Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: Visit both countries and you'll see the difference ,,,,,,,,, ^^ How simple of you J/Baro The difference(or similarity) is not of the physical geography kind,its idealogical. Riyaale & Meles are both made of the same Caw :eek:

Originally posted by Jimcaale: ^Let's make that a permanent term. Fits them perfectly. war amee arintaas lagaroonyahay?

Originally posted by Northerner: ^^About wishing death on others however tempting it may be. Ow,well I didnt really wish death on him,just said it was unfortunate that he missed death by a wisker... Frankly speaking it matters little because i am sure Gacmodheer will be given his post.

Originally posted by Northerner: Easy guys. Lets be careful here. Careful about whot Norf? J/Baro looks like it ina adeer

"Fortunately no one was hurt. I am sure thats a typo,Should have been Unfortunatly~

Just don't be silly enough to convince yourself that few boys running around xaafada and occassionally succeeding to pull off one attack to only have their families pay a big price later on will get any1 anywhere So long as you reducing these whole thing to a mere playground scenario,You are far from accepting reality. Dowladaan meel umasocoto & 1 clan or not there ppl who are determined to see it FAIL!! Nabad geliyo adeer,cidda shah usii qaad

Originally posted by Baashi: True Farax. And yes this TFG doesn't have what it takes to lead the task at hand. Its headmaster is very polorizing figure. But they do have Ethiopia on their side. Uncle Sam is on their side too. The odds are stacked against the insurgency. Ethiopia has not distinguished between insurgents and the civilians whose residences they hid behind. They will continue to do so. You provoke them and they will drop the hammer down! Bendir will continue to suffer from this indiscriminate shelling. You know the drill. You have seen the pictures. Insurgency haven't achieved an iota in last round. War heedhe read my posts for crying out loud I'm not for Ethiopia how can I be???? I want them out ASAP! To make that happen, reconciliation is one imperfect way in acheiving that? Again I'm questioning the effectiveness of the insurgency boowe. It didn' work last time. It will not work. It can't work. To make it work you need the support of sizable portion of Somali masses. Without that you just killing Benadir maato softly. Other Somalis seem to be sitting out on this. They consider your struggle as clannish. You are on your own, it seems. If a sizable portion of Benadir residence appear to be ignoring your plight. Don't support those who want to put their necks on the line. There other ways to fight back. That's all I'm saying dude! Vintage Baashi iga dheh!! So this is what you are saying? a) These current devils do not have what it takes to lead a genuine reconciliation between Somalis, b)The insurgency is just but one clan that wont achieve nothing c)Ethiopia along with Uncle Sam's deep pocket is here to stay & will continue to demolish hadii la duqduqeeyo.. Maxaa talo marka imika? :confused:

Originally posted by Baashi: Idinka are the chiken hawks who would love to see the continuation of the war in Benadir on the one hand and shed a crocodile tears for the victims of the war they so loudly support on the other hand. I don't know what to make of them anymore. Xaashaa awoowe I'm not pointing finger at Allah-fearing, Shari'a-loving Muslims who want Somalia that's governed under the good book. I'm questioning the tactics used by some (don't kno who they are but think they are some of the Benadir sub-clans) who endanger the innocent civilian population by provoking these FTs. Aduunyoy! Adeer,The TFG & the Ethiopians are worse than those very same people you are accusing,They didnt distinguish between civilians & fighters. The President himself is on record saying Dadka waa la laynayaa ,The Ministers were all on record(Gacmadheere) & the PM was on record too. They started killing civilians long before the fighters used them as "Shields" so sheekadas cid ay kusoconeyso maleh. What I hope you will understand is that this TFG with its current devils as leaders will not and cannot bring Somalis together.They lack credibility,vision & wisdom to lead this daunting task of reconciling a country deeply divided. Period!!

Originally posted by Baashi: Farax, 1. Are you strong enough to wage an effective insurgency? 2. Do you have other Somalis on your side or this is a cause taken up by few sub-clans? 3. What do you want? 4. What are your realistic plans to attain your goals? My problem with your cyber warmongering is you seem to be a chiken hawk ya know what I mean! You provoke Ethiopians and Ugandans and you run away and hide behind civilian areas. When hell broke loose you turn around and base your resistance on the very civilian casualties you yourself instigated in first place! That's not a plan that's bannoni ku ciyaar maatadaada inta dhagax ku soo tuurtid gaal aan ku turihayn Ilaahayna ka baqayn. War maxaa idinka qaldan? Baashi, war sidee kaa noqotay awoowe? What's with the accusatory and finger pointing tone in your post? You're insinuating that the Wadaads are behind this?, no one knows who did this so I suggest you retract those baseless acquisations. You cannot come here & speak of fairplay when the presence of this whole TFG is based on unfairness. What I wrote out there is not my position on the issue, I was strictly speaking from an insurgent's point of view. The fact of the matter is that there several groups of people who are desperate to see this government fails. Are they part of the ICU? maybe, are they a clan based movement? No one knows. That aside, We have discussed on numerous occasions the position held by the Wadaads & I don’t see any use of repeating that which is obvious, so your questions about what when and how this process needs to unfold is all a click away from the archives of SOL. War maxaa idinka qaldan? Anakee? :confused:

