when Abdullah ibn Zubayr fought against Al-Hajjaj, the tabie'n that came after agreed that he was WRONG. So, if that is the case for that Salaf, one should really re-check their opinion before critizing the salafis. Allahu Musta'an One of their decieves is the comparison between the leaders of early Islam and Al-saud and their cronies. The early Islam leadrers, desbite their corruption and sometimes their cruelity like Hajaj, they were guarding Muslim borders and never collaberated or appointed by the enemies of ISLAM. Furthermore, who were the Tabiciin who wronged Abdulahi Ibn Zubayr? starnge, he died as a MAN and SHAHID his mother ASMAA BINT ABU BAKAR was with him until his martydom encouraging him not to surrender to the oppressor who killed thousands of MUSLIM population including hundreds of SAHABA and you're saying he was wronged by Taabiciin ! . One faced such TYRANY was wrong! which religion you're presenting for? abu turaab I know this group very well; their bigest enemy is the one who challenge the tyranny like Abdulah Ibnu subayr, Said ibn Jubair, Ibn Taymiyah, Sayid Qutub and many others. They don't like those who are in the prisons of the oppressors or being excuted. In sum, they HATE AWLIYAAULAAH and they love tyrannies like FAHAD, JAMAL BADINASIR, MUBARAK and their likes.

Salafi Da'wa, Sheikh Mohamed Bin Abdulwahab revolt against Othman Khilafah (i'm not saying Empire because a. I don't believe it was an Empire but it was weak Islamic Khilafah b. the West labelled it) ruling almost all Muslim land including Najd & Hijaz (Where today you cal Saudi Arabia), So where he was right or wrong? Second if you (and Salafiyah group) claim that you're the followers of the Sheikh, why don't you fight agianst these small countries like Qatar, U.A.E, Bahrain, Kuwayt etc to unite(at least) Arabian penisula since his aim was to unite Arabian penisula under one leadership (King Abdulaziz) and he fought against autonomy provinces to force them to join this leadership, so why don't you follow him and to annex these small provincies? Thirdly, was the aim of Sheikh to create a kingdom of First (Al-saud), second (Al-sheikh) and third Mawali (the rest) citizens (which i don't think it) or to create an Islamic state which is different from the Othman Khilafah? if it's the later why the Sheikhs of your group don't declare that this was not the aim of the Sheikh? in other words why are are happy with Al-saud regime which everybody (muslim and non-muslims) see that they're far from what the Sheikh was fighting for? or they think that this was what the Shiekh was fighting for? Finally, please answer the above questions since you're the Embassy of this group, and you're allowed to copy & paste here.

Sakina Thanks for preventing the misguiding of this Al-Saud Group who misguided MUSLIMS by calling themselves SALAFIYAH. They're the PR of the Kingdom and its well known that every government spend a lot of money to its MINISTRY OF INFORMATION. I really laugh when I see their 8,9 articles . Just look when it comes other DAWA groups like TABLIIGH, IKHWAN, TAXRIIR etc. they're very hard on them and they sometimes say they're worse than the KUFARS, but when it come FAHAD, ABDALLA, and AL-SAud regime they're like domestic SLAVES :rolleyes: , We hold that it is not permissible to spread the faults of the leaders, because doing this influences and brings about trials and afflictions (fitan), and causes them to spread. What cleaverness :cool: , they know how to get their funding but i'm very sorry those who trapped in their net. If you have MONEY (sometimes) you can turn the DARK to LIGHT and vice vers but DARK is always DARK and LIGHT is always LIGHT. AL-saud KINGDOM has invested huge money to dominate MUSLIM world and this group is their most important LIFELINE. However, they realised that their honeymoon has come to an end. what they're traying now is to change their tactics but IT'S OVER :eek: .

INAA LILLAAHI WA INAA ILAYHI RAAJICUUN It's very sad news and my condolences to you and your family and I ASKA ALLAH to grant you and all your familay a PATIENCE.

