Even more surprisingly, folks are using tribal names like it's accepted. Have things changed whilst i was gone? This could be dangerous; little by little it could lead to decadence- already tribalism is rampant, allowing the usage of actual qabiil names will only exacerbate the tribalism and make it like all the other websites.

Inaa Lilaahi wa inaa ilayhi raajicuun. May Allah have mercy upon him and accept him as amongst the shuhadaa'.

Damn you For a moment there, you raised my hopes. Here i was thinking that the real president had arrived with no commotion. Sadly we still wait.

a lame weak A Qasim at a time when he just was Puntland president Last I remember PL is part of Somalia, hence when Cabdiqaasim was president and Galayr the prime minister they should of have received the utmost support from folks such as CY, but we all know that this was not the case. We could only hope that C/qaasim would prove to be the better man and so far he seems to be- at least he declares his support- CY couldn’t even declare that. On the other hand while A qasim was Arta leader made accusation against A yey going as far as being Kuffar(Gaal), Wrong, CY like Caydiid Jr. committed acts of kufr (i.e. to support the gaalo in their efforts against Muslims). There is a marked difference between actions of kufr anf kufr itself for one takes a person out of Islam (kufr) whilst the other places such a person in danger. Don’t forget that it was these two men (CY and Caydiid Jr) who were crying day and night to the gaalo post 9/11 that Somalia needed to be saved from the “terroristsâ€. So if C/qaasim or anyone else for that matter commented on this, then they are right. A qasim, he stated he was qabilistic and hates D, so was this an insult to other people, He is? He did? When and where? If you can prove this, walaahi I will be the first to denounce such disgusting qabiilist thinking, but until then we believe in innocence. And um, do you know which tribe c/qaasims mother hails from ? stop posting every little filthy propaganda you see on the net. Wonderful advice , but dare I say it, it needs to be directed more at the pro-CY camp. Every bloody chance they get they try to tarnish their “enemiesâ€. Qorshel, brother whether or not we like it, this man is our president, but let’s not paint this angelic picture of him. History is a testimony to his thinking/actions and I hope that Allah protects our people and country from his evils. My main reservation with this man is only but one, his absolute clear hatred for the practicing Muslims- I suppose it is for this reason that his first cousin in Nairobi was paying money so that he wouldn’t be elected for the presidency-that says it all. what is sad is that we are seeing two years worth of hopefullness and reconciliation going down the drain.. The most depressing thought of all . HOWEVER, I believe these two beels will and should support this endeavor to bring back the state, because to retaliate (mind you in the political sense) is to risk leaving the situation in status-quo. Very true!

Rokko and Zu, You two are both xaasidiin to the core, not everyone understands the Aussie lingo. Leave the sister alone you flamin’ galahs :mad:

You fervently opposed Abdiqasim because he wasn't of your clan, and now you zealously support Abdulahi because he is of your clan. Spot on me thinks! The true Somalis are those who have supported both efforts.

Of course not! Without limits, chaos would overtake. We would all be commiting injustice against one another.

Am I blamed simply because I stand for my culture? Yes you are, because you are going against that which has been sanctiones by the One you claim to need. Whether you call it Harmful or not, I am willing to practice whatever my culture stands for, including that of circumcision and so forth. I am even pushing that particular practice just to preserve the circumcision within our beautiful culture. My future children will be subjected to this all-time-good culture. I don't know what will the future reaction be of my future wife. the future will tell, insha allah. I would of have thought that you were joking, until you said inshallah. This is just disgusting walaahi. I hope for your sake, your akhira that you leave behind this jaahilnimo. On the other hand I also hope that you were joking (even that is disturbing, I cant see how anyone could take this subject lightly). To say that this is dissappointing, especialluy coming from you brother, would be an understatement. I didn't take you for one who would choose culture (man made concept) over that which is sanctioned by the Alimighty Allah, the Sunnah of Rasuallah. At the very least you should retract these uterly revolting comments (it almost made me physically sick, especially after viewing the pics).

