Originally posted by sheherazade: schools, aa? Darn Americans. Yes,The Professors are loaded.. Watch itNow

Originally posted by The Duke: The warlords under the TFG were isloated, then they became bothing more than civil military officials in the TFG game, there are no warlord ministers, no warlord run quarters of the city. You are spinning out of control Duke,why do you humiliate yourself like this everyday?

The first phase was the defeat of clan courts and warlords. Duke,You are back at the deception & the lying games haye? Lying to the readers & trying to spin things your way? Mind telling the readers that the warlords were never defeated & were rewarded with plush govt positions? Tell the readers that they are indeed in the GOVERNMENT, Do it,please will ya?

Originally posted by Gordon Gekko: Conspirators Unite. And the Loyalists leap into action.

Waa markii ugu horreysay oo madaxda sare ee dfkmg ay booqdaan xaruntaasi oo lagu wado 14ka bishan aanu ku jirno in uu ka furmo sida la qoondeeyay shirka dib u heshiisiinta I am Book marking this thread & I'A report back on the 14th of June to see if that Reconciliation meeting will ever take place.

Originally posted by Paragon: ^^Lol. Aar waan is af naqaan balse nin faash sito garna ma gasho garna kama baxdo sxb . I am in Eastleigh actually. Around New Garissa Logde. And it is not that late, its around 20 past 7 African Time . Adiga goormaad u soo socotaa dhulkii mise waa mareekanowdey? I can tell that from the name lol. PS: Ok, now is late. I have to disappear towards where I live. I have developed the tendency to loiter Nairobi during the night. Very bad of me, I know. LOL@Nin faash sito, War anu umasocdo dhulkaas baaba'ay oo baahida dadka bi'isay, too much maroor dilaac. Anyway,Be safe niyow oo isilaali yaan ngeta laguu dhejin adeer, accentka iska dhumi & use as much sheng as you can,that way you will fit in well. Hadii kale, dhala Cocacola ah jeebka dambo gesho & hal marduuf oo jaad gacanta kuqabso Btw, meesha ma weli sidii bey udad badantahay?

Loool,Hadaad kenyaati ka baqaysid like that, Bal sideed u carar doonta markaad aar guuxayo aragto when you go back to dhulkii? I was close enough nooh, Marakeni waan sheegay & I did say Mtito Andei maalin dhexdaas, Anyway,xageed online kutahay? Its late in Eastleigh amise you are in upper Nairobi? War ila hadal!! Xiin, lol@the sayiid's corrupted version of the carar. Geesinimadii lagu sheegaye Somalida xagee qabatay?

Fuleey Xaar Majaani alaylee So the first picture was where in Mombasa? It must be Marekani or Bombululu or Bamburi,its got to be up the island yaa Paragon! The Second Picture is also in Mombasa? The Mosque looks like the one in Mckinnnon :confused: Viking,Saidia Edit: Those must be the Famous Taita hills Paragon? The Baobab tree is so obvious,You need to go on a Safari in Taita Tavveta or Voi...Nice resort town yeah?

Reminds me of that documentary made just immidietly after the fall of Mog, Paradise destroyed. Now,That geel is amazing....

*D/P*

Adeer, the PM is facing what anyone in his position would, however he is in the capital and is doing his work. leaders from stronger nations have been executed in their own countries, Kennedy, Lincoln and even Reagen was shot in the US. Musharaf of Pakistan was targeted twice, Sadat was murdered and Hosni Mubarak escaped with his life. Even in Somalia in 1969 the President was murdered in home soil. I don’t know what to make of you really Duke,I think you need to quit this BS,enough is enough! I know you just didn’t compare Gheedi to Lincoln,No you didn’t!!! *Sigh* Do you know who Abraham Lincoln was? He didn’t let the Canadians to fight for him in his quest to Abolish Slavery. Lets not even go into Kenedy & Reagan. Musharaf & Mubarak just like your Stooge PM Geedi have Muslim blood on their hands & one day they will pay for it.

