Shyhem would it kill you brother/sister to be just a little bit nicer Desktop, jazaakum Allahu Khayran for sharing that with us

Salaams, Buubto pretty much said all i had to say, however, just one quick point in regards to the sister who wore the hijab because she feared death. The sister was correct in her reason for wearing the hijab because she feared her meeting with Allah in the akhira and that she would be held accountable for her actions (i.e not wearing the hijab in this case). This my sister, Kool Kat constitutes as fearing Allah and Taqwa (piety) is the station between hope in the mercy of Allah and fear of his punishment. So really, to fear death in the recognition you will meet Allah is to do something for Allah. I hope that makes sense As for enouraging sisters to remove the hijab because of her actions, i disagree with that, we should at all times keep in mind "amar bin macruuf wa nahya canil munkar" (order good and forbid evil). HOWEVER, i think its best if these sisters that disrespect the hijab began to take more responsibility. What they don't realise is that they represent Islam not just themselves. I wish they'd respect the hijab and not treat it as a piece of material you can buy, as one woman once said. Haniif, Two thumbs up brother.

Read once more- "Tasawuf just means purification, but as will all actions it must be in accordance with the Quran and Sunnah to be accepted by Allah." Does that sound like denial to you? :rolleyes: I did not deny Tasawuf, just the definition given to it by the sufis. And if you don't think fighting a people because of their innovations to our complete religion is to denounce their practise, Sufism, then you obviously have difficulty in understanding what it means to denounce. Also, I don't believe Shaykh Abdul-Qadir Jaylani was a Sufi, i believe he was a Muslim, a shaykh i respect and love. Just because some innovaters attribute their acts to him doesn't make him as part of them. It seems some us are trying to do the same with Shykh-ul-islam ibn Taymiyyah. Anyway, on the Day of Judgement Allah will resolve all conflicts, all disagreements and set the right. So on that day brother konweyn since you obviously think your so high and mighty, you debate the issue with Imam Muhammed ibn Abdulwahab and we will see who was confused. Also while your at it, why don't you confirm weather or not ibn Taymiyah was in agreement with sufism. Quite arguing with us all, if your so sure, then let it be, frankly i don't see this as beneficial as brother Taqwa said. Inshallah i have done my best to defend the scholars of Islam and once again warn you from this evil act. w/salaam wr wb

Asalaamu Calaykum Wr Wb Farah, No suprise there brother, I didn't expect for it to make any sense to anyone other than myself However, if we define virtue as general goodness, then i believe it is a combination of the two, it is a devine attribute and is taught also. Like the Fitrah we are all born with, the belief of Allah, we are all born with virtue, but this virtue is affected by our environment. Therefore, depending on our environment, we can continue and improve on this innate virtue (such as our continual belief in Allah, although our parents could of have made us into christians or jews by their teachings)or loose it.

"Regarding your second comment: the rasuul scws told you what will come to pass but didnt ask you to create or look for divisions. Secondly, its the contention of ahl sunna that wahhabis fail to understand the real message of ALLAAH and his rasuul scws and that they have deviated from the true spirit of islam." You really should stop contradicting yourself, you speak about not looking for divisions yet its so obvious your doing it. Have you ever come across any person that refers to themselves as a Wahabi? Of course you have never, so why is it you insist on using the term? I advise you to stop slandering the shaykh, you are nothing but a measly person as compared to him and so should keep your tongue away from this noble soul. On the day of judgement, Allah will resolve all conflicts and all issues. Inshallah on that day when (unless of course you change your ways) you stand in front of Allah, resolve your problems with the shaykh then. Till then do us the curtesy of keeping it to yourself.