أعتقد التÙجيرات التي حصلت ÙÙ‰ المملكة أجبرتهم الأعترا٠بالأخر! الزمن تغير.الناس ما عادو يخاÙون Not only INSIDE EXPLOSIONS but OUTSIDE as well and particullarly those who were they funding to destroy other regimes diverted their weapons against them. I hope their next step will be allowing women to DRIVE so OG-Girl will drive to MAKKAH INSHALLAAH. :cool: What do you recommend they should do, Sahal? As I said b4 they started to adopt these changes and I think they're well-trained to adopt every weather, they can survive as long as they know we wouldn't account them, just like our warlords. believe me or not I know many of them who changed their shapes, their attitude towards certain issues (sometimes at their fundmental issues like who's MUSLIm and who's KAAFIR) without any problem, after all who will count them? Just for one example; I know some of them who were saying that certain warlords in SOMALIA are KUFFARS and anyone who defend them is also same, but after a while (when the SAUDI policy on this issue has been changed) cried and said who can say MUSLIM blood is HALAL, MUSLIM blood is scared and anyone who kills other MUSLIM unlawfully will enter jahannama etc. and no one could say them; Were not you the ONE who said so and so? Why did you kill or contripute to kill so many Muslims? Are there new AYAS or HADITHS? One of them is a BIG SHEIKH and all or most of you may know said; They (Al-itixaad) were decieving me last 20 years, so don't fall the same hole that i've fallen enz. This is only one example. So they can easily adopt and go with any circumantances as long as there is enough funding as OG-Girl said.

We've seen recent days many MAWLIID activities such as meetigs, lectures, festivals, across the Muslim countries except Saudia (at least publicly), So I wonder whether this will be the next issue i.e whether the saudi religious authority will say MAWLIID activities are not BID'A (Innovation) as long as they confined meetings, lectures etc. and intrestingly what would be the future of many Somali brothers/sisters who like a PARROT were repeating every Saudi made goods/articles/fatwas etc? would they change accordingly (as we've already noticing) or ...?

Yacquub, Sxb. as the artcle says Sheikh wants to defend NIQAB but pressure come from above and below to stop this opposition and he was told that his position (Obligatory of NIQAB)is weak. and as the aticle says before there was only one OPINION in Saudia but now they accepted that there is another opinion in this matter and surprisingly they admitted that they were wrong and others were right :cool: but the question is WHY NOW? Waxaa iyanaxusid mudan inaan in mudo ah la soo bandhigi jirin ra,yiga culimada islaamku ka sheegeen arinta waji faydka, taasoo badanaa la oran jiray hal ra,yi oo ah inuu cawro yahay ,arinta raajixa ama loo badan yahayna badanaa aan la sooba qaadi karin , balse tani tahay isbedel ku yimi mawqifkii culimadaa intii baryahan ah.

