho hubka kama dhigi karaan sababtoo ah adinka waxaad tihiin reer Puntland anagana waxaan nahay reer Muqdisho” ayuu yiri C/llaahi Sheekh Xasan oo intaa raaciyay “Ciidamada Itoobiya iyo kuwa Puntland waxay dagaal ka soo bilaabeen Puntland ilaa Xamar ay ka yimaadaan ma jirin meel ay hub ka dhigis ka sameeyeen haddiiba hubka la dhigayo waa in laga soo bilaabaa Soomaali-land ka dib Putland sidaasna lagu yimaadaa Muqdisho ma jirto in cirifka hore laga soo gudbo cirifka kale laga bilaabo” ayu yiri C/llaahi Sheekh Xasan. Xigasho Xog-Ogaal Cabdishakuur Cilmim Xasan, Muqdisho, Somalia cabdishakuur48@hotmail.com

in october perhaps like mr.oodweine said no?

Ethiopian Troops Leave Security In Mogadishu to City's Residents By Stephanie McCrummen Washington Post Foreign Service Wednesday, January 3, 2007; A14 MOGADISHU, Somalia, Jan. 2 -- The sandy road from airstrip K-50 is littered with the remnants of roadblocks, heaps of pushed-aside stones left over from when warlords balkanized this coastal capital, and rusted metal gates where Islamic militias took charge from the warlords. On Tuesday, clusters of Ethiopian troops were here and there on the road into the city, leaning against gray crumbling walls or passing in trucks along wasted yellow cornfields still sopping from recent floods. Within the city's borders, the Ethiopian troops who chased out the country's Islamic Courts movement on behalf of Somalia's weak transitional government were hardly visible. Six days after the transitional government took hold, very little security was evident beyond that which Somalis have grown accustomed to providing for themselves: roving pickup trucks filled with armed teenagers, and AK-47-toting militiamen who guard the city block by block, and clan by clan. It was the first day after Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi demanded that thousands of former Islamic fighters and citizens in general surrender their weapons or be forcibly disarmed. But with the ability of Gedi's government to provide security in doubt, almost no one complied. Only a few spectators showed up at the points the government had set up to collect guns. In an interview, the country's interior minister, Hussein Farah Aideed, said lawmakers would return this week to their town of exile, Baidoa, to approve Gedi's declaration of martial law and a plan to allow 90 days -- instead of Gedi's original timeline of three days -- to disarm militias. In what amounted to an appeal for outside help, Aideed also conceded that the transitional government was weak. "We have a symbolic government. Ministries we don't have, a military we don't have," he said, sitting in shirt and tie inside a house fortified with his personal set of guards slinging assault rifles. "We're limited." Aideed is the son of Mohamed Farah Aideed, a Somali warlord targeted by U.S. military forces in a failed raid in 1993 that led to the deaths of 18 American soldiers. In a densely populated neighborhood of Mogadishu, people still walk past the rusted parts of the U.S. Black Hawk helicopters shot down in that incident. They buy mangoes next to the rusted-out shells of tanks. They go about life in a city of salty air and bombed-out buildings and the leftover grace of old Italian arches. On Tuesday, Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi reiterated that he would withdraw his troops soon, while Gedi appealed to the 53-country African Union to accelerate efforts to deploy troops to Somalia. Perhaps thousands of militiamen who fought for the vanquished Islamic Courts movement have melted back into the city's maze-like neighborhoods, each now controlled by clans and sub-clans and sub-sub-clans. There is lingering tension around the city that nothing is settled yet, and fears remain that the Islamic fighters could reemerge in a guerrilla-style war against the government that ousted them. Aideed said the most hardened fighters had fled south with their leaders along the coast toward the Kenyan border, where they were being pursued by Ethiopian troops. The group is thought to include three suspects in the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the U.S. Navy was patrolling Somalia's coast to help prevent escapes by sea. The fighters have vanished into an area thick with mangrove forests, and Aideed said that finding them would be difficult even for the best-trained soldiers. On Monday, Kenyan authorities arrested 10 foreigners suspected of being Islamic fighters as they attempted to slip across the border. Kenyan President Mwai Kibaki said in a statement that his country would not provide refuge to people seeking to undermine regional stability. Some analysts have said, however, that for political reasons, Kenyan authorities might give refuge to certain members of the Islamic movement in an effort to avoid trouble with their own substantial population of Somalis who might be sympathetic to the exiled fighters.