It is well known that Shaykul-Islam ibn Taymiyyah refuted Sufism and so for anyone to attribute sufism to him is to not only lie and backbite him but rather slander him for the blessed prophet s.a.w said backbiting was to say of someone something which is true but he/she dislikes and to slander someone is to attribute something to them which is completely false and they disllike. Anyone who knows anything about history would know that the Shaykh spent most of his life fighting against the bidcas of the Sufis. Ibn Taymiyah ® mentions in Al-Fataawaa (11/7) from Muhammad ibn Seereen (a famous Tabi'ee who died in 110H) that it reached him that a certain people had taken to wearing woollen clothes in order to resemble 'Isa ibn Maryam (AS), so he said: 'There are a people (Sufis) who have chosen and preferred the wearing of woollen clothes, claiming that they want to resemble Al-Maseeh ibn Maryam (AS). But the way of our Prophet (SAAW) is more beloved to us, and the Prophet (SAAW) used to wear cotton and other garments. I believe from this it is clear the Shaykh was in conflict with the sufis because of their many bidcas including the continuous wearing of wool (believing its a religious duty). Speaking of the false miracles claimed by many Sufi leaders, Ibn Taymiyah said: "It may also be done with the help of their devils as they are a people who are as closely attended by devils as they are by their own brothers... These people who experience these satanic happenings are under a great delusion, in their foolishness they are deprived of all blessings, they only increase that which is feared, they devour the wealth of the people in futile acts, they do not order the good, nor do they forbid evil, and they do not fight Jihaad in Allah's Cause." [Al-Fataawaa]. Brother Mujahid, do not be fooled akhi, this is either a false accusation to the shaykh (there are many of those of the internet) or it is taken out of context. Allah knows best, but believe you me the shaykh was not very impressed with sufism. As for tasawuf, yes it exists in Islam but not as defined by the sufis. Tasawuf just means purification, but as will all actions it must be in accordance with the Quran and Sunnah to be accepted by Allah. Islam requires not only intention (for i know many who follow sufism have good intentions)but also correct following of our blessed prophet. Our religion was completed as told to us by Allah, we DO NOT need Shaykhs to "continue the revelation", it was completed already.

Can virtue be taught or mastered? Or is it divine? Virtue: Moral excellence. I started off by asking myself are there different forms of virtue? Of course i came to the conclusion YES! (Patience is a virtue, truthfulness is a virtue), but then are there different levels of that particular virtue? Can one have some or a little bit of virtue? By using the above definition of virtue, i came to the conclusion that a particular virtue (eg. patience) does not have different levels for the reason that excellence is one level, it is the top, the peak, the best of the best and so is one level. I then asked myself is virtue divine/ innate? NO! was my conclusion for the reason that once again going back to our definition of virtue (moral excellence), there is no deficiency in a person with that virtue in regards to that virtue (if that makes sense), for "excellence" means to be perfect and since perfection is only with Allah this point that virtue is divine is incorrect and with it throws out the point of virtue been mastered for once again there is a claim of perfection. However, yes we are all born with some of that particular characteristic (some patience or a lot of patience), but since it has not reached the stage of "moral excellence" (we can never reach it), then it is not a virtue. We do not have the virtue of patience. We do not (by the above definition) have virtue (in all its types). I then went on to think of the possibility of virtue been taught. But of course found faults in that. So yes more patience can be taught, but never to the level of it been a virtue, for virtue as defined above is to claim perfection and we are not perfect. The prophet s.a.w taught for example his companions to have more patience, but that doesn’t mean they were patient at all times (even being patient 99.99% of the time doesn’t make one reach virtue), they were not perfect. So all in all i found my problem was the issue of the definition "moral excellence" in particular the excellence part contradicts the Islamic principle of only Allah been perfect. We all have defaults. Maybe if it had another definition i could make up my mind

Definately Abdirahman Sudais (I am in love with his voice, Mashallah). But Shuraim also has a beautiful voice. Philosophy or Political science? Why?

Love. Intelligence or Fame.

