Originally posted by RedSea: Somalis and their total disregard to their fellow country men yet mourn the death of other people from else where. Guys should we also help haiti rebuild their country? how about The U.S gulf coast Oil spill should we look for solution to stop it? C'mon peeps there are enough trouble to go around the world. Yours should be your main concern. The world has dished out its dirt onto Somalia... literally! dumping their toxic waste onto your shores, Caused all this mayhem, watched it happen life. Sent its troops to conquer, killed, maim, rape what is left of the skinny race. and when a group of Somali respond with big boom, the skinnies all of sudden forget whose team they are on. AWW! how cute guys, you want some cookies now from uncle sam. ahaha As usual you will only engage in ad-hominem attacks and never reply to any relevant charges on your blatant hypocrisy. You cheerlead Western style democracy and secessionism on one end, while waving the black flag to the rest of Somalia's self destruction on the other. Your thin veneer of patriotism, and supposed care for Somali livelihood is easily penetrated when you take into account how you could care less about how this attack has undoubtedly produced nothing but negative for Somali's everywhere, and East Africa specifically. It seems in the deluded lives of AS supporters the only signs of progress are the body count scoresheets. As long as they keep the score close on that count it must be a positive right? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Che -Guevara: Uganda was warned repeatedly to leave Somalia and stop their discriminate bombardment of suuq Bakaaraha, suuq bacaad, and other neighborhoods.They were told what repercussions will be should they continue being mercenaries in Xamar. Nin kuu digey kuma dilin! On the larger geopolitical arena, this was bad move on the part of Al-Shabaab. Ridiculously flawed moral equivalency that takes for granted that Ugandans at large are responsible for the actions of Museveni. A guy who's been accused of a myriad of election abuses and opposition repression. Taking this into account, are you saying that innocent Ugandans and foreigners in Uganda should be held responsible for the actions of 6000 troops that they have zero political sway over. You blind cheerleaders who are attempting to justify this attack with verbal gymnastics seem to fail to realize that not only is this a terrible act from a moral and Islamic perspective,but politically it will negatively affect Somali's the most, and not the intended target. This attack will actually STRENGTHEN Museveni's support,will likely lead to an increase of AMISOM troops, and is sure to lead to repercussions for the Somali diaspora in Uganda. Yet somehow this is "expected"? Incredible.

What an embarassment of a manager Le Guen, there is no dancing around the subject here. He benched Kameni for an old has been in Souleymanou who is just as apt at making mental breakdowns except he has zero potential for a game changing save. He sat Song and their only creative midfielder in Emana in exchange for a defensive midfielders in Enoh and Makoun and Joel Matip an 18 year old call up who recently switched up national teams from Germany’s u-20. He has played in zero relevant games in Cameroon yet astoundingly Le Guen saw it fit that he start in their most pivotal group match. He continues to be deadset on playing Eto’o on the right flank despite the fact their options at striker were hapless. On top of all these dreadful mistakes he plays Mbia out of position at neither the midfield or centerback postions where he is used to but inexplicably at a rightback position he is unfamiliar with. This was the 10th player he tried at the position in their warmup matches so its no coincidence that have zero continuity at the position. This despite the fact they have an experienced right back in Geremi who although, might have a lapse, can still provide the consistent delivery that his late inclusion proved. Yes Cameroon struggled but a huge portion of the blame must go to the manager, comical decisions but not surprising considering this man has already failed at PSG and Rangers.