The civil society was was tried in Arta 2000 the goverment wasstill born in a matter of months, right now the warlords are even nominally under control [unless gedi and co. give them the opportunity to break the leash] better to have a warlord inside the tent pissing out, than outside pissing in, a lesson the the T.N.G can so fully attest to.

No one is a virgin in somali politics again we ask what is the alternative? baashi has suggested his squeaks and tinkering, does anyone have anything fundamentally diffrent and actually based on factsto T.F.G and ethiopian control on the ground?

01-02) 04:00 PST Mogadishu, Somalia -- Their leaders slipped out of this capital under the cover of darkness. The plum jobs are gone. Their former offices were the first to be looted in a spasm of vandalism last week by angry young men. On Monday, Somali Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi renewed his offer of amnesty to midlevel officials and fighters of Somalia's now-defunct Islamic Courts Union who put down their weapons. He also issued a three-day deadline for everyone in Mogadishu to turn in their guns. But for the Islamists left behind in Somalia's long-troubled capital, the ordeal is not over. While top Islamic officials escaped south toward Kenya last week, thousands of employees, fighters and other court supporters remain trapped in Mogadishu, struggling to comprehend the new reality. Once part of the city's new elite, many have gone into hiding, fearful about retribution or worried that enemies might finger them as Islamic Court collaborators to Somali soldiers, Ethiopian troops allied with the 2-year-old transitional government, or the warlord militias reasserting control in the city. On Monday, weary Mogadishu residents tried to return to normalcy after a week of turmoil and a three-day Eid holiday. Shops and offices reopened. People ventured out on the streets. Only a handful of soldiers were visible patrolling the congested roads or guarding government buildings. Ethiopian troops seen in public generally drew large crowds of Somali onlookers, who would stand together in groups and observe the soldiers from afar. Most of the city quickly has adapted to the fall of the Islamists, resuming activities once discouraged. Cinemas reopened. Children played soccer again on the beach. Vendors of khat, the leafy stimulant, resumed the daily deliveries in the marketplace. But supporters of the courts remained largely in the background. Some still defend the courts and predict resurgence of the once-powerful alliance of Islamic leaders. But others insist they were misled and exploited by an organization that fell victim to infighting and greed. "It was a black day for Somalia," said one midlevel court official, referring to when Islamist fighters abandoned Mogadishu on Thursday to advancing troops from Ethiopia and Somalia's transitional government. The official, who was too afraid to have his name or former position revealed, said the courts began to split in recent weeks into two factions. One wanted to pursue negotiations with the weak transitional government; another was pushing for an attack on Baidoa, the temporary seat of the government. The latter group won out , only to find their fighters routed by Somali forces and more than 4,000 Ethiopian troops. Nevertheless, he said he had no inkling Wednesday that the movement he devoted his life to would collapse the next day. Co-workers phoned him that evening with rumors that his bosses had fled . It wasn't until he heard the radio the next morning that he realized the courts had disintegrated. "I was just an employee," he said. "They didn't invite us to go with them." Now he's scrambling to find another job to support his children and turning to his clan for protection. Afrah Adan Gagale, 27, a former Islamist fighter, said the court's leadership was corrupted by power and its sudden success. The courts seized Mogadishu in June after a surprising victory over U.S.-backed warlords, bringing a degree of stability to a country that had been without an effective government since 1991. "Their ambition was high, but they had no plan," Gagale said. He blamed the court militia's defeat on conflicting orders from superior officers, who first called for an attack and then a retreat. Many court supporters accused top security officer Yusuf Mohammed Siyad of mishandling the standoff. It was Siyad who issued the seven-day ultimatum for Ethiopian troops to leave the country and later publicly welcomed Islamic jihadists from around the world to come and fight in Somalia. Such rhetoric pushed Ethiopia to attack the Islamists on Christmas Eve. "We could have stood up to the Ethiopians, but we were told to retreat," he said. "It was a betrayal." He added that the courts collapsed before paying fighters their $200 monthly salary. Jamila Abdi Abdullahi, 21, is the mother of two small children and the wife of one of the Islamist militias' commanders. She and her husband were adherents to one of the courts' most hard-line factions, known as Shabab. She first worked as a nurse, and later picked up a gun to join fighters near the Ethiopia border last week. Her husband fled with other Islamic leaders Thursday. She has stayed indoors since, afraid of being attacked. She hoped to join her husband in Kismayo and resume the struggle against the government. But by Monday, Islamist fighters had again retreated, this time toward the Kenya border. Government soldiers held the port city of Kismayo. "My work is to defend Islam and help those defending against the enemy," she said, predicting the courts would return to power soon. "Next year, we will be back in Mogadishu." http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/01/02/MNGT0NBDHA1.DTL