"After all, the shais have inherited their information from the imaams of the ahlul bayt who not only had this knowledge but also carried the promise of the mahdi in their line" For once would you please get real! Are you actually claiming that what the shia believe is correct and is that believed by Ali, hassan and hussain because these are some of their imams? The Shia have distorted Islam, some of the shia are in the same boat as the jews and christians. Don't insult the ahlul bayt, give them more credit would you. It's like associating prophet ciisa with the christians of today, or Muusa with the jews of today. "It creates division where there is none" "My Ummah will split into 73 sects, all of whom will be in the Hell Fire except one (the Saved Sect, known in Arabic as the Firqatun-Naajeyah). Upon being asked which that Saved Sect was, he (SAWS) replied, 'The one that I and my companions are on'". Rasuallah told us there would be division regardless and our alliance should be with the saved sect as mentioned above. I believe in unity of belief, not unity just for the purpose of unity. If that was the case, then go unite with the jews, christians, budhists, hindus...We are all part of the human family after all, are we not? Unity requires a compromise of beliefs, because sooner or later conflicts will arise, conflicts in regards to the fundamentals of belief (not the fiqh issues, although we should never view anything in Islam as small). If your not willing to compromise your beliefs then there can be no unity, i will not ever take the imams of the shia to be devine (no one other then Allah is devine), so i have no unity with them period. "Give it up bro!!! you are way out of your league." It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah b. Mas'ud that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) observed: None shall enter the Fire (of Hell) who has in his heart the weight of a mustard seed of Iman and none shall enter Paradise who has in his heart the weight of a mustard seed of pride. READ, UNDERSTAND, PONDER, AND REFLECT!!

Tamina: Sister, yes the shi’a are a deviated group, the list is immense, but allow me to just mention a few: - They curse the prophet’s companions, all except Ali and his descendants. - They refer to Caisha, our mother as a prostitute. - They believe that their Imams are divine and some take them as gods. Allow me to remind you of a hadith of our blessed prophet: One time, A Christian man entered the mosque while the messenger of Allah (pbuh) was reciting from the Qur'aan: They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their priests to be their lords besides Allâh (Qur'aan 9:31) So he said: "We did not worship our priests." The Messenger said: "Yes, you do. Don't they make the Halal (allowed matters) Haram (disallowed matters) and the Haram Halal, then you follow them?" He answered yes. The Messenger said: "That is worshiping them." This is exactly what the shi’a do with their Imams, whatever the Imam tells them, then they take and whatever he forbids them from, they leave. For example, do you know the shi’a practice temporary marriages because their imams allow them to when the prophet s.a.w forbade such a practice? Now you tell me sister, when you intentionally obey a human over Allah (for to disobey the prophet is to disobey Allah also), then how worthy is what you state? Sister, like i said the list is very long, however in regards to the issue of the Mahdi, the shi’a believe that the Mahdi will have the kunya abul Qasim when we know that for anyone other than the prophet to have such a kunya is not possible? As for the issue of the Mahdi currently residing in a tunnel, this is a fundamental belief of the shi’a (the twelve’s, which make up the majority), Ahlus-sunnah believes as the article states that the Mahdi will be born to an ordinary family and will live an ordinary life until the age of forty which he will then be inspired in one night. Allah will teach him all he needs to know. So having said that, then you tell me sister, is it the same mahdi? HOWEVER, i do not believe all shia are the same, in all i wrote i was speaking generally and referring to the beliefs of the general.