Originally posted by Caano Geel: quote: I don’t think anyone is calling for pan islamism or calling for the rejection or expulsion of the secular movements. I think what the Ulamas are calling for is staying true to the message,the ways and means of the prophet & his Saxabas. I don’t think this qualifies as an anathema Caano. Faarax saaxiib, the stated aim of the Khalifet movement is the creation of one worldwide Khilafah and like any other movement/philosophy, the Ulama has always called for staying true to the message - regardless someone will always feel something is missing. The stated aim it is,we are talking about the reality of the day Caano. Why would doubting the Khalifah lead to doubting the quran? .. careful there, otherwise it will sound like the 'keep your self dump and your mouth shut' argument. If you put it in that context,it will otherwise sound as such. But you really need to look at the presiding quote sxb from your freind up there. She clear doubted the justness of the caliphas,who used the quran as a guideline given to them by the prophet.

Originally posted by The Duke: ^^The PM of Somalia and otehr leades have never left and are not leaving. Suicide bombers are the despearate act of the defeat foreign elements in Somalia. Those who used to launder money, live in safety while the Somali people suffered. They shoudl be exterminated. Xiin,forget the semantics,Duke here has a had time differentiating between the PM not being safe & him not leaving. Duke,You dont have to be in a place to feel safe & Yes Meles came to check on his little bi

Originally posted by Naden: ^^^Oh my! * Blushes furiously * I must then reciprocate and respond to the ruggedly handsome Faarax-Brown. quote: They are past and present that affect the future, it’s a continuing call that was always preached by ALL ULAMAS of every color in every geographical area to ALL demographics. Very spirited and inspirational! The new call or sahwa is not my word but those of numerous religious groups and parties. I see little new in it as it largely clothes old ideas in new clothes. Doubting the justness of the Caliphas is of course tantamout to doubting the prophet,which of course means doubting the message itself. That's what you say and does not make it the truth. Tantamount is one of those expansive terms, large enough to twist someone's words and scary enough to suffocate a discussion. OK,I think you either have no clue of your subject matter or you are hell bent on triviliazing the caliphate dynasty. Before I comment on this statement, I will like for you to first find out the jurisdiction of the caliphas................that will give you an insight & hopefully save me some much needed time. Not one to miss a chance to be schooled by a Faarax and a Brown one at that, I will say go ahead and save the time now in this case. Highlighting my ignorance may very well be valid but will not mask your own of the subject. Your admiration of the dynasty's size, wealth and scope of influence is noted. What this has to do with the faith and modern day sharia application remains a mystery. [/QB]Well, I feel violated with all your receptive blushings & your lavish praises,None the less thank you ma'am. Now,back to the topic;Your first two quotes are but your opinion, I will respect them & let you be Naden. As for schooling you, I am no historian & it certaintly was not my intention to come across as a schooler if you must,but I will have you know that any large dynasty has laws beyond marriage,divorce & inheritance. Business & Trade laws,taxes,military rules of engagment,land laws among many are also covered. My ascertion to the size and civilization was really meant for comparison purposes as that any society that big really requires complex laws. That’s all lady...

Naden, i agree with you on that, its sad for the notion that a pan-islamic movement is the anathema to the secular political movements for no reason other the kleptomania of modern muslim rulers. Its also sad that its no more than the current bandwagon, much like the socialist inspired movements were in the 50's and 60's. and lets not even start on the "awakening" I don’t think anyone is calling for pan islamism or calling for the rejection or expulsion of the secular movements. I think what the Ulamas are calling for is staying true to the message,the ways and means of the prophet & his Saxabas. I don’t think this qualifies as an anathema Caano.

Originally posted by The Duke: Xiin, quoting Dayniile.com. Its progress that Mogadishu is safe enough for a leader of another country to visit. The Italian deputy minister came, who will follow. The Ugandan President? Safe for Meles but not so safe for the Prime Minister eh?