Is there any legal dispute regarding my legitimacy as President of Somalia? A question asks by Mr.Abdullahi Yusuf to the Somali population By: Aw Umurow 1/12/2006. Email: bulomarerta@yahoo.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Abdullahi Yusuf said; “since I was elected by all the warlords of Somalia, believe me it didn’t come with a cheap price tag. Today my placement represents a divine providence with no denial, and no one is permitted to challenge it. Rest assured that I will be persistently pushing my administration go beyond Baidoa all the way to Kismaio.” We are Somalis, we are not the world! And we will play by the Somali rules. Somali government normally serves the interest of its clan. My administration is not going to change that tradition because we don’t share it with the world. As a President, my responsibility is to promote re-establish my clan dominancy onto Somalia as whole and onto Jubba-land as particular to become part of ******land. My late cousin President Siad Barre may his soul rest in peace was in Power for 21 years, I misunderstood then, but that sort of thing happens all the time as humans error. He never promoted human ideals, never respected human rights, never secured justice or equity, but still he was respected by all with his own way running things. He always gave his opponents an offer they could not refuse! You know what I mean. Although regrettably he was overthrown by me in the first instance and by the ******. His departure saddens every ****** today, it aggravates me most of all. I recall his dignity and how he was exalted by the ******, as well as Digil and Mirifle and used to call him Our Father, long live forever!!!! Keep ruling over us forever and so on. I used to sing myself with Mr. Abdulqasim Salad Hassan, and Hassan Dahir aweys and many more in Mogadishu and Baidoa. So, doing injustices was his specialties, trampling the peoples' rights was his field, and the intimidation and humiliation of Digil and others was unmatchable. So why the pains, sufferings and afflictions I am about to do are complained today to the world forums when I haven’t started yet or shown my miracles? Am I a less President? Where were the rightful owners of Gedo, Lower Jubba, middle Jubba and Lower Shabelle when He airlifted His people to those lands? Why am I associated with warlordism, deceit, destruction, distortion and lies, when I haven’t exercised my rights yet? Why are you making life more difficult for me when I was making my plans for over 30 years and ignored? Where is Justice? Whether you like it or not, the presence of Ethiopian military in Baidoa is not to rebuild the ruins caused by ******, or to restore the infrastructure in Mogadishu, Marca, Barave or Afgoi, I am not interested in Mogadishu, nor have the intention to alleviate poverty from those who couldn’t protect their lands in the first place. My government will emanate its existence from Puntland technicals, and Ethiopian armoury tanks, fighter jets, missiles and the secret weapons we have in mind and in stock, all coming to Baidoa. Our position is very clear and will continue to resort any force which I don't find a better approach to governance as proved by me in the past in Puntland. Remember I crushed every one who came across my way, and I swear to Melees I will do it all over again. My administration, my IGAD and all my allies do not accept in the least accountability before any one! My legitimacy to govern Somalia is approved and supported by the International community, Yemen, the United Nations, and especially by the Security Council. My previous administration as President has left a positive legacy in my Homeland **********-Puntland even though it is under populated! You can ask General Adde Muse! Not the damned Jama Ali Jama who annoys me even today by his existence. But I chased him running, didn't I? Today, it will not be expected ****** or others similarly rejecting what Prime Minister Melees Zenawi and I about to offer to Somalia. And after our victory becomes apparent, the extensive deals my cousin Siad Barre used as roadmap compels me today to exemplify as essential for my governance. We are not here to put wealth and effort in the service of peace, stability, prosperity and the happiness for the Somali people. Our commitment to aggression and war is obviously legitimate and understandable. But my friend Meles-Zenawi said; "It is called salvation"! It is not a war, destruction or killing of thousands of innocent lives in Southern Somalia, it is about giving a land that owns no one to a people who wants more lands.” it happens all the time. He considers himself obliged to us for doing this favour to the suffering my ****** people, and on numerous occasions displayed empathy towards our plight, even the Prime-Minister of Somalia Mr. Ali Ghedi, Colonel Mohamed Nur Hassan shaatigaduud and many members of the parliament agreed to that, even though they're accused being blindly cooperating with me. You should seen My parliament giving me a round of applause and clapping to my speeches. I love being a president more than anything else in the world! and every Somali knows that I will kill for that. I hope this demonstrates, sincerity, respect, and agreed upon by all Somalis, I am also confident that the Islamists in Mogadishu will play an instrumental role in the establishment of federal government after laying down their weapons. We believe this approach based on truth and Justice will definitely bring a remedy to the Somalia problem. The Islamists should go back to Galgaduud where they belong, or face tragic consequences! We know that we are geographically and spiritually not that far apart. Our cognizant in Somalia affairs also are almost matching but not quite the same, but because I am from a ****** sub-clan, I do things different than ****** or others, that's what makes me always the winner. Go back to study my history, see how I love wars! even though I never won a real one. We will also extend our hands of friendship to all Digil and others, we are all inclined towards their own benefit, extending a helping hand to them, particularly those who have the farming skills to work in our future fields we are about to capture very soon. Those in need who is been driven out unjustly from their inhabitants by the Islamists will be enlisted in a wide refugee camps, and their children will be given special care by General Adde Muse, my assistant who will be in charge and has the experience to do that kind of work. The youth in the camps will be given jobs, the aging will be exterminated, the educated ones will not be returning to Somalia to cause further troubles, this is sincerely will benefit everyone, every truth-loving Somali, seeking justice, dignity, respect, good-life and perfection as Your late-father placed wisely prior the 16 years of unforgettable ****** destruction. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My conclusion, This is a solemn promise from the President of Somalia, no one's old profession will be taken, and will remain available to each and everyone's choice! I say; 'let them go back unarmed to the red sands in Galgaduud. And then let us worry about politics, religion, telecommunication, education, banking, shipping-lines, airline-businesses, printing counterfeit monies, taking extortion money etc. and most of all, who shoots by who? or who runs the show? I guarantee, You will never find a fairer President than I do. Trust me, my word is as valid as a written contract. Anyway, whether you believe me or not this is what I always dreamt to do even though I have never said it openly, someone must be spying on me, my security level should be heightened and some extraordinary arrangement be made my guards to be more watchful, or better ask Meles-Zenawi to give me special guards that do not speak Somali language. I hate asking him everything, he is really unbeatable generous friend, even though I do not fully trust him and Ali Ghedi too, another ******-Tigre. Nowadays even the Ashraaf also are becoming unpredictable! look, who would've thought Shariif will act this way? Isn't he ungrateful? Every time I wanted to reason with him, I had to pay him in Euros. He doesn't care about his people, he hears from the throat, not from the ears! I am glad that he is no longer bothering me, from now on; 'he is in Abdiqasim's court and the Islamist's problem. By: Aw Umurow. Baidoa Jinaay. Email: bulomarerta@yahoo.com webmaster@maayland.com

