^ LoL...nice term! 6. Citrus Fruits The orange is a powerful cocktail of every natural substance known to fight cancer. Um...I usually spread Lemon Marmalade on my toast. Does that count?

Like somebody said before, the only good faarax is a dead faarax. Necrophilia, anyone? :rolleyes:

^ Oh look, it's Mr Literal. Must you be so pedantic? A dime a dozen is simply a phrase used to mean you can buy a lot for a little. As in a dozen for just the dime? Go on, ask me something else.

Audacious has a silly name.

Sky: Must you post the link to that website?

This must be the Ayan Hirsi Fan Club. To think I didn't even know this woman existed till she started popping up on SOL threads every other month. Still can't see what the fuss is about. Offensive hypocrites are a dime a dozen wherever you look.

Originally posted by Mizz-S.Lander: he wz talking in terms of sucess levels, positions, promotions; he believes that most women give up and stay at home, which in his mind is a good failure; :mad: such a bloody farah; In general? Or just in SOL? If it's the former, he's probably right, if it is the latter, I don't know. Most of the girls here seem to be students (most of the males too), therefore it's possible that the working males may earn more and have better positions than the working girls. But I would contribute that to the fact that they are probably older ( ) and therefore more established. Still, I don't believe it matters, as long as each person achieves their goals in life. :cool: PS: In terms of gender dynamics in education, girls are doing much better, in the UK at least. I don't know about other countries (or if/how it relates to SOL). PPS: You're right...am soo bored. PPPS: Anyone wanna play cards?

Hello there, who insisted that in SOL, the girls are doing worsen then the guys in life; I don't understand. In life? Em..ok. So what criteria is being used to measure who is doing better than who? More importantly, who cares? Am surprised you bothered to argue with him.

^ Gabadh, 21? puhlease. I never pass 19.

Originally posted by ofleh: True. Please remain single, employed and fabulous. LoL... I would rather be married, employed and fabulous, but we can't always get what we want. Find someone (gender irrelevant) who is all that and a big bag of chips . You will then be in your late thirties and concieving should start to become an issue. But with new technology, it can be taken care of. With your dual incomes and fat savings, you can easily afford a nanny, au pair or full time care giver for your child. You can then have your cake and eat it too. Am I being mocked? :eek: Oh..how the mighty have fallen.

Viking, Absolutely. This summit has been a disgrace. I don't see what Bob Geldof is so happy about, considering the fact that he has travelled through all those countries and actually saw first-hand the need and urgency for action NOW...not in 5 or 10 year's time. The $3bn aid package pledged to Palestinians is great news, but...and this is a big BUT, it is nothing compared to US aid to Israel. Rahima, The onus is on Africans, I agree, but they can't do it without assistance. A bird with clipped wings cannot fly on its own.

Reason and coherence are products of distinction and discernment rather than crude generalisation. But terrorism is about the most sinister of generalisations, where a whole nation, a people, a planet is essentialised and deemed indiscriminately unfit for human existence. There are no people any more. There are only causes. Zu, Thanks for the link. The author effectively articulated what I have been feeling.

Sure, Haddad.

Ay Kutubey, 21 eh? Nice... Belated birthday wishes, sweets. :cool:

^^Divorce is normal...not every couple makes it. Rudy, you mad cow, whatever are you talking about?

Birthday wishes.

G8 SUMMIT RESULTS Stalemate on climate change as US position barely budges G8 nations agree to full debt cancellation for 18 countries, while African countries call for debt relief for all Africa EU members pledge to reach a collective aid target of 0.56% of GDP by 2010, and 0.7% by 2015 The G8 agrees a $50bn (£28.8bn) boost to aid A ' signal' for a new deal on trade Nothing on climate change. A 'signal' for deal on trade (meaning 'not on your life'). £28.8bn is pretty much nothing in terms of aid (divide it by 53, then take away half :rolleyes: ). And a weak pledge to reach the 0.7% of GDP target in 10 years time. What a bloody waste of time. :mad:

G8 leaders agree $50bn aid boost The G8 summit has ended with an agreement to boost aid for developing countries by $50bn (£28.8bn). UK Prime Minister Tony Blair said there was also a commitment to find an end date for farm subsidies and a will to find agreement on trade liberalisation. On climate change, he said an agreement had always been unlikely, but crucially the US had accepted that global warming was an issue. NGOs are critical of the deal, calling it a "vastly disappointing result". "The people have roared but the G8 has whispered," said Kumi Naidoo, chair of the Global Call to Action against Poverty. 'Progress' But Live 8 organiser Bob Geldof spoke of a "great day". "Never before have so many people forced a change of policy onto a global agenda. If anyone had said eight weeks ago will we get a doubling of aid, will we get a deal on debt, people would have said 'no'," Mr Geldof said. He added that he gave the G8 summit "10 out of 10 on aid, eight out of 10 on debt". Irish rock star and fellow anti-poverty campaigner Bono, praised the agreement to give universal access to Aids drugs. "600,000 Africans, mostly children, will remember this G8 submit at Gleneagles because they will be around to remember this summit, and they wouldn't have otherwise," said Bono. Key points: * Mr Blair said trade discussions in Hong Kong later this year should yield an end date to agricultural subsidies. * Britain is to host a 1 November meeting on climate change, to assess progress. * Mr Blair said "only people who can change Africa ultimately are the Africans". * $3bn agreed for Palestinian Authority for investment in infrastructure. * Nigeria's President Olusegun Obasanjo described the deal as a "success". * G8 commits to training 20,000 peacekeepers for Africa. * African leaders to commit to democracy and good governance as part of the deal. * Debts of the 18 poorest countries to be forgiven. Summing up the G8 meeting, Mr Blair acknowledged: "It isn't all everyone wanted, but it is progress." On climate change, Mr Blair said: "If it is impossible to bring America into the consensus on tackling the issue... we will never ensure the huge emerging economies, who are going to consume more energy than any other part of the world... are part of the dialogue." He said however that agreement had been reached that climate change was a problem, human activity contributed to it and it had to be tackled with urgency. 'Face of death' Earlier the prime minister had said that in the wake of Thursday's attacks, the communique was the "definitive expression of our collective will to act in the face of death". "It has a pride and a hope and a humanity that can lift the shadow of terrorism," he added. Non-Governmental Organisations (NGOs) remained critical of the G8 deal. Some described the talks on climate change as a "significant lost opportunity". G8 leaders have indicated the statement represents progress but Stephen Tindale, a spokesperson for Greenpeace, said: "The G8 has committed to nothing new but at least we haven't moved backwards on the environment." The Sustainable Energy and Economy Network, a worldwide coalition of environmental and development campaigners, said: "Urgent action is now required to substantially reduce emissions, reduce fossil fuel dependence and to protect people around the world, especially the vulnerable, the poor and disappearing nations." Source

Fariid, I get what you're saying, but there is a difference between condemning something and apologising for it. I dont believe The Council apologised. But you are all right about one thing...there's no point in arguing about this since a solution isn't fortcoming.

Afro, Morning Zeph!,How are yall Coping today? Its been pretty quiet. The attitude seems to be 'business as usual'. Not a bad thing. I was expecting silly arguments and long speeches but talk of yesterday has been confined to comparisons of our journeys home last night and the statistics of fatalities so far. Sue, I wouldn't worry. I don't plan to get further than the local supermarket this weekend, but thats only because I need to catch up on some badly-needed sleep. If you have important plans, there's no point in canceling them. But you should probably keep an eye on transport updates...I think a lot of lines will be operating a reduced service.

Originally posted by Haddad: Do we have the choice of being in or out of trouble, whether they took the responsibility or not? We have the choice of making it unequivocally clear that such indiscriminate killings are unacceptable to those Muslims who think its an option...to those stup!d Mullahs who insist on talking garbage and justifying horrific acts...and to their ignorant and docile followers. Rahima, Who’s to say that it was Muslims who are actually taking responsibility? I don’t know but this whole thing just like all the other bombings and attacks in the west just seem fishy Not that fishy, considering the same attacks have and are being carried out in both Non-Western and Muslim countries. Athena, I disagree about the desperation factor..but since ur on ur way out, lets just agree to disagree. Ofleh, Noted.

Amiin. Fariid, good to see you posting.

^ Agreed. The whole thing is utterly mind-boggling. Why would they post a statement taking responsibility if they weren't actually the ones responsible? It's like voluteering to be executed for a crime you didn't commit. Either way, the fact that they took the responsibility puts the rest of us in trouble.

They are driven to it..... out of desperation and seeking independence. Its better to die standing than to live upon your knees (as Tupac said). Athena, Tell that to the Iraqis who wake up in the morning and go to work (much like the London Commuters...much like everyone else), only to get blown up by their 'brothers' who are apparently 'fighting' for them, because they were unfortunate enough to be walking near a police station or working within 3 miles of an American checkpoint (c'mon, when was the last time an explosion killed a non-Iraqi? Last year? :rolleyes: ). But who gives a shite about them, eh? Just like the West puts Western lives above those of Muslims, so do the Muslims, when they see it as acceptable, even encourageable to kill a 1000 Muslims just to get a single American or Brit. Incredibly enough, if some silly Muslim man or woman somewhere were to say something offensive about Islam or Muslims...we'll be foaming at the mouth in a nanosecond, condemning left right and centre, ferocious in our anger and protests. How dare they speak for Islam? How dare they say this or that about Muslims? How dare they do this or that in the name of Islam?... Sometimes even going as far as threatening or inflicting physical violence on the offending person/s. Compare this with a bus full of Muslims being blown up by a 'blessed Mujahiduun' in the name of Islam and in the pretext of fighting occupation or Western unjustness, and what is our response? Silence...no condemnation, no anger, no protests...just the usual weak, pathetic mutterings about 'desperation' or 'they were driven to it' or my favourite...'its horrible BUT....". The silence from Muslims is pretty deafening in these types of cases. Sickeningly so. It seems we only occupy ourselves with the pointless and superficial. I completely agree with NGONGE when he says ----> There is something disgustingly wrong with the Muslim world today. We can all see it, we know about it and, most of us are uncomfortable with it. But, instead of concentrating on this rotten core, we bang on about Bush and Blair! PS: London seems pretty empty today. I had my choice of seats on the train, when usually the carriage would be super-packed and I would be plastered side-ways against the door. Silver lining and all...

^ Thats a relief. Thanks Jaz/Sue.