To the rest of you girls, if pple decide to go on ahead and celebrate with or without having any knowledge about V-day or how it was originated, then its upto them to answer to allah come judgement day. Let the muslim pple make the choices for themselves, without any preaching from know it all folks. To the poster, if you are irritated by all the fuss that comes with v-day, then turn a blind eye. No one is holding a gun over your head and demanding that you cheer up about v-day Rasuallah s.c.w said that whenever you see an evil, change it with your hand, if you are unable to do this, then change it with your tongue and if you are unable to do that at least hate it in your heart and this is the lowest level of iman (paraphrased). It is the responsibility of every Muslim to do whatever they can against evil, if speaking out against it is the way, then the sister is correct .

I could be as i am the son of what many in here call Al Ittihad Join the club , only that I am a daughter of one, and not an extremist, rather a Muslim who hopefully holds firm to the rope of Allah. Extremism is anti-Islam. 1-it's very rare these days to see two Somali couple praying 5 times day. we simply abandoned our religion which we know is a way of life. Really, where? Most Somalis I know pray 5 times a day. Sisters stop demanding lavish weddings please What makes you think it’s always the sisters-I’ve seen a few brothers wanting the whole shebang . Anyway JZK to all those who contributed, informative indeed.

1. Xabiibul-Allah Muxammad s.c.w. 2. Prophet Ibraahim. 3. Prophet Yusuf.

Oh how I love Brother Maalik. Ever since I was a young girl I’ve always had a soft spot in my heart for him, if for anything his strength-that is what you call a Muslim warrior (how I detest Muslim apologists) Hip-Hop, Rap If Brother Maalik were alive today, I don’t think that he would approve of this, at least it would be best that people remembered his struggle in ways approves by the Sunnah . For some strange reasons, i always prefered Malcom X over martin Luther. Of course, one was a believer the other a gaal. One a true soldier, the other apologetic even when concerning his rights. To even compare these two men is just plain wrong-one is by far greater. Malcolm X on Martin Luther King: "He got the peace prize, we got the problem.... If I'm following a general, and he's leading me into a battle, and the enemy tends to give him rewards, or awards, I get suspicious of him. Especially if he gets a peace award before the war is over." "I'll say nothing against him. At one time the whites in the United States called him a racialist, and extremist, and a Communist. Then the Black Muslims came along and the whites thanked the Lord for Martin Luther King." "I want Dr. King to know that I didn't come to Selma to make his job difficult. I really did come thinking I could make it easier. If the white people realize what the alternative is, perhaps they will be more willing to hear Dr. King." Three quotes I love: "I know that societies often have killed the people who have helped to change those societies. And if I can die having brought any light, having exposed any meaningful truth that will help to destroy the racist cancer that is malignant in the body of America -- then, all of the credit is due to Allah. Only the mistakes have been mine." "I am not a racist in any form whatever. I don't believe in any form of racism. I don't believe in any form of discrimination or segregation. I believe in Islam." "When I'm traveling around the country, I use my real Muslim name, Malik Shabazz. I make my hotel reservations under that name, and I always see the same thing I've just been telling you. I come to the desk and always see that 'here-comes-a-Negro' look. It's kind of a reserved, coldly tolerant cordiality. But when I say 'Malik Shabazz,' their whole attitude changes: they snap to respect. They think I'm an African. People say what's in a name? There's a whole lot in a name. The American black man is seeing the African respected as a human being. The African gets respect because he has an identity and cultural roots. But most of all because the African owns some land. For these reasons he has his human rights recognized, and that makes his civil rights automatic."- and we still have Muslims who are ashamed of their Muslim names and identity.

^Sorry , i should of have said on the assumption that...

May Allah guide her. I actually feel sorry for her, when the white men are done with her they will throw her out like chewed up meat.

