For me she must be BARREY, where? I don't mind but she must has BAR on her body, some people prefer on face but I don't mind :cool:

Another copy & paste, what is the next?

What about my questions? Why don't you answer my questions? Whay are you escaping from them? Bro. Sisade asked me to be patient in the hope that you'll answer them but instead you insulted Sheikh qaradawi by saying he lied many times enz. and yet you're saying me Fear of Allah :eek: You're aim is let me spread my poison and create hate between the muslim by backbiting this and insulting that and i'll not let you that i'll chase you and a i'll discloSe all you're tricks and decieves because i know where you're copying this poisons, but as i told you the funding of such websites will come to an end since the Saudi regime is his last breath taking so, i'll defend this website untill this funding will come to and end then we'll relax from their poisons INSHAALLAAH Finally, this is vomiting free area so, either you answer my questions or YUOU'RE THE WEAKST LINK, GET OUT !

And remember that your regime (Al-saud) is his last days, even their creators are want to get rid off them. therefore I wouldn't surprise if you couldn't find any more copy & paste articles :mad:

Sheikh Al-Qaradawi has layed to waste and caused to die the creed of loyalty and disownment (al-walaa al-baraa) with respect to the Kuffaar. Is this is your message that you copied from so-called salafi online and pasted Somaliaonline. The strange is this guy is saying that there are some people who insulting ULUMA. The peoiple are neither blind nor sick like you, they know Sheikh Qaradawi and they know that he is the only one who spoke out against American and Jewish and still critizising them while others were disappeared or hiding behind their rulers. Please go this vomiting to your website and don't spoil this website by copy & paste from hatred websites.

I missed this useful thread, but i will catch up while i'll continue to keep an eye on a .....

manouevring around AHAAD HADIITHS

Sisade Thanks, Bro. I will be patient like a CAMEL. :cool:

I answered his question but he didn't answer any of my questions, could he say WHY? or as they say TRUTH HURTS

Salafi I asked a question and I answered your question Is that an itchy? The others will judge between us weather i'm wrong or not.

Originally posted by Salafi_Online: Innalhamdulillah.... The question is who's interpretation of the quran and the Hadith do we adher to? To minimize the differences between the Muslims and to not create more sects ULUMA recomended this: The simple muslim should follow one of the four IMAM's (SHAFICI, ABU-HANIFAH, MALIK AND AHMAD'S) Interpretation since they took from SAHABAH (R.A) and lived in the best 3 centuries of ISLAM. The scholars and their students can compare and contrast all the salaf's Interpretations and big Scholar's only (not the students) could reach some different conclusions in the context of the 3 best centuries of Islam but this should not be forced simple muslims to follow since it create more differences. for Example if you convinced Sheikh ALBANI's Interpretation (Who is in XANBALI context) don't force Somalis for instance to follow it because they're Shaficis and this would create more hatred and differences between them as we see today. same is valid for Sheikh Qaradaw's interpretation (who is in the SHAFICIS context) you can't force for instance saudis who follow XANBALI Madhab. and so on.

salafi, I'm asking you the same question i asked you another thread. Is SHAFICI, ABU-HANIFAH, MALIK and AHMAD know better or ALBANI? in other words Who is SALAF SHAFICI, ABU-HANIFAH, MALIK and AHMAD or ALBANI?

Exactly Sisade to follow the Kitab and Sunnah and not to differentiate the Muslim Scholars if one or some of them made mistake ALLAH would forgive them since the tried their best and if they were right ALLAH would give them double reward AS our Prophet (S.A.W) say in HADITH. This Guy and His group wants to learn us how to differentiate the Muslim Scholars acoording their critarea and not only that but to create our hearts hatred of some of the greatest ULUMA. ALLAH show us AYAH from them and it is; that they splits in a different groups who hate each other perhaps more than their hatred of other Muslims. ALXAMDULILAH