Just two or three weeks ago we heard that Saudi Mufti issued FATWA threatning anyone who force his daughter to unwanted (Forced Marriage) and immidiately many Sheikhs in Saudia started condemning this kind of MARRIAGe as it was not HARAM before BUSH junior. These days another issue raised; NIQAAB or INDHA SHAREER or BURGAC. Anyone who has some insight of Saudi Affairs particulary in Religiuos FATWAS couldn't find any SAUDI SHEIKH dared to say NIQAB is not OBLIGATORY in ISLAM. we've heard many ULUMAS outside SAUDIA who made clear that NIQAB issue is tradition of some ARAB and other MUSLIM societies but its not an ISLAMIC obligation and this FATWAS met fierce resistance both from religious and government authorities in SAUDI kingdom. What has been changed since then? just read this article; Caa,id Qarni oo dib u gurtay ,iyo Hayfaa Mansuur oo filimkii suuq u heshay Waayaha, Riyad, Saudi Arebiya Riyad:Sheekh Caaid Qarni oo ka hadlay filimka (Naago aan har lahayn)oo ay soo agaasintay Hayfaa Mansuur ayaa ku tilmaamay in wajigu cawro yahay lagana rabo Hayfaa haday rabto filankaa inay soo bandhigto qariso wejiga dumarka ku jira filimka, waxaa filimka lagu soo bandhigay Qunsuliyada Faransiiska ee Jida. Khudbad uu ka akhkriyey magaalada Riyad uguna magacdaray (cadaynta mugdiga) ayaa waxuu ku sheegay in uu la hadlay culimo waawayn sida , muftiga guud sheekh C/casiis Alsheekh,Wasiirka arimaha diinta Sheekh Saalix Al-sheekh yo Sh.Salax Al-fawzan , waxayna kula taliyeen dhamaantood inuu si fagaare ah arinta uga hadlo una cadeeyo ra'yiga loo badanyahay(raajixa ah)ee culimadu qabto kaas oo ah in wajigu aanu cawro ahayn. waxa kale oo raaciyay in cadaadis kala kulmay arintaa kana yimi rag ay ka mid yihiin Dr.Sacad Bareek ,Dr.Salman Cawda ,Dr.Rashid Zahranir xawaali .Dr. Nasir cumar iyo rag kale kuligoodna waxay kula taliyeen inuu ra,yigaa ka noqdo balse waxuu sheegay inuu sii wadi doono dadaalkiisa ku salaysan in uu la dagaalo dadka doonaya is qaawinta iyo reer-galbeed iska dhiga,iyo dhawrsanaanta iyo xijaabka inuu gacan siindoono ra,yiga culimada siday tahay u cadayn toono ,ilaahbaana gafin ,asagaana danbidhaaf waydiisanaynaa ayuu yiri sheekhu. Hayfaa Mansuur oo ah gabar Sacuudiyad ah ayaa filimkan waxay ku soo bandhigaysaa heerarka kala duwan ee ay soo martay haweeneyda Sacuudiga ah ayadoo waraysatay dad kala fikir duwan,waxayna sheegtay inay suuq fiican u heshay filinkan loona soo bandhigay fursado badan Waxaa iyanaxusid mudan inaan in mudo ah la soo bandhigi jirin ra,yiga culimada islaamku ka sheegeen arinta waji faydka, taasoo badanaa la oran jiray hal ra,yi oo ah inuu cawro yahay ,arinta raajixa ama loo badan yahayna badanaa aan la sooba qaadi karin , balse tani tahay isbedel ku yimi mawqifkii culimadaa intii baryahan ah. Fu,aad Ciid Waayaha,London, UK Source: wayaha HADDAAD DHIMAN WAYDID GEEL DHALAAYANA WAAD ARKI! What will be the NEXT? Would they say for example ........ we will wait and see the new George Bush's reforms :rolleyes:

Salafi, Sxb. This Hadith is in Al-tabaraani as you mentioned but not in Al-kabeer it is in Al-awsat which means Sheikh Tabarani (r.l) himself didn't put the highest (kabeer) and even if he is in the KABEER as you said we know Tabarani's Mu'jam is not among the 6 great books of HADITH (6 MOTHERS = UMMHAATU SITTA). My point here is; I have been following this debate last 10 yrs and I don't understand why some students make small things BIG and BIG things small. we're ordered thousands other MAIN things that we didn't follow, why this small issue become so BIG that make some MUSLIMS eating RIBA (which has plenty of evidences of its prohibtion) and HARAM (which also has plenty of evidences of its prohibtion) and telling many LIES ( which also has plenty of evidences of its prohibtion) enz.. and when it comes this minor issue which has no evidence neither from QURAN nor from BIG HADITH BOOKS, saying NO our religion doen't allow us to give hand to opposite sex. This doesn't mean we have to initiate to give hands to others but means that Muslim should keep away not only from giving hands but also from all FORBIDDEN things. and this could only be possible if one FIRSTLY keeps away from big sins like RIBA, TELLING LIES, KILLING OR ENCOURANG TO KILL OTHER MUSLIM, EATING HARAM MONEY enz. and then tries as much as he/she can to keep away from small sins like giving hands to opposite sex. This is the opinion of ULUMA in this issue. they told us to keep away from EATING HARAM, RIBA, TELLING LIES enz. before we discuss such small things.

