This gabay will make you love koonfurians.

You need to watch this. Very nice song and speech by old somali artists, dont know her name. At this kind of moments I do love that blue flag. makes me a bit emotional. Abti, who doesnt love that blue flag at these kind of moments. I will dedicate this thread for my love to the blue flag. And will post political songs, poems for the blue flag and Somali's. So nobody will ask me again silly questions, on if I would love the blue flag and somali unity.

Raxma Ruuxi, Somali Singer, she loves all Somali flags. Raxma sings for Sharif with blue flag Raxma sings for Obama and USA

He sure goes to places. I wonder how many Airmiles he saved?

Look, how Beautifull this flag is. it has even the famous star with blue all around it.

Originally posted by Cowke: Dadkii Maanta Laga Qabqabtay Boosaaso oo Galabta Loo Dhoofiyey Magaalada Gaalkacyo Gaalkacyo (RBC) Ciidamada booliska magaalada Boosaaso ayaa galabta magaalada ka dhoofiyey in ka badan 600 ruux oo maanta lagu qabqabtay hawlgal ay fuliyeen ciidamada. Gawaari waaweyn oo ay ka buuxaan dadka maanta la qabqabtay oo u badan dhalinyaro ayaa galabta u safray magaalada Gaalkacyo ee xarunta gobolka Mudug halkaasi oo sida dad xog ogaal ahi sheegeen dadka dib loogu celiyey. Sida RBC ay u sheegeen ilo wareedyo ku dhow hay’adaha amniga tirada guud ee dadka maanta la qabtay ayaa gaaraya 700 ruux oo dhamaantood laga qabtay waddooyinka magaalada Boosaaso , kuwaasi oo lagu ururiyey saldhigyada booliska ee magaalada. Baaritaan maanta lagu sameeyey dadka la qabqabtay ayaa lagu siidaayey 130 ruux oo sida la sheegay ka soo jeeda gobolada Puntland, halka tirada inteeda kalena galabta loo daabulay magaalada Gaalkacyo. Dadkan galabta loo qaaday Gaalkacyo ayaa ah dad dhalasho ahaan ka soo jeeda gobolada Koonfurta dalka, degaanka Soomaalida Galbeed (******iya) iyo dad ka soo jeeda qowmiyada Oromada ee Ethiopia, kuwaasi oo dhamaantood laga soo ururiyey magaalada Boosaaso. Saraakiisha amniga waxay gebi ahaan saxaafada u diideen inay wax xog ah ka bixiyaan dadka la qabqabtay iyo sida laga damacsan yahay, inkastoo warar hore ay sheegayeen in dadka la kala saari doono. Qabqabashada dadka maanta ayaa lagu tilmaamay sababo dhinaca amaanka ah, waxaana masuuliyiinta amnigu horey u sheegeen inay wadaan talaabooyin amniga wax looga qabanayo, gaar ahaan midka magaalada Boosaaso oo waayadan dambe qaraxyo iyo dilal qorsheysan ay ka dhacayeen. Ma cadda in hawlgalku uu sii socon doono maalmaha soo socda iyo inkale, Waxaana hawlgalkan maanta uu saameyn ku yeeshay dhaqdhaqaaqyada ganacsiga iyo hawlaha dadka caadiga ah ee magaalada ku nool kuwaasi oo cabsi ay ku beertay dadkan laga qabqabanayo waddooyinka magaalada. RBC Radio What will Puntland do with these people? Build concentration camps in Galkacyo and hold them there? Or punt them "across" the green line(future Seperation Wall) in Galkacyo? And since when is Puntlander a Nationality(Dhalasho)? And if so, is someone from Somali Galbeed not from the same "Nationality". Why hasnt there any Somalilander been deported, I know there are many in Bossaso. Do they enjoy special rights? Or is there are consular agreement on free movement of people between Somaliland and Puntland?

Cowke, my friend you are right. These people are having nice parties in Hotels in Nairobi and Djibouti without asking us. Its like the old days are back. I remember the '70 when these leaders from Xamar went each month to Italy for party(they called it Conferenza or riunione) in Roma, Milan, Virenze, they would drink machiato, smoke the best sigarettes, speak Italian to everyone en everything. Every month there was a riunione with someone. All these riunione were in Italian so we from the North were completely isolated from it. And when we tried to learn Italian, they laughed at us, started saying Wafakuulo. They never invited us to those parties. the worst of it they said celeenta cagaarka is not good for people and health. So it was made forbidden. So thats when SNM was started, to fight this discrimination. Look at them now, All of them are chewing caleentii everywhere. And every week there is a rebel group fighting the rest and they dont even know what they are fighting for or about; Al-Shabaab,Al-Ithixaad,Ahlu Sunna,Wal jamaca,Hisbul islam, muttada al sadr, ICU,TFG,TNG,SSC,etc,etc.

