Originally posted by Geel_jire: ^ where it comes into it is that, sh. sharif is so used to traveling in an armored personell carrier that he forgot he was not back home in Mogadishu and boarded the armoured personell carrier instead of the diplomatic limousine. I myself don't find it funny, but an accurate representation of the current political climate. I get that part. When he is in mog,yes. But,not when he is a dignatary of a respected state. during presidential state ceremonies,no humvees are present. So,the setting is off. Funny,i will say half funny. relevent satirical cartoon;,not really. this is useless anyway in my opinion.

Originally posted by AYOUB: ^^ One does not have to find it funny. North said the cartoon did not carry "any messege" and was "meaningless". Not true. At home, Sh. Sharif and his guests are not allowed the luxurious reception he received in Turkey. That's why he was in Turkey after all, is it not? Subject to interpretation. But,where does the humvee come in a state ceremony!?

^And North says,it aint funny. What you find humourous,may not be for someone else. Personally, I dont see the co relation. Especially this one in Turkey,as it is that, you dont see humvees in state ceremonies.

Why would Turkey have a tank and a red carpet together? the setting,is off. Otherwise,its half funny

Oh Shiz,They captured some more... -------------------- -------------------- ---------- MOMBASA, Kenya - Somali pirates were back to business as usual Tuesday, defiantly seizing four more ships with 60 hostages after U.S. sharpshooters rescued an American freighter captain. "No one can deter us," one bandit boasted. The freed skipper, Richard Phillips, will return home to the United States on Wednesday, after reuniting with his 19-man crew in the Kenyan port of Mombasa, according to the shipping company Maersk Line Ltd. The brigands grabbed more ships and hostages to show they would not be intimidated by President Barack Obama's pledge to confront the high-seas bandits, according to a pirate based in the Somali coastal town of Harardhere. "Our latest hijackings are meant to show that no one can deter us from protecting our waters from the enemy because we believe in dying for our land," Omar Dahir Idle told The Associated Press by telephone. "Our guns do not fire water. I am sure we will avenge." On Monday, Obama vowed to "halt the rise of piracy" without saying exactly how the U.S. and allies would do it. The pirates have vowed vengeance for five colleagues slain by U.S. and French forces in two hostage rescues since Friday. "The recent American operation, French navy attack on our colleagues or any other operation mean nothing to us," said Idle, 26, whose gang holds a German freighter with 24 hostages. The pirates say they are fighting illegal fishing and dumping of toxic waste in Somali waters but have come to operate hundreds of miles from there in a sprawling 1.1 million square-mile danger zone. The top U.S. military officer, Adm. Michael Mullen, said he takes the pirates' threats seriously, but "we're very well prepared to deal with anything like that." Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, spoke on ABC's "Good Morning America."

^WHOA!, These guys are not joking..They need to start getting their ransoms before these governments come to the shores of haradher and eyl and hobyo. Btw, check this story out. Even the Dolphins are against the pirates. Bal eeg amuurtan. http://news.x inhuanet.com/english /2009-04/14/xin_5920 406141120000159014.j pg Rest of story. Dolphins block somali pirates

I thought,THIS was an M.O.U and not a legal un chartered document? Hello!

OK,let the article do the talking: The most active groups include: _Eyl, from the I*sse Mahmud and L*eelkasse subclans of the D*arood clan. _Garad, from the O*mar M*ahmuud subclan of the D*arood clan. _Hobyo, from the Habar*gedir sub clan of the H*awiye clan. _Hardheere, from the Habar*gedir subclan of the H*awiye clan. _Mogadishu, from the Habar*gedir subclan of the H*awiye clan. Rest of Article -------------------- -------------------- -------- Congressional report: 5 groups conduct most piracy 10 Apr 10, 2009 - 9:42:50 AM WASHINGTON (AP) — Five well-organized pirate groups conduct most of the pirate attacks off the coast of Somalia, but they hire local fisherman to ferry them out to their quarry to avoid detection, according to a memo prepared by the staff of the House Armed Services Committee in early March. It is very much a business. According to the memo, one captured pirate explained how the ransom — on average $1 million to $2 million per boat — is divided among participants. Twenty percent goes to the bosses of the group, 20 percent is capital investment, to include guns, ammunition, fuel, food, cigarettes and other provisions for future missions, 30 percent to the pirates, and 30 percent in bribes to government officials. In 2008, pirates operating off Somalia earned $30 million in ransom through the seizure of 42 vessels. The pirate groups draw their members from large provincial clans, which are extended family networks that divided themselves into smaller subclans, the memo reported Source:AP

