I personally know many people from Rwanda & Burundi. Most of them look like a typical Somali. When I see most of them for the first time, the first question I ask them is whether they are from Somalia, only to find out that they are from Rwanda. Some of them have told me that their ancestors are from Somalia and Ethiopia.

Well the outcome wasn't in question really but the fight for Baghdad should be really bloody for the Western Coalition. In any case, Saddam has screwed up the Western nations. He has divided the Alliances that were formed after WW II. He has proved that the UN is useless.

Sure the war is about weapons but this war isn't only about one thing,it's about many things. 1. To protect Israel (No one should be a challenge to Israel in the mid-east, not Iraq nor Iran or Syria) 2. For oil (Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the worl, after KSA) 3. to test weapons

Coalition against Iraq includes: Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Britain, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey and Uzbekistan. Muslim majority countries from the above list are: Albania, Azerbaijan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Turkey, Uzbekistan. Not necesserially militarially but also with other minor helpful ways. but missing from the list the US provided the media are the major players, without whom the war would be impossible. They are: Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Jordan, Egypt, Oman.

Sweet_gal, it is better not to mention these sites at all. G_Money, I know the sister isn't trying to promote them but don't you think I should tell her if she is indirectly? Read the following: http://english.islamway.com/bindex.php?section=article&id=90

Subxan'allah, touching story. Thanks for sharing it.

Originally posted by Princess_Sexy: "One man's terrorist is another man's freedon fighter" How true that is.

War will be soon, I think within this week. The UN staff have left Iraq as well as many Kurds in the North have fled. They must know something that we don't know! Now the question is how long will the war take, before the Iraqi gov falls?

Rebuilding Iraq my ***. What hapenned to rebuilding Afghanistan? I don't think that is done yet. These people they destroy, kill, and then say, 'hey, we're gonna rebuild it okay!' Well no rebuilding would be needed if you didn't destroy it in the first place. Also anybody hear that they want Iraq to pay for the war. Some American gov officials are suggesting that Iraq after Saddam has been kicked out should be sent a big fat bill to pay for the war. 'Let me attack your country, kill your people, then you pay for the bullets.' Ridicilous. Isn't it?

Why only Bag-daaaaaad? Iraq is not only bag-daaad. Saddam's days are numbered, if the Americans attack Iraq. I can't say that I feel sorry for him, since he is a damn dictator who is holding his people hostage. Don't get me wrong though I don't agree with Bush or Blair but Iraq deserves better ... much much better. The only way he can win the war, like the Libaax said, is if he's army can put up a long fight but we all know that isn't gonna happen. His army probably hates him more than Bush does.

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Do not send this message to all your contacts and do not click on the link either! By doing so, you are promoting these anti-Islamic websites. PCW nothing personal.

I just wanna tell everybody who wants warn people about these sites NOT TO POST their URLs (webstite address). I know no Muslims means to promote these websites but by posting their URLs, you are promoting these anti-Islamic websites.

http://www.islamonline.net/english/news/2003-01/08/article08.shtml Gold Dinar

Xamar cadeey all the way.

Ladiif Sharia cannot be introduces step by step. It has to be introduced at once.

ik ben verliefde? Who are u in love with?

OK with all the evidence above, ya'all are under arrest. Anything you said can and will be used against U. You don't have the right to remain silent nor the right to an attorney. Yours sincerely, John Ashcroft, Attorney General, US Federal Government

Well I doubt that they will change. Once corrupted always corrupted but we can all hope for the best.

True Shujui-1, I don't agree with them either on many points but the is the background information accurate? I mean when they are talking about the new party that won the elections. Is it true that they are made up of ex KANU members?