Salafi Just for clarification; Would you please give us the narration of the above HADITh i.e from which HADITH BOOK E,G BUKHARI, MUSLIM, THIRMIDI, ABU DAU'D ETC. ITS LEVEL OF AUTHENTICITY E,G SAHIH, HASSAN, DHAI'IF etc. and also if there are any similar evidences. Thanks in Advance. Sahal

we should follow all of these ulamas collectively with daleel (evidence) and not attach our self to a particular imam or sheikh, Which daleel (evidence) did you have by followig sheikh Albaani when he said: isn't sufficient to call yourself as MUSLIM! ALLAH (S.W.T) gave us this name and didn't give us other name so tell me which daleel did you follow the Sheikh? This is your quote if you forgot Shaikh al-Albaani: "When it is said to you, ‘What is your madhhab’, what is your reply?" Questioner: "A Muslim". Shaikh al-Albaani: "This is not sufficient!". Questioner: "Allaah has named us Muslims" and he recited the saying of Allaah Most High, "He is the one who has called you Muslims beforehand." (al-Hajj 22:78) Waiting your respond!

One should not follow the imams blindly sticking to their madhabs or views as if these had descended from the heaven! Allah SW says ‘Follow o men the revelation given to you from your lord, and follow not, as friend or protector other then him, little is ur remembrance of admonition.’ Al araaf, 7; 3 Ukhti Muslimah, when I asked your evidence of calling yoursel as SALAFI you (and others in SOL) answered Sheikh ALBANI said so without any evidence from KITAAB & SUNNAH :rolleyes: . Who follow Imamas blindly? YOU or those who preferd SALAF SCHOLRS from KHALAFS in some FIQH branches of islmaic rules? You followed Sheikh Albani without any evidence from KITAAB & SUNNAH in order to create a new CULT called SALAFIS which is more dangerous than following by one sheikh in FIQH branches and yet accusing others by following IMAMAS blindly :confused:

Bro. Nur Jazakulah Khayr My intention was that some people criticise following for four IMAMS while they themselves follow KHALAF Imams blindly and sometimes they follow theses Sheikhs without any evidence from the KITAAB & SUNNAH as i several times asked many here to give any evidence that someone can call him/herself SALAFI and the only evidence they got was Sheikh Albani said so and so, the strange is that these people are those who are criticising FOUR IMAMS and saying ALLAH didn't order us to follow these Imams enz. So, Bro. Nur how can we tell these ppl to think twice and don't criticise those noble IMAMS while you're following KHALAF scholars and remenber some of them even don't know that these IMAMS were SALAF since they all lived firt 3 century of this UMMAH. They claim that they're follwers of SALAF and criticise lay person who follow one of the SALAF while they, on the other hand, want everybody to follow KHALAF scholars sometimes without any evidence.

May I contribute this by asking the same question that I asked in other thread which is if we have to follow IMAM (or more than one IMAM) who should we follow? SALAF IMAMS like SHAFICI, AHAMAD, ABU-HANIFA, and MALIK or KHALAF scholars?

When I have time, I will post what this Shaykh said about Ad'Dawtus Salafiyyaah, and calling oneselve "Salafee" Abu Yususf Sxb. Islam is not like one and three GODS at the same time. The Christians always argue that it's difficult to understand how one GOD could be three GODS unless I/we explain you deeply and you read this or that book, then you'll understand how 1 = 3 :confused: Brother ISLAM is a simple as A B C and needs an evidence from KITAAB & SUNNAH. It's not like philisophy that you'll not understand unless you realise that 1 = 3 , we're all Muslims we want from you an evidence from KITAAB & SUNNAH and even from SALAF SALIH themselves that you can call yourself SALAFI rather than MUSLIM, simple is that!. we don't need complex arguments and counter- arguments. Finally i will repeat ny second question: Who should we follow? SALAF SCHOLARS like SHAFICI, ABU HANIFA, MAALIK and AHMED BIN HANBAL or KHALAF Scholars?