Guilty of Faith Muslims in America accused and sentenced for practicing Islam By Tavis Adibudeen Wednesday, July 10, 2002 Victory News ( http://www.victorynews.net ) Imagine waking up in the middle of the night to the sound of armed men entering your house. You rush to your children to ensure that they are safe and prepare yourself for the worst. Then, you are suddenly seized and subdued by people in dark clothing and whisked away in an unmarked vehicle while your wife and children are left at home crying and terrified for your safety. If this sounds like something out of a 007 movie, think again. Over a thousand Muslims in America have been arrested in similar fashion by the FBI, INS, and other governmental organizations with no explanation and without due process. According to the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), over 1,000 Muslims have been “detained” in American jails since September 11th. Most of them are still in custody, and very few of them have been charged with any crimes or given any chance to seek legal defense. Using terrorism laws and the US Patriot Act, the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) have launched a campaign against law-abiding Muslims living in the US with complete disregard for their civil liberties and basic human rights. While these injustices of the state have now reached alarming levels, the government has actually been involved in such activities for several years. In 1997, Palestinian Professor Dr. Mazen al-Najjar was arrested and subsequently imprisoned in a Florida jail for 3 years by the INS under “Secret Evidence.” The secret evidence laws, signed under the Clinton Administration, allow the government to imprison individuals who are suspected of being “threats to national security” on the basis of evidence that is not released to the public or even to lawyers involved in the cases. As a result, the accused have no way of defending themselves against the charges. After three years, al-Najjar was finally released after battling in court and after receiving the support of numerous human rights and religious organizations. Despite this, the court declined to overturn a ruling that he should be deported to the U.A.E., and al-Najjar was again arrested pending his deportation. On May 14, 2002, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) reported, “The government acknowledged at the time that Al Najjar had nothing to do with the events of September 11, but in a press release issued on the day of his arrest the Department of Justice said that his detention demonstrated its "commitment to address terrorism." Countless others have been held in United States prisons on the basis of “secret evidence” which neither they nor their lawyers have ever been allowed to see. The tragic events of September 11th have only given government agencies more excuses to detain Muslims without trial. Since September 11th only one detainee has been charged with any crime. Human Rights Watch (HRW), in a letter to Attorney General Ashcroft states, “The danger to the United States posed by terrorist activities should not be used as a justification to expand these powers in ways that undermine the rights to liberty and due process possessed by citizens and non-citizens alike.” HRW also mentioned that the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), in Article 9, clearly states that everyone “has the right to liberty and security of person. No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest or detention.” The United States is a party to ICCPR and agreed to adhere to its legislation. Despite international consensus opposed to it, the United States has taken measures to give the INS and FBI sweeping authority to detain, question, and deport individuals deemed to support “terrorist activities.” Many of these mandates and laws that have been passed are conveniently vague almost to the extent that anyone can be detained without explanation. The INS, for example, is allowed to detain people indefinitely for “questioning” as of an emergency regulation established immediately after September 11th (see 66 Fed. Reg. 48,334, September 20, 2001). Perhaps the most precarious of these “anti-terrorism” legislations is the US Patriot Act. It is described in its text as, “Uniting and strengthening America by providing appropriate tools required to intercept and obstruct terrorism.” While its first section begins with denouncing discrimination against Arabs, South Asians and Muslims (Section 102(a)1), it later gives the President and government agencies powers to spy on, arrest, deport, and seize assets of those individuals and organizations suspected of “terrorism.” The act never gives a clear definition of terrorism or terrorists. It does, however, give the President the power to “confiscate any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States of any foreign person, foreign organization, or foreign country that he determines has planned, authorized, aided, or engaged in such hostilities or attacks against the United States…” The result of this US Patriot Act has been the closing and seizure of assets of several prominent Muslim charitable organizations, namely Al-Barakaat, Holy Land Foundation, Benevolence International Foundation, and Global Relief Foundation. All of these organizations have denied the charges against them and have filed lawsuits against the government to have their assets unfrozen due to the lack of evidence to support its claims. The Global Relief Foundation, accused of funding terrorism, has recently had their numerous appeals to courts turned down by judges who are again using “Secret Evidence” to keep the organization’s assets frozen. In addition to this, the FBI arrested their public relations chair, Rabih Haddad and has kept him in custody since December 14th without bail, without charges, and without any evidence. The United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) is currently attempting to legitimize Al Barakaat for fear that closure of the organization, Somalia’s largest money transfer system, “may cause a new humanitarian crisis in the war-ravaged country.” The US shut down the organization after suspecting that it had ties with Osama Bin Laden. The US government has stated that it has proof of these accusations, but no evidence has thus far been released. Among the newest detainees since September 11th is Abdullah al-Mujahir (formerly Jose Padilla) who has been labeled by the American media as “The Dirty Bomber.” Al-Muhajir was accused of plotting with terrorists in Pakistan to return to the US and detonate a “dirty bomb.” While no evidence was presented by US officials to give credit to their case, al-Muhajir was nonetheless designated as an “enemy combatant” and thrown into a military jail. Human Rights Watch became concerned by the government’s total disregard for al-Muhajir’s rights as a citizen who should at least be given a fair trial to determine his innocence or guilt. Kenneth Roth, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch, contends, “There should be a strong presumption that anyone arrested in the US, far from any battlefield, be granted the full legal protections of the criminal justice system- including the right to counsel and not to be held without charges. Simply accusing someone of working with al-Qaeda does not justify throwing him into a navy brig.” “Being an accused terrorist,” Roth said, “is not synonymous with being an enemy combatant. Otherwise, the President could detain and hold anyone without charges simply by labeling him a member of al-Qaeda.” As of date, Human Rights Watch has been denied access to the holding cells in their attempt to determine the quality of treatment and living conditions of the approximately 1,000 detainees since September 11th. It is still unclear as to how long they will continue to rot in jail cells without justice (either of innocence or guilt). And in the case of al-Muhajir, President Bush has indicated that the accused “Dirty Bomber” will remain in the military jail for the “duration of the war on terrorism,” a war that has already been called a war with “no boundaries” and thus no limitations. Perhaps the most blatant of all US disregard for human rights was made apparent when the international community, on the verge of finalizing an International Criminal Court that would be capable charging individuals for war crimes, asked the United States to agree on the provisions. The United States had signed and agreed to be a party in the criminal court under the Clinton administration, but then attempted to “withdrawal” under the Bush administration. Their main reason for desiring exemption from the criminal court was that “peacekeepers” from the US, in various locations such as Bosnia, could in fact be charged for war crimes. In a recent interview, Secretary of State Colin Powell told reporters that the United States did not want US soldiers and officials to be charged in such a court. It is not a direct confession of guilt, but sometimes what is not said is equally revealing. Time will tell, and the truth will eventually be told. And say: “Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish." (Qur’an 17:81)