Dadka ku nool Gobalka Banaadir oo siyaabo kala duwan oga hadalay qaabka loo qaadayo Hubka yaala Magaalada Muqdisho January 05- 2007 HornAfrik, Mogadishu Dadka ku dhaqan Gobolka Banaadir ayaa ku tilaamay arrinta hub aruurinta ee laga samaynayo gudaha Magaalada Moqdisho inay tahay mid u gaar ah oo kaliyah Magaalada tan Muqdisho islamarkaana ayna la qabin gobalada kale ee dalka Soomaaliya. Iaydoo maalinta barintana ay shaaca kaqaaday dowlada KMG ah inay bilaabi doonto howl galo hubka lagu aruurinayo kagadaal markii ay mudadii 3 cesha aheed ay ku e keed shalayto. Inta badan dadka reer Muqdisho oo iyagu ku kala sugan Meelaha la iskugu yimaado ee Magaalda Muqsdidho ayaa waxay siyaabo kala duwan oga hadleen qaadbka ay u arkaan sida suura gal ay u tahay in hubka la aruuriyo Waxaana dadka qar ay sheegayaan inay tani tahay mid lagu degdegay xiligaana aan loo baahnayn in qaabkaan loo aruuriyo iyadoo islamarkaan ay gobalada qaarkood ay si aad ah u buuxaan hub.kale Qaar kamid dadkaasi oo Hornafrik u waramayey iyagoo jooga Goobahooda Ganacsiga ayaa sheegay intooda badan arrinta hub aruurinta ee dowladdu ka dhawaajiday inay tahay mid lagu deg degay islamarkaana waxa ay sheegeen in ka hor loo baahnaa in ay wax qabato Amaanka si loo helo isku halayn loo dhiibi hubka Cilmi dheere oo asagu ah dadka Ku dhaqan Gobalka Banaadir ayaa Hornafrik u sheegay ama ku timaamey in arrinta hub aruurintu tahay mid wanaagsan balse loo baahnaa ka hor in Amaanka waxlaga qabto. Halka dadka qaarna ay aaminsan yihiin inay haboontahay in dadka qoryaha haysta la dhiira galiyo si markaas ay u sahlanaato in si fudud looga aruuriyo Hubka Magaalada oo dhan Inaksoo dakaan ay diidanaasho ka muujinayaa hubka in laga aruuriyo ayaa horey Ray'san wasaaraha Dowlada KMG ah Soomaaliya Cali Maxmed Geedi waxa uu labdii bishaan ayni ku jirno uu sheegay in hubka yaala Magaalada Muqdisho la iskugu geeyo goob uu cayimay xiligaas mana jiraan ilaa iyo hada cid si toos ah u gudbsay hub iyadoo wasiir kuxigeena gaashaandhiga Salaad Cali Jeelle uu sheegay in maalinta barita ah oo ay taariikhu ku beegantahay January 05- 2007 laga bilaabi doono hub aruurinta Magaalada Muqdisho