King has been in better form than Rio all season I thought this was common knowledge, and Terry has been the least impressive of the bunch

Norf sounds like your run of the mill bitter Brit Your going to see a lot of this

Originally posted by Kashafa: B, Have you commented, even once, on the tens of thousands of human beings that lost their lives, and continue to lose their lives, courtesy of Her Royal Majesty's(along with UN, EU) financial support for Ethiopia, Amisom, and the Tigray Founded Gang ? Or is that too jarring a fact that may shatter the mental construct you have of yourself as a civilised newly-ilbax former qaxooti who cares about the suffering of others( mainly, whomever Western media deems fit to 'mourn' as the latest flavor of the month: Darfur) Kan oo kale aa biri intaa mardoof jaat ah la soo seeyo ku dahaayo: "Soomali baan ahay, wadan'ka arimiheesa wax hala iga seeyo waayo muwaatin baan ahay, fikradaydu xor baan uu ahay, power-sharing hala sameeyo oo waxaan rabaa shan wasaarad, gaar ahaan wasaarada bariiska, wasaarada baastada, iyo wasaarada jaatka & daruugada, hadee kale wadan'ka dhan aa holcinaa intaa moooriyaaan ilmo-adeer nahay soo kiraysado, oo Ethiopia funding ka soo qaato" And the funny thing ? Some maangaab folk will actually agree with him and say: "He's a Somali citizen. His voice must be represented, he deserves his share of the national pie. The Dowlada Midnimo Qaran has to represent all Somali constituencies, including the Graveworshipping Mushrik constituency, the Gaalo-raac Traitors-R-Us constituency, the Warlord constituency, and the "HRM Queen Elizabeth blessed us with Independence" constituency. This is what they taught me in Civics 101 at Hogwarts University, and thanks to that education, I am a highly advanced and civilised indivudual" So are you suggesting the number of deaths of Muslims in Darfur are fabricated? You do realize everyone in that conflict is Muslim right? Or did you just overlook that fact because it does not fit into your world war paradigm?

Dinho isn't washed up but simply doesn't fit into the Brazilian tactics as presently composed, its as simple as that. lol @ Kaka being painfully average, the British inferiority complex always makes for exaggerated statements. You'd favour Stevie G in his position I'm assuming?

Sad to say but they've given her greater platform by disallowing the speech as opposed to letting her speak and make a fool of herself as usual. Had the speech gone as scheduled its quite less likely that she would've gotten the publicity she's aiming for and craves. Instead she's on the front page headlines of every Canadian paper nationwide ( and a few south of the border). Rest assured the next stop on her speaking tour will gain more audience members as a result of this development, they've inadvertently helped her out.

Originally posted by Khayr: quote: Marka maxa iga galay politicised Azhar ama manipulated Islam? . . . . . The child is my responsibility, Islam is NOT Islam is not your interest or on your shortlist. Got it! Thanks for the update! The intellectual dishonesty that you've displayed through your question is quite clear given this response. You asked him a question he answered it legitimately and instead of addressing him on the specific points you engaged in ad-hominem attacks,i.e. claiming that those who don't agree with your position are ideologically aligned with the liberal world( whatever that means). The issue at hand, along with countless others debated on this forum do not have a singlecorrect interpretation or viewpoint yet your so rigidly devoted to your own opinion that you've gone far enough to dismiss those who don't agree with you, whilst questioning their identities and affiliations. It's really not a wonder why people are turned off by this type of approach , but I digress.

This would be more amusing if it wasn't for the painfully lamentable fact there are impressionable youth ( and their elders) who buy into this empty rhetoric. This death cult has been fighting a hopeless stalemate against one of the weakest government troops in the entire world, yet is somehow making baseless threats to the United States.....Truly incredible.

Karl your mental gymnastics in this thread are astounding. For your aforementioned commitment to scholarly evidences and by the book interpretration surely I'm not the only seeing the irony in your rhetoric filled posts. It's a shame you have to resort to ad-hominen attacks slandering a dead man as "evil" in order to make your points. Yet you've yet to directly address the fact his ban was subjected specifically towards an ALL GIRLS school and not towards all facets of society. Fact is it was your ilk that seized on this story like hyenas and blew it entirely out of proportion for your own ideological gains,and not vice versa.

Sorry to admit it but the majority of the reasons given in this article are a crock. The majority of these kids were killed by fellow Somalis anyone who is familiar with any of the cases would attest to the fact. The reason the majority haven't been solved has less to do with lack of police investigation and way more to do with the fact that Somali's simply refuse to give their own....a bit reminiscent of how thing's go on back home.

