Well...you can be a Somali and still be an Arab init? just like an egyptian or Iraqi is an arab. Does being an African make you non Arab? no, Sudan and other northern Africans are arabs as well as well as an African. so perhaps the question should be - Are Somalis from Arab descent? which then questions the whole Merde that some qabiils tell each other about how their ancestors were quraysh or ahlul bayt and so on I say Somalis are whatever the Eritereans are...They are the closest to us except the language. Cheers

^^^ Since qabiil trade show is on...Where is your qabiil's stand? Are you by any chance the flag girl? Cheers

I cudn't resist; the three zeroes looked too organised... I havent thought that far..er' into the weekend... but it looks like one of those weekends where net friendlness is on the cards! And yours? Cheers

^ Congrats - you just made this topic turn 1000 Cheers

^^^ Oh yeah..it does and clearly whichever way you cut it - my calculations will spit out optimised outcome in this case the Stepford wife. See even when she is good at both and she excels the farax in both skills - the theory says she will be better off doing the first - weird huh. Well - I promise to give better examples and show case the theory in full - Once i get to home - Insha allah Cheers PS in the meantime you can dismantle and cyber xagxag the theory...er' dont have to wait for my potentially not to be materialised examples.

^^^ Oh lets not hijack the topic...enjoy the pics and in case you want some stats and info about Aussie land - I oblidged to provide..just start another topic. Cheers

Aussie land is what you make out of it. You can be a dingo or bingo player or listerine drinker or cabbie or horserider or what the city folks may call borofeshanaal bull xaarer!. On serious note, Aussie land is a land where your enemies don't know you - yeah and I mean it! Cheers

^^^ Ooh No You didn't - - - Jan? It is Jane!... Unless I changes to - Not Happy Rahima! Better ey'

^^^You are on a roll, aren't you? We should catch up once you come back to Melbourne then I will make sure you have the best time in Aussie style! Cor Blimey! Where are the Aussie boys? Rokko and the likes? Waa sidee raggu? They should all get their Akubra on and show off their horses! Cheers

^^^ How is Brizy btw? having fun?

Well ladies and Gentlemen...I do not see where all the fuss is coming from...I mean apart from the Sol'ian daac daacsi... The Undercover economist [me] will argue that the Ricardian Model aka Theory of Comparative Advantage can help to settle the issue... If you have paid attention to economy 101 you might have heard the term Comparative advantage where by nations, Firms, Orgs and perhaps individuals engage trade based on their relative advantage to produce goods and services. Within this context you can say then if one party - the woman obviously - has the comparative advantage in terms of the seduction skills {well I am assuming the farax's may need some training in this dept}, efficiency in conducting the household chores and high quality of hospitality and customer service skills [warm greeting/welcoming, massaging, quality food etc]you will then say the theory tells us that she trades these skills while the Farax provides [even tho his provision may not be the highest quality]. That is high level and simplified outlook - The undercover economist can provide slides [presentation with calculations and several scenarios to back up his theory] assuming you are interested in details. Cheers Your local undercover farax economist!

What is the fear of drawning? or the fear of water?

^^^^ Dude...what on earth are you tryin to proof? it is widely known, and I do believe it has been posted and re posted the views of Afdheere, he makes up stories about the somali community regarding homosexuality, and you posting twice his articles [which happen to be the same story btw]??? whadda? I do not get it? :confused: :confused:

Allaha U naxariisto Ayeeyadaa...idinkana samir iyo iimaan Allaha idinka siiyo...U duceey as much as you can bro. Wa salaam

^^^ starts with H?...Hot faraxs in Pyjamas? LooL Xiin...waa runtaa bay ila tahay...goortii iigu danbaysay aragooda maba xasuusto Cheers

Waar horta soma;lida iyo cousin-nadu maxay un isu daba socdaan. mid kasta wuxuu/waxay leey(d)ahay "aniga iyo cousin-kayga " LooL@ Caano...over 25 syndrome dheh! Cheers

^^^ LoooL...perhaps their hopes didn't materialise. We will see if they get some ammunition u qarsan oo ay la soo baxaan. I have to admit haven't read any of his books. Cheers

Who said inflation is bad? Stagflation is bad. However, that doesn't mean inflation should not be controlled. Now Interest rates are one part of the many tools used to control inflation in the economy. So don't perish...you will be alrite folks. Dhuc Dhuc, they should only if they are willing to keep it until the pound falls to the point where the difference can cover the cost of exchange rate and some profit. Note some currency speculators have already factored in the potential fall of the pound Cheers

