SOS, do you want to tell me that Allah sanctioned somali tribalism? That is what many wadaados claim. For starters somali tribalism is a social construction; the abtiris´we use is flawed; ´defying the basic tenents of islam; it is lies coocked and fed to the people;: the wadaado's nourish this pathetic system by reciting the holy quran and give it some islamic touch; and before you know it, every bugger who calls himself wadaad sells this nonsence of tribalism and in the process justifies murders, rapes etc! The apologists of tribalism actually claim as you eluded to that tribalism parse is not a bad thing ; but it is the usage - qabyaalad! what a nonsense! Wadaad-waranle xaad ku macneey lahayd? shed some light please! Ngonge, with all due respect, you display the characteristic of a compulsive contributor What do you mean by a valid argument? who validates it? Yeah, I might have made a mistake generalising (and I corrected that in the reply to Ashkiro), but the issue remains that the somali wadaados are very much responsible for the potency of tribalism- which in the extension is why our society has become the laughing stock of the globe. The wadaados are respected by Somalis; but many of them give approval to the heinous crimes committed against somalis; every warlord, every child murderer in somalia prays behind a wadaad; every warlord seeks blessing in a wadaad; every power hungry thug respects the wadaad. Indeed wadaados make a mistake; but this is more than a mistake; this is called mispresentintg the Quran which many of us hold dear; They lie delibrately to get a few bucks, a meal or earn respect. ' This collective lies is wrong. Go and talk your local wadaad; Ask him if Allah meant somali "tribes" or Somalis. Tell him that the ab´tiris does not add up; My guess is that he is going to tell you; Allah sanctioned it! P.s SOS; Soomaalidu waxay ku maahmaahdaa: Faqiih tolkii kama Janno tago." This is exactly the problem? waa tolke? My faqhi claims that he is my tol, but a critical scrutiny reveals that he is not!

Asc, Ngonge, as usual you drop a one liner without elobrating Ama amuus ama dooda wax ku biiri dooda maandhow, Nuur, mahadsanid: Ashkiro, You are right, the topic's name generalises, I admit. The bottom line is we need mechanisms to differentiate the faqi buraales and the real culuma. As long as there are some wadaados who gave tribalism a religious touch we are doomed to continue on the destructive path our.

Abu, Zeminkii hore oo adduunku fiicanaa ragga laba nooc ayaa loo kala qeybin jiray; Wadaad; waa dadka ku xeel dhaarado barashada diinta; waxaay ka bilaabi jireen inaay xir noqdaan, kadib macalin dugsi, dabadeedna sheikh xir madax u ah; hadduu lacag leeyahayna xaaji Inta ka baxsan waa waranle (ruux salaadiisa iska dukado, quraankana iska aqristo)

Abwaan, kuli ma wada xumee laakin waxaan ka caroodaa markuu wadaad waliba difaaco qabyaalada soomaaliya; Doraad waxaan is aragnay nin wadaad isku tilmaamayo oo loogu sheekeyey inaan reer garas isla wadanahay; markaasu ila soo galay sheeko baaraleey; Waxaan ku iri sheekhow, bal u kaadi ma la hubaa inaan isla qolo nahay? Markaasu aayad ii soo dareeriyey oo uu i yiri qabiilka ilaah baa sheegay; waxaan ku iri adeer qabiilka ilaaheey sheegay ma aha reer garase ee waa soomaali, maadaama reer garas dadka wada sheegto aaysan ku abtirsanin.

Come on guys!!!!!! According to many people, Kismayo is relatively peaceful (save the PR blunders of those in charge; demolishing of graves, the killing of a warlord, "stoning" "banning qaad"; ). Why should the people of Kismayo welcome a parliament that has subjected them to 17 years of death and destruction? Why should they welcome a 4,5 system when they have their own system that has ensured the return of peace?

Asc, I have listened to many so called somali sheikhs (culumo). Anyone can be called a sheikh simply because he knows a few arabic words, can recite an ayah or does not carry a waran. These people command respect; people turn to them for guidance; for starting a war, for celebrating births and deaths; for supporting a presidency, for extending blessing; for roob doon; for virtually everything. The problem I have with this sheikh is how many of them view somali tribalism; It is not uncommon for a somali sheikh (Boqol soon was an exception) to claim that since Allah states that we are divided into nations and clans, the somali clan system has the backing of Allah. This justification and lies about our almighty has led to a discourse among the wadaads and waranles; Ilaaheey baa qabiilka sheegay; anagu hadaan nahay reer qurac, reer qansac waan inaan dhulkeena iyo dadkeena ka talinaa. While in Nairobi for instance, I had the opportunity to watch a broadcast by a famous sheikh in Muqdisho who was supporting Ali Maxamed geedi; he was very selective in his choice of Xadith and Quran; It became apparent that he was Sheikh Zab; calooshiisa u shaqeeyste. The next night there was another sheikh who asserted that he does not support Ali Mohamed and cited selective hadiths and ayaas. On discussing this issue with wadaads and waranles I have been accused of refusing to accept Allah's words. In fact, it is viewed as blasphemy if you question the somali discourse on this issue. In kastoo aan waranle ahay haddana xoogaa diinta waan aqaanaa; Qabiilku ilaahey noo sheegay waxaa la yiraahdaa SOMALI; reer qurac iyo reer qansac waa jeebkeena. In fact, if you analyse the somali clan system you will come to the conclusion that it is like the Saint Clause of christianity; a dude with white beard appears and gives presents to kids. We need Sheikhs like the late Boqolsoon who is brave enough to say war heedhe qabiilku ilaahey sheegay ma aha reer qurac ama reer qansac ee waa reer soomali. Reer qurac iyo reer qansac waa wax sal iyo baar lahayn; cilmina kuma dhisno; waa been soomalida aay sameeystay; waa St Clauska gaalada!

