Originally posted by Lieutenant Xalane: Some of those who fought against Ethiopia in 1977,say that both the TFG and the ICU are out of line.The ICU refused peace and chose the gun over the negotiations and lacked diplomacy.The only blame they gave the TFG was inviting Ethiopia.They are pissed off by both parties. But coming back to issues,what choice was the TFG really given? I agree with the fact that the IUC maybe rushed to war,But dude they hand pick the govt of warlords,ask igadd to send troops and when all failed they invade another country? Is that even something uu nin somali ah uu ka fikiro? Dude,some of these things are common sense.Any man out their with Somalia @ the heart will NEVER EVER EVER LET ITS ENEMY FIGHT ITS WARS and LET HIS PEOPLE AND HIS COUNZTRY TO BE INVADED BY THE ENEMY. Simple as that. It comes down to that sxb. Some are traitors and others are patriotic. the group that never wanted front line troops into somalia knew this was bound to happen,The group that wanted front troops in somalia precisly wanted ETHIOPIA to fight for them. Whimps and nacasiin iga dheh.

Originally posted by Lieutenant Xalane: What pride and sovereignity?Those terms were gone with the former President,Major General Barre. Right,In came traitors & collobrating,warlords and warmongers ,Fuleys and fat cats leading to this unprecedented xabashi invasion to somali soils. Inshallah the will of the ppl will come true & these traitors will face the wrath and hopefully come to their senses.

I am hearing words like betryal & stubing the back and such words. You sacrificing the integrity,sovernighty and pride of your nation to get back @ your fellow countrymen? Laa ilaaha,Xiniyo la'an baanu ku ogeyn hadana caqli xumo ayeey ku darsadeen?

NewsHour One thing I cant understand is the legitimization of warlord elected govt to switch people driven govts. What would Siyad Bare do? What would the men who died and sacrificed their lives fighting Etoobia do today? What about the beautiful voices that sang patriotic songs when we were crashing Xabashada? What would the men who wrote those battle field songs do? What happened to the pride of being SOMALI,free of domination from any entity? Maanta we welcomed Xabashi boots into Somali soils? To patrol and maintain peace[Wow] in Somalia? :mad: May The traitors of the somali Nation be one day be punished for this UNFORGIVABLE act of treason they have commutted against EVERY SOMALI[Dead or Alive].

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Brown, the elders must have welcomed the Xabashi.. Exactly! Ragnimo iyo xiniyo lasoo tabal caarestay lee iga dheh. Where is the "Win" in that for Somalinimo iyo Muslinimo? In any case,They are traitors and they are answerable to the SOMALI nation. Men who have no principle,who have no sense of nationalism out to grab power and rule the innocent and to bring back the warlords kicked out yesterday. They couldnt do it themselves so they use the Enemy to kill & conquer their Brothers. Brilliant idea.

The title of this thread[Just like the other ones],Should read: Guriceel[somalia] falls to the Xabashi.

This Post should read:Ethiopia's long awaited chance to BOMB somalia. This is likke my old fuley buddy in primary school whereby we used to garbaduud his bullies and he would walk proudly to say he has beaten heblow Ufff

Yes, I agree so don't bother again. Xiniyo la'anta walle weey kaa muuqataa. Waraa,isjilci yaah

Originally posted by HornAfrique: quote:Originally posted by Brown: Simply speaking: Qabyaalid is the keyword So you are saying our Somaliland lads such as Castro, Suldaan, Ayoub, etc have come out enmasse because of qabyaalad and taking advantage of this ugly moment to find support against, what they believe, is a prime opportunity to continue their anti-x Clan, anti-TFG stance with the support and legitimacy of many? Well you know what? I agree with you! You want to use the qabil issue to support your immoral stance,Knock yourself off.That statement will forever haunt you & you know it quite well.The original statement stands: Xiniyo rageed laguma faano in abti yaah. Besides,I[& Most Solers] wont ever take you seriously anyway...Because its very predictable where your next side will be,All one has to do with your political stance is to watch which side Hiirale takes & VOILA off goes HornAfriq to switch sides.