Originally posted by Abtigiis & Tusbax: Egypt were completely kept in their 18 box for most of the match against Cameroun. They looked very worried and were basically defending like an East African team -throwing the ball to all sides. I was surprised to see that. But as you said, that could be a one-off problem. And I am sure they will up their game when they play Algeria. But Algeria has really impressed me. Although they tend to keep the ball moving for too long in their half, when they go forward, they do all things a great team should do. Plus, if you can watch Mourad Maghni (one touted as the new Zidane). He plays exactly like him, I mean all the moves, the xarago are like Zidane. They are still missing Sabri Lamouchia, and when they are in full strength, the overrated Albions are in for a game in WC 2010. I think England will have second thoughts about declaring E-A-S-Y (England, Algeria, Slovenia, Yankees) when they watch how Algeria dismantled Ivory Coast! I also watched how disciplined and tough Slovenia were against Russia and from what I see they must beat England. Sabri Lamouchia???? You do realize Lamouchi is a) not Algerian b) 38 years old playing C level football in Qatar. You certainly have got him confused and I'm not exactly sure with who. This Algerian team is at full strength and likely will future the same lineup in the WC. I do agree with your analysis of them, however they are a very impressive team that is playing at it's highest form the perfect time.

Originally posted by Abtigiis & Tusbax: I am worried about Tuujiye's football knowledge. Zambia has been one of the power houses of African football and at one point beat Italy 4-0 in a Friendly when Kalusha Bwalya was young. They are not upcoming. They have always been there. But if you mean on account of their game against Nigeria, I think you are still wrong. Nigeria is not a good team these days. So, I was shocked Zambia actually didn't beat them 3-0. Historically Zambia has been Nations Cup heavyweight but they've had a long decline since the heydays of the 90s. It's only been since they hired Frenchman Herv Michel that they have experienced a resurgence. I think they definetly should have won that match, this is one of the worst Nigerian squad's I have ever seen. I know most Nigerian's are frustrated that Amodu is likely to keep his job with the semifinal appearance despite how lacklustre their performance has been.

Originally posted by Raamsade: So, when will Drogba and Kalou return to Chelsea? Anyone know? Are players required to stay with their national teams even if they're knocked out of the tournament? No players usually return to their respective clubs shortly after elimination. I wouldn't be surprised to see Drogba playing in Chelsea's next fixture.

Give the Algerians credit, people kept questioning their attacking potential and they answered that with a bang today. They completley dominated possession and certainly deserved the match. Yalla Masr !!! Words cant describe how priceless another Algerian win would be, I think the Egyptian nation would be on mass suicide watch if that would occur.

A lot of you guys jumped the gun early apparently African teams aren't allowed to start tournaments slow like their European counterparts. All the World Cup teams rebounded well and are through, although one can make the case in Algeria's case it was undeserved. The quarterfinals have a series of very interesting matchups....CIV-Algeria, Egypt-Cameroon, Zambia-Nigeria, and finally Angola-Ghana. IMO I see the Zambians upsetting the Nigerians, and I'm rooting for yet another Algeria Egypt matchup in the semifinals just because of the fireworks and entertaining build-up it would produce.

Norfsky is a typical Brit, seemingly always better when the topic of international football is broached . The playoffs should be entertaining the match that I'm looking forward to the most has to be Algeria- Egypt. I'm hoping the Algerians hold on and get through to the WC.......For you Arabic speakers here's a video of Amr Adib causing yet another controversy this time regarding his opinion of the Algerians: Qahera Al Youm