I don't know much about Kenya but I found the following to be interresting. from khilafah.com BACKGROUND On December 27, 2002 Kenya saw its eighth general elections since pseudo-independence from British colonial rule in 1963. During all these years, Kenya has been ruled by the Kenya African National Union (KANU) under the iron hand of the first president, Jomo Kenyatta, who took power in 1963 until he died in 1978, followed by the second president, Daniel Arap Moi, who has ruled for 24 years until he was forced to retire at the end of this year. Multi-party politics were allowed for a brief spell following independence but all other parties were crushed by the late 1960s following which KANU was practically the only political party until Kenyatta died. Moi took over and continued crushing all opposition voices, and in 1982 the constitution was changed to make Kenya a de jure one-party state with all alternative political parties outlawed by law. Moi ruled with an iron fist using all state machinery at his disposal, a rule which was tacitly supported by Kenya's western patrons who feared any radical change which could threaten their continuing colonial interests in this key country. However, following the declaration of the 'New World Order' in 1990 by George Bush senior following the collapse of the communist ideological threat to the West's capitalist ideology, the US has worked hard to impose its singular rule throughout the third world by using the call to multi-party democracy in order to bring into power new leaders submissive to its domination rather than the old European colonial powers. In Kenya, this translated into the US pushing for 'change' in the early 1990s, under the brash voice of the then US ambassador, Smith Hempstone, who openly advocated for pluralist democracy and economic liberalism while openly interfering in Kenya's internal affairs contrary to diplomatic etiquette. Western pressure forced Moi to amend the constitution in 1990 to permit multi-party democracy following which KANU faced a strong challenge to its rule. Hempstone was behind the formation of several opposition parties, all of which were led by former KANU stalwarts who miraculously saw the light and became true democrats overnight, with the US publicly supporting the opposition in the first multi-party elections in 1992. However Moi and KANU were able to retain power even though they only won a minority of votes due to their use of state resources, vote rigging, state-engineered ethnic clashes to disenfranchise opposition strongholds, and last but not least, opposition disunity. Since the existing opposition leaders each sought power for himself and encouraged tribalism to support his bid for power this only splintered the opposition vote (see Hempstone's book, 'Rogue Ambassador' for more details). The same recipe for KANU success was used again in the second multi-party elections in 1997 while the opposition made the same errors. CURRENT SITUATION However, things have apparently turned out differently in the third multi-party elections of December 27, 2002 in which Moi was forced to retire according to the constitutional provision permitting any president a maximum of two terms. Moi forced KANU to choose a political novice, Uhuru Kenyatta, as its presidential candidate based upon his being the son of the first president, Jomo Kenyatta, and the hope that the Kikuyu - the most numerous tribe - would overwhelmingly back him. This choice led to a major crisis in KANU with many senior old KANU officials opposing the choice for fear it deprived them of their chance for power. A major rebellion broke out in KANU, led by Raila Odinga - a former opposition firebrand turned KANU hack, and cabinet minister turned KANU rebel, turned opposition firebrand - who formed a lobby group within KANU, the 'Rainbow Coalition', which merged some of his major rivals within KANU - such as the former vice president Professor George Saitoti, KANU party vice president Kalonzo Musyoka, former KANU secretary general and diehard Moi supporter Joseph Kamotho - into a coalition to oppose the Uhuru nomination in a bid to gain the nomination for one of the major players of the coalition. Meanwhile, the opposition seemed to have learnt the lessons of 1992 and 1997 such that the major parties merged into one major opposition block, the National Alliance Party of Kenya (NAPK), under the stewardship of Mwai Kibaki who became the presidential candidate with the other major players being promised senior positions in a future opposition led government i.e. Kijana Wamalwa as vice-president and Charity Ngilu as a future prime minister (a post supposed to be created in a new constitution). Machiavellian politics continued of the most astonishing type during early and mid 2002, finally culminating into the 'Rainbow Coalition' quitting KANU to join the opposition NAPK in a new 'super alliance' known as the 'National Alliance Rainbow Coalition' (NARC). NARC was formed in late 2002 being top heavy with former KANU bigwigs turned against Uhuru Kenyatta, and the question of which leader would get which post was too difficult to be dealt with so it was postponed with only Mwai Kibaki being formally endorsed as NARC's presidential candidate. NARC was a coalition of disparate individuals and parties with various agendas, the only thing gluing them together being the attempt to pull the rug from Uhuru in order to gain power themselves, following which they would divide it up between themselves. KANU meanwhile, minus the Rainbow rebels who had resigned and defected to the opposition, endorsed Uhuru as its candidate. Thus by election day, the main campaign was between KANU's Uhuru Kenyatta - a young man and political novice whose main slogan was a 'new start' under a new generation of leaders who would change the way Kenya worked - and NARC's Mwai Kibaki - an older man (71yrs) with much political experience who also promised change from the KANU ancien regime. There were also an assortment of less important political players and parties vying for power in the shadow of the great fight between KANU and NARC. The outcome was an astonishing win for the National Alliance Rainbow Coalition (NARC) whose presidential candidate, Mwai Kibaki, won more than 65% of the total vote (provisional results with official final figures still to be announced) while Uhuru Kenyatta won about 29%. NARC also swept the parliamentary elections with about 135 seats of the total 210 seats in the National Assembly (Kenya's parliament) with KANU only gaining around 60 (provisional results). This is the first time since Kenya's independence that KANU has lost either the presidential or parliamentary elections. Most Kenyans are euphoric over NARC's win, naively believing that overnight Kenya's deep-rooted and endemic problems i.e. corruption, international debt, public service debt, AIDs pandemic, collapsing infrastructure, failed public education and health services, tribalism etc will be solved by the new change reflected in NARC. The reality