Originally posted by HornAfrique: quote:Originally posted by Brown: quote: Originally posted by Castro: quote: Originally posted by Suldaanka: ^^ HOrn Xiniinyo aad leeday ayaa lagu faana. Xiniinyo xabashi, Xabashi ayaa ku faana. Supporting the secession of Somaliland has not stripped some of their Somalinimo nor did wrapping oneself in the blue and white flag bestow it on those who do. Aduunyooy xalkaa ba'. Gobanimo waa loo dhashaa Castro ina Adeer. Maxaa halka ku fadhiisyey marka, mise waxaad isleedahay Jihaadku waa lakala leeyahay? Maxaa isuaashasi keenay hadaba? Anu I just said Gobanimada waa loo dhashaa. I was merely responding to the original powerful statement uttered by Castro. It was a very piercing observation from Suldaan Castro,One that indeed can make a good man as you crinch and wonder why he is behaving in such. & Sir i merely just gave him a reason as to why he was wondering why a sessionist is defending SOMALINIMO while another pro-somaliweyn is endorsing,cheering and actually happy that the Xabashi have invaded his country. Simply speaking: Qabyaalid is the keyword & raga Gobta ah support Somalinimo and the daba dhilifs invite Xabasho to fight their wars.Comprehende flipflopper?

Originally posted by Castro: quote:Originally posted by Suldaanka: ^^ HOrn Xiniinyo aad leeday ayaa lagu faana. Xiniinyo xabashi, Xabashi ayaa ku faana. Supporting the secession of Somaliland has not stripped some of their Somalinimo nor did wrapping oneself in the blue and white flag bestow it on those who do. Aduunyooy xalkaa ba'. Gobanimo waa loo dhashaa Castro ina Adeer.

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^such anger and personal attacks. Lets stick to the issues,, the issue is that Xabashi Planes are Bombarding Somali cities killing Somali ppl and you have the audacity to say anything else?

May the Xabashi be toasted and killed in the streets of SOMALIA. Hada,where are the MEN who were saying that Ethiopia is not fighting? Ilaaahow

Originally posted by General Duke: Brown, emotional antics and presences are of course a necessity at a time of defeat. Thus a few days ago you was questioning the reliability of the news, not showing much concern for the deaths of fellow Muslims. After the defeat of the courts you turn all religious, that is of course a matter for you. On my side, I am highlighting was is happening on the ground, the clashes are between the national governemnt of Somalia and a group of clan court alliance led by InadCade, the people of Somalia are not going on a Jihad, they are living as ever, in a tough situation. Thank you for the advice, it is always welcome. All in All I have questioned the authenticity of the news you were pasting,questioning the lies you were pasting. I am now also questioning your lack of respect & remorse towards this whole issue.Your obvious happiness for the death and destruction of a fellow somali,is what I am question. I am not Pro IUC but I am anti Xabashi,I pointed out my reasons why. Defeat,waxaa loo isticmaala someone who is supporting one side of this war,I am not. Defeat,is not will describe my stance. Outraged and shocked is the word to describe my feeling since the xabashi invaded somalia, Not because of my love for the IUC. Its as simple as that. My advice to you is,walaal do not be happy for the death of fellow Muslim somalis. Its UN ISLAMIC. Xoogsade,Sxb Duke waa ni falan Amxaaro aka Somali Freind, Go choke on some raw meat.