Asmara group is irrelevant; So is the Djibouti process. What matters in terms of power leverage is what is happening in Somalia.

Ku soo dhowow ururka "far baa noo taagan". Rajada ilaaheey lama dhigo laakin Sheikh Shariif "selection" by warlords, thugs, tribal entrepreneurs and a few good men/women is a bad carbon copy of the selection of Abdiqasim and Abdullahi Yusuf.

Libaax, I get your point; but selecting an MP and a cabinet will not quinch our thirst for peace- and peace can only come when we abandon the "titles" and seek justice. My point is that his challenges exceed the notion of extending a hug to Meles; he should go south and cry (and console) at the feet of every somali victim; and make it clear that there will be no warlord, tribalist in parliament or government.

The Zack, LOL. I was the first mucaarad when the Arta process started; when the Doofaareey process was initiated; and I am honoured to be the first mucaarad to the Djibouti farce. The reason; waxaani waa sheeko caruureed; dadka waxaaysan fahmin in dhibaatada somalia aan lagu xalin karin jago; madaxweyne, xildhibaan, dawlad. Soomaaliya ma haaysato dawlad la'an, madaxweyne la'aan ee waxaa haaysata cadaalad la'aan iyo xukun jecel. The Zack ku soo dhowow the new somali movement for grassroot strategies to bring peace, and against madaxweynism, dawladism iyo xildhibaanism

Libaax, As president you have to be diplomatic and extend a hand (or even a hug) to your enemies. What is the difference between meeting Meles and calling the warlords he fought in Xamar "walaalahey"?

Kitaabka "qabyaalada" ayaay ku dhaartaan. To these killers using islam is a means; Sheikh Sharif started by reciting some dua in arabic only to thank the warlord, murderers and child killers.

General Duke, Sheikh Sharif intuu ka taliyaa? North of Muqdisho only right? That will make him a lame duck; don't you think?

Qalbi, what is new- his age aside? Nothing the same old killers selected him remember.

Somalia's Obama? That is an insult.

Ngoge, please cease with your cheap shots at newcomers on SOL. If you have nothing to write, don't write it. As a compuslive forumer, you are everywhere with nacnac sxb As to the topic; Sheikh Shariif was before the coming of Amxaaros and their lackeys (warlords led by Abdillahi Yusuf)a man respected by somalis of all kinds. He has since then become a character that loves travelling, living in hotels while the kids he lead were fighting the occupation. When finally, the day came, many expected that Sheikh Sharif will fight for the dissolution of the 4,5 based warlord parliament. Instead he appears to be spearheading a bad episode version of the TFG II. It is apparent that he is another somalia, who has been seduced by Madaxweyne mar i dhaha. If he becomes the president he will be the leader of 540+ qabilistes, warlords and dogs of war. Because of this he is likely to face an opposition and life for the ordinary man in Muqdisho and the rest of the country will remain the same; starvation, wars, and all the ailments of somalia.

This is the most disappointing piece I ever read on SOL. To read Galaydh, jees and Morgan on the same document. Cali Khalif Galaydh, the academic- my choice as a leader who transcends the temptations of tribalism- has a signed a tribal document!!!!! If this is true, our failure will continue; and the only hope for somalia is a partition based on tribal lines. Dr. Galaydh Go qabiliste, go!

Xiin, while every effort to bring a lasting peace is welcome- and the so called Puntland attendance is a step in the right direction (not that it matters), we should not neglect the reality on the ground; the southern part of Somalia is in the hands of groups who are not part of the Djibouti process. Sheikh Shariif power base is confined to the northern outskirts of Xamar. The rest of the country is in the hands of groups opposed to the process. In addition, what is worrying is that the Djibouti process appears to be no different than the Dppfareey one (the selection of MPs is based on the cancer of tribalism 4,5), the former warlords, religious entrepreneurs, new warlords in the making etc are the ones attending. My prediction is that we are back to square one. As to Puntland attending or not attending it does not change anything. To use the words of our inhouse Goebells they are "irrelevant". Laakin rajada allah lama dhigo...

Joesph Alois Schumpeter wrote a century ago (in response to Marx's lament that capitalism will succumb to an inevitable death) that the strength of capitalism lies in its ability to creative destruction; renewal. People are celebrating the death of capitalism prematurely. There is a problem though in the events unfolding; there are no losers, the bailout means that if everyone is rescued.

Al-shabaab took over Baydhabo following the looting and lawlessness that came following the departure of the TFG stooges. The last few days has been marked by murders and looting of properties.

So the whole thing was Cambaraa tiri? Did they find WMD too? Jaceylbaro, maybe it is time for you to double check your sources before you copy and paste. This kind of lies take a lot of space.

Ilaahey ha u naxriisto marxuumka. I have been to Malaysia and the people are fabolous! I have met many somalis who study (I might have even met the vixtim), work and do business in Malaysia. This sort of incident happens everywhere.

waiting, waiting..... waiting. Have you watched "wag the dog"?

mmm, a step in the right direction; from copy and paste to one sentence! What enemy are you talking about? "compulsive" poster miyaa xaalku? oo faraha kama dhigi karto "keyboardka! miyaa?

I wonder why you copy and paste what others have written. I want to read where you stand! Ka fikir maandhow 21300 + posts of what others have written