which few recognise in the current intoxicating euphoria is that NARC and Mwai Kibaki will not solve the existing problems because:- 1. All senior NARC officials were part of the KANU old guard which ran Kenya down into the deep hole within which it sinks today. For example Mwai Kibaki, the new president, served as a vice-president for nine years in Moi's single party KANU rule from 1978 until 1987 and enriched himself until he suddenly became an ardent oppositionist in 1992! The same applies to all other senior NARC leaders. The reality is that the NARC officials have committed the same heinous crimes against the masses which they used as an excuse to push people to vote for them instead of KANU, some of them (particularly the 'Rainbow Coalition') continuing to do so until just a few months ago, yet today they claim to be cleaner than Prophets! Thus, it is not surprising that NARC has promised Moi not to pursue him in his retirement for his multiple economic and political crimes including the ethnic clashes of 1992 and 1997 which killed hundreds of innocent civilians. This is because many of those taking power participated in the same crimes and bloodied their hands and accordingly do not want them investigated, exposed or punished! 2. All senior NARC officials are billionaires or, at the very least multi-millionaires, despite having served virtually all their lives in the public service. These riches inevitably came from looting the public purse again and again, yet today they promise to protect the public purse. Corruption is the order of the day among all leading politicians of all parties, so the idea that these wolves will suddenly turn into wonderful shepherds overnight is nothing but naive and dangerous fancy. 3. NARC has committed itself to submitting to the dictates of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank: NARC has publicly and repeatedly committed itself to submitting to all IMF and World Bank conditionalities in order to resume the 'aid' and loans Kenya has been denied for several years. While the masses seem not to know better, the reality is that these conditionalities are intended to bankrupt the country and make it dependent upon foreign countries and institutions perpetually, thereby maintaining the same neo-colonialism which the masses naively are deluded to believe they are independent of. These conditions include economic liberalisation, privatisation, reducing public services and the government backing away from guaranteeing free education and health. Yet at the same time that NARC promised to submit to these inhuman conditions (which would impoverish the masses while selling the country out to foreign multinationals and fattening the pockets of a local elite) NARC's campaign promises to the masses, which led to their overwhelming victory, included guaranteeing free education and health, and poverty eradication programs! In other words, promise the masses anything to ensure victory while knowing full well that such promises will never be accomplished, following the Machiavellian principles of: "The ends justify the means" and "Might is right"! 4. NARC is committed to ensuring the West's continued colonialism in Kenya: NARC officials repeatedly visited western capitals together with meeting western representatives locally to confirm that Kenya will maintain its present 'pro-western' course, including supporting the US-led war against Islam under the guise of a war against terror. Kenya is a strategic country, the gateway to Eastern and Central Africa, and has always submitted to Western dictates in all important decisions. Right now, Kenya is an important staging post for western military operations--the US has important military bases in northern Kenya while patrolling in the Indian Ocean off the shores of Kenya, the German military is using Mombasa as a base of operations to monitor Somalia while the British have a 3,000 strong military force based in Nanyuki. Major western multinationals e.g. Barclays Bank, Unilever, Standard Chartered Bank, Citibank, GM, BAT etc control Kenya's economy. Kenya's vote in important multinational institutions e.g. the UN, World Bank, IMF, Unicef, and UNEP (whose headquarters are in Nairobi) ALWAYS follows western wishes. Kenya has diplomatic relations with the Jewish entity, even when it officially denied it in the past, similar to the way it maintained relations with South Africa according to western dictates even when the latter was under apartheid rule in contradiction to Kenya's official commitment under the old Organisation of African Unity (OAU) - now renamed the African Unity Organisation - to ostracise the old apartheid regime. The US embassy in Nairobi, currently being rebuilt, will be the biggest in sub-saharan Africa while Nairobi and Mombasa have become the regional intelligence centres for the major western intelligence agencies such as the CIA and MI6. Kenya remains a colony in all but name, and NARC made sure they committed themselves to being slaves in order to gain power. NARC could never have won elections until they were 'vetted' by proving they would remain loyal, which is why all western countries have immediately approved the election results and promised 'to work closely with the new government' to ensure a better future i.e. to ensure Kenya remains within the West's control. CONCLUSION The recently concluded elections change nothing of essence. While the parties and individuals in power have changed, the reality remains that all senior politicians in Kenya are secular Machiavellian's who practise deceit and trickery to gain power, cheating the masses that they care for them whereas they only care for their stomachs. NARC will continue the previous regime's policy of taking care of themselves at the masses expense. Moreover, all senior politicians - whether NARC, KANU or other - know that Kenya remains a colony of the West and are committed to maintaining their submission to the West's dictates at the expense of the impoverished masses. The Kenyan political medium has committed itself, almost to the last man, to practising the corrupt ideology of the 'New World Order' i.e. multi-party democracy with economic liberalisation, knowing full well that this is a neo-colonial ideology promoted by the West for its own selfish interests. These interests ensure that the African continent - rich in natural and human resources and potential - remains colonised with all its riches being transferred into western hands via multinationals working hand in hand with the local elite. All the while, the masses remain impoverished and enslaved into the future. 'KANU has lost, long live colonialism and slavery under NARC' is the true reality of the 'change' that has taken place in Kenya. No radical change will ever take place until the masses are liberated by Islam to overthrow the existing capitalist world disorder in order to establish a just Islamic world order; everything else is a mirage even if it appears beautiful from afar! Abdallah Ahmed 30th December, 2002