Should just be called the bussiness man and get it over and done with no....?

Qaarka mid ah wadooyinka deegaanada Magaalada Muqdisho oo is baarooyinkii dib loogu soo celiyey xiliyada Habeenkii January 05- 2007 HornAfrik, Mogadishu Wadayaasha gaadiidka qaada dhagaxaanta iyo carada ee ka shaqeeya magaalada Mudisho waliba inta u dhaxaysa Muqdisho iyo ceel macaan ayaa cabasho ka muujiyey kooxo Maleeshiyooyin ah oo jooga inta u dhaxaysa deegaanka galgalato iyo xaafada waxaracade ee Magaalada Muqdisho kuwaas oo ay dhibaatooyin kala kulmaan. Darawalada wada gaadiidka dhagaxa iyo jayga iyo waliba carakaawada ayaa sheegay in wixii kadanbeeeyey markii Magaalada Muqdisho ay kabaxen golihii Maxaakiimta islaamiga ay soo baxeen kooxo maleeshiyooyin ah oo is baara dhigta inta u dhaxaysa waxaracade iyo galgalato kuwaasoo bilaabey inay lacago baad ah ka qaadan gaadiidkaasi. mid kamid darawalada wada gaadiidkaasi kashaqeeya wadadaasi oo ka gaabsaday magaciisa in la sheego ayaa hornafrik u sheegay in kooxahaasi intooda badan ay dhigtaan isbaaro xiliga habeenkii ah islamarkaana wixii lacaga oo ay doonaan ay qaataan taasoo uu tilmaamey. In ay keentay in intabadan la iska dhigo gaadiidkii halkaasi ka shaqayn jiray waxaa kale oo uu sheegay darawalkaasi in mudo 6 maalmood ah uu kuyimid hakad weyn sababo lala xariiriyey is barooyinkaas. waxaana kale uu kawaramey sida xiligii hore halkaasi ay oga shaqan jireen iyo sida hada ay isku bedeshay xaalkeedu. Nabadoo Axmed Sheikh Maxamuud oo asna kamid ah dadka ku dhaqan deegaanka galgalato ayaa Honafrik u sheegay in dhaqdhaaqa gaadiidkii ee wadadaasi ka joogsaday oo iyagana saameyn balaaran ku yeeshay iyo waliba sidoo kale is baarooyinkaan dib loosoo dhigtay inta u dhaxaysa deegaanka Galgalato iyo Magaalada Muqdisho. Kooxaha Maleeshiyooyinka ah ee jidgooyada halkaasi dhigtay ayaa waxay bilaabeen in dhibaatooyin ay halkaasi ka gaystaan habeen hore ayey aheed markii magaalada Muqdisho duleedkeeda ay xabad ku dhufteen gaari isagu nuuciisu ahaa Ti.Am oo xiligaasi marayey halkaasi kuna sii jeeday deegaano kamid ah Gobolka Sh/dhexe.halkaasi oo uu ku basbeelay gaarigaasi isagoo dhaawac uu ka soo gaaray 3 qof oo kamid ah dadkii rakaabka ahaa ee gaarigaasi saarnaa. Wadada isku xirta deegaanka galgalato iyo magaalada Muqdisho ayaa jid gooyooyinkii horey u yiilay muda 6 libood ka hor ah waxaa burburiyey Ciidamadii golaha maxaakiimta islaamiga ah ee ka arimin jiray gobolka banaadir.hasa ahaatee markii ay meesha ka baxeen ciidamadaasi ayaa waxa ay kooxahaasi bilaabeen inay dib u soo dhigtaan is baarooyinkaasi islamarkaan aay lacaga baad ah ka qaadan iyadoo aysan ilaa iminka jirin cid tilaabo kaqaaday kooxahaasi dhibaatooyinka ka gaysanaya inta u dhaxaysa deegaanka galgalato iyo Magaalada Muqdisho.