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: the constitution has strong human-rights provisions, including those for gender equality (the requirement of female representation in key national institutions, the banning of female genital mutilation and the acceptance of abortion if the woman’s life is in danger). On more reason for Somaliland not to join Somalia. Women having all the power. Nga qabta dadkan. Raagii ayaan khatiyaan ka tagaanahay, iska dhaaf dumar. You guys dont make it very tempting to draw back Somaliland. I thaught this whole Feferal idea was exactly because of that reason. Now 30 people sit down together in Djibouti to draw a Federal constitution!! These people have no idea what Federalism means. It means the states decide which laws and powers they want to share on a Federal basis, not 30 people in expensive Djibouti Hotel rooms and chewing expensive Herreri khat from Ethiopia and discussing with nice and good educated ladies from Xamar the role of Gender in Somali Society, on a daily basis(what else would they do for the past year in Djibouti) paid by the UN. How could they do this?? :confused:

Originally posted by Thankful: This could have been avoided had the NW Somalia government in Hargeysa allowed people from all regions to run as opposition for the presidency. So if there would be a candidate from the SSC region leading one the main parties, this could have been avoided? Deal!! Its fair point. I can live with that. I want that in writing. We will kick out Faisal Ali Waraabe with his slander, and instead have Xaabsade or any other descedent from the Garaads. a bit of nobility wouldnt hurt those people from the triangle, will the triangle become a square then? Tree(Qudhac), I think Thankfull is talking about the majority of the people who feel not represented. And I think thats a fair point. Because if the majoirity would feel represented, there would be no basis orm argeumentation for those who seek violance. Thankfull, Thank you for enlighting us. These triangle people, do think wrongly sometimes. therefor to make them understand you need to come from a diffrent angle. I try my best. But sometimes logic just doesnt work with them. Its like talking to a tree.

Puntland arrests people for only beeing from the South? Is this your idea of seeking Somali unity? I rather have the Hargeysa Sesseniost anyday then this.

Originally posted by Abtigiis & Tusbax: No, it is my reading of the preferences of some of the leadership. And even those are using arguments which will not be valid if the option to choose is granted. Like, they say if we talk of Somalia, we will be seen as part of Somali irredenta movements in the past. That will not be the case if an internationally brokered refrendum is offered. If and when that happens, A&T and all like-minded pro-Somaliweyn citizens will roam the dusty roads of Somaligalbeed with Timacadde and Yamyam's blood-warming somalinimo poems and will mobilize the masses. I count on the good hearts of the people of somaligalbeed, whose history and identity is all about Somalinimo and Somalia. I do feel to see any logic in this sessecionism agenda of the ONLF, bur probably you either cant understant why we would wanna become an recongnized independant country. But if it helps I like Timecade's poems too and I will recite when I walk on the street from work. And sometimes I even sing Maanta, Maanta, Maants waa maalin weyneh.

Tell us Abti, why does ONLF support sessecionism? And why are you supporting ONLF, which supports sessecionism? Why doesnt ONLF support the blue flag? And why do you support ONLF which is against the blue flag? Are you feeling trapped?

You earlier stated to me in another discussion that my tribes opinion is very relevant and what I think is irrelevant. So you say your leadership is for independance, thus sessecion. And has its own flag. Why not cry against those sessecionist?

Conclusion: A&T and his kind(as he earlier stated, clan is everything) are against the blue flag. Why are you against the blue flag? The one of your kinsmen supporting Ethioipia is against and the one against Ethiopia is against the blue flag. Why?

Well, according to you A&T is thus not from Somalia(as you defined), he is from outside Somalia? Why discuss Somalia and Somaliland issue's and flags, if he is from outside Somalia and thus has an other flag and therefore is not supporting the blue flag in his own region, where another flag is hanging high. I do fail to see the logic and there is non. In you argumentation. You cant make this one straight for him.

Now the final push to Buuhoodle.

Originally posted by Abtigiis & Tusbax: Xaji, Adigaan taariikhda akhriyine, civil war meel kasta wuu ka dhacaa. Somalia way soo laaban doontaa, much stronger. Laakin run hadii laga hadlo, 97% of Somali's like the blue flag. Hal reer unbaa diidan. That is a fact. I know it is not an easy one to take for some. Showqi, Alshabab waa runtaa waa dad liita. Laakiin xitaa kuwaa ayaa madax u ah? Abti, what percentage of people in the Somali regio of Ethiopian support the ONLF?

So why wasnt Djibouti included in the list? And i was missing the O-region in the list? Or dont the occupied regions count? I think the sooner you guys adapt to the reality, the sooner you can liberate yourselves from ideologies from 50 years ago. So I suggest you look for another flag. Puntland understood it, and they made their own little flag, the O-region has its own flag, Al-Shabaab has its own flag. And finally Somaliland has its own flag.

Then you have some Somali-Ethiopians who consider this as their flag.

And I think some french speeking Somali's would mind. They have also their own flag? Or have you given up on the other Somali's terrotories?

Abti, I thaught you supported this flag? And that ONLF was fighting for indepedence, even in their constitution they sey they want to become an independant country. nothing about blue flags in the ONLF archives.

Libaaxa Gaboobay, Do you know something we dont? Then tell us.

Originally posted by Ferguson: Adeer qodhaa iyo xeredaa ma hambalyo( warqad iyo hadal) ayad hadda ka sugaysaa shantaas saancadaale? War wixi odka lagu sheegi jiray waxbaa ka runa. Someone will soon be crying when Somaliland is recongnized. :cool:

That is your opinion Abti. Some have the opinion that you being from Xarshin are in fact an Ethiopian, it doesnt mean you are or you consider yourself to be an Ethiopian.

Your expecting an explosive event on the 26th? Inshallah nothing will happen. Most exciting part of that they will be when Ubax Fahmo will rock the crowd with the old song Maanta, Maanta, Maanta, waa maalin weyne maanta.