Race, I am sure, is one of many factors leading to the shambolic response we have seen in the last two weeks. It could, however, become the main issue to come out of this disaster. I await the Government Inquiry Report. Would luv to see who gets blamed.

LoL @ Xiin. A bit underhanded, but I like your style of arguing. Not that it validates the issue of contention here. These 'manly' attributes u keep mentioning, which are supposedly unique to the man-animal, are a bit vague. Perhaps you should clarify them first. (And please don't say courage or leadership, coz that will just make me giggle). NGONGE, Now who is being a silly boy? (Take note of the use of 'boy').

^ You see there? I am a girl, therefore I can be a silly girl. But you would be wrong to term a silly man a girl. A man can't be and shouldn't be referred to as a girl (as an insult). It's not insulting to be a girl. Capiche? Fix up Mr!

Originally posted by Rahima: ^Not just that honey, it's the whole culture. The whole Somali culture in terms of that which relates to women is basically warped, and really women perpetuate a lot of it. The problem is far deeper than the sayids words; we need a revolution of thinking in Somali culture-the question then naturally becomes who is willing to fight? We need more than a revolution, Rahima. We need a massacre. But I do believe the tide is turning. Can you not hear the howling in the wind?

History is full of manly-men that were really nothing but a bunch of girls. Again, I take offence at the implication. A weak man is not a girl. A silly man is not a girl. To be a girl isn't to be weak and silly. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Rahima: Seemingly according to this article and the views of some nomads, to be considered a mans man one has to be almost Neanderthal like and qualities such as kindness, compassion and sympathy are shunned upon, seen as weak and feminine. These are all qualities which one should espouse to and for those of you who are somewhat religiously inclined would know are qualities favourably mentioned by our blessed prophet and he himself had. I agree, dear. Certainly men and women are physiologically different. There is no argument about that. Physical differences and biological roles, however, differ from 'gender' roles. Gender roles are wholly invented, assigned and influenced by cultural/societal values. Neither sex has a God-given right to any of the above-mentioned attributes. Allah has given both men and women the capacity to have them and to use them. Therefore, it seems beyond ridiculous to appropriate any of these clearly unisex and universally-appealling qualities and confine them to the one gender or the other. How narrow-minded. Women can be and often ARE heroic, courageous, predatory and violent as well as kind and empathetic. Men can be and often are considerate, loving and emotional as well as hard, rugged and cold. In this day and age, it seems silly to expect us to bemoan the loss of something which has long been dead...the manly-man. If he ever existed in the first place. You can blame your male ancestors for leading you up the garden path so well. What a cruel Joke.

Originally posted by Gediid: That was the day aan rumeystey the saying of the sayid ....... mandhow carab waa naag ee. Walee naagihii baa iska ba'ay. Ileen waa ka dhab markey yiraahdaan wixii xunba xaawaa leh - a by-product of manly men, surely? Lord help us all.

Originally posted by shyhem: You just need to know amanly man does not have afeminine side,just rough,raw and rugged by the elements LoL. Does he not shower either? Or would that be considered a non-'manly' thing to do?

Shyhem, Someone who shares your surname, did you say? I think I have heard that before.

Congratulations to the two gentlemen.

O' ye, do let us lament the decline of man. Those goddamned feminists! :mad: ' Manliness...What a quaint litte term. I think the article is nothing but a howl at the moon (wolves have always been very manly). Khayr, I can't seem to make sense of your post. But that's nothing new.

Stoic, enjoy it then. Foxy, yeah. Someone is late almost everyday due to transport problems. It's the norm. Plus, there's nothing great about the UK's Transport system. It's antiquated and expensive. Third World countries run better services. I will probably meet my maker while travelling on one of those contraptions. :rolleyes:

Foxy, I would have had a perfectly good day if I hadn't needed to rely on our lovely trains. Would you believe it I was at the station at 7.30 on the dot this morning, but I managed to get to work at 9.45? Now, what's that then? Eh? I could have walked faster. Then again, at least I wasn't molested. Sheh, good for you. Stoic, what holiday are you enjoying?

^ Have you seen the rest of the contestants or the Miss World usuals for that matter? Wey qurux badantahay methinks.

Heer sare.

^ Amen. Thanks to 7 for reminding me I had posted this whine-fest previously. And now that I have dug it up again, I have nothing to say. Imagine that. :mad:

FS, Partly because it's Monday, and partly because I had a hellish journey to work this morning. Zu, Of course, I am more beautiful dear. Stop stating the obvious now.

^ Guess so. Obviously, am not as social as I thought. Or possibly, I shouldnt' have taken it when am in such a foul mood. Either way...who cares? Pumas are beautiful animals. :cool:

Hello everyone. Another bloody Monday. Wish I had stayed in bed. :rolleyes: Orgi, good to see ya posting. Hope Dubai is all you expected it to be. :cool:

Well, apparently, I am an animal. A Cougar to be exact. Oh well. :cool: What Is Your Animal Personality? brought to you by Quizilla

Eurgh!!! @ Final Say. Don't scare miskiinada. Really girls...GO TO SLEEP NOW. This is a bit ridic. Welcome again to YG. Adios. :cool:

Young one, I can already tell am gonna like you. Final say, waa ku kaa. You can try staying 'undercover' for another couple of hours.

LoL @ Inside help. Is there something I should know? I just recognised you as soon as u uttered the 'xaliimo' word.

Originally posted by young_gal: thanks zephy met u in the chatroom u sound like a nice person Heh. I am sure you'll change your mind soon enough. Enjoy the forum. :cool:

I am up because I had a craving for scones and had to pop to Tescos. Thank God for 24-hour supermarkets. Haye missy, diracii baad noo soo badashay, miyaa? Where have you been lately? We missed ya, u know. Welcome back! Happy now?