Ineed it is good that all of you can have the luxury of principals, but in the ground in mogadishu most assuredly that is not the major consideration, people could care less for the broad sweeping ideoligies that are so endearing to the somalis in the diaspora far from the hubbub and madding crowd. Secondly why is it so difficult to directly argue with the IDEAS that Brother Baashi has put foward rather than making snide remarks and calling into question his personal integrity, which is most assuredly not the point,for there are people on this forum that are in much greater danger of having that particular accusation leveled against them also if people have not noticed this is an internet forum and all such accusations are transistory. Why do we insist on accusing cyber entities of such silly notions? Futile.

oh look all the armchair mujahids are having they prayers answered, must be another example of the very special relationship they have with God. Al-Qaeda calls for Iraq-style jihad in Somalia http://www.somaliweyn.com/pages/news/Jan_07/5Jan15.html

Wadaad kind

And a view from a pro-goverment website so that people can realise that this actually happened... NAIROBI: Xildhibaanno ka tirsan Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya oo lagu xirxiray maanta Magaalada Nairobi Posted to the Web Jan 05, 15:16 Nairobi (PP) - Xildhibaanno lagu qiyaasay inay gaarayaan ilaa 7-xildhibaan ayaa lagu xiray Magaalada Nairobi ee dalka Kenya, waxaana la sheegay in booliiska dalka Kenya ay ka soo wadeen Hoteela ay deggenaayeen. Wararka ka imaanaya Nairobi ayaa waxay sheegayaan in xildhibaannadan la xirxiray ay ahaayeen kuwo fikir ahaan raacsan Guddoomiyaha baarlamaanka Shariif Xasan Sheekh Aadan oo isagu ka baxsaday Dowladda Federaalka Soomaailya. Lama garanayo illaa iyo hadda sababta dhabta ah ee loo xirxiray xildhibaannadaas, balse wararka qaarkood ayaa waxay sheegayaan in loo xirxiray sababo la xiriira hadallo ay yiraahdeen oo liddi ku ah dowladaha Bariga Afrika, balse warkaan ayaan ahayn mid la rumeysan karo. Booliiska Kenya ayaa la sheegay inuu su’aalo weydiinayo xildhibaannada la xirxiray oo wararka qaarkood ay sheegayaan inay si sharci darrro ah ku joogeen Magaalada Nairobi ee dalka Kenya. Si kastaba ha ahaatee, xarigga xildhibaannadaan ka tirsan Golaha Baarlamaanka ayaa waxay ku soo beegmeen iyadoo maanta uu ka dhacay Magaalada Nairobi kulan ay yeesheen Kooxda Xiriirka Caalamiga ah ee Soomaaliya sidoo kalena uu ku sugan yahay Nairobi Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmed. Wixii warar ah ee ku soo kordha xarigga xildhibaannadaan kala soco aqriste Shabakadda wararka Soomaaliya www.puntlandpost.com haddii EEBBE ogolaado. Maxamed Xuseen Jantiile Wakiilka Puntlandpost - Mogadishu E-mail: puntlandpostmog@hotmail.com