I didnt follow the whole thread but i will like to respond to the lovely Naden. CG, what is even more troubling is the number of young people reared and bred in so-called secular laws handing over their brain to these new calls for a return to the past. Impoverished and hopeless youth in the muslim world, their future cannibalized by a parasitic upperclass, are rightly drawn to this utopic return of a khalifa who will do justice by them. How the wealthy, western-bred ones subscribe to this is a mystery. Its not a new call dear Naden & its not laws of the past & its certainly not directed at the young; They are past and present that affect the future, it’s a continuing call that was always preached by ALL ULAMAS of every color in every geographical area to ALL demographics.What you term as a "new" call is nothing really but an awakening to follow that which was done and said by rasululah(saw) some centuries ago. There is no proof that those termed khalifas (a political position that has nothing to do with the faith) or sahabas were any more just as a group than others who are nonkhalifa/nonsahaba. I would like to remind you that the caliphas really didn’t come with their own style of governance, they followed the exact ways and means of the prophet (saw). These laws of course came DIRECTLY from Allah(swt),Doubting the justness of the Caliphas is of course tantamout to doubting the prophet,which of course means doubting the message itself. A side from a few documented cases of human error,the caliphs followed the teaching of the prophet to the best of their knowledge & ruled in the most just manner. Save for a few direct laws (mostly concerned with personal/civic rights such as marriage, divorce, inheritance), there is no reason to believe that what is termed sharia as a whole is a God ordained system of governace OK,I think you either have no clue of your subject matter or you are hell bent on triviliazing the caliphate dynasty. Before I comment on this statement, I will like for you to first find out the jurisdiction of the caliphas, the size of the dynasty they ruled & the level of civilization attained during that time of period. Perhaps,that will give you an insight & hopefully save me some much needed time.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: A very interesting development indeed. What it’s that he could not do in Addis that he come to do in Xamar? Perhaps it’s the photo op that which he could not resist having that he risked to be in Xamar! I think its good ol fashioned management requirements. The foreman must be at the jobsite when the contractor sees lack of progress from the workers. Period. Things are going bad down their,Uncle Sam needs a report.

Originally posted by Sophist: Faarax: I am sure they are; but this is not politically savy not to mention take once life being Haraam! Well, the enemy didn’t approach the people in a savy way,Matter of fact that enemy brutally killed & displaced the masses. Furthermore,this enemy is not interested and doesn’t even recognise this group as a political entity, they are reffered to as Terrorists. Looks like its an all out assault on commonsense adeer.

The key issue is trust The trust was lost when a bunch of crooks handed that key to an enemy. And as long as they & their supporters are claiming that enemy is a loving brother,NOTHING will be solved!!

Originally posted by Sophist: We need to save the country; the way some think they can help our people is laughable to say the least. It is shameful not to mention foolish for young men and women to blow themselves in the name of patrioism. Aloow noo gargaar!. There some on the ground who beleive this is the right way to save the country.

Originally posted by XOG-ogaal: aabihiii garashaday gayigaygooo sinwawi war heesta ugu darta odayga bal I have a better version for you,goes something like; Aabihi garacyasha gayga ahayoo ..... That last bomb attack on Gedhi musta shaked his stooge azz off yeah? Nacalad baa kuugu taalo dheh. But you know this just feels surreal,I mean this is the kind of things only to be seen on the headlines of the Washingtonpost not on Somali websites. Like when Cheney makes a suprise visit to Baghdad.

Originally posted by rokko: rokko has no game, like Intuition said I will Probably believe that too Rokko, You dont need any Game when you are naturally cool,right? Comes with the teritorry adeer,In due time you will master how to handle praise. I know this well,I have handled it pretty well so far Sofunkticated,Compliments you will get plenty but first,you should change your nick, Someone so cool cannot and should not own such a funked up name.

Ninka geedka hoos taagan waa kumaa? Geedku ma Garas baa? Also,is that close to Mtito Andei or Taveta?

Originally posted by The Duke: Adeer spare me the nonsence, but the TFG has only ever fought in self defence against the worst criminals in modern Somali history, led by Xasan Dahir, IndaCade and others who looted the properties of millions of Muslims, killed and maimed others and led children to war and then left them in the lurch. These are facts. The very same people who you said were genuine without a shadow of doubt right? Which Duke should i beleive? huh