^^I agree, fear of allah has to come from within not one that is forced by authorities.There ought to be a much healthier way of discussing sex in the islamic nations and homes too.. Maybe kids should be married off as soon as they reach puberty..that will tame their desires..but what about those grown up men, more wives perharps?

^^Easy Easy now, am sure he is better then some African thugs.. This kinda sums him up for me: "Man of faith and tradition, Muammar Al Qadhafi cannot be classified according to the criteria commonly admitted. If you search for him on the right you will find him on the left, since he preaches in many ways a renovation with the air of revolution. But if you look for him on the left you risk finding him on the right, because this sincere mystic is tied to more than one traditional value. It is not Qadhafi who is senseless; it is the terms, obsolete, and upon which are based the subjective judgements of foreign observers who are more interested in polemic than in the truth." - Prof. Francis Dessart. [Looking on Qadhafi with tinted glasses ] :cool:

I just loved watching this clip..hope you all enjoy it too!

It’s such a shame that bullying can be tolerated, especially when it’s so openly done. I might be still categorised as a newbie and not a member of the old gang, but from my observation of remarks and comments by “some” people can be read as bullying toward one or two members whom are active contributors. Bullying can come in many different forms, in the last two weeks, few members have taken upon themselves to name and shame these two characters for their overly contributions in the forum, most was done in a “friendly manner” but still the dagger was thrown. My assumptions were that these were and are public forums, and anyone can post whatever is considered acceptable by the administration. So why are some, being picked on for contributing, if one doesn’t like what one write ,one has the choice not to read. Let’s look at the definition of bullying: Bullying is persistent unwelcome behaviour, mostly using unwarranted or invalid criticism, nit-picking, fault-finding, also exclusion, isolation, being singled out and treated differently, being shouted at, humiliated, excessive monitoring, having verbal and written warnings imposed, and much more. Let’s be fair and just to each other, what it takes to be nice…nothing but just pure goodness! That’s my rant for the day and month… [shid!! just messed up my henna] .