Ukhti Muslimsh My question still stands! still waiting your response and it is: Do you love all MUSLIMS or you love some of them? The one who ascribes himself to the four well-known madhhabs, then he has ascribed himself to those who are not protected from making mistakes as individuals - even though there are from them Scholars that attain what is correct. This is laughable quote and we heard many times from this sect, unfortuanately some of them even don't know that these four IMAMS are among the SALFIS that they're claiming to be their fellowers :confused: , and the other strange is that (as we just seen from Ukhti muslimah and others) their evidences are always from KHALAFIS who some of them are still alive and have high posts in Saudi Arabia or other oppresive Arab governments and some of the have just passed away. therefore my second question to them is: Who should we follow? SALAF SCHOLARS like SHAFICI, ABU HANIFA, MAALIK and AHMED BIN HANBAL or KHALAF Scholars?

If the Salafis want to be taken seriously I think they need to answer all the questions people have of them. From my past experience whenever they cannot answer questions they just start attacking people calling them names and changing the subject altoghether. Very True

Mr XIIN FINIIN, Ha degdegin, Sxb, I have enough experience for this SCHOOL, my experience goes back to more than decade, therefore ha duulin sidii XIIN FINIIN. Everybody can claim what he/she likes and everybody can see him/herself that they're on right path but it's difficult many of us to differentiate between RIGHT and WRONG. Just a while ago there was a guy who called himself as Salfi Dawa. this guy was posting evevryday insult of one of ULUMA he started SAyid Qutub, Sheikh Qradawi, SAlman Al-awda, Safar Al-xawali, Abula'la Al-Mawdadi and many others. That's why I said that this school is built on haterd, if you look back this guy's articles which he was COPYING & PASTING from their websites you will realise the reality of this MADHAB. With regard the Ukhti Muslimah, I wish if she keep her name and not call herself another name since this is the best name on on earth MUSLIM and ALLAH has named us this name as he (S.W.T) said in his Quran "He is the one who has called you Muslims beforehand." (al-Hajj 22:78) but the word "Salaf" was used by the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) himself. He said to Faatimah, "How excellent a Salaf I am for you." (Muslim, no. 2450). Ukhti Muslimah SALAF is an ARABIC word it could be mentioned in the QURAN as well as in HADITH. but the meaning of the above HADITH doesn't imply to call ourselves as SALAFI let alone order it. So, what is the point of above HADITH, or the SALAFI group searched whole HADITHS and couldn't find teh SALAf word other than this HADITH :confused: . UKHTI MUSLIMAH I need evidence saying that we can call ourselves SALAFI rather than MUSLIM, not HADITH mentioned the word SALAF, there are thousands of words mentioned in the QURAN as well as in SUNNAH so what? I need order or prohibition or at least implication evidences not that the word mentioned in the QURAN or SUNNAH The ANT and the MOSQUITO mentioned in the QURAN so what? does this mean I can call myself MOSQUITO rather than MUSLIM. I can give you many evidences taht ALLAH (S.W.T) ordered us to call ourselves MUSLIMOON and not other names. in addition to the above evidences here are some of them: 1. ALLAH said in suurat Al-Haj) "He is the one who has called you Muslims beforehand." (al-Hajj 22:78) 2. ALLAH said in suurat Al-Maidah "... I have prefected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you ISLAM as your religion ...." (5:3) 3. ALLAH said suurat Al-Imran: "And whoever seeks a religion other than ISLAM, it will never be accepted of him and the herafter he will be one of the loosers." (3.85) 4. ALLAH said in suurat Al-Baqarah "And this (ISLAM) was enjoined by Ibrahim upon his sons and by Ya'qub (saying) 'O my sons! Allah has chosen for you the (true) religion, then die not except in the faith of ISLAM (as MUslims)" So, Ukhtii and anyone else give me like the above evidences showing that ALLAH ordered us to call ourselves or to adhere other than the ISLAM/MUSLIMS and please don't say Sheikh Fulan said so or Minster fulan said so enz. Finally Ukhtii Muslimah you didn't answer my question: Do you love all MUSLIMS or you love some of them?

