I've to say... i love SOL and the admins.. a great bunch

I was watching the news today about the Shia Muslims in Iraq being targetted by suicide bombers..how said is this? We have division among ourselves as muslims and we're willing to kill .. its a really scary thought

^^ Why do u have NIN-YAABAN's avator?

^^ :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Sophist, if im not mistaken, they are classified as psychological disorders n require psychological treatment. Eg: Phobias are treated by talking with the patient and having them confront their fear.

Viking , that link was . Very enlightening.

Smth_Lady...same here.. I sleep like 10-12hrs most days! I wish I could stay awake and do something worthwhile with my time..but just cant seem to shake off the Zzzz's . Except for Gay And Proud, we dont have any of the shops u mentioned. And I dont shop at GAP. The two retailers I mentioned are fab, except for the length problem. DnD , is that something you pulled out of thin air or are you gonna back it up with evidence? Dont be defaming the only shop I can get 50% off

Perhaps you find - Anaroxia, bulimia, insomnia, dimentia, Schizophrenia, sexual disfunctions, addiction, autism, phobias, dyslexia...and countless other dirorders funny Sophist?

The trick to studying is UNDERSTANDING. Just understand everything. Then write it in your own words. Worked for me and still does

The trick to studying is UNDERSTANDING. Just understand everything. Then write it in your own words. Worked for me and still does

Sophist, r u following me around maalmahan? For the last friggin time - this is not about me. I'm 'normal' except for a chipped tooth (which is getting fixed next week - mind u!). And thanks for the compliment BTW, for you to rebuff psychological illness as bullsh!t is just laughable. Good one!

^^ Ameenah..that was very informative. However, you'de just confirmed my main concern. Accoring to the hadith, you quoted Narrated Asma: (the daughter of Abu' Bakr) A woman came to Allah's Apostle and said, "I married my daughter to someone, but she became sick and all her hair fell out, and (because of that) her husband does not like her. May I let her use false hair?" On that the Prophet cursed such a lady as artificially lengthening (her or someone else's) hair or got her hair lengthened artificially This clearly prohibits any kind of cosmetic sugery or means to change your appearance even if illness befalls you. Also wouldnt this be contrary to the example agreed by Nur and Viking (although they were prudent enough to note it as opinion) about the implant being acceptable after a woman undergoes a mastectomy. :confused:

About the upcoming Football tournament, have you guys booked the ground? As far I know, there is no1 incharge (or taking charge) of the Brunel Somali Students Association.

Originally posted by Nur: Anyway, any surgery that puts a patient back to normal, no matter how deviate they were when they opted for such a deformation, is permitted in my opinion, and it is thus a medical in nature. This category includes kids who are born with a physical deformation like a split upper lip or any other type. Thanks Nur, that cleared things a little for me. I was just wondering if its completely objectionable or permitted under certain circumstances. Athena dear this is the 21st century. If it makes you happy and benefits you psychologically (and can afford it) just go for it. But check out al the pros and cons of the procedure Sis, to me thats a very 'blonde girl' attitude. True happiness is accepting yourself for who you are and accepting all the blessings Allah has bestowed upon us. I was referring to cosmetic surgery to make people feel 'normal'. Not to change from an 'A' cup to a 'D' for the heck of it or as u so eloquently put it, to make you happy (or on lookers!). I hope no1 has misunderstood my intention for posting this topic. From what I gather, its like piercing... u can do ur ears but its not ur eyebrows n upper lip + tongue ..that imitating the gaalos and unIslamic.

This is the nastiest post I've ever read here!!Yuck! I dont blv it tho...it would have been all over the papers. :eek:

Nur, I like all your Social Topics and Softwaano Series. I think these are topics that can be discussed. The other topics are readily available on the internet on alot of sites. I think its mostly the social issues of modern life that often get a bit hazy(atleast for me!)