Buuxo,hope this eloquently writen article help! Revisiting Somali Culture and Tradition with Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali Garaad Jaamac Jan 10, 2007 By:Faisal Abdi Roble Nothing could be further from the truth, except possibly for the odd aberrant behavior that will be found in any form of governance. African democracy is a form of direct democracy that allows the people to be involved in all major decisions affecting their communities. Decisions are made by consensus with the chief or traditional leader acting as a facilitator and traditionally not allowed to influence the decisions of the community. Representative democracy allows no such involvement. Elected leaders can do very much as they please as long as they abide by certain rules. They can even defy the majority of the electorate if they have no concern for re-election or believe they can sway opinion in their favor by the time of the next election. Traditional authorities can never behave in such a manner. They are always accountable and always available to their people. African democracy is consequently superior to representative democracy at the local level and therefore more suitable for the governance of traditional communities. Completing the destruction of South Africa’s traditional communities?" Temba Nolutshungu, Director of the Free Market Foundation, South Africa. On January 3, 2006, after driving over one hour and half on the notoriously congested I-5 freeway, I showed up at a room full of gleeful faces of more than hundred and fifty Somali immigrants, residents of Southern California, who gathered at the Golden Center (where services are provided to Somali Senior Citizens in San Diego). Still jubilant with post Ciidal Adxa festivities, the visit of the Grand Garaad of Sool and Sanaag and Cayn communities were the icing on the cake for this crowd. The crowd who gathered here represented all of Somalia’s otherwise disparate clans. And, not only were they united in their spirit to observe their organic Somali culture, but also in their appreciation and observance of the virtues of their traditional authority as represented by his highness Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali Garaad Jaamac. Prior to the Garaad’s sagacious and historic speech - historic for the ever-bourgeoning Diaspora community - as many as 7 speakers representing different sectors of the Somali community of this expansive region of Southern California, came to the podium and uttered traditional greetings and affirmed their appreciation of the presence of such a nobility amongst what is otherwise a toiling, 12 to 14 hours-day working, decent and crime free community. Anyone who was present at the site and observed the hearty cheerful welcome that was bestowed on this noble authority, descendent of a long line of more than ten Garaads of his lineage, as one women said in her touchy poem (Buraanbur in Somali), would not be lost on the truth that Somalis too differ to traditional authority more than to warlords or other artificially imposed structures. After soothing poetry and briefs presented by what sounded like delegates from their own respective constituents, at 7:00 P.M. sharp, the Grand Garaad, Garaad Jama Garaad Cali of the *********** clan, a man in his early thirties with elongated face wearing a carefully trimmed beard, hence giving his cheeks well-defined boundaries and a Somali-revered look, a full-bearded tall man (Gadh Madoobe), almost towering over most of his guests of honor, stood out of the gold glazed chair that he was assigned to sit on and reached out to the microphone. He did not waste any time to share with his crowd his words of wisdom that one obediently expects from nobility: Our homeland is bleeding and mothers and sisters and children are dying from lack of the simplest medication that even pets in the West get so easily. We do not have schools or any form of learning centers, spare any other form of infrastructure. What we need from the Diaspora community is neither politics nor divisive activities, but help in rebuilding our peace and social infrastructures that have been devastated as a result of a long and unnecessary civil war. With that, the Garaad quickly underscored his full understanding of his position in the community to which he added: “with authority comes responsibility.” He added that from the day he was coroneted this past May, 2006 in the simmering summer heat of Leas Caanod on wards, his shoulders had felt heavier. But recognizing the reciprocal offering of fealty to him, he informed his faithful audience his undivided commitment to unify his people whether it is his immediate community or the larger disparate Somali society. Fully aware of the benefits accorded to his people in this mosaic and cosmopolitan cultural milieu that became the new home we all so voluntarily adopted, the Garaad strongly advised his audience to be full and effective partners of their respective communities in which they live. ‘Be productive citizens of your communities but at the same time nurture, not murder, your culture,” he sternly advised. By gleefully listening to this nobility, something clicked inside me that reminded me of the way my own late father, Abdi Roble, otherwise a very strong man, remained loyal, voluntarily loyal, to my own Geri clan’s Garaad, Garaad Cisman Garaad Cali Garaad Koshin, who too descended from the Garaad Adan described by Richard Burton in “First Footsteps in East Africa." I silently appreciated this mutual trust-based system of indigenous governance in Africa as much as the leading Africanist, Jeremy Swift did. It is incidentally a system that predates all failed post-colonial system. Another revelation to me was how those who are not even from the Garaad’s immediate constituency paid homage and respect to his nobility. Members of diverse clans, who may otherwise thrive on their differences, emphasized here their communalities and assured the Garaad to “stay united Somalis, one nation under one religion.” Touching a soft spot of the audience, he challenged the larger community to “sort out its priority;” and said that “each and every one of you must first and foremost mind your own business and take care of the family for whom you are responsible.” He could not have said this better than by reminding the audience a folk story, where a negligent husband suddenly and hastily rolled up his sleeves only to be questioned by his despondent sister-in-law: “where do you think you are rushing to?” “I am going to partake in a clan war that my in laws are engaged in” responded the unsuspecting husband. “hah! You must first fulfill your husbandly responsibility that you have so long neglected,” she dismissively told him. With humility, especially from the men, the house came to a self-redeeming laughter. Doubly impressive about Garaad Jamac is his vision of leadership for the Somali community irrespective of clan limitation, and his well-though out Plan of Action pertaining to the Somali traditional leadership. Consisting of four interrelated points, the Garad proposes the following: 1. Invite all Somali traditional leaders (mainly Garaads, Isims, Ugaases, Malaaqs, Sultan) representing major Somali clans to his official residence in Laas Caanod. 2. Engage them to have systemic structure in which they can deliberate about traditional methodologies to building sustainable peace and harmony in the Somali society. 3. Bridge and mend broken bridges of communications among traditional leaders. 4. Enhance connectivity and networking among this group of the society, Professor Said Samatar of Rutgers University, whom I spoke about this vision, and who has extensively studied the role of traditional leaders in conflict resolution, called the Garaad’s proposed Plan of Action “a visionary concept that, if expanded, may contain the seeds of a blue-print for the establishment of civil society.” As a matter of fact it is. The Garaad’s proposal resonates with the professor’s earlier treatise on the subject (Samatar, Said, Oral Poetry and Somali Nationalism, 1982). The Garaad shared with his audience his dream to have a system and data base where anyone member of the traditional leaders in any part of the Somali peninsula can reach one another at the earliest breakout of a clan conflict or other disasters that may necessitate an action from this class of leaders. Given today’s transformation of the world into a global village, the Garaad’s plan is timely. I can only vouch with appreciation for this visionary and farsighted traditional leader who blessed our great Golden Gate’s community with his timely visit. With his continent-wide tour coming to a closure in Atlanta this weekend (January 7, 2006), the Garad had appropriately earned the name of a “unifying Garad.” May Allah bless him for he has shown us that Somali culture and tradition is more resilient than often acknowledged. We are in one of those times that we need to revisit our culture and tradition to help us center our souls and society. Faisal Abdi Roble WardheerNews E-Mail:Fabroble@aol.com

