LoL @ Zu...they do huh? Who would have ever guessed? Mombasa Queen...thats a cute piece. :cool:

LoL @ Xu...funny signature. Despite the fact that I try to judge ppl on an individual basis, I have to say my opinion of Somali men has been speedily going downhill of late. Working within the Somali community and especially as a Court enterpreter in London, has - most unfortunately - exposed me to the dregs of our society...whom more often than not turn out to be men. I am beginning to truly believe that we live in a society so lacking in ethics and so morally bankrupt, that it is any wonder we haven't been completely wiped out yet. And before you all look to the usual scapegoat, NO, the West isn't to blame. We are wholly and solely responsible. Kaafi, I'm forced to agree with you.

Postman...WLC Thanks for the articles nomads. Raxmah... Many thanks...that was a particularly great article.

Salaam Intuition... If I knew I couldn't fail at anything, I wouldn't worry ever again. Coz that's what I worry about the most...failing...at anything and everything. Its a phobia.

Originally posted by Khayr: Do you see any names mentioned in that??? Reference to 'these ladies' by you to deduct and conclude and pronounce me of being GUILTY of PERSONAL ATTACKS is UNJUSTIFIEDDDD!!! And if you can't come up with an PUBLIC APOLOGY for saying something that is SLANDEROUSSSS against me, then you wait your turn inshallah and Allah will give you what you deserve in DUE TIME. This is not the first time you have gone out and turned a BLIND EYE on the SOL Ladies and pointed your Spray Gun on some of the SOL male nomads. Once again I deserve an Apology, Say Walaahi that I insulted,cursed any nomad in this particular THREAD!!!! If what u claim is TRUE, then STAND UP and come up on TRAIL cause you make SERIOUSSSS ACCUSATIONS and I DON'T TAKE THEM LIGHTLY. :eek: Slander ain't an EASY WALK on the PARK. If I am lying, then inshallah I'm willing to lose my MEMBERSHIP here on SOL. Are you willing to do that to PROVE your POINT? Re-sign as a MODERATOR??? Fi Amanillah That's what I call over-dramatic! Ameenah, Good luck mate. *Sits back with a cuppa*

Originally posted by Ameenah: quote: Originally posted by garab tuujiye: AAAAAAAMIIIIIIINA waz up...I see you have became positive for someone who used to call people cave man and extra..UD ayaa iigaga marqaati ah Allah! Don't even go there walaal. I have never called UD a cave man or such. I think you might be mixing me up with someone else LoL...I think garab is confusing you with me. Kruella, I think that is very insightful sis. We dont give TIME as much attention as we should, because life, as we all think we know, is too short. Before you know it, it is over and you are only left with regrets. Therefore, it is of the utmost importance that we choose our paths carefully. Underdog, This turned out (despite certain ppl indulging in distasteful exchanges) to be a pretty good topic. Without much help from you, I might suggest. I'm not sure why, but your threads always come across as decidedly aggressive and one-dimensional when it comes to your favourite topics > women/careers/feminism. This immediately rubs most females off the wrong way from the get-go and they reply in kind. I think you would probably get much better, more thought-out and sincere replies if you changed your tone a bit and considered other contributing factors in your arguments...most significantly the role of men in the family and in society in general. Especially in today's world. I have to say that I have never actually seen you posting anything concerning the male gender, specifically Somali men, which tends to make me wonder because it is not a subject matter one can ignore infinitely, as both gender roles are two sides of the same coin. Your arguments become much less dynamic and persuasive if you are not even willing to touch on any of the modern social issues/problems except for those concerning the change in the traditional role of Somali women. This ultimately makes any analyses rather shallow. I hope you dont think I'm unduly criticing you, because I'm not. I think you have some very pertinent points, altho they tend to get lost among all the generalisations in your post. The only reason am writing this over-long post is because am tired of the ongoing gender conflict on SOL. We've to promote a better environment for discussions, because, let us face it, the ones we've had so far haven't been very conducive to helping us understand each other better, have they? -- On this particular issue of women/family/career, I have to say my view has altered somewhat from my previous posts. But as I havent solidified my new position on the subject yet, I think I will withhold my comments for a bit longer. Salaamz

>>> Velvet Revolution [EDIT] Silent Sista...good idea. See ya later.

Is it me or is Khayr's language becoming more crude these days? :eek: Plus, I dont get the point of this thread either. Pre-marital copulation is obviously wrong in our religion. We all know that. If a couple are married, however, what good will it do to dig up such distasteful information about their past? Unless you want their mistake to become public property, of course. Is that your point? You dont want them to hide their shame but to expose it to all and sundry? As for this gaalo, western biz...I am actually surprised that the woman even bothered to get married. Due to the increase in co-habitation and life-partnerships (meaning the couple are committed to each other but are not/dont want to be married), more women have children out of wedlock than in. There's no longer a stigma attached to unmarried women falling pregnant. As Muslims, we have a clear choice. Either shut our eyes and ears and trudge through life in the West, OR move to a Muslim country where we can bring up our children in an appropriate environment. We cant have it both ways.