Originally posted by Baashi: No awoowe...Yoweri wants the average family in Mogadishu to enjoy peace. He volunteered his troops to lend a hand provided others will foot the bill. He can cut his losses 2morrow and take his trrops out of harms way. Ethiopians will fill the vacuum and as you have seen they are willing to kill 10 for one fallen Habash! Awoowe maxaa kuu siyaaday? Sheekoy kunacday! Thats the official line miyaa these days? :rolleyes: Yoweri,sent in his troops for a number of reasons,I can assure he didnt do it for the love of a Somali citizen. He sent his troops to protect a government that is lead by devils & has killed 1000s of Muslim Somalis, As far as an insurgent is concerned,its all (Fair)game meat adeer. Waa Yey iyo labadiis dhegood.

Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte: I don't see how this helps any cause. Big mistake indeed. They have killed the wrong guys. Meles loves this kind of news because he doesn't want AU troops coming to Somalia. In abti,What is left of a cause anyway? Aduun oo dhan baa laisku qaribay durba. Its all chaos & any target is good sport as of now. Besides,the attacks on UG soldiers started the day they set foot @ the airport,its not really new?

Originally posted by The Duke: Also I am no longer a General since the war ended. No titles saxib just Duke. The "Duke" is not a title iam guessing?

Originally posted by Baashi: Big mistake! Ugandans are here to help us. They have abstained from the recent fighting. Why kill them? What have they done to Benadir folks? The insurgency are making the case for the TFG charges. Big mistake indeed! The Mistake was made by Yoweri,brnging in former rebels to a war zone in disguise as peacekeepers.

This is Dooro-spotation.

Originally posted by Johnny B: FB, you're right atheer, you can even bet your your boots that i stand for obviously oxymoronic of the questions, as i've difficulties taking things at face value. That i come out as a miles away shooter doesen't bother me as long as you're willing to educate me and let me on the secrets of inner-circle. From my humble understanding , Sharea is the ideal law of a Slamic state , and as such it's dependant on interpratations of those who will live under it, it has to have exceptions and Mutatis mutandis paragaphs to cover all the aspects of a Human society. Now FB, are you telling me that Sharea is a devine law that covers A to Z of all aspects of life? my questioning of its devinity maybe is of ignorance but it all depends on your evidence of its devinity in comparasion to falliable man-made laws. Mind you walking me through it? JB,lol.You are asking to be educated on a subject that you are questioning its validity & existence? Isn't that unsurprisingly oxymoronic of you? But since you said that you fail to take anything at face value, I guess you are entitled to take anything that you so wish. As for your question regarding the Sharea being Devine A-Z law, I am not sure if I got the question right. If I havent,please correct me. Otherwise,The sharia is the Devine law from Allah that covers every aspect of the human society. Of course it depends on the intereptration of those who live under it, but those interpretations have already been set and as such doesn’t require much change,but if then such a society decides to go astray from the known known of sharia guidelines & implements its own set of rules,then of course it wont be a Devine law,since it not pure. Now commonsense will dictatate that such an entity( government or society) with flawed interpretations, doesn't really become a true sharia state. If it’s the former, then of course I must tell you with a resounding yes, that indeed the sharea is 100% Devine law that covers from A-Z, You should know that dear JB by now

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: I guess Kismayo can now categorized as being terrorist safe haven. Faarah...Hiiraale is bafoon too. The man lacks the foresight. Of course he is one heck of a flustered foolish criminal. All warlords & anyone affliated with Somali Politics can be classified as a bafoon.

Originally posted by Paragon: ^^ . Whether they were fully or partly working with the TFG or not, now it seems that they are all out of it. And the Kismaayo issue might change its nature. We might not hear from our local TFG flag bearers that the both sides of Kismaayo conflict are TFG soldiers. I just don't know what the TFG was thinking when they sacked Barre Hiiraale. Their action now tribalizes and as a result unites clans who were partly dis-satisfied with the TFG. I remember many months ago, I predicted that Hiiraale would someday be the next target. Lol, let me try digging up that thread. Paragon,Adeer you are expecting too much from the TFG. The PM is a bonafide bafoon while the President is a world renown Bulldog. They know nothing about making shrewd political moves,including the sacking of Hirale. This whole saga with Hiraale started the day he was denied the leadership of Kismayo, it was made worse when he was reduced to a mere spectator under house arrrest 300miles away,while his counterparts(Yey & Gedi) killed Somalis, what more punishment do you want for a warlord? Let them all rott in hell,amin