Ra’iisal Wasaare Geedi oo maanta Qudbad Niyad dhis ah u jeediyay Qaar ka mid ah Ciidamada Xoogga Dalka Soomaaliya Jimco, January 05, 2007(HOL): Ilaa 3837 Askari oo ka tirsan Ciidamada Xoogga dalka Soomaaliya ayaa maanta waxaa lagu rigeeyay Barxadda Xaruntii Xisbiga ee Magaalada Muqdisho, halkaasi oo ay ugu qudbeeyeen mas’uuliyiin ka tirsan Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya oo uu horkacayay Ra’iisal Wasaare Cali Maxamed Geedi. Ciidamada la isugu geeyay Xarunta Xisbiga oo aaney ahayn markii ugu horyesya oo halkaasi loogu qudbeeyo ayaa waxay isugu jireen kuwo howl-gab noqday, kuwo ku sii socda iyo kuwa weli shaqeyn kara balse aan daryeel heysan. Ra’iisal Wasaaraha Xukuumadda Federaalka Soomaaliya Prof. Cali Maxamed Geedi, Wasiir ku xigeenka Gaashaandhigga Salaad Cali Jeelle iyo Wasiirka Macdanta iyo Biyaha Maxamuud Salaad Nuur ayaa Ciidamadaas u qudbeeyay waxayna u jeediyeen hadal niyaddooda dib u soo nooleeyay oo ahaa in la tayeynayo Ciidamada Xoogga Dalka Soomaaliya. Ra’iisal Wasaare Cali Maxamed Geedi ayaa u sheegay Ciidamadii uu la hadlayay in Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya ay dooneyso Ciidamada Xoogga Dalka Soomaaliyeed in ay noqdaan sidii ay ahaan jireen xiligii hore, wuxuuse ka codsaday Ciidamada in ay diyaar u noqdaan in ay la shaqeeyaan Dowladda, iyadoo dowladdana ay xuquudooda miiska saari doonto. Ra’iisal Wasaare Cali Maxamed Geedi waxaa uu u sheegay Ciidamadii uu kula hadlay Xaruntii Xisbiga in Madaxweynaha Dowladda Federaalka uu yahay nin Mileteri ah oo aan moogeyn Ciidamada Xoogga Dalka Soomaaliyeed, isaga qudhiisana uu yahay Dhal Mileteri, sidaas darteedna ay kalsooni muujiyaan. Ra’iisal Wasaare Geedi waxaa uu sheegay in uu aad ugu faraxsan yahay in uu arko Ciidamadii Xoogga dalka Soomaaliyeed oo is-abaabulaya, kuwaasi oo sida uu yiri ay xuquuqdooda xaqiri jireen maamulladii dalka soo maray iyo weliba Maxkamadihii Islaamka oo uu ku eedeeyay in ay necbaayeen saraakiisha Ciidamada iyo dadka aqoonyahannada ah. Waxaa uu ku baaqay in laga joojiyo Siyaasadda dowladda Federaalka xanta ah in ay dowladda dooneyso in ay kaliya hub ka dhigis ku sameyso Magaalada Muqdisho, wuxuuna warkaasi ku tilmaamay kuwo aaney waxba ka jirin, wuxuuna caddeeyay in ay dowladda hub ka dhigista dalka oo dhan ka sameyneyso, balse waxa magaalada Muqdisho loogu soo hormariyay ay tahay iyadoo Muqdisho ay tahay Caasimaddii Dalka oo aan la kala lahayn. Wuxuu ku cel celiyay Ra’iisal Wasaare Geedi in ay Ciidamada u diyaargaroobaan ka qeybqaadashada hub ka dhigista iyo sugidda