Why compare Mogadishu to Galkacyo? And, even more importantly, how does this apply to the topic at hand? Allow me to remind you of what you said, which is the reason why I made the comparison. The stark difference between northern Galgacyo (Puntland) and southern Galkacyo (USC/SNA) should remind you of the old, divided Berlin: in West Berlin, Here you were trying to belittle one group of Somalis by stating that a city which two tribes share (i.e.Gaalkacyo), is built on one side and not the other (which I agree-honesty goes a long way ). And I simply responded, because the other (whose side is not built) is busy building Mogadishu and making a life for themselves there. Nothing wrong with that is there ? I don't know why you quoted me when that part of my piece was directed at JUMATATU Then direct your comments at Jumatatu and not try to belittle a whole qabiil. Just because one person rubs you the wrong way, it does not mean that you have to be disrespectful and insult a whole qabiil-, which is what you did by that comment, especially in the way that it was done. I'll take the Kaneeco over death or being wounded any day. Yes I agree, if it makes you feel any better . You are so uptight, so what if Gaalkacyo is kaneeco infested, does this decrease the status of the place? If someone said that to me, especially in the way i said it, heck it wouldn't bother me in the least bit . We all know what Mogadishu is today, the reports are many and the propaganda lies of certain groups is becoming more and more obvious by the day. I don’t know what certain people get out of trying to belittle Mogadishu or any other part of the country for that matter-it only highlights their insecurities. If you have success then great, but leave others alone. Basically if people cannot contribute something positive, then it’s best that they keep quiet. Anyway brother, have a nice day and always wish good for your brothers and sisters whoever they maybe or whatever qabiil that Allah chose for them to be . Rahima sis what gives me such hope, is the fact that there has not been any war between these clans since 1993. Because they have not meddled with one another. These two tribes brother (lets not kid ourselves ) are probably the most thickheaded and arrogant of all Somalis (generally speaking of course, I think it must be the culture over there). With that being the case, I can’t see them mixing happily. The situation will always be on the verge of chaos and who can live with that? It's best that they leave each other alone if it means that success will be gained in this way. As much as I would love for them to be able to live in peace happily and integrate (in the interests of not just you and I , but many people from there), I cannot see that happening until both loose the arrogance. Maybe, just maybe then will they be able to live together in harmony- but i'm not holding my breath :cool:

So the southern warlord running the city and controlling it is a popular myth! And I must’ve lost in touch with the reality! What is a popular myth is the thinking they have a great deal of power. What I am speaking of is the power that they have over the people (even by land they don’t control much); if anything the courts have more power over the people and land. God forbid, if war were to break out in Mogadishu today, I doubt that many would fight for these warlords-the people are just tired and many have learnt that these warlords are their enemies. Those who support the warlords are very few. Easy there sxb I used to think reer Hargeisa have an army of their own. You said it's like 50K strong and will capture Puntland in no time. I was for one scared and remember I fled from my fav place of SOL forum: politics section. The much awaited clash came and you were proven wrong. That's when I changed my mind about the Hargiesa's mighty army From that day on I decided to call them militia. On the other hand, I don't care if you call PL army militia or not. It just doesn't matter. What I say on these boards cannot change the reality on the ground. What it can do, however, is make you holler Oh Bashi you are cruel, just cruel I tell ya. Am I allowed to laugh though? It was amusing, make you holler ku lahaa. But we await and see, some will take it so serious like you had a poke at their mothers .

But a point of advice sis when in Rome do as the Romans do. So whilst in Rome, if all the Romans were to strip down to their birthday suits, would you do the same? The point is brother; we have principles and standards, no need to compromise them especially for something so meaningless such as a forum Kaneeco kulahaa, ma wax kala weyseen ad ku caysaan magaaladda. No i can think of many others , but i won't for fear that some may take it personal. But, of all the points that you could possibly respond to, did you have to take a light-hearted poke as a personal :confused: ? I'm sure that no one would be offended if i was to say that Mogadishu is rubbish-infested (and please let's not play the nationalistic card now ). Boys like I’ve said before, sensitivity of minor issues if anything is women’s ground-get over it , no need to take it serious and i can say all i want about Gaalkacyo for I am a landowner there . Mind you, everyone who has been there has said the same thing, so no need to deny folks . And saying that it is kaneeco-infested does not necessarily translate to underdevelopment. Duke, Honestly brother you sure are a dreamer. I doubt such a union will happen in our lifetime. These people are so far divided that such a union is next to impossible. In my opinion, I think that this is a blessing; the Somali problem will only worsen once they turn on each other and they will-these are the two tribes who when we had a government thrived on tribalism and mind you the rest of the country barely knew of tribe. Reconciliation has been tried so many times before, it has not worked. So each man to his own. Whilst unity of not just these two tribes but the whole of Somalia would be nice, I can’t see that happening.

I have stopped trusting any Somali news thats written in Somali period. p.s. Where's Duke? This kind of thread falls into his category i would rather have muslim peacekeepers than ethiopians. Exactly the point of most good peace-loving Somalis.

lol@Faarax.