YACQUUB May Allah reward you brother. You see what our fellow brother Kowneyn fails to understand is the actual meaning of the hadith. He is also not willing to understand, so until then we should leave the matter in the hands of Allah for Sufis suffer from a disease they've created. This disease as a side effect includes the abnormal and uncalled for hatred of one of the greatest scholars of Islam, Shaykh Muhammed ibn AbdulWahab. I bet our brother Kowneyn hasn't even read Kitaab-ut-tawheed from the Shaykh let alone his other books. Even if he has, he could never find any faults in it for it is all based on the Quran and Sunnah.

~ Character of a Muslimah - NO GOSSIP - guards her tongue ~ The alert Muslim woman does not allow herself to be drawn into gossip or to attend gatherings where gossip takes place. She restrains her tongue and refrains from gossiping in general, and avoids backbiting about her friends and sisters in particular. She regards it as her duty to prevent gatherings from sinking to the level of cheap gossip, because gossip is clearly haram according to the words of the Qur'an: ( . . . Nor speak ill of each other behind their back. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Nay, you would abhor it. But fear Allah, for Allah is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.) (Qur'an 49:12) The Muslim woman always refrains from indulging in any talk that could lead to gossip. From her understanding of Islam, she knows that it is the tongue that may lead its owner to Hell, as stated in the hadith in which the Prophet (PBUH) warned Mu`adh ibn Jabal. He took hold of his tongue and said, "Restrain this." Mu`adh said, "O Messenger of Allah, will we be held responsible for what we say?" The Prophet (PBUH) said: "May your mother be bereft of you! Is there anything that causes people to be thrown into Hell on their faces (or he said: on their noses) but the harvest of their tongues?" (A sahih hasan hadith narrated by Ibn Majah, 2/1315, Kitab al-fitan.) Gossip is an evil characteristic, which does not befit the Muslim woman who has been guided by Islam. Such a woman refuses to be two-faced, hypocritical or fickle, gossiping about her friends and sisters in their absence, then when she meets them, she smiles warmly and makes a display of friendship. She knows that such fickleness is haram according to Islam, which is based on straightforwardness, honesty and frankness. Such good qualities come naturally to believing men and women, for Islam has made them despise inconsistency, fickleness and hypocrisy. These characteristics are regarded as so loathsome by Islam that the one who possesses them is described as being two-faced, and those who are two-faced, men and women alike, are among the worst of people in the sight of Allah (SWT), as the Prophet (PBUH) said: "You will find among the worst people in the sight of Allah (SWT) on the Day of Judgement, the one who is two-faced, who approaches some people in one way and some in another." (Fath al-Bari, 10/474, Kitab al-adab, bab ma qila fi dhi'l-wajhayn; Sahih Muslim, 16/157, Kitab al-birr wa'l-silah wa'l-adab, bab dhamm dhi'l-wajhayn.) The true Muslim woman is straightforward and consistent, never two-faced. She is always bright and cheerful, and treats all people in the same, noble, manner. She never forgets that the woman who is two-faced is a hypocrite: Islam and hypocrisy do not go together, and the woman who is a hypocrite will be in the lowest level of Hell. Taken from: The IDEAL MUSLIMAH The True Islamic Personality of the Muslim Woman as Defined in the Qur'an and Sunnah Dr. Muhammad Ali Al-Hashimi Translated by Nasiruddin Al-Khattab Published by International Islamic Publishing House