ammaanka, isagoo xusay in ay dowladdu dhawaan dib u howlgelineyso Saldhigyada Booliska, iyadoo maalintii shalay ahaydna la dhaariyay Xubno ka tirsan Golaha Garsoorka Dowladda Federaalka, kuwaasi oo iyana howshooda qabsan doona. Ra’iisal Wasaare Cali Maxamed Geedi waxaa uu Ciidamada Xoogga Dalka Soomaaliyeed ka codsaday in ay la shaqeeyaan Ciidamada Itoobiyaanka ah ee kaalmeynaya Dowladda Federaalka, isla markaana ay iska iloobaan wixii kala raacay labada ciidan sanado hore, isagoo caddeeyay in ay Ciidamada Itoobiyaanka iyo dowladdoodaba doonayaan in ay wixii horay u dhacay ku bedeshaan derisnimo wanaag iyo walaaltinimo. Sidoo kalena waxaa Ciidamada la hadlay Wasiir ku xigeenka Gaashaandhigga Xukuumadda Federaalka Soomaaliya Salaad Cali Jeelle oo sheegay in Ciidamada Xoogga Dalka Soomaaliyeed looga baahan yahay in ay ka qeybqaataan hub ka dhigista maalinta berri ah ay dowladda bilaabeyso, isagoo sheegay in Ciidamada Xoogga dalka Soomaaliyeed ay yihiin kuwa la rabo in ay dadka hubka ka qaataan, kuna ilaaliyaan. Kulankan dhexmaray Ciidamada Xoogga Dalka Soomaaliyeed iyo Mas’uuliyiinta sare ee Dowladda Federaalka ayaa wuxuu ku soo beegmayaa iyadoo maalinta berri ah ay Ciidamada Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliyeed iyo kuwa Itoobiyaanka ay doonayaan in ay Muqdisho ka sameeyaan Hub ka dhigis ka soo gudubtay seddex maalmood oo dadka Muqdisho degan loogu baaqay in hubka iska geeyaan Xarunta Villa Baydhabo iyo Dekeddii hore ee Muqdisho. Ugu dambeyntiina Ciidamada Xoogga Dalka Soomaaliyeed oo tan iyo markii ay bur burtay Dowladdii hore aan helin wax daryeel ah ayaa maanta waxay awoodi waayeen in ay Qudbaddii Mas’uuliyiinta dhegeystaan iyagoo taagan, iyagoo sida sawirka ka muuqda iska fariistay markii ay cabaar taagnaayeen. Xiligii Dowladdii Carta ee uu Madaxweynaha ka ahaa C/qaasim Salaad Xasan ayay heleen xoggaa daryeel ah, intii ka dambeysayna waxaa loo sheegi jiray qudbooyin ballanqaadyo wata oo aan wax loogu qaban, waxaana horay isugu keenay Hoggaamiye Kooxeedyadii Muqdisho ee Dowladda Federaalka ka tirsanaa xiligii ay Dowladda Federaalka Muqdisho iyo Jowhar kala deganeyd iyo Maxkamadihii Islaamka oo soo xusuustay markii ay dagaalka la gelayeen Ciidamadii Itoobiyaanka ee ka awood roonaaday, maanta oo ugu dambeysayna waxay ballanqaad kale ka heystaan Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya oo iyadana la eegi doono waxa ay u qabato. Salaad Iidow Xasan (Xiis), Hiiraan Online sxiis@hiiraan.com Mogadishu, Somalia

Geedi oo sheegay in hub ka dhigista gobollada oo dhan laga hirgelinayo