And what makes it worse it that this practice is perpetuated mostly by the so called models of soceity - Wadaads and religious figures. Average Faarax's usually dont have the guts..but Wadaads, who has the right to question their motives besides God eh? Curly, according to some, the man doesn't even need the consent of his first wife to get a second. So he could be married and LOOKING i.e. proposing on other women all the time :rolleyes:

Thank U Nur and Baashi for taking the time to reply. I assure you brother Nur that this topic wasn’t about me but inspired by the countless hours I spend in front of the TV watching the Health Channel, from ‘Cosmetic Surgery: Before and After’ to ‘Operation’ and the recent ‘Extreme Make-Overs’ on Living TV. I sit there in awe all the time thinking why people go to such lengths when they look perfectly normal to me. However, there is a case here and there where I think, its less about media hype/stereotypes and more about just looking NORMAL. Of course one would argue that the entire concept of ‘normal’ is subjective. If we put ‘normal’ on a scale, there are some things that just tip it a little. Nur, breast implants just to enhance your looks is wrong-agreed.As Baashi put it Social norms and peer pressure should not make women alter their features. That will make them sexual objects ready for explotation as Bro Nur eloquently explained However, I was referring to when the breasts are under developed. I don’t want to get graphic but you’d have to see to believe its a serious issue for some. Senario #3 can be rectified by weight lifting. As far as I've read, no amount of working out and lifting will make the skin regain its elasticity. As Bro Nur stated medicine and medical procedures that alleviate pain and suffering are permitted in Islam. Pain is not only physical but emotional and psychological. So to elleviate these? :confused: My question was, is it acceptable under pressing circumstances?. I'd appreciate more input

Assalamu Calaykum wa raxmatullah wa barakaatuh Nomads. First of all..is it me or are there too many Cosmetic Surgery shows on television? I dont really know whats the stance in Islam on Cosmetic Surgery. I feel everyone is ready to jump the gun and condemn it as 'Xaraam' without trying to understand the complexities of the context under which it may/maynot be carried out. Can it be justified under certain conditions? I'll list a few scenerios that I think, its essential and equates to necessary. Scenario 1: Obesity. Say someone is obese and finds everyday situations difficult. Instead of insisting on exercise and diet which may not work or work over an extended period of time, liposuction can be done and the person would still need to exercise and diet but atleast they have a head start, so isnt this for the HEALTH of the person concerned and justified albeit liposuction being considered Cosmetic surgery. Scenario 2: Under Developed Breasts. Some young girls have breasts that are a little to severely under developed. This has profound psychological impact on them and leeds to severely low self esteem. Solution: Breast Implants. An argument I heard against this is that Islam prohibits the insertion of foreign particles into the body ( :confused: ), we have pace-makers, loops, etc inserted in other medical procedures... ? So obviously, I dont think that line of thought holds water. Scenario 3: Excess Skin. Sometimes alot of skin tends to hang about as a result of loosing weight swiftly or after child birth. This excess skin can only be got rid of by surgery. Obviously, this has psychological effect again. There are so many other procedures like nose-reconstruction, skin-grafting, all types of implants - buttocks,tighs, etc. So my question is...are these procedures approved in Islam under pressing ciscumstances?

^^ U seem to think Somali ladies cant cook either, WHO EXACTLY can cook in ur humble opinion Gediid? Pakistanis? U a curry boy?

Congratulations, Athena! Your IQ score is 132 This number is based on a scientific formula that compares how many questions you answered correctly on the Classic IQ Test relative to others. Your Intellectual Type is Word Warrior . This means you have exceptional verbal skills. You can easily make sense of complex issues and take an unusually creative approach to solving problems. Your strengths also make you a visionary. Even without trying you're able to come up with lots of new and creative ideas. And that's just a small part of what we know about you from your test results. ^^ I dont know...but I do appreciate the free adulation.

Well LSK, All I said was that the Education we are talking about here is set standard and not relative as you refer to it. We can fight about that if u want though I'd rather have you on my good side. PS. I know i'll win .... have u extinguished. LIKE THAT!

Well LSK, All I said was that the Education we are talking about here is set standard and not relative as you refer to it. We can fight about that if u want though I'd rather have you on my good side. PS. I know i'll win .... have u extinguished. LIKE THAT!

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