Juma, Someone one of these days needs to bigger man. These are nothing more than words on a screen. When you make such statements, not only are you insulting (in a bid to defend yourself) those who attack you, but also the good people of PL. Think about that. Defend yourself all you want, but direct your points at those who you claim to be defending yourself against building muqdisho kulaha, darling muqdisho was allready built. and i still see the demolished buildings of xamar. what the hell did you built? cant we say the same thing of the rest of north gaalkacyo, that they built puntland; boosaaso, garowe etc. i know mudug waa meel kaneeco miran, damn i hated those bugs they would fly up your nose, but they are everywhere from djibouti to kismaayo. Brother, no need to get all heated about a few comments. Sure a lot of Mogadishu is still not built, mainly the government buildings and homes of those not living in the city, but you can’t compare the capital to other areas of the country :rolleyes: . Mogadishu will undoubtedly be a greater job in terms of re-building than any other city in Somalia, if for any reason simply because of the sheer size of it. Also, go and see the city, then you can speak about what has or has not been built. Whether or not you like it, weep if you want, but the city is been built at a rapid rate and whether it is business, schooling or health, it is booming. I am proud, at the developments of somalis everywhere, be they in Djibouti, Somaliland, Puntland, Mogadishu, Somali Galbeed, NFD or Kismaayo. I do not gain satisfaction in trying to belittle my brother, because at the end of the day, in the eyes of the rest of the world, their success is my success and their failures are my failures. Secondly, I don’t believe that I said that PL was not built. Did I say that? Am I missing something here :confused: ? I know that PL is doing well for itself and I say kudos to them. Can you say the same about the folks of Mogadishu, or do we carry ulterior sentiments ? Finally, no need to get all defensive about Gaalkacyo, we all know that Gaalkacyo is kaneeco infested (more than the South anyway). Lighten up, don’t take it personal, I’m sure Gaalkacyo is no closer to your heart than it is to mine-if you know what I mean .