Oh One more thing, I haven't explained some parts of the concept of prayers in Islam relating to this topic i.e. what makes a prayer answered and types of answers. to do that, why don't you think of a scenario where the status quo has to changed as a result of a prayer. Then I will lay down the rules of prayers according to Islam and then see if predestination and prayers conflict! You will be surprised how they all fit together. Cheers

Sorry for responding to your post later than I would have liked, after the formalities, Let me start while you cohesively trying to put some reasonable scenarios, you have made the error to mix the order of things as well as not understanding the concept of prayers in Islam (I can only speak about Islam since it is my religion and I would be lying if I try to view holistically across religions) saying that... I will reiterate that you can not understand predestination without first admitting the relationship between time and predestination and knowledge [sorry I have to point out the obvious, something I have been avoiding in my past posts]… Here if you remove time from the equation then you would agree the whole predestinations won’t make any sense since the act of pre-destination requires to happen before an act of free will takes place i.e. it is foreordained before you commit any act, no? In this case you would understand that GOD’s (Allah’s) omnisciency precedes time itself, simply GOD knows even before it is predestined are you with me? To show it in a very simplistic way [and here I am admitting with this analogy I may agitate some folks] – at a human level, if you were to record a historical event, lets say you video taped a football match, memorised it, and later when your mates are watching you (we assume they don't kow about the game), you predict all the acts that would happen what would your mates say about it? See in my silly and simple example I am trying to demonstrate the relationship between time, predestination and knowledge! Another thing I like to point out to you is, without free will, Predestination won’t make any sense contrary to the belief “predestination and free will are at odds!!” How so, if there is no free will what is there to predestine, without free will any act can only happen one way. Does that make any sense? In your scenarios, For the time being lets not include God’s Actions in the formula [we will talk about that later] Funnily enough you have answered your own question, yet you failed to see it because you are failing to establish the relationship between time and predestination. Prayers are actions, aren’t they? How could they be outside of predestination? Therefore in your scenarios, I have the free will to make the prayers just as I would make any other choice in life! you Also have mentioned several times how GOD has to change the status quo to accept my prayers! Is that the right assumption here? As for why people have to bother to if they accept GOD’s omnisciency, well they don’t know, do they? It’s like saying, why do I need to take any action if it is predestined! Cheers

Originally posted by Gediid: I know this dude.One of three Somali real estate agents in Virginia.When Somalis started to buy homes in Virginia instead of renting this brother was the first to cash in.He made his mark then and continues to do well but the real estate market in America is all about riba and as far as I know one who deals in real estate profits from that.We might as well start celebrating Ayan Ali Hersi's achievements as well while we in the mood for celebrating.... Bal Geediid and xiinoow Tell us how he is profiting from riba? is he selling mortgage packages or selling the houses??? Cheers

^^^ No Effin waaay!

^^^^ Sxb...While I see the simplicity of blaming the west for everything... They are more exposed to the western views then their own islamic way of life. therefore they are more likely to take up western views on issues that are important to them. in this case its womens rights. this girl obviously has seen the differences between how this issue is dealt with in the West and has found that our religion doesnt deal with it the way she wants it. I think the above statement doesn't cut it...first you assuming that the kids have not being exposed enough to the Islamic way of life? what about if She was schooled perhaps not properly in Islamic way of life but still went to the madrassa therefore the issue is not being brainwashed at all! will you then say it is the failure of the Islamic schoolers that these kids are turning against Islam? that perhaps we are not teaching these kids Islam properly? or could it be potentially the failure of thier parents for not nurturing these kids in the Islamic way of Life? Well.. whaddausaynow! Cheers

^^^ LooL..Mellowed JB, Wonderful! Changing the Status Quo...hmmm..see that appeals to my economist side...and I am almost tempted to bring in Bashwati's [Nobel prize winner] Article about changin the Status Quo..funny eh..who would have thought economics have anything to do with or at least partially can be use to understand God's planning of his creation?...well then again I may use that later when the discussion heats up. But for the time being I'll discuss the concept of Predestination, Predestination itself is defined by time - what do I mean by that? predestination only exists within time, if you remove time then predestination has no meaning. Seemingly everything that is foreordianed including the foreordianation itself require Time to exist; however God's unlimited knowledge precedes [funny how someone uses time to explain something that exists outsite of time] the concept of Time then that will take us to the concept of God being Omniscient, now do you see how the whole argument about the predestination doesn't mean anything once you accept God's omnisciency? Now do you accept that is the question? if no then the whole argument above is pointless! PS: I am skipping alot of explanation in between - coz I assume you are able to see how the chain is connected! Cheers Matey!

^^^^ Pierced thru your afro eh! or you benefited from the oozing enlightment! me wonders! Cheers PS: me thinks 'me'[the forumer] has a point there!...she is not the most pleasant candy..altho that is irrelevant!