Originally posted by Paragon: So what does this mean for current occupiers of Kismaayo? Does it mean that the whole of reer Gedo/Caabudwaaq are out of the TFG? Were they Fully part of it in the past 2 Months? If they were,I think its safe to say they are ALL out now,Lets ask Horn

Originally posted by nuune: ^^ Sxb Emperor, horta war sugan lama hayyo illaa hadda, oo inuu soo baxsadey, inuu iskiis usoo tagey, in gaadiid gaashaaman weheliyaan ama in la iska soo fasaxey, wax aan war u heyno ma jiro illaa hadda, we expected more from the Yeey media since they know alot, that is why I said maybe they knew inuu xabbis baydhabo ku jirey, so waxaan cuskanayey Yeey Media, lamaba yaabaneeyn aniga intaas iyo sababaha uu uga soo tagey Baydhabo, oo waxaan la yaabey markey dhaheen meeshuu ka talin jirey ayuu kusoo baraarugey una noqdey, af lagaado ayaan u arkaa hadalkaas laguna minja-xaabinayo masuulnimada Hiraale iyo odeynimadiisa, kolleey umaadan fiirsan hadalkaas aan af lagaadada u arkey loo geestay Duq Hiraale! Xabsiga ee kujireen Aideed,Qaybdeed iyo Hiraale was not a "real Xabsi",it was like House arrest. Hodhel baa lagu wada haaye sorrunded by Tigre Askaris. I think they were given choices, Join the Govt,as a low ranked member with no pay or stay in Baidoa in a house arrest. So the warlords,opportunitstc as they are, did what each knew was good at; Qaybdeed,Sudi & Dheere took positions in the Govt,Aydeed went into assylum to talk out of his A$$ while Hiraale once again,marched to Kismayu to reclaim his lost glory(or was it bounty?) May they all Die in an inferno,Amin

Can i dash in and ask how could Caano geel or a mullah diferentiate how many of the sharea paragrapgs are devine and how many are man-made Lol,Trust JB to bring to ask the obviously oxymoronic of the questions. Johny B,Adeer,The Sharica Law,in case you didnt know is 100% devine. Caano,on a scale of 1-10,10 being the most liberal,how do you rate yourself?

^OK Khalaf,Have a great one

Originally posted by Munira002: Nevermind, democrasy is still a very new concept in Somalis.I better shut up, am still an alien.. Actually,Democrassy is vibrant among Somalis,Especially those of the diaspora, unfortunatly however,Democracy itself was completely absent and is non exitent in modern day Somali politics(hic)

Originally posted by rokko: Serenity War maxaad la dhoola cadeyneysaa? She just called you Cheeky,another term for being pushy Where are the rest of the pics yaa Val?

Very well said. But dont you think she is lil bit more closer to what you want: -TFG current leadership not fit to continue leading cause of their involvement in the massacre - suggesting that Ethio troops to leave as soon as the deployment of AU troops are completed, in order not to create security vacum - Organisation and convening of the reconciliation government should not involve current members of the TFG, in attempt to legitimise it as sincere and unbiased She said all the above and more, so sxb instead of us all the time being negative and rebellious , shouldnt we build on that small gesture from Ms.Fraser - I think we should. The other thing I like about her interview is how she revealed her interactions with Sheikh Sharif, not everything is holier than though. Adeer, What was the point of Jendayi's bosses spending millions of dollars on a mission they will abandon quickly? Did she suddenly realize that these two criminals are unfit to rule this chaotic nation and transform it into a vibrant democracy? A shining example for the rest of Africa? This is all Diplomatic talk, Reminds me of the phrase, Qawda maqashii waxna haa uqabanin… But,You never know politics, Its weired; we have seen the strangest & peculariest of coalitions & partners before. Who knows, You may have Duke & company supporting Yey & Riyale as insurgents on one side vs Xiinfanin & Co supporting the Ethiopians & Sh.Sharif on the other side as librators.

She is not being sincere,She is just being diplomatic,dishing out false hopes to the Islamicists in the hopes that the fruitless reconciliation meeting takes place. I doubt,after killing 1000s of innocent Somalis,these two tyrants will just roll over and let some other stooge take over. I just don’t see that anytime soon. What Jandayi needs to understand is that this is not about the pair of stooges of A/Y , the dumb Vet and the blind flock of sheep he leads,its about the policies & idealogies of the actions they have taken towards the Horn thus far. If She is serious about it,then she should have addressed the immidiete expulsion of the Ethiopians first & then remove the leadership that brought about this destruction. She further needs to Condemn the said actions & then champion for these killers to be brought to the Hague, anything short of that is just Bullsh!t. What is the point of replacing a stooge with another stooge?