Silence was a language I spoke fluently Violence was a friend I knew too well Loneliness was a companion I held to dear Pain, pain was a lesson I was thought to bear Love was an emotion I was known to scorn That is, truth be told Until I met you For I’ve found love To be more valuable than Gold I’ve found companionship In our conversations Solace in togetherness Pleasure I found In your arms, with a grin I bear And peace, that of mind I now hold dear Above all else

War Balaayo, that was beautiful. Simple yet complex and thought provoking also laakiinse It leaves me kind of feeling sad.

Loool, I got jokes huh. Anyway You're welcome and why were you scared Ted Bundy, I believe, is dead.

Beg him kulahaa, lol I guess you haven't heard of alimony huh?

Originally posted by Mobb_Deep: Ms Word, afkaaga caano laguqabay.. Lol, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

I didn't mean to be insulting and for that I apologize. My "argument" is; Philosophers (except Socrates) could find "The truth" they search for in the Quran Because Socrates died before the Quran was revealed However, he could of found "the truth" he searched for in another Kutab Therefore The Truth can be found in revealed knowledge (In Islam to be exact) I'm speaking, of course, from the point of view of a Muslim and I understand that you might feel inclined to disagree because my "argument" which really is rather an opinion, isn't logical nor reasonable to you since you don't hold the said Faith as I. Clearly, as you can see I rely on my faith whilst you rely on logic so lets just agree to disagree and live happily ever after.

because Most Seattlelites,proven by the low turn out at the premiere of "Rajo", aren't willing to pay $10. to see a movie.

You should watch the original, the Japanese version, if you think Ring 2 is scary, Waa acuudi bilaysanaayay the whole time. Also check out, If you are into suspense movies Identity and Taking Lives.

Khaleej, Congrats and May allah bless the union. Ramla, welcome Abaayo. Anyway, I'm going to The Netherlands, France and maybe the U.K in the late summer Insha'allah.

Sweeter, I prefer Men. Legend Welcome. The reason I believe they call it a "dream girl" is because dreams rarely come true laakiinse I hope you guys all find a girl who has all those attributes you listed Insha'allah.

^^^Isku Xishood. Originally posted by sky.african: thats why i dont understand why ppl still respect afweyne. the daanyeer died in a nigerian toilet. Sky, I can't blame you for you're just a product of your environment and as the saying goes; hate breeds hate laakiinse maandhow have respect, regardless of your feelings or opinion, for the dead.

Originally posted by Mutakallim: This is not the Poetry forum it is the Debate forum. Do you not agree? Touche 1. These Philosophers (namely the ones mentioned in the original post) blindly searched for the truth. 2. Except Socrates (which means that Socrates did not blindly search for the truth; the "except" cannot mean anything else in this context ) 3. Though I am sure there was some sort of Kutub at his (Socrates) time. Therefore , 4. Socrates followed some Kitab or Kutub of his time (this is a necessary inference in logic, because mentioning that there was a Kitab at the time of Socrates has no relevance unless you mean to say that he "followed the Kitab". To employ the old chestnut example, if someone writes: 1. Socrates is a man 2. All men are mortal It's apparant to me atleast that you're in dire need of reading glasses, Maandow as I've already stated before and as I will right now, for your poor vision have led me to be repetitious as a rewind button, I never made the claim that Socrates followed some sort of revealed knowledge. If this supposed argument was arguing for anything it would be in my opinion, though not necessarily yours since "logic and reason" have quite addled your brain, that the truth these martyrs of thought searched for they could of found it in the Quran, which I'm sure you were once familiar with, however except, the "except" quite shockingly meaning something else in this context, that Socrates is older than the Quran thus He could of found what he searched for in another "Kutab" per se and though you "very much doubt that there was any reliable scripture of revelation at the time of Socrates" thus disagreeing with my point of view, the burden of proof now rests on your shoulders. Philosophy whether you disagree with me or not is a form of a belief for it is a mental act, condition, or habit of placing trust or confidence in another, in my case the "other" being Allah and his Kutab's whilst for a philosopher it's reason As I've wrote in the above quoted statement; whether you disagree with me or not reason/logic are forms of belief since one places confidence and trust in them. Philosophers, these "martyrs", switched beliefs and simply use one to judge another for I'm sure, if I were to guess and use you as an example, at one time in your life you have had confidence and complete trust in faith and then later in your life you've placed your trust and confidence in Logic. You just switched beliefs. You see, there are a great many Dieties in this world, and the only way we can ascertain the "true" one is by employing our reason. Thus far reason, I'm guessing, hasn't deemed one true or has it?

War Balaayo, Starsky and Hutch in the words of Rodney King, can you guys just get along?