Asalaamu Calaykum Wr Wb, Brothers and Sisters think about these words spoken by the one of the greatest of the sahaba. _________________________________________________ IBN 'ABBAS ON SIN Abdullaah Ibn Abbas (radiallahu anhu), "You who commit a sin, do not feel secure about the results, for what goes along with the sin is more serious than the sin itself. Your lack of shame before the angels, who witness you when you commit the sin, is more serious than the sin itself. Your laughter when you sin, as you forget the punishment of Allah is more serious than the sin itself. Your delight if you get a chance to sin, is more serious than the sin itself. Even your disappointment, if you miss a chance to sin is more serious than the sin itself." _________________________________________________ But remember fellow brethren the words of our blessed prophet: All of the sons of Adam are sinners and the best among them are those that repent. Alaahuma Inaka cafuwun Tuxibbul cafwa facfu canaa

Asalaamu Calaykum Wr Wb, Mujahid you've just asked the million-dollar question. It is a real shame that the situations is so, but remember the blessed prophet Muhammed (S.A.W) said Islam began as something strange and would return as something strange. Sadaqa Rasuallah, you see brother people especially the young view Islam as something strange to them. They believe in it, but don't discuss it. Athena and Xamdiya, sisters your reasons for not posting are very admirable for the salaf-us-saalahiin (rightly guided predecessors) never spoke about anything in Islam which they had no knowledge of. But with this is also a great lesson for us all, maybe it’s about time we learnt more about religion, maybe then we could contribute more to such discussions. Even if we can't add anything, maybe we can question what we do not know in the hope we would get an answer.

Great sites include: www.as-sahwah.com My favourite site by far. www.minhajalmuslim.com www.troid.org, although i don't agree with some of their ways such as exposing people they feel to be in the wrong for whatever reason, i like their audio selection. www.khalidmosque.com www.boqolsoon.com www.salafipublications.com

I thought i told you to save it. Look kid, I called you filthy not because of your belief (a bit slow are we?) but rather you lack morals and respect for the rights of other human beings. I wouldn't dare to call a person filthy simply because of their belief, that is between them and God. I have morals and respect for others. Anyway We Muslims rest our case. You've just proven yourself to be the kafir you seem to hide, but am glad you finally admit it here. Case closed. May Allah guide you or break your back (how irritated are you now? ) ,lol.

Sister Tamina, I have no problem with people of different faiths co-existing in the same area, but what i do have a problem with is when there is Tyranny, weather the aggressors are Jews, Muslims, Christians or what have you. I advice you to read the stories of our Salaf-us-salahiin (rightly guided predecessors) and great Muslim men such as SALAH-AL-DIIN AL-AYUBI. I believe the way they dealt with the problem was the correct way and Allah knows best.