Originally posted by Salafi_Online: Innalhamdulillah... Bro Nur the word "Salaf" was used by the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) himself. He said to Faatimah, " How excellent a Salaf I am for you. " (Muslim, no. 2450). :Thus If Fatimah said oh Father i am a salafi to u, How on this planet, will the Messenger of Allah(saas) object, when it simply means that she is following him..... It's really laughable what this guy wants to convince us, they looked everywhere and couldn't find except the refrence of their name not an evidence. Salaf is an aArabic word and every Arabic person could use it including our prophet (S.A.W) but the question is does the use of the word mean that it's recomended and we can name ourselves and differentiate from the other muslims? it's really one of the sickness of this group. I will refer the brothers and sisters to read small book about this group which written by dr. Abdalla Al-shayaji he gathered about thirty charactresics of this group which some of them you can see in the articles of this guy/lady. they're really disease among us and we should disclose their tricks. i'll give you one of their more than thirty characteriatcs which is CONTRADICTION . if you sit their Majlis they always say we have no IMAM except Mohammed (S.A.W), AHLU SUNNA WAL JAMACAH have no imam except one, Mohmammed (S.A.W) etc. and if you look the articles of this guy you will find IMAMA ALBANI, it's just one of their contradictions. finally, I will ask him/her who knows better IMAMA ALBANI or IMAM SHAAFICI, ABU-HANIIFA, AHMAD and MALIK anf if he/she answers the 4 IMAMAS know better why do you refuse the simple Muslims to follow one of these IMAMS and you're proud by following IMAM ALBANI? I know he will escape because I asked him many similar questions but he escaped. please let him/her not to escape this time.

Br. Nur Agree with you, in addition to your comments, the best two muslim names were MUHAAJIROUN and ANSAAR and as we know when SAHABA (R.A) tried to differentiate between themselves our PRPOHET (S.A.W) become very angry untill his face become red and said (AFII DA'WA JAAHILYAH WA ANAA FIIKUM) which means "ARE YOU CALLING DA'WA JAAHILYAH WHIL I AM STILL WITH YOU". this group (SALAFIYAH) who are too proud to be called this name and see themselves as the only rescued sect (despite the fact that they split themselves in many sects) are they better than the MUHAAJIROUN and ANSAR?

Originally posted by SisSade: Asalaam aleykum Salafi , regarding the verse. Thank you for correcting me on the verse 30:21. True, it talks about the context of marriage. The aim of quoting that verse was to denote that it causes mercy and love between the people(All). Considering the fact that Allahs has allowed marriage of women of the beleivers of the Ahlul Kitab so there can be fosterage of such feelings towards them. Sisade yuou understood the point despite his attempt to charge us the hate of Sheikh Qaradawi as they charged him already. Ngone Sxb to deifferentiate the kufar is not defending them, i'm not defending Ahlul Kitaab, I just diffrentiated the Kufar as Allah differentiated them and protecting the brothers the misguiding of this so-called Salafiyah claims which is built on hate towards other muslims and even between themselves, they have different sects such as SALAFIYAH JADIDAH, SALAFIYAH QADIIMAH, ADI'YAU SALAFIAYAH (CLAIMERS) enz who hate and insult each other. so, he/she want us to join their HATE club and i will try to disclose their decieves as much as i can since i know them very well. I know what he would say if we accept that Ahlul Kitab are Mushrikuun, his next agenda will be that some muslims are also Mushrikuun, so he wants to open the door and I closed the door on his face. May ALLAH protet us the HATE of other Muslims. Aameen

SUBHANALLAH, does this guy knows or ALLAH? or he knows better than all Muslim Scholars who difrentiate between AHLUL KITAAB and MUSHRIKUUN. ALLAH SWT told us in many Ayas in the QURAN that the AHLU KITAAB are AHLU KITAAB and MUSHRIKUUN are Mushrikuun desbite that they both are KUFAAR. ALLAH (S.W.T) addrees Ahlul kitaab directly in many AYAS and say; YAA AHLALKITAAB LIMA TALBISUUNAL XAQA BILBAADHIL ... YAA AHLALA KITAABI LIMA TAQUULUUNA .... QUL YAA AHLUL KITAAB LAA TAQLUU FUU DIINIKUM ... and differentiate between them and other kufaars for example in one AYAH ALLAH (S.W.T) mentioned 5 different kinds of kufaar Jewish,Christian, Saab'in, Al-majuus and Mushrikuun are they SAME? they're all kufaar but different religions and different names thet's what ALLAH (S.W.T) says. To make clear AHLUL KITAAB is a part of KUFAAR but they're not MUSHRIKUUN, example of MUSHRIKUUN were KUFAARU MAKAH and example of AHLU KITAAB were kufaru MADINAH (Jewish and Christian) this is what the QURAN says and all muslim uluma are agreed upon, where this guy brought from this conclusion? ALL what he want to insult sheikh Qaradawi, that was his point and the strange is that in other thread he is claiming that he is defending SAUDI ULUMA. Insulting some ULUMA and claiming to defend others :confused: as i say b4 go your poison to other places, you're SICK :mad:

I'm asking both of you guys: How many Salafiyah groups are there?