Luving all da advice... Surviver, ur not da only one sweety. I have oily skin and tend to get skin breakouts too when am stressed. Like Sade, I went to a dermatologist n he prescribed me none other than Reaccutane (sp?). The only problem with the drug is the side-effects were a page-long. LoL...I dont kno how Sade copes with it, but I plain refused. I freaked out as soon as I read the long list of side effects, which inc kidney and liver failure - a possible, albeit extreme, side effect of the medicine. Plus da fact that, as the drug causes miscarriages, I would have to have gone on da pill as a prerequisite (my doctor didnt think much of my assertion that there was no point in going on the pill as I wasnt sexually active... :rolleyes: ). All in all, I just couldnt be bothered, plus my parents were adamant that I shouldnt even consider taking it. So, I would advice you girls to be very careful about any drugs that are prescribed for you by your doctor. Make informed decisions because after all...acne goes away eventually (altho it might not feel that way for you at the moment) and you wouldn't want to damage your overall health for such a superficial problem. An alternative is to have regular facials and invest in a good skin care system. I recently started getting facials and have noticed a huge difference in my skin. Unfortuantely, its a very pricey option. Be prepared to fork out a couple of hundred a month at the very least.

DA, U kno, there's a huge leisure complex about to open near my house this month I'A, and it seems to have everything (swimming pools, dance studios, gym...etc). The Q is, will I get off my a$$ and actually visit it? Ermm...Am not sure. Not da GYM type, but I might take some aerobics classes...IA... How much I hate any form of excercise.

^^ maxaa kaa galey adiga? Ur married now, aint you? Ka dhexbax the faarax/xaliimo story. "U folks point your toes to the roof" kulahaa, goodness...inanku af-xumaa!

My pet peeve is: Men.

Originally posted by Sophist: ...as always its good to know that my friends not only understand me but also appreciate my eccentric persona—I sometimes think though (I hope Barwaaqo would not take this as an affront) that you guys are on the same boat as I; LoL...Actually Cuz, I consider it high praise to be elevated to your level. How can we not appreciate ur accentricity when its so magnetic? Congrats once again Sophist. Happy, happy, joy, joy....

Mr Gentleman...You is da man! Thanx for da entertainment last night. Afraid I cant stay up that late again tonight...am still suffering from xalayto. Hope to catch u soon tho...IA Xena and everyone else twas a pleasure to chat wit u all. Zu...get yourself a mic for God's sake. And learn some new dance moves.

Phil, I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm sure Kitty is having a good time up there ^^. Darman and Nuune, You two are EVIL. EVIL I say! :mad:

Sophist, Congatulations and celebrations on your marriage. May Allah bless you both with a long, bright, successful life together Insha'Allah. Health and happiness for your family. Athena and UD, That was prettily put.

QQ and DA... Am getting tired of all the tit-4-tat business. Quit it please. :mad:

@ u ppl! Hibo, Was your friend intoxicated by any chance when he uttered that sentence? I don't see the correlation between the two.

Haa QQ, sidaad u ogaatay?

Originally posted by Thierry: MS X Yes there is a border line between stalking and persuing and persuading the Xalimo to say yes and its a thick one. If girls say in a serious mode Noooooo, then you dont have to tell us twice let alons extending the O's. However you can tell when the lady is playing hard to get, maybe so she dont seem easy to get, but she still wants you to ask. Ladies take a chill pill and clarify your nooo's from abowe no hmmhmh DnD harbouring stalkers, i dont call would u go out with me, would u go out with me, would u go out with me, would u go out with me, as stalking Well, I suppose if there's a system in place, where the 'NOOOOOOOOO's are clearly separated from the 'aboowe no hmmmhmhmm's, then by all means do pursue. The trouble begins when there's no such distinction. Anywho, I find it difficult to believe you would need to ask a girl out more than once.

Juxa is a clever girl, she wouldnt marry OGmoti. Not if I have anything to do with it!

LoL @ ^^ Well, to be Muslim is to be a terrorist nowadays innit? Sad fact.

Originally posted by AYOUB_SHEIKH: DnD I like your Chinese Proverbs, here is one which sums up this thread: IF YOU SREEP WIZ AN ITCHY BUM YOU WAKE UP WIZ SMERRY FINGERS Ewwww! You is a sick child my dear. Hibo, No worries darling. I do the best spagetti and your bigeys will be ready, xawaash and all. You just bring yourself to my house I'A.

^^ LoL...maybe they wanted to feel him up. Flirting is harmless fun, but I wouldnt advice any sista to flirt with strangers (somali or not). Now, should you ever meet underdog or Nomad, or even darman at a bus-stop (like they would ever take the bus anywhere :rolleyes: ), then by all means flirt with them. They obviously understand the nature of flirting and wouldn't take it the wrong way (one hopes), however, there are no such guarantees with strangers. Especially faaraxyada. Sheesh...you DONT even want to go THERE! Now I can flirt with the best of them, but only when it comes to close friends and cousins. Basically, guys I trust and feel comfortable with, otherwise no can do. Dont want to be accused of being a tease. :rolleyes:

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