Telecoms thriving in lawless Somalia By Joseph Winter BBC News, Mogadishu Rising from the ruins of the Mogadishu skyline are signs of one of Somalia's few success stories in the anarchy of recent years. Mobile phone masts are among the few new structures in Mogadishu A host of mobile phone masts testifies to the telecommunications revolution which has taken place despite the absence of any functioning national government since 1991. Three phone companies are engaged in fierce competition for both mobile and landline customers, while new internet cafes are being set up across the city and the entire country. It takes just three days for a landline to be installed - compared with waiting-lists of many years in neighbouring Kenya, where there is a stable, democratic government. And once installed, local calls are free for a monthly fee of just $10. International calls cost 50 US cents a minute, while surfing the web is charged at 50 US cents an hour - "the cheapest rate in Africa" according to the manager of one internet cafe. But how do you establish a phone company in a country where there is no government? No monopoly In some respects, it is actually easier. There is no need to get a licence and there is no state-run monopoly which prevents new competitors being established. Voices of Somali internet users In pictures And of course there is no-one to demand any taxes, which is one reason why prices are so low. "The government post and telecoms company used to have a monopoly but after the regime was toppled, we were free to set up our own business," says Abdullahi Mohammed Hussein, products and services manager of Telcom Somalia, which was set up in 1994 when Mogadishu was still a war-zone. "We saw a huge gap in the market, as all previous services had been destroyed. There was a massive demand." The main airport and port were destroyed in the fighting but businessmen have built small airstrips and use natural harbours, so the phone companies are still able to import their equipment. Despite the absence of law and order and a functional court system, bills are paid and contracts are enforced by relying on Somalia's traditional clan system, Mr Abdullahi says. Mobile target But in a country divided into hundreds of fiefdoms run by rival warlords, security is a major concern. While Telcom Somalia has some 25,000 mobile customers - and a similar number have land lines - you very rarely see anyone walking along the streets of Mogadishu chatting on their phone, in case this attracts the attention of a hungry gunman. We are very interested in paying taxes Abdullahi Mohammed Hussein Telcom Somalia Life in Somalia: Have Your Say The phone companies themselves say they are not targeted by the militiamen, even if thieves occasionally steal some of their wires. Mahdi Mohammed Elmi has been managing the Wireless African Broadband Telecoms internet cafe in the heart of Mogadishu, surrounded by the bustling and chaotic Bakara market, for almost two years. "I have never had a problem with security," he says and points out that they have just a single security guard at the front door. Mr Abdullahi says the warlords realise that if they cause trouble for the phone companies, the phones will stop working again, which nobody wants. "We need good relations with all the faction leaders. We don't interfere with them and they don't interfere with us. They want political power and we leave them alone," he says. Selling goats on the net While the three phone companies - Telcom, Nationlink and Hormuud - are engaged in bitter competition for phone customers, they have co-operated to set up the Global Internet Company to provide the internet infrastructure. Somali traders say if business is better without a government In pictures Manager Abdulkadir Hassan Ahmed says that within 1.5km of central Mogadishu, customers - mostly internet cafes - can enjoy service at 150Mb/second through a Long Reach Ethernet. Elsewhere, they can have a wireless connection at 11Mb/s. He says his company is able to work anywhere in Somalia, whichever faction is in charge locally. "Even small, remote villages are connected to the internet, as long as they have a phone line," he says. The internet sector in Somalia has two main advantages over many of its Africa neighbours. There is a huge diaspora around the world - between one and three million people, compared with an estimated seven million people in Somalia - who remain in contact with their friends and relatives back home. Somalis send e-mails in their own language E-mail is the cheapest way of staying in touch and many Somalis can read and write their own language, instead of relying on English or French, which restricts internet users to a smaller number of well educated people. Just two days after it was opened, the Orbit internet cafe in south Mogadishu's km5 was already pretty busy, with people checking their e-mail accounts, a livestock exporter sending out his invoices and two nurses doing medical research. Video calling And Somalia's telecoms revolution is far from over. "We are planning to introduce 3G technology, including live video calling and mobile internet, next year," says Mr Abdullahi. But despite their success, the telecoms companies say that like the population at large, they are desperate to have a government. Mogadishu's phone engineers are going to be kept busy "We are very interested in paying taxes," says Mr Abdullahi - not a sentiment which often passes the lips of a high-flying businessman. And Mr Abdulkadir at the Global Internet Company fully agrees. "We badly need a government," he says. "Everything starts with security - the situation across the country. "All the infrastructure of the country has collapsed - education, health and roads. We need to send our staff abroad for any training." Another problem for companies engaged in the global telecoms business is paying their foreign partners. At present, they use Somalia's traditional "Hawala" money transfer companies to get money to Dubai, the Middle East's trading and financial hub. With a government would come a central bank, which would make such transactions far easier. Taxes would mean higher prices but Mr Abdullahi says that Somalia's previous governments have kept taxes low and hopes this will continue under the regime due to start work in the coming months. Somalia's telecoms companies are looking forward to an even brighter future with the support of a functioning government - as long as it does not impose punitive tax rates or state control in a sector which obviously needs very little help to thrive. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4020259.stm

These are grown people who are risking their own lives, no need to try and blame others for it. I'm sure the PL administration has far more pressing matters than those who couldn't care any less about their safety.

And they saved Greek and Roman texts. For what purpose? To learn from, Islam does not object to learning positive matters from the kuffar. They understood the importance of these findings. This isn't a bad article, but its title is misleading. No one can reform Islam, for Islam is complete and perfect. Probably so, but as I understood it, the author was highlighting just that point, that Islam is complete and perfect and that these so-called reformists are nothing more than actors of no weight.

The stark difference between northern Galgacyo (Puntland) and southern Galkacyo (USC/SNA) should remind you of the old, divided Berlin: in West Berlin, the West supported the West German government and helped that part of the city become a center of industry and economic prosperity. Only because they have turned to building Mogadishu . I must say though, each man should return to where he came from-the city is too crowded. But I doubt that anyone who has had a taste of Mogadishu not to mention gained success (in this world anyway), will be returning to Mudug (the Kaneeco is enough to make you run-thankfully my mum does not read SOL ). But then again people que up for the toilet also, dont they? That's just plain rude!

6. “Intellectualsâ€, professionals, and generally the Diaspora have funded indirectly the Somali civil war. More like directly, they are the evil people in my opinion. Just to give you an example, many of the business men and women in Mogadishu have vowed to never pay money towards these clan wars, yet the money still keeps pouring in-no second guessing where from. 8. Somalis are good entrepreneurs and can excel when given chance. How true, I was amazed at the success of business in Somalia. Just opening up a small Bakhaar will ensure almost immediate success. I have benefited so much from going home, inshallah I plan to catch the boom before it plateaus out.