Yes, Somalia was meant to be a united nation!!! It’s just that the wrong people have taken the leadership seats. There is no hatred between the average Somalis but it’s these leaders/warlords/beggars etc. who brainwash many people with useless tribalism. The average Somali believes in the Unity of Somalis in every corner of the Somali region and that’s something that these so-called leaders cannot destroy. Trust me all these leaders who want to be ‘someone’ on top will not have their way for long. It will not be long before the people wake up and realize that they’ve been misled by them. Also, even though I agree with Nafisa when she said that ‘Somalia today is more vulnerable.” I still think the concept of a mini-state is more dangerous than the failed state that exists now. At least now all the maps on the planet show a country called Somalia, and its flag. I really don’t think anyone should ever run to divisions, in any case. Guevara said: “These ministates don't have to be independent forever as I believe in more peaceful and prosperous times, eventual reunifacation process can start.” How many states have you seen that have disintegrated and in prosperous times where united again? Trust me ones a country disintegrates it will never be united again, not in prosperous nor in peaceful. It just never happens. It’s didn’t happen in Yugoslavia, Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Ethiopia-Eritrea, Pakistan-East Pakistan (Bangladesh), Korea, Columbia, and Indonesia! Etc. Germany’s case was a different case. Hell we couldn’t even get Jabouti when it became independent, eventhough Somali was prosperous and peaceful then. Now imagine giving all the Caydiids, Caatos, Yuffus, and Hassans, each their own state. Now they will be considered legitimate leaders who are heads of states. They will receive foreign aid. They will tax people and businesses. If they have to they will even sell land to foreign companies who will dump all their toxic waste there to get some of that extra dollar$. In turn all the money will not be used to make the life of the average citizen better but to buy ammunitions and weapons. It will get to the point where each one of them will have fighter planes and missiles. Then you will see mini-state A fighting mini-state B, over some territory. Of course with heavier weapons than what they pocess now! And the average person will be caught in the middle of this. You already see something similar to what I said above happening in Somaliland-Puntland. I think we all also have an idea of how weak Somalia would be when divided in mini-states. It will be like Arabia today. We will have to have foreign protection, which is how some of the somali teritorries were given away to Ethiopia and Kenya long ago. Another point worth mentioning is that these mini-states will also have to compete to survive and will in turn be exploited. Most likely since they will be in the same region they will have the same types of products to sell and the same types of services to offer. Something similar to that is also happening between Jabuti-Somaliland over the ports because they’re both competing for one customer, Ethiopia. Imagine mini-state A selling live stock to Saudi Arabia. What would you do if you were mini-state B and wanted some of that market? Put the prices on your livestock down. Then A will do the same, and so will C. Thus, you will be forced to lower your prices even more. See the danger mini-states pose economically?

I didn't see my name there (i'm thinking like a warlord), so I chose none. Honestly, though none of these punks are qualified to lead a nation. Well qualified maybe but their really selfish people... They are not there to improve the lives of the 15 or so million somalis, they are there to be dictators.

Ma'shallah, I saw the show last Sunday. It was awesome, the prophets seera told as it was with no prejudice, no misleading additions, no racist comments. This is not the first time PBS has broadcasted the truth about Islam eventhough there are many pressures surrounding them. We should all support this channel and encourage it to keep broadcasting the truth, even when all other channels are blinded by prejudice and hate.