8. Q: Mr. President since you have announced that yours is a government of peace, and that you will save the public, if you now say we are going to burn everyone (who opposes us) what do you think of that? A: It is one side that is initiating the fighting. The instigators will be confronted with fighting. If they hide amongst the civilians there will be collateral damage to the civilians. You need to ask them (rebels) those kinds of questions like why don't you leave the civilian areas and fight the government somewhere else? It is they that you should ask such questions and goodbye! Ladies & Gentlemen,I present to you the man who wants to run(ruin?)the Somali republic!!

"The Islamists declared war on Ethiopia." This, of course, is a blatant and outright lie. (Although perhaps Gettleman, taking dictation from his "Western security officials" -- and apparently unable to access, say, the BBC on his computer -- doesn't actually know the truth. In any case, he obviously can't be bothered to find out.) The truth is that Ethiopia sent a 100-strong column of trucks and armored cars across the border into Somalia on July 20 of last year to bolster the Bush-backed warlords who were trying to overthrow the Islamist Courts government, which had taken over Mogadishu a month before. It was the day after this armed incursion into Somalian territory that the Islamist Courts declared a jihad "against Ethiopians in Somalia," not a "war against Ethiopia Oh well!

Watch what happens to Liverpool BTW,Murinho is 100% correct,Three years without a league title?

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Warkaan ma la hubaa Me-yow? Waa sida layiri,wee soo galeen cidi meeshan ahayd. Teeda kale,they have been in and around Northern Kenya since the infamous C-130 bombardments. Meel

"Even if we turned Mogadishu into Houston, there would still be people resisting us," said Abdirizak Adam Hassan, chief of staff for Somalia's transitional president, Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed. "I'm talking about the guys bringing in expired medicine, selling arms, harboring terrorists Can Someone remind Abdirizak that he is late 7 months & hodhodho?

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: The Frazer woman was fuming yesterday...so i guess it won’t be far before they start doing their carpet-bombing thing. Oo maxay la fume gareyneysaa? Nacalad baa kuutala dheh, balayo af yamba leh. :mad: Lander,that was my centiment as well,what is theire to bomb,Livestock Perhaps? Well that should give more reason for the silly Vet Dr to stay at his current job.

I see allot of the supporters of the secessionist enclave all of the sudden turning into Somali patriots and one can guess what’s motivating them. The irony of it all is in this Observation. We have secessionists sympathising with fellow Somalis being killed by Tigre Askaris,Secessionists yelling for the preservation of the soverignity of Somalinimo! But curiously enough,We have Proper Somalis(Stooges rather)inviting & letting in foreign gaal armies to kill their fellow Somalis. Yet those very same Somalis,have the audacity to question the Somalinimo of these secessionists.

Nominated MP Amina Abdalla, while announcing the position of the committee, said the Bill violated the rights of Kenyans as enshrined in the Constitution. Among the contentious proposals in the Bill are the vague and broad definitions of “terrorism” and “terrorist” act, the extensive powers given to the police and Customs officers to stop, search, seize, detain and arrest an individual. Yesterday, Mr Muite said that the contents of the Bill, which Justice and Constitutional Affairs minister Martha Karua said was under discussion, were not acceptable. “The Bill nullifies the rule of law such as the presumption that one is innocent until proved guilty,” he said. The proposals to give powers to the Internal Security minister to declare an individual or an organisation a terrorist was also likely to be abused. “ It gives the minister, in this case Mr Michuki, the powers to declare any individual or any organisation a terrorist,” Mr Muite said. He blamed the actions of President George Bush’s administration for the rising terrorism in the world and said the US should pay for its actions. “Nobody supports terrorism, but what the United States is trying to do is to relocate the theatre of action in the war on terrorism as far as possible away from the US. “And it has escalated because of the right wing Bush policies such as the invasion of Iraq,” he said