Maandhow, this is not a symposium in which you pin point the weakness' in my "argument" or lack of. I just found it amusing that you considered these men to be martyrs supposedly because they have boldy gone where no men have gone before. Originally posted by MsWord: It's sad and quite ironic that "the truth" these philosophers blindly searched for all of their natural life, except for Socretes though I'm sure there was some type of a Kutab at his time, they could of found it in the Quran . You would of have noticed I never, if you had clearly read the above quoted statement, made the claim that Socrates followed some sort of revealed knowledge which leads me to question how you come up with the premises and conclusion I was trying to prove to be true in my "argument"? Furthermore, since you "very much doubt that there was any reliable scripture of revelation at the time of Socrates", provide proof. Are you saying that people should assume the Quran to be true? Why should I assume the Quran to be true? I can just as equally assume the Bible to be true? But, I am not in the buiseness of making assumptions. You can "equally assume" what you like, it's really none of my concern. Besides in that whole sentence you're "assuming" that, that is what I'm arguing for when it isn't so I guess you're "in the business of making assumptions." War balaayo anagaa araknay. Socrates was not only prosecuted for "impiety" but also because of his political belief which oppossed the Democratic regime at time, basically an act of treason. Though he had an oppurtunity to escape and avoid drinking the hemlock, Socrates thought it was immoral for him to do so. Aristotle, on the other hand, was accused of the same charge that lead to the conviction and execution of Socrates. However, Aristolte fled Athens and declared that he would not let the Athenians " sin twice against philosophy". So then Aristotle was a "immoral" fulay. Oh and BTW, it's not Fadeism but Fideism, meaning reliance on faith alone rather than scientific reasoning or philosophy in questions of religion. You should read before you reap. One has to question, once one's his life, one's most cherished beliefs and axioms; one must subponea as Descartes wrote in The Principles , all beliefs before the judgement seat of reason.o Philosophy whether you disagree with me or not is a form of a belief for it is a mental act, condition, or habit of placing trust or confidence in another, in my case the "other" being Allah and his Kutab's whilst for a philosopher it's reason so how can they judge, and when they do judge discredit and dismiss, or try to justify my Belief by using their belief, reason? Pray tell also, what makes their form of belief truer than mine?

I think we were looking this through different angles and it seems neither of us has gotten each other’s points. At the moment your piece makes more sense to me now than apparently it did before. He wants me to Love him Like I would love him as he would love I were he Me He wants her to love him like she loves herself mayhap even more, that is to say, he is asking her to love him without any selfishness and conditions and no person can be held accountable for such a giving more than myself She is acknowledging that if she offers, “such a givingâ€, accountability (on her part), because she would be acting on her own free will and without compulsion, is not absolved. Basically, she can’t regret it nor make any excuses/blame anybody else for giving him that love except herself Lest he broke my heart Upon realizing that, she fear such a love for if she decides to love him without conditions and selfishness and he dies (breaks her heart), the reason for her state of indecsion and fear, she knows it would kill/destroy her. Even then, I won't regret I refuse to regret for love was given freely by no other person than I Who loved freely. In here, she decides to live in the now and let the future take care of itself. She faces her fear so to speak and reasons that even if death happens, she won’t regret the fact that she decided to love him unselfishly and unconditionally for it is she that gave it freely and what is given freely shouldn’t be, under any circumstances, regretted.

Lol, alla yaa isku camiray I don't think it was so funny that it merited so many O's for one would of been sufficient enough.

Originally posted by Instinct-Poet: How can he love her? when she wants him to love her the way she would love her if she was him???? If she wants him love her as if he was loving himself Whilst he wants her to love him as if she was loving herself Then They would love as if they were each other as if they were one being as if one couldn't exist with out the other leaving no room for regret for how can one regret loving themself?

@ our beloved Microsoft Word Thank You all for your kind words and in wishing me the best and I, MsMansha'allah wish you the same.

I gotcha The CPA and the MD, dang that would make a good reality show huh? Anyway, I'll call you later dee, freaking finals are being a pain in the **** . Sometimes I find myself making love to my own misfortune. --Norma O. Abrego Take care

Lol, I guess you figured it out huh. Happy 19th birthday to me, 2 more years and I'm legal insha'allah.

Loooooool Cawo and Phanta, just wait until you guys fall in love and believe me you, you'll be singing a different tune then, I know I did. For one human being to love another: that is perhaps the most difficult of our tasks; the ultimate, the last test and proof, the work for which all other work is but preparation. --Rainer Maria Rilke

Originally posted by AYOUB_SHEIKH: quote:Originally posted by Suldaaanka: Muse Suudi in action old school. Looooool, He didn't just go old school, he enrolled the Man in a class. acuudi Bilaahi.What can I say, I guess that is something you learn to pick up in the streets of Medina.

A good man follows his own heart A good man knows his own mind A good man is humble and not blind to his faults A good man teaches others as he learns them A good man is light after a lifetime of darkness A good man emulates the Prophet (S.C.W) A good man steers you right if you're wrong A good man respects his parents and yours A good man is kind as he is intelligent A good man steals the stars to brighten your day A good man sets an example A good man has a pure heart A good man isn't crude nor hurtfull for he rather cut his own finger than cause pain A good man treats his woman like a diamond amongst pearls A good man is understanding A good man is caring A good man isn't scared to Love A good man doesn't fear none other than his creator A good man is my Grandfather Who he thought me how to pray and fear Allah A good man is my Father for he set the example in which I judge all Men A good man is my brother who wipes my tears gently whenever I cry who does his best to make me smile A good man is my Heart for he thought me how to Love and gave me the greatest gift, A love returned A good man is perfect imperfection A good man is the best of companions A good man is beside every good woman We, women, are them and in turn they are Us we can't exist without each other.

^^^Dr.Evil and Mini Me, isku camirka nagadaaya. American corpses or not, they are lives that Allah created and therefore should be respected as such. In my opinion, America has ulterior motives which might involve having a military base in Somalia in order to keep an eye on the Middle East once a stable Government is established in Somalia with their brand of "help" only,of course. They're doing it for purely selfish reasons and not out of strong belief of what they strongly insist the greater good for the Somali people ought to be.

They say Chicken soup is good for a Poets soul So Should I try campbell's? or maybe the antidote they missed is an anecdote not written for I feel down like I fell on the ground No one to pick me up for none are strong enough They all walk by and think I'm all right yet I'm not right even my right hand makes mistakes and My mind is under suspicion for how can it take me there there to live for 19 years tomorrow, this place of questioned existance where I feel down like I fell on the ground Where archaic smiles grace my lips while Mother earth cries as I trek its womb with my unlaced timb boots and I don't care for I'm feeling down like I fell on the ground No one to pick me up for none are strong enough Or am I just too stubborn to get up? Maybe I just fear old age