Originally posted by General Duke: Farax adeer you have sufficient time to contribute to the thread so do so. As for me I left Somalia as a child in 1987 and have resided in the west ever since. In exile as I never had the choice to leave , and insha Allah will return in the coming years. I plan for it every day. Left Somalia in 80s mhmm and here you are preaching people about the "complexity" of the somali issue? Anyway,Duke,Like i have said,you do have valid points and i agree with you that,Somalis need to rethink and hit the reset button. Mine was to remind you that most ppl did indeed realize that. Lets move beyond it. You got defensive,i was accusotarial. My suggestion: I would like for you to first of all to start rethinking your position. Look deep into your pysche and see beyond your lovely enclave that is Puntland.

Originally posted by General Duke: Farah-Brown: Adeer you must not know what unity means as for “divisive” of course supporting Puntland to a Kenyan Somali with neo-clan issues is a problem. Thus its your hate for Puntland that gives you narrow and selective reading of the Duke’s position. Again I am answerable to god but not to any man least of all one who has very weak understanding of the Somali complex issues. What we need is idea, so what is yours, twice you commented and twice you dressed up your paranoia. Of course you need time to think, so take your time. Duke,When was the last time you left Somalia?(I know you left somalia in the 80s,but tell the rest of the people). Look, Stope being defensive. I am giving you credit here. You are correct,Somalis need to rethink. And all i and most everyone in here said was: You are some 10yrs plus late.

As for the post its about rethinking the whole position and taking a holistic approach. My positions if you can go past your clan bias has always been about unity, self determination and improving the life of each and every Somali. Thus it has not changed and insha Allah will never I must have been on a different SOL than you. Because,as far as i can tell[and i have data to proof this),you have never been for unity. You are the most divisive personality in SOL. Like i have said,it is a positive thing that you are actually advocating for rethinking. And i,i will support you on that.

Hello Duke. Did you just wake up out of a coma? Somalia has been a failure for the last 25 years. They say though,better be late than never and i would like for you to first of all to start "rethinking" your position. If it starts with you,i am sure many will follow. Great idea though