J11, You're too diplomatic sxb. but the guy told you the error He wrote: there was just too many errors on that thread...then i realized it was written by Alqaardawii!!!! So, according their wrong madhab anyone who is not member of their Al-saud backed group is wrong even if he is great and repectful scholar like Sheikh qaradawi and many others like Salman Al-awdah, Safar Al-Hawali etc in other words anyone who opposed their rulers Al-saud. These people are really sick but most of them don't know and some of them are clevers they know the reality but they know how to monoeuvre and to escape from reality like our friend here who escaped many questions that i asked and went to AHAAD HADITH and MU'TAZILA etc.

SisSade, This guy only listen SAUDI scholars, if they say what you wrote he would accept but if it come from any other Scholar with/without proof from Quran and Sunnah as you illustrated, he will not accept. Another thread he was defending Saudi scholars who were forbidding to kill Dhimmies and now he is sayin there are many faults in your thread because it was written by Qaradhawi. So, for him qaradhawi and many other Scholars are nothing, he only knows as Uluma if someone fellow his MADHAB.

Salafi you're good manouever, manoeuvering is a main feauture of your group, why don't you answer the qusetion related to your signature: O you who believe! Take not for Auliyâ' (protectors or helpers or friends) disbelievers instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allâh a manifest proof against yourselves? (4:144) Who took the Americans Auliya (protectors or helpers or friends)? that's the base of arguement, don't manouver around the AHAAD Hadith which is very old debate and can't be solved in the Somaliaonline thread. Answer those questions and don't spoil our minds for MU@ATAZILA, JAHAMIYAH, ASHAAIRAH, QADARIYAH etc who are not the our present enemy. our present enemy is well known don't manouvere and let's face the reality. the above debate is the debate of thousand years ago when the muslims were their highest power and proseperity, today our countries were occupied and we're killing each other so, don't create new divisions and don't misguide us sxb. MU'TAZILAH, JAHAMIYAH etc were dead and new enemies were emerged so let's face them. I ask the truth seaker and others not to continue this thread since it's like ostrich hiding her head in the sand.

Salafi you're good manouever, manoeuvering is a main feauture of your group, why don't you answer the qusetion related to your signature: O you who believe! Take not for Auliyâ' (protectors or helpers or friends) disbelievers instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allâh a manifest proof against yourselves? (4:144) Who took the Americans Auliya (protectors or helpers or friends)? that's the base of arguement, don't manouver around the AHAAD Hadith which is very old debate and can't be solved in the Somaliaonline thread. Answer those questions and don't spoil our minds for MU@ATAZILA, JAHAMIYAH, ASHAAIRAH, QADARIYAH etc who are not the our present enemy. our present enemy is well known don't manouvere and let's face the reality. the above debate is the debate of thousand years ago when the muslims were their highest power and proseperity, today our countries were occupied and we're killing each other so, don't create new divisions and don't misguide us sxb. MU'TAZILAH, JAHAMIYAH etc were dead and new enemies were emerged so let's face them. I ask the truth seaker and others not to continue this thread since it's like ostrich hiding her head in the sand.

Salafi you escaped to answer my questions, because they're the base of arguments. O.K I will answer for you, just tell me and other pannel if you agree or disagree with me. 1. It is shame, wrong and perhaps HARAM for someone who seek the kufars to protect their land (as saudis and all gulf countries do) to say i'm following the path of our SALAF since you couldn't find the whole Islamic history that the kufars were protecting muslim lands. 2. Yes our prophet SAW said expell the Mushrikoon from Arabian Penisula, however it's debateable for civilian contracters and majority of ULUMA allowed it, but to allow american soldiers to have military basis in the two holy mosque land is forbidden. 3. There is no difference between the Saudi Ulumas and the rest of the world Ulumas except their taqwa and their Jihad, so to defend all muslim Uluma yes but to defend one country's uluma and to insult others as many so-called Salafis do is HARAM. I can enlighten more but i want to see your reactions first.

I want to ask the Salafi-on-line 3 questions: 1. did our SALAF (R.A) souught protection for their children from non muslims like Romans or Persians at their time or instead they were threatning and invading them? 2. is it true that our prophet (S.A.W) ordered to expell kufars from Arabian Penisula? 2. what is the difference between the Ulumas in Saudia and the rest of the muslim world Uluma say AL-Azhar Uluma for example? I look forward your response.

NGONGE, Thanks Sxb, i just noticed that some Somalis havebecome blind of what saudi regime is doing, this action is not only against Islam, but also against all internationl laws, and it's very sad that evil become for us something normal. Darman Sxb, if u hate them or love them these people were muslim and they thought themselves that the're right Are they right or wrong it's another question, but my question was is this permissable in ISLAM, and simply it's forbidden in islam to mutilitate the bodies weather they're muslim or non muslim.