Why was this devil called to the whitehouse? I have a feeling that you will see some kind of "offensive" from the USA. C-130 gunships(Castro,this is a precursor i beleive)? Surely,something major will happen,This guy is notoriously known to break rules to satisfy bosses. :mad: Michuki off to the US for terror talks Story by NATION Team Publication Date: 4/23/2007 Internal Security minister John Michuki is leading a delegation to the United States for talks on insecurity as pressure mounts on the Kenya Government to enact an anti-terrorism law and crack down on drug trafficking. Internal Security minister John Michuki (right) during a recent visit to the clash-torn Mt Elgon District. Photos/ FILE Mr Michuki left the country on Saturday night to brief the US State Department about Kenya’s progress in enacting the Bill, which has met stiff opposition from lobby groups including the Muslim community. Sources close to the Government yesterday said Mr Michuki was asked to travel to America by officials of the US embassy in Nairobi. The US ambassador to Kenya, Mr Michael Ranneberger, confirmed Mr Michuki was off to the United States, adding that issues of insecurity in Kenya would be discussed. Requested dialogue “The Kenya Government requested to dialogue with the US Government on how to combat insecurity in the country,” Mr Ranneberger said in Kisii Town. He said Mr Michuki would hold talks with key US officials on how America can support Kenya in fighting insecurity. The Anti-Terrorism Bill, which was first published in 2003, was shelved last year by the Parliamentary Committee on Administration of Justice and Legal Affairs and little has been heard about it since. The committee is chaired by Kabete MP Paul Muite. Mr Michuki left Jomo Kenyatta International Airport, Nairobi, accompanied by officers from the anti-terrorism and narcotics police units and the Attorney-General’s chambers. He did not reveal the reason behind the visit. Accompanied by several bodyguards, Mr Michuki was ushered through an entrance reserved for VIPs. The US embassy press attache, Ms Jeniffer Barnes, also confirmed that Mr Michuki had travelled to America, but did not give details on the trip. “I can confirm that the minister has, indeed, travelled to the US, but I don’t have any other details about the trip,” she said. But independent sources said Mr Michuki, who travelled on a British Airways flight, was to make a stopover in London before proceeding to the US for the three-day official visit. Mr Ranneberger said that among other things, the Internal Security minister will be informing US officials on steps the Kenya Government had taken to combat insecurity. He described the meeting as one between two friendly countries, which, he said, had co-operated in combating insecurity in the region. Anti-terrorism law Though the US has publicly stated that it was Kenyans and nobody else who would determine the type of anti-terrorism law to be passed by Parliament, it has at the same time expressed concern about the slow pace in enacting the law. “The US wanted to know what the Government was doing to enact an anti-terrorism law, since it had committed itself to have a law in place to check the heinous act, but so far it has not done enough,” the source said. Mr Michuki’s visit comes only a few weeks after a terrorism suspect, Mr Abdulmalik Mohammed, was moved to Guantanamo Bay, a US military prison for terror suspects. Mr Mohammed, according to the US and Kenya governments, is linked to the terror attacks on an Israeli airliner and Kikambala Paradise Hotel in Mombasa in 2002. Though the two governments have said that the 34-year-old is a foreigner, his family in Mombasa insists that he is Kenyan. The source said Mr Michuki was also scheduled to meet Home Office officials in London on his way back to Nairobi and the two topics are expected to be discussed. A source at the British High Commission said that the UK was also interested in the contents of the Anti-Terrorism Bill, and would like to see it passed to help the West fight international terrorism. Accepts responsibilty Contacted yesterday, Mr Muite’s committee said the Bill would not be debated until the US accepts responsibility for attacks on American interests in Kenya. Nominated MP Amina Abdalla, while announcing the position of the committee, said the Bill violated the rights of Kenyans as enshrined in the Constitution. Among the contentious proposals in the Bill are the vague and broad definitions of “terrorism” and “terrorist” act, the extensive powers given to the police and Customs officers to stop, search, seize, detain and arrest an individual. Yesterday, Mr Muite said that the contents of the Bill, which Justice and Constitutional Affairs minister Martha Karua said was under discussion, were not acceptable. “The Bill nullifies the rule of law such as the presumption that one is innocent until proved guilty,” he said. The proposals to give powers to the Internal Security minister to declare an individual or an organisation a terrorist was also likely to be abused. “It gives the minister, in this case Mr Michuki, the powers to declare any individual or any organisation a terrorist,” Mr Muite said. He blamed the actions of President George Bush’s administration for the rising terrorism in the world and said the US should pay for its actions. “Nobody supports terrorism, but what the United States is trying to do is to relocate the theatre of action in the war on terrorism as far as possible away from the US. “And it has escalated because of the right wing Bush policies such as the invasion of Iraq,” he said. Fund projects The Safina MP urged the Government to bargain seriously and demand that the US funds some of its projects as Kenya assists Washington in dealing with alleged terrorist cells in neighbouring Somalia. “Kenya should drive a hard bargain and the US should preferably donate forensic laboratories to the country for quicker tests. The US should know that Kenya’s priority is not terrorism; it is insecurity,” he said. On narcotics, Kenya has in the recent past been mentioned as one of the transit points by drug traffickers. In 2003, the British minister of State for Counter-Terrorism, Dr Kim Howells, said Kenya had become a transit point for cocaine destined for Europe. Dr Howells claimed that Mombasa Port “was becoming the fastest growing route for cocaine entering Europe” and described the seizure of Sh6 billion cocaine as “a tip of the iceberg”. The drugs have since been destroyed and a man jailed for 20 years in connection with the haul. Other suspects in the case were freed.