Looking at these forums I've always wondered, do my brothers and sisters realise dating is HARAM. Everyone seems to discuss it like its acceptable. Of course Islam allows for us to get to know a person before marriage, you can't exactly marry a stranger now can you? Maybe we should just learn the ways Islam has sanctioned for this to happen.

Brother Nurudin, i'm going to have to disagree with you on that point. Ethiopia could be an Islamic State if the majority population are Muslims and the leaders are Muslims, but they don't necessarily have to rule by the Shari'ah (and i realise that is a sin in itself). For example, before our destruction, our homeland was considered an Islamic State because the people were Muslims and so was our leader, however you and I both know it wasn't governed by the laws of the Shari'ah (although that was what was written in the constitution). So, IF a Muslim leader eventually rules Ethiopia but the Somalis still wish to be part of Somalia, then that should be their choice. Islam gives the people the choice akhi and should they choose to be in the borders of one Islamic state as opposed to another, then you cannot classify that as Nationalism. Nationalism is to believe that one person is better than another based simply on their birth. I was not arguing that point. And anyway, i do believe that that land was originally the land of the Somalis and was invaded by Ethiopia when it was still a Christian populated land.

Asalaamu Calaykum Wr Wb, Indhadeeq, jazaakum Allahu Khayran sister . I personally thought it was a great speech. Bulo: Sister I understand your view but at the same time we must realise that the way the brother posed his speech was a great wisdom in itself. In the Quran Allah says: “Invite all to the way of Allah with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways which are best” So you see sister, for the brother to of have defined the word Jihad in a way different to that as defined by the Western media and the enemies of Allah day in day out was a way of inviting the people to look into the true Islam with great wisdom and beautiful preaching. Had the brother fell right into the trap of the media and stated that it is the responsibility of all Muslims to go and fight in physical jihad, the people would of have run away from the religion. A Muslims should never allow themselves to be the reason for people to run from Islam. You might say but it’s the truth and yes I agree with you, the jihad of the Quran is as you mentioned, but to leave out information at a particular moment isn’t necessarily lying. You’re just being wise. The blessed prophet was once preaching to a group of non-believers, and present at the gathering were some Muslims. One of the Muslim men kept on asking the prophet a question (im not sure what it was exactly, but the question had it been answered would of have made the non-Muslims run from the religion rather than accept it. Run because they were not at a stage to understand the concept, not because Islam has that must be hidden). The prophet kept ignoring the sahabi until the disbelievers left and then answered him. I think there is a great lesson for us all from this. Wa alaykum salaam

Brothers and sisters, namely Taqwa & Ameenah, don't bother with this guy X-playa. I was going to say earlier on he is nothing but a kafir but i thought i'd let him expose himself as he always does. I think its obvious now what he is, a disbeliever, and a filthy one at that. He has no respect for our blessed prophet or this great religion of ours, he seems to be suffering from Arabphobia. May Allah guide him or break his back. X-Playa, save it.

The whole world belongs to Allah and so should be ruled by those who worhip Allah in the correct manner.Having set that criteria, we Muslims should rule Jerusalem. The scholars of Islam have said that all Muslims should hold this opinion and work towards the return of Masjid Al-Aqsa to the true slaves of Allah. May Allah return Masjid Al-Aqsa to the Muslims.

For all those sisters who said they would let their husbands marry a second wife without conditions, GET REAL. C'mon now, any woman who cares for her husband wouldn't want him to marry a second wife. Now don't get me wrong i know Islam permits it, but its one thing to accept it and its another to encourage it (such as choosing a wife for him). Believe me once you all marry, i can bet all the money in the world (not that betting is allowed ) that you won't hold the same opinion. As for the sister who suggested she would prefer to be married along with her best friend, what are you thinking sister? :eek: That will be a disaster. GIRLS, PUT IT IN YOUR MARRIAGE CONTRACTS THAT YOUR HUSBAND MAY NOT MARRY A SECOND WIFE WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION. IT IS ISLAMICALLY ALLOWED AND HE MUST ABIDE BY IT,THE CONTRACT IS VOID, AND YOU CAN GET A DIVORCE, .