Originally posted by ThePoint: ^It would be nice if Africans started acting like grownups - but they don't which is what leads to the neo-colonialism. quote: One of the appeals of Angola's job market is high salaries. For many of Mr. da Costa's clients in Angola, a starting salary for an entry-level position in banking or civil engineering is between $2,000 and $5,000 a month. By comparison, a high starting rate in Portugal for a similar job is €1,000 a month. Mr. Da Rocha was one of several dozen men from the small town who went off to Angola when local rock-quarry jobs began to dry up. Ms. Silva said her husband tried working in Switzerland, but "he didn't earn enough and he missed us." Now, Mr. Da Rocha earns €2,000 a month working in a mine in Tulunga. There, he lives in a camp with other Portuguese and Angolan workers. He plans to return home in late September. Sad - they're giving them high salaries in a country where the cost of living is dirt cheap and the governments are unable to train people to quarry rocks let alone anything more advanced. Aficans are the root of their own problems. In case I've failed to note the sarcasm here, that might be one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read on this website. The roots of neo-colonialism stretch back to African's level of maturity??? Really? Even Rudyard Kipling would disagree with your assessment. Stop making blanket generalizations with zero basis. So rampant exploitation of African natural resources to this day, structural adjustments programs which curb the development of African industry, and the continued support of African dictators continent wide in exchange for stable financial practices are all to be discounted, and instead we should focus on the level of African intellect and maturity? Incredible.

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ Xaaji, I am not for a minute denying the clan aspect here. But it does not take an entire clan to file a case, it takes ONE man. In America, the law allows any fool to go and file a case with no come back or trouble (save a few complaints on the net). The bit about SL you talk about there is rubbish and you know why it is rubbish. Why are you arguing on this issue? If the late Dictator was alive and in America right now, are you saying people will not attempt to file a law case against him because he is from a supposedly 'better' clan than the man we are talking about here? For a man who claims a monopoly on straight forward logic, it surely has seemed to fail you here. Your analogy is baseless, are you really trying to compare Samatar to Siad Barre? Irregardless of the fact that anyone can file a lawsuit in the States it is especially disingenuous to suggest that could be the reasoning behind this. It is surely not a coincidence that this man is the first Somali political figure in the diaspora to face such a lawsuit is it?

Ah typical Somali justice....Only reserved to those who represent the least numerical parts of society. They've simply used the American justice system as a new medium to express this well established form of clan politics.

Luis Fabiano's goal scoring record with Brazil is incredible it must be stated. 25 goals in 33 matches,with such a start he'll be rivaling the greats by the time he's done.

Originally posted by Nin-Yaaban: Speaking English does not mean in aad 'isku dhaqan' tihiin. Dadka af ajnabiga barta, ma waxey u bartaan dhaqanka AMA iney wax kaga fa'ideystaan ayagoo weli dhaqankooda heesta. Again, nothing to take away from Oromos or the others that u said 'were' closer to us than Arabs, we just share skin color and thats where it ends. Vast majority of Oromos are Muslim as well however, so it goes further than a common skin colour. Similarites in culture, and history also exist, due to the proximity of Oromos to Somalis. The obvious reason any Somalis ( not living in the Arab world) do try to put effort into learning a bit of Arabic is to gain a better understanding of the deen.

Originally posted by Daaradonle: the Egyptians,the african brazil should quilify with out egypt the other african contenders will be little bit boring . Egypt plays the most beautiful football in africa. I think if Eqypt qualifies it can go as far as semi_finals :rolleyes: You don't watch enough African football if you think a) the Egyptians play the only brand of entertaining football and b) that the rest of the teams are boring. Unless the Egyptians remedy their road qualifying problems I do not see why they should deserve to go through. The spot must be earned, not appointed and they have yet to do so. Also there's a big difference between the WC itself and the puffcake Confed. Cup, in which they failed to advance anyway.

I agree with your breakdown Abraar, barring a miracle the Algerians will go through and deservedly so. They've got a very talented young squad( despite their lack of familiarity with each other) and perhaps the best home crowd in Africa. Regardless though, the final match in Cairo should make for very entertaining football, although I'm also of the opinion that the Zambians should be the favorites for the match in Lusaka. Both countries have a history of eliminating each other in WC qualifiers whether it was the Algerians providing the blow in 2001 or the infamous Algerian defeat in 1990 that coincided with a riot!