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: quote: He is the Garaad of ALL THE SOMALIS looooooooool ^^^And that is funny,how?? Have some respect ninyow! With folks like you no wonder there is no end to the hate!

There are times one can almost cry for our "men",its too painful to observe the stupity.. :mad:

^Both my dear serenity!

Lol... North, dont let me make you feel bad now, your indeed an exceptional. :cool: Zu: I have planned and deplaned to the point, I no longer have the energy, but all is good. Lily: Excitement isn’t a feeling I feel at the moment, am exhausted! But, am sure a good break from work will rejuvenate me again, and then the excitement can kick in!

Originally posted by Northerner: Standing over the unsi is dangerous anyway. My khamiis bares proof ^^Interesting ,didnt know men did that!or are you an exeptional yaa North

Lily,pop in any Indian Shop clothe/shoe shops you would find, alot of glittery sandals for a finished dircaa outfit..

^^Lol, CC its good to be blissfully young and naive dear,goodluck!

^^Lol,he is just expressing his disappointment in the Somali race! I am sure there are alot of national treasures around Somalia,waiting to be discovered.. Oh the ancient mosque ruin in Zaylac,Its believed to be one of the oldest mosques in Africa.

^^Now that is just unfair to the potential stalkers..

^Lol, GoodMorning fellow slackers!, my last day at work!

I loved that,Hamish has such a passion for Somali History and culture,I had a pleasure of meeting him once,and he spoke fluent Somali...put some of us to shame!

Ouch! Naxar,have mercy!

Ms DD,What is their excuse? Your not British enough to carry the red book?..Lol that happened to me in one of my visit to Africa...Kulaha, are you sure your British..duh!,couldnt distinguish my cockney accent from his african accent..Lol!

^^Xan,welcome to my world,been a foreigner in many lands all my life,and even more so among my so called people...descriminated on ground's of one was born and bred outside somalia!

Why do I always feel uncomfortable with police,tail gating behind..Hmm were did this phobia come from! :confused:

Xan,surely Women have the right to one of the pillars of Islam without being subjected to restrictions.Its the men that have an issue,then they should stand aside and let the women perform their duty first.., or offer the women pepper sprays at the door,let see if any little wandering hand will try anything... Is it sunna or faraadh to touch the Ka'aba?

^^The gay mans return to normalhood in the general section?...

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: I'm not Sure that reer anatony live in Hargeisa ,,,, Ok..Lol

^He probably would'nt have noticed..hence Somali is his second or third language

^^Is reer Antony in Hargeysa?..I know the old man left Tanzania in the early 80's, I used to play with his kids.