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Saxib, you are getting irrational and thus you are losing the whole point of the matter. I have been here before and actually on many occasions, when people pretend to be more nationalistic and lately more religious while masking their own lack of argument in the matter at hand. 1. Who started this latest attacka nd was itching for this for a while? 2. Who is forcing children to go to the front line and parading our women with guns? Then answer who broke the laws if Islam, by lying daily and even pretending that this naked clan agenda is done for the sacred faith? That is their dambi and btween them and ALLAH. The leadership of the IUC will answer their side of dambi to ALLAH swt. I am pointing out YOUR side of the story,becoz i find it sad that you are happy and cheering for the DEATH of MUSLIM somali brothers. Advice unbaan kusiinaye anu. Dhimasho,Dagaal iyo dhaawac on a muslim brother wax lagu farxo lagu durbaan tunto ma'aha. Wasalam aleykum waraxmatualah. May Allah forgive us all.

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Saxib, to my knowledge they do not manufacture heavy mortars, anti air craft guns and AK-47's in Mogadishu or Kismayu. Also I nver knew Oromo, Eritreans and foreign fighters had a stake in Somalia and the people of lower Shabbele and unarmed clans did not? The TFG has bought, leased, borrowed wepons, from Ethiopia, Uganda, Yemen and other nations and has been putting together their troops for two years now, from Puntland, Jowhar, Gedo, Bay & Bakool and otehr areas. The troops are led by expereinced warriors from President Yusuf, General Qasim Naji, and lower ranking officers. Thus the courts are baffled, at the fighting, they have thus far been used to bullying and the advantage of their Oromo, Eritrean and foreign fighters means nothing.. May Allah Save US ALL Amiin. Ilaahey haa kaa dambi dhaafo,thats all I am gonna tell you. Wether the TFG is getting help ethiopia Uganda,Kenya or the Govt of Puntlnd,it doesnt change the fact that a MUSLIM SOMALI is celebrating & cheering for the death of Fellow Somali Muslims with little or no remorse AT ALL. That to me is the shocking part about all this. Its even sadder that you are actually pointing out Gaalo nations who are a part of killing somalis and the fact that you are even defending this is in itself SAD. May Allah forgive us all. Thats all am saying sxb.

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^If yo belive this is an invasion by the Ethiopia would take this long and would not have been bombings of cities of Hargaysa, Bossaso, Mogadishu, then you dot know what an invasion is. The clan courts are losing to the national army of Somalia. Hiding behind "Ethiopia" attacked us will not lessen the defeat. You are right. The Somali National Army has managed to Get Tanks and Artillery and Training from the 8000 Xabashi trainers in Baidoa with in 4Months. In Anycase,It is still sad that A SOMALI is happy,Celebrating and cheering the Defeat,death and distruction of ANOTHER SOMALI. Its really sad to see a Muslim celebrating the death of another Muslim with no remorse AT ALL. May Allah Save US ALL

I am just saddened that my fellow SOMALIS are happy and celebrating the invasion of Somalia by the tigre Xabasha of Ethiopia. Sad!

Baashi, Walle you are a siyasi abtiyow. You have diplomatically stopped short of catogorically and unequivically condemning the precence of xabashi fighters fighting somali men!. For me, EVERYTHING else changed the day nin xabashi pointed a gun towards another somali in SOMALI SOIL. I have hard time already having to deal with the daily harrasment,killing and torturing of somalis in Somali Galbeed by Xabashi. Just 25 meagre years ago,We were fighting these men and many many somalis lost their lives protecting you and me from this kind of aggression & here we letting that same enemy that has killed somalis yesterday,is killing somalis today into SACRED somali soil fighting against somalis in SOMALIA. Worse,is that we have somalis cheerleading for this enemy,all for what?? Because of qabyaalad. And please sxbow do not say that those 8K etoobiyan soldiers were trainers. B.S.Its a shame and its a shame that every somali must fight. I take this issue personally for I have had close family members fight against the xabashi in the war and so did many many somalis. In respect of this,I would expect every somali to at least condemn the precense of Xabashis fighting alongside somalis killing fellow somalis. That to me,is undoubtfully an eact of treason committed in the eyes of EVERY patriotic somali. Anyone who stands up to this bullying midget of a tigre called Meles has my undying support ,The same support my uncle,Heblayos father & heblow gave his life,his support to fight this OLD enemy that is the Xabashi. I agree,tho' there is some truth to what you have said about the IUC being a bit too hasty with their aggression. But Baashi,runtii do you actually beleive the Xabash and Adeer Sam would have let these wadaads take over Somalia? Realisticaly, in a G.W Bush pre 9/11 world? K'mon nin oday baa tahaye,be realistic.