i can see you have soo much haterd for salafs Ukhti Muslimah, I have debated on this issue with someone called Salafi D'awah so I don't want to repeat again again but the only thing I want to add is that the School that you're advocating is built on HATRED, the proof is I can say this publicly and I c'm challenging you to say publicly. I love all MUSLIMS whatever their madhabs are including SHIA because I believe that they're MUSLIMS. can you repeat that word or even copy & paste then I can exclude you from this group and we can talk further about other issues.

Shaikh Saalih Aal ash-Shaikh, Minister of Islamic Affairs of Saudi Arabia, stated, "Muslims are of two groups: Salafis and Khalafis. As for the Salafis, then they are the followers of Salaf us-Saalih (first three generations of Muslims). And as for the Khalafis, then they are the followers of the understanding of the Khalaf and they are also called Innovators - since everyone who is not pleased and satisfied with the path of the Salaf us-Saalih, in knowledge and action, understanding and fiqh, then he is a khalafi, an innovator." Is this is is QURAN AYAH or HADITH from our PROPHET or quote from SAHABAH or First Generation (SALAF). Non all of these, rather it is quote from MINISTEr of a government which has more than US$ 860 billion dollrs in US financial institutions (remember all these institutions are RIBA based institutions and REMEMBER many MUSLIMS are dying hunger and diseases) a government which refuses ISLAMIC BANK to operate in its control territory, which has thousands of US Army in its control territory to attack other muslim countries from its terrotiry as they did to IRAQ recently, shall i continue ....? According this quote anyone who say i'm salafi is a follower of Salaf us-Saalih (first three generations of Muslims). and anyone who didn't say i'm salafi he sentenced to death penalty :eek: So, Guys let's all be SALAFIS because the minister gave us guarantee if we say we're salafi that we're salfis either to be SALFI or KHALAFI (George Bush's way) no middleground . Ukhti Muslimah if you've been misguided by these Ministers and their deputies we're MUSLIMS and ALXAMDULILAAH. we'll never take any other NAME but ISLAM and MUSLIM no SALAFI or KHALAFI. This is the name that ALLAH orders us to adhere. the misnister also mentioned innovaters etc. but unfortunately he forgot that this name (SALAFI) itself is innovated recently and never mentioned neither in QURAN nor in the SUNNAH nor from the first ten or so generations of ISLAM. So, the only thing we're asking ALLAH for him, us and all the MUSLIMS is to show us the RIGHT PATH.

Sahl ur back, still barking uh!!! I'm not blaming you, but i'm blaming the Admin who banned many people without solid evidence of abusing others (sometimes criticising one warlord or word M O O R Y A A N etc.) and let you to use different names (sometimes as an inquirer, sometimes as a defender etc.) and insult our Noble Uluma like IMAM SHAAFICI and many others. but remember you'll never misguide the people as long as i'm here. if the Admin don't do their job, i'm here to disclose your dirty tricks and to prevent others to inhale the fumes from your poison.

missed the simple old days in which you went to the masjid and Islam was simple. Me tooooo Shirwac, B4 the emerge of this group there was a BARAKA in DEEN, nowdays people get confused because they were told: Salafi da'wah wrote: 1) why do u follow the Madhab of Imam Shafee’e? 2) did Allah command you? 3) Did Nabi command you? 4) Did imam Shafee’ ask the ummah to make him one of the Madhabs? Intrestingly, when they were forced to denounce their MADHAB (because their lack of knowldege) they were told to follow other Sheikh/s who lived in 20th Century who also follow certain MADHAB and then later told NO, not this one, this one oh! NO this Sheikh was wrong follow this one and so on ..... until we become GOOD FOR NOTHING but MURAN iyo DOOD.