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: Saaxib.....Just like after Barre's fall, Maryooley have no plan to erect any goverment after these stooges are ousted. My fear is iyagaa isku soo jeesanayaa. You could be right,maybe they will face one another. But thats the future & all we can do is pray for the future to be better. Right now(literaly)a gaalo army is shelling & killing your people. Let Allah decide what is for the future,you and I should focus on the present,our duca & charity should go into helping the deceased & the needy.

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: Brown.....She might have a point...Let them kill each other to the last man. Read what Comrade Castro said above you. Teeda kale,Che Maxaa ku qaaday beryahan? *cringe*

I feel the same way, but condemning the TFG doesn't mean you support the 'resistance'..the 'resistance' can go to hell for all I care. I say we should let them finish each other off..I don't give a damn anymore. May the team with the biggest guns win Loool.Subxaanalah.Bisinka qabso walaal. You should wish for peace upon Somalis & not wish the Tigres the best(since they have the big Guns). Teeda kale,what compelled you to say those horrible things about your lovely TFG? *Cringe*,I ask,I ask

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^The clashes are already being won, I know some here compare the situation to Iraq, but the Looters Inc are not the Sunni army of Sadam Hussain. District by district is falling, and these groups are loosing allot of ground, Hotel Ramadan, Fagax, Yaqshid , Sanca and most of the areas they were holed up has been already taken. Its incremental measures being taken the result the defeat of the anti-governemnt groups. LOL,OK! So,let me get this; Civilians run away from location A,The Etobiyans roll in with Tanks,thats considered gaining ground haye?

Ciidamada Itoobiya oo lagu jabiyey dhamaanba weeraradii ay maanta soo qaadeen. Warkaas aa iga degaa. Jijibiya Tigreeda,nacaltulaahi minal kafirin...

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^lool, that was amusing indeed. Add something to the topic lad. With all due respect,There is NOTHING to be added on this topic. Its fair on Xanthus's part to ask you what kind of drug you are on. Your idealogical brother,the great Sergent(sakhar)admitted that this war is unwinnable. You should probably ask for the anti-dote he took,for he has come to his senses.

Wlc Back!

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: ^^On top of that, it’s looking more realistic to oppose the tfg now than it did right after the tank-riding stampede into Mogadishu and Kismayo. Walle waad fahantay meeshan ulajeeday; War ninku xikmad badanaa? Waryee,Che,waa inaad dhageeysataa odayga eeganeyto.

Faarax, i dont think the man understands what he says. He's really traped, and more likely will end up killing more people than he already did in his life. May he see the light,Amen

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: quote: Somalia: Current Prospects for Reconciliation and Development Pointless to talk prospects of peace and development when people are being blown to bits in the streets of Xamar. What do these meetings accomplish anyway? You are correct. But sometimes these meetings shed light on the current issues. It goes out to the medias & there are prominent people who are speaking,so if someone or cid hebel hears their leader speak against something,more than likely they will end up supporting that move. Sometimes,its OK to discuss.

He also said the unpopular Ethiopians would have withdrawn by now if the violence had not continued. Mhmmmmm....Now those are some really wise words from the Prezz.

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: Waste of Time !! Why do you say that good Che?

^Are you going?

Originally posted by sheherazade: when u read it any other way than psycho u're despo. ^^ Crush their Mojo!

Aduunyo,The Point iyo Xiin oo in agreement ah? This is taking valuable time off the Larger Somali issue ina abtiyaal My question to you guys is,If the leadership & the people of Somaliland,decided to join their brothers some decades ago & decide not to be a part of it no more,Who has the right to keep them in? Forget the morality of this all,lets say that the ppl of Somaliland really feel different from the southerners,what if they really dont wanna be a part of a union anymore?

^Whoa,Sug bal. The whole argument is on the colonials adeer. It shows,how these two partners were different entities before they joined hands. Great Britain & Italia were different & they granted inpedendence to both colonies @ different times. The adminstration was different,the leadership was different,everything was different. The only common thing was Somalinimo & JSL & its people decided to join their brethren that were divided by the whiteman. I think its weaker argument on your end to dismiss the importance of the colonial masters. It shows how these two partners were different colonies,well at least thats what they are arguing from. I however understand thats it the moral thing for Somalis to be united but You cant just brush this off an claim it as another province,really its not. Elysian,The leadership of JSL went into parnership with the leadership of italian Somalia, When and if inshallah a govt elected by the people of Somalia comes in,then JSL needs to sit down and formulate this. Afterall this was a UNION not forceful encarvment of someland(like OG region & NFD).