Is this war necessary? yes or no? Why? Is the timing right? Has UIC main objective of kicking dozen of Habasha advisers (the main obstacle of peace negotiation) been achieved I think this statement here is what made people take sides. The TFG says that the Xabashi have only advisors while the rest of the somalis say that close to 10K xabashi soldiers have invaded somalia. For every true somali nationalist void of Qabil,has made his support for the IUC. Not becoz for a true love for the IUC but for a common historical hate for the Xabashi.SIMPLE sxb Baashi,so long as you beleive that the Habashi have just sent some mere dozen trainers and not a military,I dont think you will EVER agree with the IUC side . Lets face this simple truth. Baashi, I have very simple questions sxb: IWHY is Meles putting so MUCH money,TIME,Weapons on a somali faction that doesnt have much support from a majority of somalis? [iI]Do you[Adiga personally Baashi] think its in the interest of Somalia & Somalis to have Ethiopia have the ability to decide which somali gov't rules Somalis? [iII]Is it in the interest of the entire Horn of Africa region for ethiopia to clout so much power? Will YOU[bashi] as a somali allow the Xabashi to clout so much power? [iV]. What is your thought about Xabashi soldiers fighting in SOMALI soil againt SOMALIS,knowing well what we have been thru the Xabashis? [V]. So,What becomes of the occupied land of Somali Galbeed that had so many brave somali warriors spill blood for their land? Will, this land be ever left for the xabashis?, in the event that Meles and an ethiopian backed govt comes into power? Over to you sir

Originally posted by Paragon: balse markaad Ciin daaqdaad laguu yaabaa'. Lol marka raggan waxaan leedayahy Ciin beey daaqeen oo sidaas ka dhigey? Allow Ciinka na gees mari. . You hit the Musbar on the Madax[yuuls]

Brown lol, iska daa raggan, wey yara dacareysan yihiine . ^^ KKKKKKK War dacaar/Ducuur maahin, Geed ciin ah oo Tigrada dhulkeeda kabaxo ayee daaqeen. Ileen waa xoolo,geed doog badan oo cagaaran umbeey arkeen asee daaqeen,isma dhihin geedku ma ciin ba?? Mataga iyo shubanka aad ujeedid, Waxaa uleh geedkaas ciinka ah

Originally posted by Abaadir: Nice Buraanbur Paragon. LOL, Xabashi la dhaqasho dhibkeeda lehda. Waa kana wa hadaan nin somali aan kala aqoon the difference btwn Baranbur & gabay. War Xabashi ku dhilifow,hada ayaan ku soo xususiyo, Raga somaleed wee gabyaan, Haweenkane wee baramburaan "Baara-Gon"[ ],Adeer i like this part: Tab dabaal ninkii aan oqoon ayaa, moolka tiimbada e

I think he might be the first Somali-American(Somerican ? Somalian-American ? whatever) interviewed on a major TV network. Not correct. Omar Jamal was on the O'reiley factor when the movie black hawk down was out,when was that movie out? 2002? Another famous Somali American was Hussein Aideed,he appeared on Geraldo just after 9/11,where he took Geraldo to Luuq and showed the former madrasas of Al-itihad and pointed out: "They are here" LOL. Dont get too excited now. One thing tho',he probably was the best speaker among all of them.

I am an ethiopian Go choke on some raw meat then and oh ya go phck yourself[see,cursing helped ME] Nayrus,so long as the news is not verified by any mainstream media,Adna you are in the same boat as Gen.Flu(ke).