Assalaamu Calaykum, to prevent the misguiding of this person I would like to highlight these issues. Unfortunately the Ummah of Mohammad(salalahu alayhi wa salam) has adopted this ill-system of confining Islam into 4 school of Thought(4 madhab). is this is ill minded approach or attempt to simplify the Islamic Fiqh for simple street musalim man/woman? quote: A principal that is neither furnished by the Noble Qu’ran, the Sunnah of the nabi(salalahu alayhi wa salam) nor from the 4 Imams. Is Salafiyah Madhab mentioned Noble Qu’ran, the Sunnah of the nabi(salalahu alayhi wa salam) or from the 4 Imams? Few questions need to be addressed; 1) why do u follow the Madhab of Imam Shafee’e? 2) did Allah command you? 3) Did Nabi command you? 4) Did imam Shafee’ ask the ummah to make him one of the Madhabs? What about the Salafiyah that you're Promitting it? Did ALLAH cammand you call yourself MUSLIM or Salafi? Imam shaf’ee was a distinguished imam from the Time of the Salaf us SaliX, and like any Other Imam from the salaf, The “salafies†adore him. :confused: The Salafi Da’wah in essence calls to the madhab of the salaf, who are numerous, far exceeding 4. we call you to drink from the springs of the Illustrious scholars of Hadeeth,Fiq,tafsir, and other issues relating to islam, such as Sufyan At-thwari, the great Imam from Egypt, Sa’d bin Layth, Imam Fudayl ibn Iyaad, Sufyan ibn ‘Uyayna, Ibn al-Mubarak, Imam Abu Abdur-rahman Awza’ee, and their likes Is anyone who follow one of 4 IMAMS fiqh explanation in a position to refuse the other Salaf Salah's guidance? or is a hypothesis? Our Creed and Methodology quote: few of our scholars our ..? are you other than the Muslims we know? why don't you say Islamic Aqeedah some of Islamic scholars etc. Why do you always distance from yourself the name of ISLAM which ALLAH ordered us to be PROUD of it and repalce it OUR ..Salafi etc. Your group is against 4 Fiqh madhab's but do you know haow many Salfiyah affilliations are the there? before we had 4 FIQH Mahdhabs which was normal even the first generation of the ISLAM i.e SAHABAH (R.A); for example if someone ask IBN ABBAS (R.A) a FIQH question he may respond a different way that, for example, IBAN CUMAR (R.A) was responded. and even the presence of our PROPHET (S.A.W) they differ in some FIQH matters and our PROPHET (S.A.W) approved it. Your group did not only differ other Muslims in Fiqh and Aqeedah matters, but also within themselves they differ in many AQEEDAH issues. These are just two examples: If someone don't pray 5 Islamic prayers some of the Scholars whom you called them 'OUR scholars' verdictt hat he/she is KAAFIR i.e non Muslim and they said he must be seprated from his wife and if he dies he wouldn't be buried in a muslim graves enz. while others say this methodology is TAKFEER methodology and those who say this verdict are TAKFEERs, we don't make kafir to any Muslim whatever sin he/she may do etc. Other AQEEDAH example is Iraq war and Americsan military stationing in Saudi arabia, some of these scholars said it is not allowed and some say it's permissable to ask kufar's help against Muslims and still saying that what is going in Iraq is Fitnah and Muslims should avoid it enz. which is AL WALAA WAL BARAA Aqeedah issue and many other examples. So, what's your aim? to make more differences between the Muslims or what? are the 4 mahabs differ in AQEEDAH issues as your madhab's diiferent directions do? why don't you let simple street man/woman to follow his teacher's FIQH madhab as ALL ISLAMIC SCHOLARS including many of those you called OUR scholars agree?

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