Who knows what is next? The FBI raided the malls today. From, 8am to 3pm. -------------------- -------------------- ------- Federal agents searched three money-transfer businesses in Minneapolis on Wednesday, carrying away boxes of documents and copying computer hard drives in a quest for details of financial transactions between the U.S. and several African nations. Agents searched Mustaqbal Express, also known as North American Money Transfer Inc.; Quran Express; and Aaran Financial. FBI spokesman E.K. Wilson confirmed the searches but wouldn't elaborate on the reason. A copy of a search warrant executed at Mustaqbal Express and obtained by The Associated Press said authorities were looking for documents, books, records, ledgers and other materials "relating to the transfer of money, currency or funds" to Somalia, Eritrea, Kenya, Sudan, Ethiopia, Djibouti and the United Arab Emirates from January 2007 to the present. It also sought documents on ownership and management of the business and lists of clients, calendars, bank checks, safe deposit box keys, and other materials. Agents seized receipts, business records, bank statements and other documents from Mustaqbal Express, the warrant said. The warrant was filed under seal in the federal Eastern District of Missouri on April 3. Abdirahman Omar, the general manager of Mustaqbal Express, said about 15 agents spent more than four hours at his business. He said they took about 10 boxes of documents and copied computer hard drives. Mustaqbal Express' Minneapolis office serves as a central collection point for money from other locations around the country, including Seattle, St. Louis and Denver and Columbus, Ohio, Omar said. The company's Web site says it also has offices in Arizona, Montana, Tennessee and Georgia. Omar said the office handles about $1 million to $1.5 million per month, and ships the money overseas — mostly to Somalia. Local immigrants also use the Minneapolis office to send money back home. He said the service is especially important because it is one of the few ways Somalis can send money back home. The country has no banks or traditional means of transferring money from one person to another, Omar said. Mustaqbal's Web site says its customers are mostly immigrants or refugees, lower-income families, and other diaspora communities. Somalia has not had an effective government since 1991, when warlords overthrew a socialist dictator and then turned on each other, causing anarchy in the African nation of 7 million. Since January, a new government has been trying to broker peace with warring groups and gain legitimacy. Omar said the FBI agents were polite, and just doing their jobs. Still, he was angered and said the raid gave his business a bad image. "We're not doing anything wrong," he said. "We cooperated. We are 100 percent confident there's nothing wrong." He said agents came in unannounced and began questioning employees individually, asking questions about what the workers do, how they send money back to Africa, who they send money too, and what kind of payments are being transferred. "I don't know what data they were looking for," Omar said. Mustaqbal Express has about 10 employees, Omar said, but only about five were there at the time of the raid. No one was arrested there, Omar said. Mustaqbal Express is one of many businesses in Village Market, an indoor mall that caters to Minneapolis' immigrant community. Other businesses there sell clothing, electronics, provide Internet service, or sell food. Mustaqbal Express shut down during the raid, but was back in business by late Wednesday afternoon. The two other money-transfer businesses searched Wednesday are in a similar indoor mall, known as Karmel Mall, in another part of Minneapolis. Several people and shopowners declined to be quoted, but said a dozen or so federal agents were at the mall from about 8 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. Minnesota is home to a large concentration of African immigrants, particularly Somalis who have mostly settled in Minneapolis. The most recent Census figures estimate the state has about 32,300 Somalis, but local advocates say the number is much higher. Omar said one FBI agent told him the search was unrelated to the departures of several young Somali men who left Minneapolis in recent months and are believed to have returned to Somalia to join in the fighting there. Nearly a decade ago, after the Sept. 11 attacks, some money exchanges in Minnesota were caught up in a national crackdown on two organizations accused of laundering money for Osama bin Laden. Most eventually reopened. ——— Associated Press Writer Liz Riggs contributed to this report from Minneapolis.

Originally posted by Xidigo*: ^^ Maxaa tidhi inabti? Adam-Zaylac doesn't want these kinds of observations. He wants statistical analysis in a graph, showing exactly the # of Somali single moms out there. Can you provide that Yaa Che I dont think Zay is asking for that. His was,that one should not make general broad statements and declare them to be facts. And If you do so,bring proof. Yes that includes statistics and pie charts per every single home. The moral of the story is,This is not 1990,when the waxaa la yidhi wararka was rampant. These days,you need data and the sweet thing about it is,these are available anywhere.

Originally posted by Pucca: lets see....one of my names has no meaning and the other is the name of a city also no meaning. Im thinking that says something about me but im going deny that and say that a name is just a name and nothing more. I'd be the same person if i were simply a letter or number. So,does that mean,you do not mean anything to any one by any means? Was i mean for saying this?

Nephy,You need to capitalize the "Y" in the you...L0L

Prof. Hassan Mahadallah Southern University I had the fantastic opportunity to meet Prof Mahadallah. What a great brilliant Somali. AU,I wish i had the time to go to this forum,wish you all luck

^Nicely worded. I always have an issue with people use words freely and loosely. Lets work with figures,shall we?

Originally posted by Xidigo*: I have nothing to lose. I am already dhex yar. Qaliirey haye?

^:0L000L,Howchu do dat?

Originally posted by Cadaan: LOL thanks guys, I thought you'd like it The strike is at day 6 now and I have a sunburn on my face but other than that everything is alright, at least I'm outside and getting fresh air Are you sure about the fresh air? Isnt that a "fag" in your mouth? Last time i checked,0xgyn was fresh air,Not Carbon Monoxide Double Ds and the rest of the xamarawis,can you please respond to sharasad? Areebo xaa la dhahaa kuteh

^ Nice Pose. L0L,you are like. "I aint doing sh1t"

Originally posted by sheherazade: LOL folks! Get YOUR own pics! Ow,L0L. Sheh,ma areebo baa?

I hear you Sue. I was only responding to your headline. And the only way i knew that death valley was hot,is because,i have a friend who likes to go there for adventure. weired? Dhubad, oo Luuq ma sidaas beey aheed?